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Casino
07-28-2011, 07:21 PM
Returns tomorrow at the spa.Short but competitive field,owes alot of cappers money,are you buying his stock tomorrow or selling?
OTM Al
07-28-2011, 10:21 PM
Returns tomorrow at the spa.Short but competitive field,owes alot of cappers money,are you buying his stock tomorrow or selling?

He's good to fill exactas and tris, but needs a perfect setup to win. I sell.
lamboguy
07-28-2011, 10:35 PM
i heard the horse is training great. i am bullish. but there are better spots in saratoga tomorrow to bet real money
toussaud
07-29-2011, 12:58 AM
honestly, at his best i still think don't think he would win. Even so I am not a Lezcano fan.

the horse that intrigues me in that race is Ron the Greek. He is with mott now and i like what i saw down at gulfstream alot. would want ice box to get played but i like Ron the Greek if he is around his M/L odds
Some_One
07-29-2011, 01:47 AM
honestly, at his best i still think don't think he would win. Even so I am not a Lezcano fan.

the horse that intrigues me in that race is Ron the Greek. He is with mott now and i like what i saw down at gulfstream alot. would want ice box to get played but i like Ron the Greek if he is around his M/L odds

Both are deep closers up against a small field and track bias, give me the outside two at a price
KingChas
07-29-2011, 11:45 PM
Both are deep closers

New running style.......... Gunned from the gate ................. :eek:
toussaud
07-29-2011, 11:49 PM
yeah apparently ice box channeled his inner ghostzapper and tired to wire the field. the problem is he isn't ghostzapper
duncan04
07-30-2011, 12:56 AM
New running style.......... Gunned from the gate ................. :eek:


Think that surprised alot of people
Spalding No!
07-30-2011, 01:41 AM
Think that surprised alot of people

Not that it makes it any less surprising, but IIRC, Ice Box showed speed in a couple of his races at GP early last year.
Casino
07-30-2011, 07:38 AM
Turf maybe the next move.
toussaud
07-30-2011, 07:42 AM
his dam was a top flight turf mare. might be the ticket.
the little guy
07-30-2011, 08:00 AM
Turf maybe the next move.

No it won't.
OTM Al
07-30-2011, 08:08 AM
He's good to fill exactas and tris, but needs a perfect setup to win. I sell.

Why would this ever change? New style, same horse.
toussaud
07-30-2011, 08:09 AM
TLG brings up a good point. i can't remember the last time i saw a zito turf horse. don't think that's going to happen. I think he has a better chance of retiring than him going to turf.
the little guy
07-30-2011, 08:28 AM
TLG brings up a good point. i can't remember the last time i saw a zito turf horse. don't think that's going to happen. I think he has a better chance of retiring than him going to turf.


I didn't bring up a good point. I know his next start is unlikely to be a turf race. However, given his breeding, turf is clearly an option. But, potential stallions aren't raced on the turf until their dirt options become, let's say, limited as far as realism at least.

Ice Box was off a long layoff, and as such needed to gain conditioning from a race like yesterday's, and thus being sent to the lead likely accomplished that much better than sitting last off a slow pace would have. Either way, he wasn't winning, so he both maximized his chances and gained valuable conditioning. Sounds like a good plan that worked well to me.