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NJ Stinks
07-07-2011, 02:25 AM
If you aren't aware, Murdoch owns News International and his son (Jim) helps run it. And, of course, Murdoch owns FOX News and all the FOX brand stations here in the USA.

Anyway, Murdoch's News International owns News Of The World, a weekly Sunday rag in the UK. It's what the News Of The World did that has Murdoch and the UK Conservative Prime Minister Cameron in a bind. Because Cameron wants his friend Rupert to buy the giant satellite broadcaster BSkyB which would be a disaster in any circumstance according to the UK's Daily Telegraph article quoted below:

"It is essential this information be placed in the public domain because of the shocking decision made last week by the Coalition government to allow Mr Murdoch to entrench his monopoly power over the British media by purchasing the 61 per cent of the satellite broadcaster BSkyB he does not already own. This decision now stinks, and must be reversed."
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Have I mentioned that Murdoch is an Aussie? :rolleyes:
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From the Daily Telegraph website tonight:
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David Cameron is in the sewer because of his News International friends


By Peter Oborne (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/author/peteroborne/), Politics (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/category/politics/)
Last updated: July 6th, 2011


[Short excerpt below:]



David Cameron, who has returned from Afghanistan as a profoundly damaged figure, now faces exactly such a crisis. The series of disgusting revelations concerning his friends and associates from Rupert Murdoch’s News International has permanently and irrevocably damaged his reputation.

Until now it has been easy to argue that Mr Cameron was properly grounded with a decent set of values. Unfortunately, it is impossible to make that assertion any longer. He has made not one, but a long succession of chronic personal misjudgments.

He should never have employed Andy Coulson, the News of the World editor, as his director of communications. He should never have cultivated Rupert Murdoch. And – the worst mistake of all – he should never have allowed himself to become a close friend of Rebekah Brooks, the chief executive of the media giant News International, whose departure from that company in shame and disgrace can only be a matter of time.
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The entire article at the link below:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100095686/david-cameron-is-in-the-sewer-because-of-his-news-international-friends/

bigmack
07-07-2011, 02:56 AM
Murdoch has a knack for twisting your panties time and time again.

What a shocking story. SHOCKING! :sleeping:

redshift1
07-07-2011, 03:52 AM
Note, the Telegraph is owned by the Barclay brothers and could be in competition with the Murdoch operated papers, odder yet the Telegraph appears to employ the same techniques of lurid sensationalism as the Murdoch brand by taking a smallish story and hyping it as regime changing breaking news.

Robert Goren
07-07-2011, 08:11 AM
Note, the Telegraph is owned by the Barclay brothers and could be in competition with the Murdoch operated papers, odder yet the Telegraph appears to employ the same techniques of lurid sensationalism as the Murdoch brand by taking a smallish story and hyping it as regime changing breaking news.There is nothing small about this story. Even Fox News is reporting on it. Murdoch is thinking about visiting with some of the victims. Here is a link to it from the News Corp owned Dow Jones business wire via FoxBusiness.com.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/07/06/news-corps-murdoch-may-meet-some-victims-phone-hacking/

Rookies
07-07-2011, 11:31 AM
Trouble with a capital 'T', for Monsieur Faux ! He's taking a whipping- http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/phone-hacking-scandal-likely-marks-end-of-media-barons-control-of-british-politics/article2089245/page2/

And the News of the World Advertisers are voting with their feet.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/european/murdoch-advertisers-get-cold-feet-over-hacking-claims/article2088099/

The tide goes out on everyone, one day.

DJofSD
07-07-2011, 11:39 AM
NJS, it seems he's guilty by association.

Robert Goren
07-07-2011, 02:15 PM
Murdoch is closing down the paper.

Rookies
07-07-2011, 02:51 PM
Murdoch is closing down the paper.

Well, well. I'm glad this story was so miniscule, it had no traction. :lol: :rolleyes:

NJ Stinks
07-07-2011, 02:59 PM
From The Guardian website in the UK:
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News of the World axed by News International

Sunday edition of Murdoch's tabloid to be last in the aftermath of political and commercial fallout from phone-hacking scandal

Read News International's statement in full (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world)


James Robinson (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/jamesrobinson), Kirsty Scott (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/kirstyscott) and Mark Sweney (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/marksweney)
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/), Thursday 7 July 2011 16.56 BST
Article history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-to-close#history-link-box)
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/7/7/1310054565692/News-of-the-World-007.jpgNews of the World: to be closed after 168 years

News International (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/newsinternational) announced on Thursday that it is closing the News of the World (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/newsoftheworld) after this Sunday's edition, with no end in sight to the political and commercial fallout from the phone-hacking scandal after 72 hours of mounting crisis.

Sunday's edition of the paper will be the last, News International chairman James Murdoch (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/jamesmurdoch) told News of the World staff on Thursday afternoon.

Murdoch told employees at the 168-year-old title: "The News of the World is in the business of holding others to account. But it failed to when it came to itself".

Murdoch said in a statement: "Wrongdoers turned a good newsroom bad and this was not fully understood or adequately pursued."

Full article at the link below:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-to-close

redshift1
07-07-2011, 04:05 PM
There is nothing small about this story. Even Fox News is reporting on it. Murdoch is thinking about visiting with some of the victims. Here is a link to it from the News Corp owned Dow Jones business wire via FoxBusiness.com.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/07/06/news-corps-murdoch-may-meet-some-victims-phone-hacking/

The Telegraph article in the OP discusses some possible political consequences David Cameron might encounter as a result of his perceived association with RM. The real focus of the story was DC not the hacking.

I'm no apologist for RM or News Corp but The Telegraph clearly has a dog in this hunt and can hardly be seen as unbiased. just pointing that out.

While the story has gained some legs, News Corp will continue to present
the news with a conservative bias in their attempt to sway ideologies of the sub 100 IQ club.

PaceAdvantage
07-07-2011, 06:10 PM
News Corp will continue to present
the news with a conservative bias in their attempt to sway ideologies of the sub 100 IQ club.Sounds like you're "all in" when it comes to digesting all the DNC mothership has to offer...if you can't be original, why bother?

Robert Goren
07-07-2011, 06:23 PM
It does raise some interesting questions. Do all or most English tabloids do this? Do other parts of the News Corp empire do it too? I don't know the answers, but I guess the answer to the first question is yes and the second is no. I think that Fox news for instance can be criticized for what they cover and for amount of coverage they give some stories, but I doubt they would sink that low.

bigmack
07-07-2011, 06:27 PM
While the story has gained some legs, News Corp will continue to present the news with a conservative bias in their attempt to sway ideologies of the sub 100 IQ club.
Shame you lack the savvy to Google search which party affiliation has a higher average IQ.

Viewers of MSNBC have a cumulative IQ of 81.

Rookies
07-07-2011, 06:51 PM
It does raise some interesting questions. Do all or most English tabloids do this? Do other parts of the News Corp empire do it too? I don't know the answers, but I guess the answer to the first question is yes and the second is no. I think that Fox news for instance can be criticized for what they cover and for amount of coverage they give some stories, but I doubt they would sink that low.

WHO knows, Robert ? Very good questions. I am always suspect that when one arm of the empire is rotten, that it's head knew about it and therefore condoned the behaviour. And do you think there hasn't been cross Atlantic chat previously among the Faux empire about this method of obtaining trash... err... 'News' ???:rolleyes:

Murdoch is pulling the plug here after stonewalling for years, because he can see the $$$ writing on the wall. This enquiry will expose a lot of scum and the Con Prime Minister Cameron will collect a fair bit of shite on his boots for his faux friends.

Tom
07-07-2011, 07:49 PM
Fox, Fox, Fox.

Someone google Media Matters.
Your tax dollars is helping theses low life cretins.

Rookies
07-11-2011, 10:20 AM
Orders from the top of News International allegedly tried to "ensure there were no libels or any hidden mocking messages of the chief executive" in the final edition (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2011/07/news-worlds-final-issue-fails-generate-sympathy/39768/) of News of the World, the Daily Mail reports (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013133/Rebekah-Brooks-News-World-staff-parting-shot-crossword.html). But that didn't stop the paper's wily, bitter, and freshly unemployed staff from hiding clues mocking Rebekah Brooks in the crossword puzzle in the final issue of the paper.

http://news.yahoo.com/news-world-staff-mocks-rebekah-brooks-final-crossword-164949001.html:lol:

Bwahaha. On the way out the door, the NOTW masses found a way to lash back at soon to be charged CEO Brooks, despite orders from the Top Faux to ensure everything was copasetic.:D

NJ Stinks
07-11-2011, 11:17 PM
Apparently, Murdoch's media empire did not endorse Gordon Brown. :rolleyes: Does anybody wonder if David Cameron got hacked too by News International? :rolleyes:

From the Daily Telegraph website tonight:
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News International: my son's medical records were hacked, says Gordon Brown

Medical records disclosing that Gordon Brown’s infant son had cystic fibrosis were illegally obtained by The Sun newspaper as part of a News International campaign against him and his family, friends of the former prime minister claims.


By Andrew Porter (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-porter/), and James Kirkup

9:51PM BST 11 Jul 2011

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/template/ver1-0/i/share/comments.gif200 Comments (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8631321/News-International-my-sons-medical-records-were-hacked-says-Gordon-Brown.html#disqus_thread)


Mr Brown was a repeated target for investigators working for the tabloid and its sister newspapers, The Sunday Times and the News of the World, it was alleged.


The newspapers obtained highly personal medical and financial information about him and his family.


The most emotive claim relates to Mr Brown’s son, Fraser, diagnosed with cystic fibrosis in 2006, soon after his birth. His condition was disclosed on The Sun’s website in November 2006, when he was four months old.
Mr Brown and his wife, Sarah, had only recently learned of their son’s condition, which often leads to a shortened lifespan. They were dismayed the paper had details of his illness.

....The allegations about the former prime minister mean that the scandal that brought down the News of the World is now spreading across Rupert Murdoch’s British newspaper group.

The entire article at the link below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8631321/News-International-my-sons-medical-records-were-hacked-says-Gordon-Brown.html

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IMO, if you think watching FOX News is giving you the unbiased truth about what's going on in the world, you are only fooling yourself. Now I understand that it doesn't matter to some of you. After all, the daily assault on Obama by FOX News fits your political view to a T.

But don't sit there and piously tell me that FOX News is the only media source worth watching. That is beyond absurd and was before the News Of The World scandal became front page news.

Rookies
07-11-2011, 11:38 PM
And here's the hook for Murdoch with FOX...

http://www.politicususa.com/en/murdoch-fcc

This is without yet finding out whether any FOX reporters on this side of the Atlantic aided and abetted the illegal activity of NOTW.

bigmack
07-11-2011, 11:51 PM
And here's the hook for Murdoch with FOX...

http://www.politicususa.com/en/murdoch-fcc

This is without yet finding out whether any FOX reporters on this side of the Atlantic aided and abetted the illegal activity of NOTW.
Good work thusfar. :ThmbUp: Let us know how this develops.

NJ & Rookies in a thought pattern not unlike one of the comments from Wookies link:

Murdoch wasn’t even a US citizen when Newscorp got its first TV license, and that was required by Federal law. The FCC let himget by with it. That alone was enough to deny him the license. Who did he buy off?
This sounds like it's going to be quite a caper. :D

Rookies
07-13-2011, 08:15 PM
Good work thusfar. :ThmbUp: Let us know how this develops.

NJ & Rookies in a thought pattern not unlike one of the comments from Wookies link:


This sounds like it's going to be quite a caper. :D

Sounds like it is... http://ca.news.yahoo.com/us-hacking-probe-criminal-acts-senator-155138481.html at is just jumped across the pond! Targetting the families of 9-11 victims?

Could the bar be set any lower for the Big Faux ?:ThmbDown:

NJS & I will keep leading ahead of the news... and you keep following behind the horse carriage Big Slack! :lol:

bigmack
07-13-2011, 09:21 PM
Could the bar be set any lower for the Big Faux ?:ThmbDown:
Only squares still use faux. Most left that behind about 3-4 years ago.

Do you have any original material at all?

Rookies
07-13-2011, 10:14 PM
Only squares still use faux. Most left that behind about 3-4 years ago.

Do you have any original material at all?

This is one of those times I like to adhere to con principles. When there's a phrase that nails something, that instantly conveys the meaning of an entire empire, I like to ensure that it's preserved for posterity. :ThmbUp:

And should the similar pond scum like behaviour have been entertained by Faux staff with respect to 9-11 families, there will be more than a media deal scuttled and a few criminal charges. A Con Government will certainly fall in England and the effects of such digusting behaviour will be felt in America.

BTW, do you have any material worth noting here- B Slack ? ;)

Tom
07-13-2011, 10:59 PM
Earlier, Democratic Senators Jay Rockefeller and Barbara Boxer urged Attorney General Eric Holder and Mary Schapiro, chief of the Wall Street watchdog Securities and Exchange Commission, to investigate whether US laws were broken

Gee, Holder is worried about breaking US laws, the same holder who sold guns to Mexican drug lords and got a customs agent murdered?

All star cast of great minds behind this investigation! :lol:

redshift1
07-14-2011, 03:05 PM
FBI to investigate Fox (News Corp) for U.S. phone hacking ????

Rookies
07-15-2011, 10:05 AM
A day after Bastille Day, off with the head of one of the (un)principle(d) Faux autocrats:
“In this House we are all, in our own way, scared of the Rebekah Brookses of this world,” he told parliament in September 2010.

“The barons of the media, with their red-topped assassins, are the biggest beasts in the modern jungle. They have no predators; they are untouchable. They laugh at the law; they sneer at parliament. They have the power to hurt us, and they do, with gusto and precision, with joy and criminality. Prime Ministers quail before them, and that is how they like it. That, indeed, has become how they insist upon it.”

That may now have changed. ;)


http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/07/15/brooks-resigns-over-news-corp-hacking-scandal/

More to come... Rupert Murdoch come on down!:lol:

Tom
07-15-2011, 10:08 AM
Was she talking about the American MSM and the way they manipulated the last election through biased reporting and at time, non-reporting?

Yes, terrible situation. A free press must be a responsible press.
Not so in America.

Robert Goren
07-15-2011, 11:51 AM
It is really fun to watch Fox's on air reporters cover this story.

JustRalph
07-15-2011, 01:37 PM
If you think the only Tabloid in the world that is bugging phones etc, is Murdoch's .........you are crazy

redshift1
07-15-2011, 04:41 PM
Dow Jones CEO resigns, this is much bigger than I originally thought.


I wonder if they were asked to resign as sacrificial lambs. Following the OSU template to avoid sanctions??

Rookies
07-16-2011, 11:10 AM
And how has the "Fair & Balanced" Network covered their OWN disaster ? Not quite a 10 foot pole, but not far off! :lol:

Yesterday's report, on Special Report with Bret Baier, gave three sentences to the news that Murdoch's deal with BSkyB was falling apart:

The British government says it will support a motion Wednesday calling for Rupert Murdoch to abandon his bid to take full control of British Sky Broadcasting. This comes in the wake of the phone hacking scandal that led Murdoch to cease publication of the tabloid, "News of the World," following Sunday's final edition. Murdoch owns the parent company of Fox News.

:D
On Monday, also on Bret Baier, the scandal earned four sentences about the victims of the scandal:

Employees of British tabloid paper "News of the World" reportedly hacked in the phones of some of the nation's most powerful figures, including royals and former Prime Minister Gordon Brown. British media also reports some royal protection officers sold personal details about Queen Elizabeth II to workers at the paper.

The "News of the World" published the final edition Sunday. It is owned by the parent company of the network. That company has acknowledged the allegations and asked for information to help its own investigation.

;)

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2011/07/fox-news-has-only-mentioned-news-corps-scandal-four-times/39937/

'Fair & Balanced' until the turd pile is steaming in your own living room.

ArlJim78
07-16-2011, 11:32 AM
rookies you really are embarrassing yourself on this story. I mean you've really shown how little objectivity you have with regard to Fox. The very story you linked to begins with an update/correction that you failed to mention and probably didn't even read.

Update: Fox News says their own internal tally shows that the News Corp. scandal has been mentioned at least 26 times, not the four times as this story was originally headlined, in the last two weeks. The network emphasized at least and said there may be instances they missed. The reason for the discrepancy between their count and ours is that theirs includes at least 21 instances in which the story was covered on programs that are not in the Lexis Nexis database of Fox News transcripts. On the shows that are indexed by Nexis, we do not know how many of these instances came on shows that aired on Wednesday after our original story was posted. Nor do we have a transcript to see what was said. (We're working on that.) But in the interest of fairness and accuracy, this is Fox News's breakdown of the minimum number of times their parent company's scandal has been covered on their network in the last week or so:

Fox & Friends - 4
America's Newsroom - 4
Happening Now - 2
Fox Report - 7
Special Report - 5
America's News HQ - 2
Studio B - 1
America Live - 1


I watch Fox business channel a fair amount, and the this story is in heavy rotation on every news update whenever there is a development.

The point is that they ARE covering the story which is much more fair and balanced than you can say about other networks which routinely embargo stories that they feel are damaging to their ideology. One example is how slow they are to pick up the fast and furious scandal.

by the way, how many stories showed up on NBC or messNBC about GE's corporate welfare, or the cozy relationship Immelt has with the administration and how they make billions in profits but coincidentally pay no taxes. how many sentences did Brian Williams devote to that scandal?

Robert Goren
07-16-2011, 11:53 AM
CNBC covered the GE story extensively when it broke and still gets a mention when ever cooperate tax rates are brought up.

So far there have been no allegations that anyone other than the News Corp owned paper bugged 9/11 survivors phones and emails. To me that is about as low as it gets. Murdock yesterday met the parents of a murder victim whose phone was tapped. Again no allegations that anyone else tapped their phone. If there are, please provide a link before you go off saying others do that kind of stuff.

Robert Goren
07-17-2011, 11:28 AM
From Fox News

London police arrested Rebekah Brooks, Rupert Murdoch's former British CEO, in the phone hacking and police bribery scandal Sunday, and the former News of the World editor said she was "assisting the police with their inquiries."

Brooks, 43, was arrested at a London police station at noon Sunday. She is being questioned on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications -- phone hacking -- and on suspicion of corruption, which relates to bribing police for information.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/17/rupert-murdoch-takes-out-another-ad-apologizing-for-uk-phone-hacking-scandal/#ixzz1SNPWzBhp

Rookies
07-17-2011, 12:47 PM
rookies you really are embarrassing yourself on this story. I mean you've really shown how little objectivity you have with regard to Fox. The very story you linked to begins with an update/correction that you failed to mention and probably didn't even read.



I watch Fox business channel a fair amount, and the this story is in heavy rotation on every news update whenever there is a development.

The point is that they ARE covering the story which is much more fair and balanced than you can say about other networks which routinely embargo stories that they feel are damaging to their ideology. One example is how slow they are to pick up the fast and furious scandal.

by the way, how many stories showed up on NBC or messNBC about GE's corporate welfare, or the cozy relationship Immelt has with the administration and how they make billions in profits but coincidentally pay no taxes. how many sentences did Brian Williams devote to that scandal?



Au contraire Jim, I deliberately picked that story to be as well... 'fair and balanced', to coin a phrase, to FOX, as previously versions earlier in the week were decidely stronger in the number of takes on the story. The above, that shows various ticks, is the FOX rebuttal- of course. There's no doubt, they ducked it, even to the point of discussing various UK phone scandals without implicating themselves as the one's perpetrating the crimes- a curious, out of body scenario to say the least!

Finally, finally, there's an in depth panel on FOX, a week in on the subject and after a lengthy news explanation of just the faux ma'am, it took Cal Lickshpittle, in his opening remarks, approximately 3 seconds to launch into an all out extensive attack on the Left.:lol: Yep, 'the Left' is responsible here and hacked all those phones...:bang:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1060360238001/tabloid-phone-hacking-scandal

How shocking that defense. ;)

Indeed NOTW has vigorously asserted various defenses along the way of this sordid scandal, from the "unsubstanitated rumour version" to the Cal Thomas attack from rivals obfuscation:

Bill Akass, the managing editor of News of the World, dismissed “unsubstantiated claims” that misconduct at the paper was widespread and said that rigorous safeguards had been adopted to prevent unethical reporting tactics. “We reject absolutely any suggestion or assertion that the activities of Clive Goodman and Glenn Mulcaire, at the time of their arrest, were part of a ‘culture’ of wrongdoing at the News of the World and were specifically sanctioned or accepted at senior level in the newspaper,” Akass wrote in an e-mail.

He accused The New York Times of writing about the case because of a rivalry with a competing media company.

See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/magazine/05hacking-t.html?pagewanted=all#muckreads

Today, Brooks has been arrested. In the near future others will surely follow at or near the very top of the empire. I do not believe for a milli-second that this scummy & illegal behaviour was not known to Murdoch- despite his mea culpas to the contrary.

In the end, the whole issue of execssive media concentartion will be discussed and probably acted upon by the British Parliament.

My beef with FOX Jim, as it is with several con voices, is the infuriating air of superiority they put out. That 'fair and balanced' b.s. mantra is equivalent to those moral majority con politicians who tell the rest of us why their way of life is so vastly morally superior and hectoring us about how we should conduct ourselves- until such time, of course, as they are caught in some moral terpitude situations themselves.

FOX needs to grow a pair and stop hiding behind a skirt. Junk that nonsense idiom and say:

" We are a conservative media empire. Everything we do and say here, from columnists to news to opinions, will be done to promote the conservative way of life as an alternative to the liberalism we perceive virtually everywhere else in media. We will promote the conservative way of thinking, analysis and response in every production and story; albeit attempting to have alternate positions for rebuttal purposes."

Now that would be truthful and although I wouldn't agree with many stories, it would get my grudging respect.

Tom
07-17-2011, 02:52 PM
Been reported on Fox news several times that I have seen, and every time thy identify the World org as their parent company.

You seem to be obsessed and clearly not too observant.

Robert Goren
07-17-2011, 03:25 PM
Watching this story being reported on Fox is like watching a lawyer making a statement after their client has been arrested.

Rookies
07-17-2011, 03:47 PM
Been reported on Fox news several times that I have seen, and every time thy identify the World org as their parent company.

You seem to be obsessed and clearly not too observant.

And you Tom, haven't been following along the past week. Of course, they are reporting NOW... + 8 days in. The fact that they HAVEN'T been has become the story on the side and they are being outted everywhere for not doing so.

Tom
07-17-2011, 06:43 PM
Duh. This happened in England - who gives a shot what goes on in England? We have important news at home. Now that the story has grown, sure cover it.

Are you as concerned over the lack of coverage about GE not paying any taxes by CNN?

Your are obsessed with Fox. Knowledge may set you free, but some people have a hard time digesting it. Put some rib sauce on it and try again.

DJofSD
07-18-2011, 06:07 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-british-whistleblower-dead-20010718,0,2693850.story

Police say Sean Hoare, the whistleblower reporter who alleged widespread hacking at the News of the World, has been found dead.

Robert Goren
07-18-2011, 06:21 PM
Fox News cover live Murdoch before the British Parliament.

NJ Stinks
07-19-2011, 02:21 AM
Duh. This happened in England - who gives a shot what goes on in England? We have important news at home. Now that the story has grown, sure cover it.

Are you as concerned over the lack of coverage about GE not paying any taxes by CNN?

Your are obsessed with Fox. Knowledge may set you free, but some people have a hard time digesting it. Put some rib sauce on it and try again.

This could be the lamest post you ever posted. Either you can't see the forest for the trees or you just don't give a shit as long as your message gets out.

Is it right by any figment of the imagination that one media conglomorate (TV and newspapers) can do a hatchet job on one politician day after day and spread good propaganda on their guy day after day? Do you think Gordon Brown was or do you think that Barack is getting "fair and balanced" coverage from Murdoch's media empire?

You talk about stupid shit like who cares about what's happening in England when you've got an Aussie shaping public opinion in the UK and the U.S. Just because Murdoch favors conservatives like Cameron or anybody not named Obama doesn't mean it's OK to stack the deck every day. It's one thing to have Hannity give his opinions. It's another thing to slant the news on national television stations and in supposed legitimate "news"papers.

We used to have high standards when it came to journalism and TV news broadcasting in this country. Can anybody here say Murdoch's media companies have raised those standards? :rolleyes:

newtothegame
07-19-2011, 05:20 AM
This could be the lamest post you ever posted. Either you can't see the forest for the trees or you just don't give a shit as long as your message gets out.

Is it right by any figment of the imagination that one media conglomorate (TV and newspapers) can do a hatchet job on one politician day after day and spread good propaganda on their guy day after day? Do you think Gordon Brown was or do you think that Barack is getting "fair and balanced" coverage from Murdoch's media empire?

You talk about stupid shit like who cares about what's happening in England when you've got an Aussie shaping public opinion in the UK and the U.S. Just because Murdoch favors conservatives like Cameron or anybody not named Obama doesn't mean it's OK to stack the deck every day. It's one thing to have Hannity give his opinions. It's another thing to slant the news on national television stations and in supposed legitimate "news"papers.

We used to have high standards when it came to journalism and TV news broadcasting in this country. Can anybody here say Murdoch's media companies have raised those standards? :rolleyes:

Outside of Murdoch......, where is your outrage of THIS countries coverage of THIS president? Or is it your contention that he gets fair and balanced coverage from the mainstream here??? I am sure you get a tingle up your leg as well if you believe that!

Tom
07-19-2011, 07:47 AM
Anyone ever listen the the agenda of George Soros?
Just asking.

Kind of scary when you take into account that he has actually this crap before.

But I guess that is not important as having a gottcha FOX moment.

Rookies
07-19-2011, 08:51 AM
Some suggested queries for the Top Faux:

1. Plausible deniability: “The Guardian newspaper revealed in 2009 that News Group paid over $1.5 million to settle court cases that would have revealed the News of the World hired people to illegally hack into phones and private information of thousands of people. You said, ‘If that had happened, I would have known about it.’ Were you lying? If not, who on your payroll lied to you?”

2. Red-flagged criminality: “You’re infamous as a proprietor who calls his editors about minute details of coverage. Why should we believe you never asked where the private phone information on little Milly Dowler, who was likely already dead, came from? Or the private hospital information on former prime minister Gordon Brown’s very ill son?”

3. Dirty money: “Paying hackers was costly. Someone had to approve the payments and many pairs of eyes would have noted them. Did any of your senior executives know of or sign off on the payments?”

4. Corporations as famiglia: “It does not appear that News Corp. is morally fit to own much of the U.K.’s TV and newspapers, the centre of questions over your attempt to buy the rest of Sky TV. Are you fit? Since your family members are all deliberately placed to inherit the running of the business, are any Murdochs fit? The Wall Street Journal, which does worldwide financial reporting, is of particular concern. Will you be outsourcing your management?”

5. A corporate hacking culture: “You hacked to further your business interests in the U.K., and hacked the phones of 9/11 victims. It has been suggested by The New York Times that News America computer-hacked other companies, settling the subsequent lawsuits out of court. Would you have us believe that the practice of hacking to further your business interest was individually conceived on both sides of the Atlantic and did not spring from you?”...

See: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1026722--mallick-10-quick-questions-for-the-dirty-digger?bn=1

Robert Goren
07-19-2011, 09:11 AM
This is a great story. Upper management resigning and then being arrested. Murder victims phones hacked. Police being bribed. Company employees on the police payroll. Connections to the highest levels of the British governments. Wrong doing to the families of 9/11. The parent company of some America's most read and most watched news sources involved. Its COO going before Parliament. High police officials forced to resign.But no sex so far.

Tom
07-19-2011, 09:15 AM
Get on the case, Bobby......oh, wait, they cancelled you.

Robert Goren
07-19-2011, 09:27 AM
Get on the case, Bobby......oh, wait, they cancelled you.Yes, they did. But never fear, Fox news has put Geraldo Rivera on the case.

dartman51
07-19-2011, 09:32 AM
I think it's very interesting how many here, are willing , dare I say, in a hurry, to assume that this responsibility goes all the way to the top. Funny how those same people aren't too eager to say that the responsibility for the "Fast and Furious" scandal, goes all the way to the top.

cj's dad
07-19-2011, 12:10 PM
Rupert Murdoch attacked during hearing in the last hour.

Film at 11.

Update- hit with a pie. :lol:

DJofSD
07-19-2011, 12:27 PM
LAT's jpeg showing the pie prelude. (http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2011-07/63348170-19091622.jpg)

ArlJim78
07-19-2011, 12:55 PM
Has Nancy Grace started to cover this newscorp story yet? For overall worldwide hype factor this thing supercedes the Caycee Anthony story.

Rookies
07-19-2011, 01:25 PM
Has Nancy Grace started to cover this newscorp story yet? For overall worldwide hype factor this thing supercedes the Caycee Anthony story.

:ThmbUp:

THIS story has a hell of a lot of trash, but few would say it was the 'Trailer' type.

Sugar Ron
07-19-2011, 02:03 PM
Wonder how this old con Murdoch would look in an orange jumpsuit...

Tom
07-19-2011, 02:10 PM
Like a democrat?

DJofSD
07-19-2011, 02:42 PM
Chances are, he is a democrat.

I wonder what is worse: hacking cell phones or using the FBI to investigate it?

hcap
07-19-2011, 03:02 PM
I wonder if Fox News political "consultants" like Palin are getting nervous.

If I were Hannity I would squirm more than usual.

Mike at A+
07-19-2011, 03:58 PM
Hannity could have retired comfortably 5 years ago. I wouldn't worry about him.

Robert Goren
07-19-2011, 04:58 PM
Chances are, he is a democrat.

I wonder what is worse: hacking cell phones or using the FBI to investigate it?I really doubt that.

skate
07-19-2011, 06:02 PM
for all these years i wondered why this guy seemed to come accross with the truth.

Ha:lol: cause he had it "First Hand".:)

Rookies
07-20-2011, 09:12 AM
Watching the Faux Con team, Pere et Fils + Huge Hair Lady, defend themselves yesterday was priceless. The News Corp legal beagles made the astute decision to have Junior handle most of the barrage, as Top Faux comes off as a curmudgeon second only to say… Tom! ;)

And, of course they could answer all the questions until such time as the heat was applied in the kitchen.
Did they 'plead the fifth' ? No, rather it was the classic Sgt. Shultz routine:

· I know nothing (despite being the micromanaging newshound that he is and always has been);
· I wasn’t there at the time and wasn't aware of these practices;
· These incriminating documents just ‘appeared’ and I haven’t read them all yet, despite our previous denials that these things ever happened;
· I can’t discuss any of that as the matter has been referred to the police;
· I have no knowledge of the legal defence contract being paid by News Corp on behalf of the alleged criminals, formerly employedby us;
· I didn’t sign off on it and I’m not certain who did;
· I never heard of 600k and 1 millionk pound sterling payoffs and secrecy MOUs; after all who would in a 'normal' biz day ?


On and on it went, as the replies strained any credulity.

And then the final kicker at the end-

“Are YOU responsible Mr. Murdoch, Senior? “

Murdoch: (Like the usual, spineless, weasely pol) “ No, no I’m not and I blame everyone else.”

Way to own a pair Rupert and take responsibility as the head of your own Corp. The hearings into media control will remember that.

ArlJim78
07-20-2011, 09:16 AM
Monday, the day before Murdoch testified to parliament would have been a good day to buy newscorp stock. the point of maximum hype and hysteria and negative downward pressure on the stock.

ArlJim78
07-20-2011, 11:07 AM
hmmm. alltime leaders with respect to receiving corporate donations from news corp.

1) Barack Obama
2) Hillary Clinton
3) John Kerry
4) Barbara Boxer
5) Gray Davis

http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/news-corp/5ef7cbb9b1344042884f5c699eaabaa0

Tom
07-20-2011, 11:22 AM
Fair....balanced.

I think not. Looks like a left bias to me!

ArlJim78
07-20-2011, 11:41 AM
plus news corp pays taxes, not like corporate welfare queen GE.

Robert Goren
07-20-2011, 12:15 PM
hmmm. alltime leaders with respect to receiving corporate donations from news corp.

1) Barack Obama
2) Hillary Clinton
3) John Kerry
4) Barbara Boxer
5) Gray Davis

http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/news-corp/5ef7cbb9b1344042884f5c699eaabaa0 Someone forgot to tell their on air people.

NJ Stinks
07-22-2011, 02:30 AM
The UK's Guardian newspaper covers how FOX hosts O'Really and Hanky are covering the story. And Michael Savage too.
_________________________________________



The Right Word: Bill O'Reilly breaks Fox News silence on phone hacking

Rightwing talk show hosts finally get to grips with the phone hacking story

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Sadhbh Walshe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/sadhbh-walshe)
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/), Thursday 21 July 2011 16.30 BST
Bill O'Reilly

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2008/08/19/BillOReilly140.jpg

Bill O'Reilly finally lifted the veil of silence (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201107200003) that has shrouded the hacking scandal involving News Corporation, which owns Fox News (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/fox-news). It is unclear why he waited until Tuesday, (the same day that Rupert Murdoch had to eat humble pie during a British parliamentary investigation) to finally mention the scandal that has dominated coverage on every other major network. Perhaps he felt compelled to respond to a memo released by the watchdog group Media Matters, (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201107180023) which O'Reilly to uphold his oft-stated commitment to "independence" from News Corp's influence or perhaps the anchor was concerned that he could jeopardize his status as "the most trusted political reporter in America" if he failed to even acknowledge a major news story just because it involves the company he works for.

Anyway, whatever his reasons, he finally decided that avoiding the issue was not going to make the story go away.

He got an update on the status quo from Fox News correspondent Amy Kellogg and while he did acknowledge that the story was pretty big and "is going up and up and up" all the way to David Cameron and that the hacking of Milly Dowler's phone was " the kind of thing that will anger folks", he still thought that the scandal was mostly a British problem that the US media are making too much of.

The rest at the link below:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/21/fox-news-phone-hacking

PaceAdvantage
07-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Bill O'Reilly is "right wing?"

How far?

bigmack
07-23-2011, 04:54 PM
NJ & Rookies caught up in a farcical case of schadenfreude. When they learned Murdoch had a pie smeared in his face it had a Viagra-like effect on the duo. :rolleyes:

Rookies
07-23-2011, 05:34 PM
NJ & Rookies caught up in a farcical case of schadenfreude. When they learned Murdoch had a pie smeared in his face it had a Viagra-like effect on the duo. :rolleyes:

Shadenfreude for taking down this Con curmudgeon & certifiable liar for sure!:ThmbUp: Maybe, you can hide behind his wife's skirts and assist him...:lol:

Hey dead to the game, thanks for comin' out today and offering... your usual- NADA :sleeping:

NJ Stinks
08-15-2011, 08:49 PM
Here's a snippet of an article in the Guardian that any clear-headed American should be concerned about. It is dated August 10, 2011.
_____________________________

According to recent polls, Fox News viewers are the most misinformed of all news consumers. They are 12 percentage points more likely to believe the stimulus package caused job losses, 17 points more likely to believe Muslims want to establish Sharia law in America, 30 points more likely to say that scientists dispute global warming, and 31 points more likely to doubt President Obama's citizenship. At the height of the healthcare debate, more than two-thirds of Fox News viewers were convinced Obamacare would lead to a "government takeover", provide healthcare to illegal immigrants, pay for abortions and let the government decide when to pull the plug on grandma. In fact, a study by the University of Maryland revealed that ignorance of Fox viewers actually increases the longer they watch the network. That's because Ailes isn't interested in providing people with information, or even a balanced range of perspectives. Like his political mentor, Richard Nixon, Ailes traffics in the emotions of victimisation.
__________________________________________________ __

Here's the headline, byline, and link:

Roger Ailes and the rise of Fox News

Even Rupert Murdoch is afraid of Roger Ailes, the paranoid boss of Fox News. But 'the Chairman' is using his power to make Americans more rightwing, more ignorant and ever more terrified

Tim Dickinson


Wednesday 10 August 2011 20.00 BST
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/10/roger-ailes-fox-news-murdoch

johnhannibalsmith
08-15-2011, 08:59 PM
Here's a snippet of an article in the Guardian that any clear-headed American should be concerned about. ...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Spine chilling revelations about the idiot box!!

bigmack
08-15-2011, 08:59 PM
Here's a snippet of an article in the Guardian that any clear-headed American should be concerned about. It is dated August 10, 2011.
Lookie how hard you be workin' to get some traction on this nothing story.

Now this article you adduce is much like a steaming cow pie.

How 'bout you & Rookies get bent on the story all by yourselves in a blathering series of PM's? :kiss:

JustRalph
08-15-2011, 09:19 PM
Yeah right

PaceAdvantage
08-15-2011, 09:31 PM
They are 12 percentage points more likely to believe the stimulus package caused job lossesIt didn't?17 points more likely to believe Muslims want to establish Sharia law in AmericaThey don't? You're telling me there are no large groups of Muslims that want to establish Sharia law in the USA? This factual error right here invalidates the entire poll.30 points more likely to say that scientists dispute global warmingYou can't dispute a thermometer. What they dispute is the CAUSE. Another GIANT flaw in this poll.31 points more likely to doubt President Obama's citizenship.How can any common-sense person not doubt anything coming out of this guy's mouth. First off, he's a politician. Second, he's Obama.At the height of the healthcare debate, more than two-thirds of Fox News viewers were convinced Obamacare would lead to a "government takeover", provide healthcare to illegal immigrants, pay for abortions and let the government decide when to pull the plug on grandma.This is exactly what the far left wants though...is it not? They want healthcare to be taken over by government, they just haven't gotten their way yet. They want to provide healthcare to illegal immigrants (and in fact do so...see your local emergency room). They want to provide education to illegal immigrants (and in fact do so in many areas). They want the governement to pay for abortions, and you know this is a verifiable fact. And it's already been shown in many places that "they want the gov't to decide when to pull the plug on grandma." They just don't put it in those exact words.

Who the hell do you think you or this poll is kidding?

Tom
08-15-2011, 09:45 PM
Good one, NJ, but the only one who is likely to fall for this gag is mostie! :lol:

NJ Stinks
08-16-2011, 07:35 PM
Who the hell do you think you or this poll is kidding?

PA, you've got to at least try CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC once in a while! :p

NJ Stinks
08-16-2011, 07:38 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Spine chilling revelations about the idiot box!!

John, you never take me seriously. :(

;)

NJ Stinks
08-16-2011, 07:43 PM
Lookie how hard you be workin' to get some traction on this nothing story.



What do you want to talk about, MacK? Birth certificates? College grades?

PaceAdvantage
08-17-2011, 03:28 AM
PA, you've got to at least try CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC once in a while! :pI don't watch any of them...including FOX. I don't have time! :p