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NJ Stinks
07-06-2011, 10:05 PM
From the Washington Post website:
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A grand old cult


By Richard Cohen (http://www.washingtonpost.com/richard-cohen/2011/03/17/ABJicyI_page.html), Published: July 4, 2011


Someone ought to study the Republican Party. I am not referring to yet another political scientist but to a mental health professional, preferably a specialist in the power of fixations, obsessions and the like. The GOP needs an intervention. It has become a cult.

To become a Republican, one has to take a pledge. It is not enough to support the party or mouth banalities about Ronald Reagan; one has to promise not to give the government another nickel. This is called the “Taxpayer Protection Pledge (http://www.atr.org/taxpayer-protection-pledge-a2882),” issued by Americans for Tax Reform, an organization headed by the chirpy Grover Norquist. He once labeled the argument that an estate tax would affect only the very rich “the morality of the Holocaust.” Anyone can see how singling out the filthy rich and the immensely powerful and asking them to ante up is pretty much the same as Auschwitz and that sort of thing.

Norquist’s pledge refers not only to tax increases but also to closing any loopholes, no matter how egregious, that would bring the government more money “unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates (http://www.atr.org/userfiles/Senate%20Pledge(2).pdf).” Almost all the GOP’s presidential candidates have taken this oath, swearing before God and Grover Norquist to cease thinking on their own, never to exercise independent judgment and, if necessary, to destroy the credit of the United States, raise the cost of borrowing and put the government deeper into the hole.

Yet another pledge concerns abortion. It is called the “Pro-Life Leadership Pledge,” and it was conceived by the Susan B. Anthony List (http://www.sba-list.org/2012pledge), an antiabortion group. Once again, most — but not all — of the GOP presidential candidates have signed it. In general, it demands a complete antiabortion position, not just personal opposition but opposition to judges, health officials and others who might, totally inexplicably, permit abortion. The pledge is silent about the usual exceptions — rape, incest, etc. — but Marjorie Dannenfelser, head of the Susan B. Anthony List, tells me the intent is to prohibit all abortions — even, say, the early termination of a 12-year-old’s pregnancy caused by incest. This, in other words, is the Pro-Hypocrisy Pledge.

More at the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-grand-old-cult/2011/07/02/gHQAOnlByH_story.html

Tom
07-06-2011, 10:08 PM
You are trying to tell me someone has to sign a pledge before checking off "Republican" on their voter registration?????

mostpost
07-06-2011, 10:29 PM
From the Washington Post website:
________________________________


A grand old cult


By Richard Cohen (http://www.washingtonpost.com/richard-cohen/2011/03/17/ABJicyI_page.html), Published: July 4, 2011


Someone ought to study the Republican Party. I am not referring to yet another political scientist but to a mental health professional, preferably a specialist in the power of fixations, obsessions and the like. The GOP needs an intervention. It has become a cult.

To become a Republican, one has to take a pledge. It is not enough to support the party or mouth banalities about Ronald Reagan; one has to promise not to give the government another nickel. This is called the “Taxpayer Protection Pledge (http://www.atr.org/taxpayer-protection-pledge-a2882),” issued by Americans for Tax Reform, an organization headed by the chirpy Grover Norquist. He once labeled the argument that an estate tax would affect only the very rich “the morality of the Holocaust.” Anyone can see how singling out the filthy rich and the immensely powerful and asking them to ante up is pretty much the same as Auschwitz and that sort of thing.

Norquist’s pledge refers not only to tax increases but also to closing any loopholes, no matter how egregious, that would bring the government more money “unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates (http://www.atr.org/userfiles/Senate%20Pledge(2).pdf).” Almost all the GOP’s presidential candidates have taken this oath, swearing before God and Grover Norquist to cease thinking on their own, never to exercise independent judgment and, if necessary, to destroy the credit of the United States, raise the cost of borrowing and put the government deeper into the hole.

Yet another pledge concerns abortion. It is called the “Pro-Life Leadership Pledge,” and it was conceived by the Susan B. Anthony List (http://www.sba-list.org/2012pledge), an antiabortion group. Once again, most — but not all — of the GOP presidential candidates have signed it. In general, it demands a complete antiabortion position, not just personal opposition but opposition to judges, health officials and others who might, totally inexplicably, permit abortion. The pledge is silent about the usual exceptions — rape, incest, etc. — but Marjorie Dannenfelser, head of the Susan B. Anthony List, tells me the intent is to prohibit all abortions — even, say, the early termination of a 12-year-old’s pregnancy caused by incest. This, in other words, is the Pro-Hypocrisy Pledge.

More at the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-grand-old-cult/2011/07/02/gHQAOnlByH_story.html
It's not just a cult, it's a cult for dumb people.
Read some of the comments that follow your story. Sold2U wrote that FDR inherited a two year recession and that unemplouyment was still in double digits five years later. It was a depression and it started in 1929. That is four years. And the double digit unemployment during the Hoover years was much higher than it was several years into FDR's term.

The there was the guy who did not know who Grover Norquist was. Just another guy with a blind faith in a failed economic philosophy.

The Republican cultists turn a blind eye to the proofs of global warming. The Republican cultists can't figure out that a strong economy requires a strong labor force. The Republican cultists don't understand that we can't act like arrogant jerks and expect other countries to support us. The Republican cultists don't realize that Wall Street is playing them for saps.
The Republican cultists are dumb. Now if you are not a Republican cultist, there is no need to be offended. :kiss:

mostpost
07-06-2011, 10:33 PM
You are trying to tell me someone has to sign a pledge before checking off "Republican" on their voter registration?????

No. He is trying to tell you that the Republican Party has been taken over by nutcases. It's been taken over by people who lack the ability to think for themselves. It's been taken over by people for whom rational thought has been replaced by superstition and fear. It's been taken over by fools who are pandering to bigger fools.

bigmack
07-06-2011, 10:39 PM
You'll see more & more of this as it dawns on many and becomes a foregone conclusion for all - BO is O.U.T.

Tom
07-06-2011, 10:41 PM
The Republican cultists turn a blind eye to the proofs of global warming.
The UN has admitted that the purpose of "green programs" is not environmental, but wealth distribution.

The Republican cultists can't figure out that a strong economy requires a strong labor force. You trying to tll me a union boy is a strong worker? :lol::lol::lol:

The Republican cultists don't understand that we can't act like arrogant jerks and expect other countries to support us. Where is all the respect and support for OBama? :D

The Republican cultists don't realize that Wall Street is playing them for saps.Obama is in the pocket of Wall Street. Who bailed them all out?


But thanks for playing/

Tom
07-06-2011, 10:43 PM
No. He is trying to tell you that the Republican Party has been taken over by nutcases. It's been taken over by people who lack the ability to think for themselves. It's been taken over by people for whom rational thought has been replaced by superstition and fear. It's been taken over by fools who are pandering to bigger fools.

Not from that article. Starts right off with a lie.
Are you saying that voter groups telling candidates to sign a pledge to actually do in office what they promise on the campaign trial is being a nutcase.

You guys should have tried that with the Lyin' African - Bush II! :lol:

ElKabong
07-06-2011, 11:15 PM
It's not just a cult, it's a cult for dumb people.


Now if you are not a Republican cultist, there is no need to be offended. :kiss:

You call out pubs as dumb people....I call out simple postal clerks as dumb (You), simple minded people that offer little value to society given their pay vs their contribution. Chirping birds with nothing to offer others but noise

Glad you can see we both have our opinions and are free to give them. So, don't go whining about abuse from posters here, ok? It's called tit for tat..You swing your bat, I'll swing mine.

Simple minded underachieving dummy, you are.

newtothegame
07-06-2011, 11:24 PM
It's not just a cult, it's a cult for dumb people.
Read some of the comments that follow your story. Sold2U wrote that FDR inherited a two year recession and that unemplouyment was still in double digits five years later. It was a depression and it started in 1929. That is four years. And the double digit unemployment during the Hoover years was much higher than it was several years into FDR's term.

The there was the guy who did not know who Grover Norquist was. Just another guy with a blind faith in a failed economic philosophy.

The Republican cultists turn a blind eye to the proofs of global warming. The Republican cultists can't figure out that a strong economy requires a strong labor force. The Republican cultists don't understand that we can't act like arrogant jerks and expect other countries to support us. The Republican cultists don't realize that Wall Street is playing them for saps.
The Republican cultists are dumb. Now if you are not a Republican cultist, there is no need to be offended. :kiss:

You say, as to being a republican "it's not just a cult, it's a cult for DUMB people"......

Then you make typos in your reply....

Are you republican by your insinuation?

Calling a group "dumb" isn't acting like an "arrogant jerk"??? :lol:

In typical lib fashion, I am sure you've made your fellow dems proud!

NJ Stinks
07-07-2011, 12:35 AM
You call out pubs as dumb people....I call out simple postal clerks as dumb (You), simple minded people that offer little value to society given their pay vs their contribution. Chirping birds with nothing to offer others but noise

Glad you can see we both have our opinions and are free to give them. So, don't go whining about abuse from posters here, ok? It's called tit for tat..You swing your bat, I'll swing mine.

Simple minded underachieving dummy, you are.

OK oh great one. Tell us again what it is you have accomplished in the private sector that makes you feel somehow superior.

ElKabong
07-07-2011, 12:51 AM
Sure. I'll start by saying I work in the private sector, don't belong to a union, don't make my living @ taxpayer's expense. If I don't contribute to my company's bottom line, I get replaced instantly.

And how about you? You're the one who said Anthony Weiner "represents me well". I can only assume you held a position where someone couldn't pull the wool over your eyes. So I'll reverse the whip and ask the same question of you....

In case you didn't notice, my reply to the mailbagger was half sarcastic. All pubs are of a stupid cult....what a dumbass comment, the kind s/he's been running with since s/he first posted here

NJ Stinks
07-07-2011, 01:39 AM
Sure. I'll start by saying I work in the private sector, don't belong to a union, don't make my living @ taxpayer's expense. If I don't contribute to my company's bottom line, I get replaced instantly.

And how about you? You're the one who said Anthony Weiner "represents me well". I can only assume you held a position where someone couldn't pull the wool over your eyes. So I'll reverse the whip and ask the same question of you....

In case you didn't notice, my reply to the mailbagger was half sarcastic. All pubs are of a stupid cult....what a dumbass comment, the kind s/he's been running with since s/he first posted here

Anthony Weiner represented and expressed my political views well. What made him particularly endearing is that he didn't take crap from Republicans, Tea Party members, or conservatives in general. And then he had to go and ruin it all. For reasons only a shrink may understand....

As for Mostpost's comments, no doubt he was laying it on a little thicker than usual here. But in his defense, he was still about 10 times more civil than most here treat Obama and the Democratic Party day in and day out.

riskman
07-07-2011, 02:52 AM
Obama’s Original Sin

The president’s failure to demand a reckoning from the moneyed interests who brought the economy down has cursed his first term, and could prevent a second. ... Read the story http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/obama-economy/presidents-failure/

President Obama was the same when he was a candidate -- a lot of hype for "hope and change." If anyone studied his background, he had a very small resume on leadership skills. This President does not seem to react visibly to anything that might be expected to produce an emotion or feeling. Is he a robot?

PaceAdvantage
07-07-2011, 03:41 AM
Nobody ever posts anything positive about Obama or his administration (hey, he killed Osama...yipee!!)

Anyway, all they do is character assassinations on Republicans and the party itself...

Yeah, that will work... :lol:

And I think I've said NO NAME CALLING. Apparently, some of you missed that memo. Guess it's time to close another thread.