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Igeteven
08-16-2011, 12:10 PM
Minimum bets do add up real fast in the cash register

Why does NY, Kentucky and Fl have Fraction betting, I tell you why, they add up real fast, do you think for one minute C.D. does this out of the goodness of their heart, hell no, they know , people will be play more on fractional betting, and it shows.

California is used to taking your money and kicking the hell out of you, at least one has a real good chance to win in NY, Ky or Fl because of this.

Why on earth does the casino have penny slots, for their sake, no, they know customers will play so long until they up the bet.

Remember in The movie Casino, Keep them there and play and play, overall if one doesn't' walk out after a score, one will lose.

Remember, greater pay , longer play, however the house will take your money in the long run, one can beat a race, but beating the races, no way.

macguy
08-16-2011, 01:31 PM
It's quite interesting to see people that play the penny slots.

To play one line often costs one cent, but these people playing the penny slots often play 15 or maybe 25 lines a spin.

Quite ingenious, that's the way the casino's turn the penny slot players into dollar slots players without them even realizing.

Igeteven
08-16-2011, 02:22 PM
It's quite interesting to see people that play the penny slots.

To play one line often costs one cent, but these people playing the penny slots often play 15 or maybe 25 lines a spin.

Quite ingenious, that's the way the casino's turn the penny slot players into dollar slots players without them even realizing.

Your darn right

Robert Fischer
08-16-2011, 03:42 PM
Igeteven - check this archived thread about fractionals and how they affect payouts.
some good debate
we break down a Steve Crist Saver (page 5 or 6 i think...)

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40814&page=1&pp=15


A Few of the Gems (from the good guys)

a 30-1 shot on top is going to pay nice in a super. No matter what.

It's the times when the top 4 or 5 Public choices make up the trifecta, and the 8th choice runs 4th that the dime players take the old dollar pools and split them up 3 ways.


I know that I don't hit all of the alls that I used to hit before the dime super came along. Since I concentrate on small tracks, where the competition is easier, i used to hit supers where the alls paid great and usually had them 3 or 4 times. It was a big part of my huge success. people couldn't afford to take 20-1 shots on top for dollars. Now thay can box 6 for a dime and hit them outright. a ton of supers at suffolk have paid thousands for a 10 cent ticket that was the only live ticket. The dime super is forcing me out of the pools.


It is what it is.

If you play the game you should know the dynamics of the different available wagers, and understand what changing something like "minimum bet" does to these dynamics.

Personally I love the .10 on the synthetic-turf tracks and on the mid level tracks.
I prefer not to see the .10 at racing's better tracks.
I am strongly opposed to the .10 super on racing's biggest days.

:ThmbUp:

cosmo96
08-16-2011, 04:26 PM
I play to win only if the odds are right. Otherwise, I play exactas, and one trifecta a day. Most of the time I use good judgement and good money management, overall I beat the races.

therussmeister
08-16-2011, 06:00 PM
How much does it cost the track to take a bet? If you're boxing four horses for a dime, the tracks cut of the takeout might not even pay for the paper it is printed on.

JohnGalt1
08-17-2011, 05:41 PM
My personal experience with ten and fifty cent unit bets which I seldom play.

I logged my Canterbury bets for the past 3 years after my MVP point balance dropped and I couldn't figure out why.

2008 Trips 19//Total wagers $9817// Daily average $516.70//Results -364.80

2009 Trips 15//Total wagers $8642//Daily avg $576.15//Results +982.00

2010 Trips 14//Total wagers $4235//Daily avg $302.50//Results +2092.00

I bet almost half per day in 2010, even though I won, because I hate ten cent units for many of the reasons mentioned above, i.e putting 6 horses on top, etc.

I don't bet less than 3-1 to win (unless stuck on a late odds crash at the last flash.) So some of th decrease could be that I liked more chalk than other years and so passed in all pools.

I may play the odd $.50 super, but I very seldom play $.50 trifectas, and when I play a $.50 pick four I usually play two tickets, one with any horse that can win and another with my prime bets.

*** My point, or question, has pools for supers gone up, down or stayed about even at tracks that went from $1.00 units to .10 units in supers?

Maybe I should be glad since I now bet mostly to win, exactas, and pick 4's at most of the tracks I play.