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Robert Fischer
07-24-2011, 05:17 PM
Repole , Pletcher cream of the crop.
anything can happen, but he looks tough here.

there's really only two things i'm watching here

at the break - i want to see if he breaks standing up this time, without going down
also at the break - will sanchez lean out with the 5 (especially if the 6 OVERDRIVEN goes to his knees (""))

toussaud
07-24-2011, 05:39 PM
he was head to head with the 4 in the stretch, hell i thought the 4 had a small lead. johnny hits him with the right, the horse leans into the 4, the 4 takes up / goes off stride a tad and overdriven pulls off. not even the thought of an inquiry, dont' want to piss pletcher off. you can have him and his loud mouth owner. of course now i have to listen to jeff siegal (insert your own word here) on HRTV for the next hour or so.

not even the best 2YO i've seen yet anyway

redshift1
07-24-2011, 05:48 PM
he was head to head with the 4 in the stretch, hell i thought the 4 had a small lead. johnny hits him with the right, the horse leans into the 4, the 4 takes up / goes off stride a tad and overdriven pulls off. not even the thought of an inquiry, dont' want to piss pletcher off. you can have him and his loud mouth owner. of course now i have to listen to jeff siegal (insert your own word here) on HRTV for the next hour or so.

not even the best 2YO i've seen yet anyway

An ok win, but to early to tell , I didn't see any infraction.

toussaud
07-24-2011, 05:51 PM
when i see 2 horses neck and neck and i see one of the 2 just pull up i tend to want an inquiry. Even if he didn't do it, i think he was the best horse he would have won but my gosh pretend like you aren't bias is my point.

lamboguy
07-24-2011, 05:52 PM
i hope the horse stays sound, because that horse is real good.

Robert Fischer
07-24-2011, 05:53 PM
when i see 2 horses neck and neck and i see one of the 2 just pull up i tend to want an inquiry. Even if he didn't do it, i think he was the best horse he would have won but my gosh pretend like you aren't bias is my point.

not sure if there was an infraction or he just beat him to the spot. I'll have to watch the head-ons tonight. did see the Ward horse go to the wrong lead late.


It looked like overdriven broke fine , couldn't see for sure yet.

Robert Fischer
07-24-2011, 06:03 PM
i hope the horse stays sound, because that horse is real good.

he took over 70% of the WPS money...

ten2oneormore
07-24-2011, 06:40 PM
Pletcher sweeps both 2 yr old stakes

Friday
Georgie's Angel---1:10.68


Sunday
Overdriven---1:10.60


5 Yr Old Happy Bull won the 50k Optional Claimer in 1:10.77 today


Pletchers 3 yr old MSW winner on Saturday
R King Of The Road---1:09.08

horses4courses
07-24-2011, 06:59 PM
This year's Uncle Mo........ :ThmbUp:

Some_One
07-24-2011, 07:31 PM
Another quick Pletcher 2 yr old that is doomed to a fate full of injuries in the coming months.

speed
07-24-2011, 07:53 PM
he was head to head with the 4 in the stretch, hell i thought the 4 had a small lead. johnny hits him with the right, the horse leans into the 4, the 4 takes up / goes off stride a tad and overdriven pulls off. not even the thought of an inquiry, dont' want to piss pletcher off. you can have him and his loud mouth owner. of course now i have to listen to jeff siegal (insert your own word here) on HRTV for the next hour or so.

not even the best 2YO i've seen yet anyway
The only infraction in the race was the 4 out of the gate.

Steve R
07-24-2011, 08:47 PM
Will end up as a sprinter.

Robert Fischer
07-24-2011, 09:07 PM
The only infraction in the race was the 4 out of the gate.

the 4 came over and knocked the 1 pretty good.

looking at the head-on i actually didn't see contact with the winner Overdriven around the turn or stretch.

toussaud
07-24-2011, 09:23 PM
Pletcher sweeps both 2 yr old stakes

Friday
Georgie's Angel---1:10.68


Sunday
Overdriven---1:10.60


5 Yr Old Happy Bull won the 50k Optional Claimer in 1:10.77 today


Pletchers 3 yr old MSW winner on Saturday
R King Of The Road---1:09.08r king of the road is the best perforamnce i've seen at saratoga so far. that was damn impressive

Dexter M
07-25-2011, 09:52 AM
he was head to head with the 4 in the stretch, hell i thought the 4 had a small lead. johnny hits him with the right, the horse leans into the 4, the 4 takes up / goes off stride a tad and overdriven pulls off. not even the thought of an inquiry, dont' want to piss pletcher off. you can have him and his loud mouth owner. of course now i have to listen to jeff siegal (insert your own word here) on HRTV for the next hour or so.

not even the best 2YO i've seen yet anyway

you should check out the head on replay of the race. you can see why there was no inquiry. overdriven was straight as an arrow through the stretch. the 4, who was spent at that point, reacts to getting hit with the whip left handed and comes in, but overdriven was over a length clear at that point.

there was no bias, just no infraction.

BIG49010
07-25-2011, 11:22 AM
Pletcher sweeps both 2 yr old stakes

Friday
Georgie's Angel---1:10.68


Sunday
Overdriven---1:10.60


5 Yr Old Happy Bull won the 50k Optional Claimer in 1:10.77 today


Pletchers 3 yr old MSW winner on Saturday
R King Of The Road---1:09.08

Time doesn't mean anything unless your in jail!

Si2see
07-25-2011, 11:58 AM
Will end up as a sprinter.

Same thing I think, once they realize the horse isn't going long.

toussaud
07-25-2011, 11:59 AM
people actually still look at 2YO's in mid july as 2 turn candidates?

redshift1
07-25-2011, 12:11 PM
Some top 2yr old Beyers from this weekend

Secret Circle 97 Beyer, Sired by Eddington

Overdriven 93 Beyer, sired by Tale of the Cat

I liked SC's race on Saturday better than Overdriven's despite comparing MSW with Stakes.

cj
08-18-2011, 04:45 PM
Does Pletcher ever keep a horse healthy and running well for more than a few starts?

tribecaagent
08-18-2011, 05:33 PM
Its quite funny actually....in a separate thread, another poster was accusing Michael Matz of the exact same thing

onefast99
08-19-2011, 10:42 AM
Does Pletcher ever keep a horse healthy and running well for more than a few starts?
Harlem Rocker was one of those who didn't stay healthy under TAP.

cj
08-19-2011, 10:56 AM
Harlem Rocker was one of those who didn't stay healthy under TAP.

That is a very long list.

toussaud
08-26-2011, 12:37 PM
done for the year per hrtv