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JustRalph
07-20-2011, 06:23 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/20/report-private-sector-job-creation-ground-to-a-halt-almost-instantly-after-obamacare-passed/

ArlJim78
07-20-2011, 06:55 PM
but but Madame speaker said it was really a jobs bill, and that the bill would create 400,000 jobs immediately. imagine if they had been successful at ramming through cap and trade?

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maddog42
07-21-2011, 12:28 AM
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/20/report-private-sector-job-creation-ground-to-a-halt-almost-instantly-after-obamacare-passed/

Obamacare may or may not have been the cause for Job slow down. This reasoning is tenuous at best. Even the article says it may be acausal.These people are grasping at straws expecially since none of the Obamacare laws had taken effect.

jognlope
07-21-2011, 10:04 AM
I wish there'd been a public option, but wouldn't have passed ,too top heavy in govt. I don't like employers having to pay any insurance, it's too costly. Public option or adding Medicare part C or something like that or raising eligibility for Medicaid, or even just giving alottments to hospitals to covered uninsured, but some employers are making sure they have under 50 employees to get out of the AHC act.

Tom
07-21-2011, 10:31 AM
The only way health costs will ever go down is if we have to buy our own, not our employers. We need to see the prices and feel the outrage and demand action. As long as the cost is invisible to us, they will milk the costs.
Same with taxes, actually - we should take home 100% of our checks and have to pay all the various taxes ourselves. Watch the Tea Party ranks swell overnight!

The government and business need to be reigned in and put in their places.

ArlJim78
07-21-2011, 10:44 AM
Obamacare may or may not have been the cause for Job slow down. This reasoning is tenuous at best. Even the article says it may be acausal.These people are grasping at straws expecially since none of the Obamacare laws had taken effect.
the thing is if you're a business owner you don't wait until it's fully implemented to realize that you had better not hire anyone.

we were told that this bill was going to lead to lowered costs, in fact the average family was supposed to save over $2,000 per year according to our brilliant president. Has anyone seen any savings yet?

we were also told this would be a boon for jobs, and we'd see immediate hiring.
the only hiring has been by the government in order to write regulations and staff the bureaucracy.

JustRalph
07-21-2011, 12:25 PM
the thing is if you're a business owner you don't wait until it's fully implemented to realize that you had better not hire anyone.

we were told that this bill was going to lead to lowered costs, in fact the average family was supposed to save over $2,000 per year according to our brilliant president. Has anyone seen any savings yet?

we were also told this would be a boon for jobs, and we'd see immediate hiring.
the only hiring has been by the government in order to write regulations and staff the bureaucracy.

Don't see how many like mad dog can't see this?

The business climate will not change until these anti business buffoons are out of Washington.

boxcar
07-21-2011, 01:20 PM
Obamacare may or may not have been the cause for Job slow down. This reasoning is tenuous at best. Even the article says it may be acausal.These people are grasping at straws expecially since none of the Obamacare laws had taken effect.

You'd make a great politician. Fully qualified. Think for the moment and never beyond the nose on the front of your face. For your info, successful companies tend not to do that. Unlike you, companies see the handwriting on the wall with Obamination Care. They don't have to wait until it kicks in.

Boxcar