The BO Chronicles: Countdown to Departure

[bigmack]

Thought it would be amusing to log the campaign & tidbit goings on for the next few months.

6/13: Fills half a hall of 2000 with tickets going for $44 and exclaims "We're only half way up the mountain."

6/14: Jokes "shovel ready jobs weren't that shovel ready" alongside bud Jeffie Immelt. Spends 5 hours in Puerto RICOact.

6/15: Announces raffle.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/raffle.png

[PaceAdvantage]

I swear I can't think of one good reason why this guy deserves to be reelected. bin Laden maybe? That's one mighty thin résumé to hang your hat on.

But then again, that's been his story from the beginning...

[jognlope]

Again, you offer no alternatives to what he did, just knocking down. Anybody can do that. So what would you have done instead of TARP, for example, which saved 450,000 jobs in local law enforcement and education? Instead of saving GM and the auto industry, getting Bin Laden? Just waiting for any republican to offer that "replace Obamacare" plan. Funny, still no details. A lot of charm and good looks from Bachman, STILL NO DETAILS. Just let us know, who need chemotherapy and the ER doesn't give it, what the uninsured do who have cancer and no insurance without the health care act.

Of course Fox has to be all over his shovel ready comment and take it out of context. The member of the audience who raised his hand was complaining about the permitting process. It's a case of a valid project that is still waiting for the LOCAL PEOPLE, not Obama, to issue the permit.

[dartman51]

Again, you offer no alternatives to what he did, just knocking down. Anybody can do that. So what would you have done instead of TARP, for example, which saved 450,000 jobs in local law enforcement and education? Instead of saving GM and the auto industry, getting Bin Laden? Just waiting for any republican to offer that "replace Obamacare" plan. Funny, still no details. A lot of charm and good looks from Bachman, STILL NO DETAILS. Just let us know, who need chemotherapy and the ER doesn't give it, what the uninsured do who have cancer and no insurance without the health care act.

Of course Fox has to be all over his shovel ready comment and take it out of context. The member of the audience who raised his hand was complaining about the permitting process. It's a case of a valid project that is still waiting for the LOCAL PEOPLE, not Obama, to issue the permit.


Would you tell me, please, how exactly did TARP save 450,000 jobs in local law enforcement and education??? :confused: GM and Chrysler should have been allowed to file bankruptcy, then they could have restructured. Funny how you want to talk about how Obama SAVED the auto industry, but don't mention FORD. FORD didn't receive STIMULUS money, and they are doing just fine. As for TARP, it was a BUSH thing, Obama just continued it. I was a BAD idea under Bush, and remained so under Obama.

[DJofSD]

Ya, the GM bond holders would have likely fared better if the law had been followed.

[bigmack]

6/17: Forty-four percent of registered voters say they are more likely to vote for "the Republican Party's candidate" and 39% for Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election, according to Gallup's June update.

- Carteresque - The misery index is at the highest level in 28 years.

[Tom]

Rush remarked that if he is losing to an unnamed republican, what will happen when he faces a brand name conservative? :lol:

[JustRalph]

I ran into a lady wearing an Obama t shirt today. I asked her if she was going to vote for him again. She replied " nothing could stop me from voting for any black democrat".

I asked her if she could vote for a black Repub. She said no. I asked her if she knew what color her Congressman was? She said she didn't care.

Going to be hard to beat the machine

[riskman]

In 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a case called Citizens United v. FEC that corporations have a “right” to spend unlimited money influencing elections.

Corporations are not people. Democracy is for people.

Anyone seeking office that supports a constitutional amendment to overturn the ruling and reclaim our democracy I will support.

I will be waiting a long time. :)

[Tom]

In 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a case called Citizens United v. FEC that corporations have a “right” to spend unlimited money influencing elections.

Corporations are not people. Democracy is for people.

Anyone seeking office that supports a constitutional amendment to overturn the ruling and reclaim our democracy I will support.

I will be waiting a long time. :)

Do you say the same thing about unions, who also throw boatloads of money into the races? Unions are businesses 100%.

I am all for banning both, and limiting all contributions to $100 per person per race period.

[cj's dad]

Again, you offer no alternatives to what he did, just knocking down. Anybody can do that. So what would you have done instead of TARP, for example, which saved 450,000 jobs in local law enforcement and education? Instead of saving GM and the auto industry, getting Bin Laden? Just waiting for any republican to offer that "replace Obamacare" plan. Funny, still no details. A lot of charm and good looks from Bachman, STILL NO DETAILS. Just let us know, who need chemotherapy and the ER doesn't give it, what the uninsured do who have cancer and no insurance without the health care act.

Of course Fox has to be all over his shovel ready comment and take it out of context. The member of the audience who raised his hand was complaining about the permitting process. It's a case of a valid project that is still waiting for the LOCAL PEOPLE, not Obama, to issue the permit.

You are a bigot

[lamboguy]

what i can see is that the leadership has gone bad here. first you have bush that his bigest legislative accomlishment was the patriot act, then in comes obama and his greatest feat was healthcare. both of these different bills that have nothing to do with each other has managed to strip what has made this country so great for over 200 years, they have both taken away human beings individuality. they have both made government laws smarter than the individuals that they govern. both laws fail to benefit the majority of the people that the leaders govern. yet it makes certain small segments of this country get very rich monetariily, and they have insured those people of their game lasting for a very long time because of the penalty's involved in an individual doesn't act properly. in short words the government has its citizens on their knees.
we have got hit in the face from the right and now the left, and i truly suspect that the next guy is going to hit us right down the middle and put us down for the count.

[ArlJim78]

President Barack Obama's Complete List Of Historic Firsts (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/06/president-barack-obamas-complete-list.html)

[mostpost]

President Barack Obama's Complete List Of Historic Firsts (http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/06/president-barack-obamas-complete-list.html)
Thank you for posting a list written by a guy who doesn't know history and doesn't know what words mean.
From your list.

• First President to Defy a Federal Judge's Court Order to Cease Implementing the 'Health Care Reform' Law
Perhaps true if you limit it to a Health Care Reform Law. Definitely not true otherwise. Wikipedia:

On April 27, 1861, the writ of habeas corpus was suspended by President Abraham Lincoln in Maryland and parts of midwestern states, including southern Indiana, during the American Civil War. Lincoln did so in response to riots, local militia actions, and the threat that the border slave state of Maryland would secede from the Union, leaving the nation's capital, Washington, D.C., surrounded by hostile territory. Lincoln chose to suspend the writ over a proposal to bombard Baltimore, favored by his General-in-Chief Winfield Scott.[9] Lincoln was also motivated by requests by generals to set up military courts to rein in "Copperheads," or Peace Democrats, and those in the Union who supported the Confederate cause.
His action was challenged in court and overturned by the U.S. Circuit Court in Maryland (led by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Roger B. Taney) in Ex Parte Merryman.[10] Lincoln ignored Taney's order.

• First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on 'Shovel-Ready' Jobs -- and Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs
0bama said that some jobs were not as shovel ready as first believed. Not the same as saying there was no such thing as shovel ready job.

First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of Companies to His Union Supporters
Abrogate: To cancel, nullify or repeal. As far as I know the bankruptcy laws still exist. As far as I remember the auto companies were willing partners in the bailouts. If I am not mistaken Chrysler and General Motors are now publicly traded companies and are being run by executives of those companies and not union members.

• First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional and Refuse to Enforce It
First president? Not hardly.
In 1946 Truman's administration refused to defend a law withholding salaries from government officials said to be radicals and told the Supreme Court they believed it to be Unconstitutional.
In 1986 the Reagan administration refused to defend an IRS policy denying tax exemptions to universities practicing racial segregation for religious reasons.
In 1989 the Bush administration refused to defend federal affirmative action preferences in the Metro Broadcasting case.
In 1996 the Clinton administration refused to defend the Constitutionality of a law requiring the military to discharge members who had HIV.
Then there is the matter of George W. Bush and his signing statements. Bush frequently used signing statements to alter the meaning of legislation or to instruct government agencies which facets of a law to enforce and which to ignore.

First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at Polling Places
It is an amazing and preposterous stretch to take the actions of two individuals at a single polling place and turn it into a national presidential policy.

• First President to Withdraw an Existing Coal Permit That Had Been Properly Issued Years Ago
I don't know the circumstances here since the doofus who wrote this provides no references. Just because a permit was properly issued years ago does not mean that the requirements are not being violated now.

[Tom]

Baghdad Bob lives.

[ArlJim78]

you can add another first to the list. Obama overrules the top lawyers in the justice deparment regarding the War Powers act. Of course this would be a gigantic scandal under a Republican, but for dear leader he of course is above it all with a free pass.



WASHINGTON — President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per) rejected the views of top lawyers at the Pentagon and the Justice Department when he decided that he had the legal authority to continue American military participation in the air war in Libya (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/libya/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) without Congressional authorization, according to officials familiar with internal administration deliberations.

Presidents have the legal authority to override the legal conclusions of the Office of Legal Counsel and to act in a manner that is contrary to its advice, but it is extraordinarily rare for that to happen. Under normal circumstances, the office’s interpretation of the law is legally binding on the executive branch


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/world/africa/18powers.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all

[RaceBookJoe]

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/575089/201106101902/Democrats-Tax-And-Spend-Insanity.aspx#comments

[mostpost]

you can add another first to the list. Obama overrules the top lawyers in the justice deparment regarding the War Powers act. Of course this would be a gigantic scandal under a Republican, but for dear leader he of course is above it all with a free pass.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/world/africa/18powers.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all
From your own link:
Presidents have the legal authority to override the legal conclusions of the Office of Legal Counsel and to act in a manner that is contrary to its advice, but it is extraordinarily rare for that to happen.
Also note that the White House legal counsel and the State Department general counsel advised the opposite.

If something is considered extraordinarily rare it means it did happen before in the past. So that can't be an Obama first. :rolleyes:

[ArlJim78]

From your own link:

Also note that the White House legal counsel and the State Department general counsel advised the opposite.

If something is considered extraordinarily rare it means it did happen before in the past. So that can't be an Obama first. :rolleyes:
but yet it is a first for the war powers act.:rolleyes:

don't you get sick of bending over backwards to make one far fetched defense after another of this war mongering president?

face it: Obama lied, people died.

[mostpost]

but yet it is a first for the war powers act.:rolleyes:
It's the same action under new circumstances. You are really getting desperate.


don't you get sick of bending over backwards to make one far fetched defense after another of this war mongering president?
Don't you get sick of bending over backwards to make one far fetched criticism after another.

face it: Obama lied, people died.
The correct quote is "Bush lied, people died." And a helluva lot more people than died because of Obama's drone attacks.

[JustRalph]

The correct quote is "Bush lied, people died." And a helluva lot more people than died because of Obama's drone attacks.

are you keeping a running total? Btw, this one just happen in a war that doesn't exist.......you know, no hostilities. Unless you are one of the dead guys

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43454221/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/


This guy has killed more people than any other Nobel Peace Prize Winner in history :bang:

[ArlJim78]

there is a reason for the war powers act, and that reason is embodied in someone like Obama, an inexperienced, reckless, secretive president who feels he doesn't answer to congress or the constitution.

[bigmack]

6/20: Left-wing MoveOn.org isn’t happy with President Barack Obama. In a fundraising e-mail sent to supporters on Monday, the group hinted that Obama has abandoned it in political fights in Washington and across the country.

“It’s pretty clear by now that we can’t wait for Barack Obama, or the Democrats, to save us,” MoveOn.org said in the e-mail to supporters. “But the one thing that might turn things around is an honest-to-God mass movement—something on the scale of the civil rights movement or the antiwar movement

[JustRalph]

there is a reason for the war powers act, and that reason is embodied in someone like Obama, an inexperienced, reckless, secretive president who feels he doesn't answer to congress or the constitution.

Tricky Obammy!

[Tom]

are you keeping a running total? Btw, this one just happen in a war that doesn't exist.......you know, no hostilities. Unless you are one of the dead guys

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43454221/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/


This guy has killed more people than any other Nobel Peace Prize Winner in history :bang:

Funny how we used to hear the dead totals every single day, sometime more than once a day.

But when is the last time any alleged news outfit mentioned it?

Funny how the lives of our troops are now so unimportant to the left hypocrites. mostie dares bring that topic up.....shameful. Really low rent of him. He uses our losses for a political argument. :ThmbDown:

[newtothegame]

So sayeth the minister Farakhan.....

VIDEO: Minister Farrakhan: 'That's a Murderer in the White House'



By: Nsenga Burton (/users/nsengaburton) | Posted: June 15, 2011
A YouTube video of Minister Louis Farrakhan taking President Obama to task over the war in Afghanistan and the bombing of Libya is making its way around the Web. In the video, Farrakhan admonishes the president for turning into someone else. Farrakhan says, "We voted for our brother Barack, a beautiful human being with a sweet heart, and now he's an assassin. They turned him into them."

He also raises the issue of killing Saddam Hussein over weapons of mass destruction and knowingly sending young men to fight a war based on lies. "You talk about a man killing his own people. When you lie to the American people saying that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. When you lie and then take innocent young men who come to serve their country, and send them to die in Iraq and Afghanistan, over lies, that's a murderer in the White House." Ouch.

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/video-minister-farrakhanthats-murderer-white-house

[newtothegame]

President Obama no-show miffs Hispanics

Leaders of a national Hispanic organization are criticizing President Barack Obama for skipping their annual conference for the third consecutive year after he promised as a candidate (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11418.html) in 2008 that he would return as president.

Some members of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials also are questioning Obama’s commitment to immigration reform, noting that deportations have increased under his watch — even as the administration intensifies its outreach for Hispanic votes. NALEO, which includes more than 6,000 Latino leaders who represent major blocs of voters in key electoral states, opens its annual conference Thursday in San Antonio.



The rift is noteworthy — and even a little puzzling — because of the administration’s aggressive push (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56787.html) for Hispanic support ahead of 2012. Obama’s campaign team is trying to raise historically low rates of Hispanic registration and voter turnout in at least a half-dozen swing states (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56857.html), and one Obama adviser involved in his reelection effort recently told POLITICO, “Hispanics could very well decide this election.”




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57313.html#ixzz1Ps5vC630


I really don't understand what they are upset about.....it's not like Obama hasn't broken other campaign promises......

Get in line with your anger!!! :lol:

[ElKabong]

President Obama no-show miffs Hispanics

Leaders of a national Hispanic organization are criticizing President Barack Obama for skipping their annual conference for the third consecutive year after he promised as a candidate (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11418.html) in 2008 that he would return as president.

Some members of the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials also are questioning Obama’s commitment to immigration reform, noting that deportations have increased under his watch — even as the administration intensifies its outreach for Hispanic votes. NALEO, which includes more than 6,000 Latino leaders who represent major blocs of voters in key electoral states, opens its annual conference Thursday in San Antonio.



The rift is noteworthy — and even a little puzzling — because of the administration’s aggressive push (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56787.html) for Hispanic support ahead of 2012. Obama’s campaign team is trying to raise historically low rates of Hispanic registration and voter turnout in at least a half-dozen swing states (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56857.html), and one Obama adviser involved in his reelection effort recently told POLITICO, “Hispanics could very well decide this election.”




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57313.html#ixzz1Ps5vC630


I really don't understand what they are upset about.....it's not like Obama hasn't broken other campaign promises......

Get in line with your anger!!! :lol:





I guess that Latinos don't (a) play golf much, and (b) fill his pockets. You can consider the Latino screwed by the Obama administration
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[bigmack]

6/20: Minister Farrakhan: 'That's a Murderer in the White House'

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/video-minister-farrakhanthats-murderer-white-house

http://caltweet.com/pics/26615.jpg

[toetoe]

“It’s pretty clear by now that we can’t wait for Barack Obama, or the Democrats, to save us,”



So the saintly folk at C'mon-Bowels-Get-A-Move-On-Dot-Scam think His Nibs might be able to save them ? Nobody can save them. :D



Mack,

Any footage available of calypso singer "The Charmer," alias Louis Farrakhan, the lovemonger ?

[toetoe]

I just found footage of Future Rev playing the violin for Ted Mack at age 15 or 16. It got me thinking --- this guy was really talented, and I wonder what he might accomplish if the Nation of Islam never got to him. Muhammad Ali was a punk who could box --- so what ? No great loss to mankind. This guy Walcott, though, had a shot at greatness.

Don't tell him, but this white Catholic will say a prayer for him. :(

[bigmack]

6/21: (This is so bitchin') It seems President Obama is interested in connecting with voters via Twitter.

The Obama campaign announced Friday that Mr. Obama will begin writing his own tweets, which he will sign with his initials.

Mr. Obama’s campaign said in a posting on its website Friday that the President will tweet regularly from the popular social media service, singing his personal tweets “-BO.” :D

6/20: (BO speaking) "As a consequence of that swift, decisive, and sometimes difficult period, we were able to take an economy that was shrinking by about 6 percent and create an economy that is now growing, and has grown steadily now over many consecutive quarters. Over the last 15 months we’ve created over 2.1 million private sector jobs." (Laughter.)

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/gallopplunge.png

[Tom]

6/21: (This is so bitchin') It seems President Obama is interested in connecting with voters via Twitter.


Worked out well for Wiener.

[bigmack]

6/24: BO campaign announces campaign gear. Have you bought your dinner with Barack raffle ticket yet?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/birth-1.png

[DJofSD]

The shirt should add: "Would you like french fries with that order, sir?"

[Sugar Ron]

Fine work by BO in that 6/20 tweet

Hell, not even Jesus Christ himself could've quickly turned around that steaming pile of economic sh*t that he inherited from the GOP.

Countdown to VICTORY!!! :cool:

[bigmack]

Fine work by BO in that 6/20 tweet

Hell, not even Jesus Christ himself could've quickly turned around that steaming pile of economic sh*t that he inherited from the GOP.

Countdown to VICTORY!!! :cool:
That would be one of 85 of your posts that you haven't used "con."

Speaking of which, talk about a NeoCon. BO has Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya & Yemen. And he's blowing the life out of civilians with drones in Pakistan & Libya.

To think, he's your man. :lol:

[Sugar Ron]

BO's been managing that war on terror like a PRO.

Where do the flopping con hopefuls stand on all those issues today, Big Mac?

Never mind ... they'll probably change their positions again by noon.


By the way, hope someone has told Bush-Cheney that they can stop searching for bin laden now ... LMAO.

[bigmack]

6/23: He will kick off the fundraising tonight with a $1,250-a-pop Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Leadership Gala at the Sheraton in Midtown.

The next stop will be the posh Upper East Side restaurant Daniel, where the president will headline a $35,800-a-head dinner. Spokespersons for his campaign expect that the flesh-pressing event will generate $2.5 million.

After that, he is headed to Broadway, not to be seen—at least on stage—but to see Whoopi Goldberg host a special presentation of the musical Sister Act. http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/retardeddamsel/vomit-smiley-020.gif

Grid lock galore.

[newtothegame]

BO's been managing that war on terror like a PRO.

Where do the flopping con hopefuls stand on all those issues today, Big Mac?

Never mind ... they'll probably change their positions again by noon.


By the way, hope someone has told Bush-Cheney that they can stop searching for bin laden now ... LMAO.

Ever notice there Ron that this is the ONLY thing BO has to hang his hat on?
Notice how BO has ALREADY lost the bump in oll numbers from this??
Notice the economic world is falling on its face as we speak? Gee, that election is not looking so bright for BO...unless you're willing to swim with fish to find Bin Ladin's body :lol: . That might be worth a point or two in the 2012 election...
Just keep NOT worrying about the economy as BO is also not worrying....lol

[FantasticDan]

^What would you rather see: the economy improve steadily in next 18 months and Obama win, or the economy deteriorate further and Obama lose?

I mean, I already know the answer, but I'd like to see it in your own words anyways..

[bigmack]

^What would you rather see: the economy improve steadily in next 18 months and Obama win, or the economy deteriorate further and Obama lose?
Name anything this buffoon is doing to help the economy improve?

[newtothegame]

^What would you rather see: the economy improve steadily in next 18 months and Obama win, or the economy deteriorate further and Obama lose?

I mean, I already know the answer, but I'd like to see it in your own words anyways..

What kind of stupid question is that??
But, since you somehow take comfort in my words and need them...how's this for you....
I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE ECONOMY IMPROVE........

I would like to see unemplyment stay below 8%...ohh wait.......

I would like to see a bill BEFORE it's passed......Ohhhh wait.......

I would like to see a president who takes the lives of our soldiers giving their all, for more then a political ride.........

I would like to see transparency in our government....ohhh wait........

I would like to see less lobbyist and .....ohhh wait.........

I would like to see a government who works with states to implement and uphold the law versus suing them for trying to enforce it themselves.....ohhh wait.....

Shall I continue?????

I would like to see a president who takes responsibility for his actions versus blaming an administration OVER TWO YEARS REMOVED.

I would like to see a president who stands by what he promised (even if I disagree) to get elected. At least there wouldnt be so many people standing around scratching their heads go WTF happened???

Hope this answers some of your questions...!

[FantasticDan]

Time will tell, won't it?

[newtothegame]

Time will tell, won't it?
Your answers above and yes...time will AND HAS shown......

[bigmack]

Time will tell, won't it?
BO has so many forks stuck in him at this point the only thing time will tell is who was worse; himself or Jim Carter.

[Greyfox]

As terrible as Obama is, the Repubs will have to bring forth a credible alternative. Does anyone see one yet??

[fast4522]

Plugs Biden got it stuck to him today, the United States Speaker of the House of Representatives told them tax hikes are off the table and only cuts will be part of the deal. Great alternative don't you think?

[Tom]

As terrible as Obama is, the Repubs will have to bring forth a credible alternative. Does anyone see one yet??

Anyone alive?

[benzer]

As terrible as Obama is, the Repubs will have to bring forth a credible alternative. Does anyone see one yet??
There are quite a few credible alternatives in the mix right now, there may still be others that will get in.

The hope is that not enough voters are willing to sacrifice this nation and their children and grandchildren future on the current administrations socialist agenda.

Do we want four more years of this? Costs of food and fuel to high, home values down, the dollar being devalued, wages lagging and high unemployment? More government intervention in our lives?

So yes, there are quite a few credible alternatives.

[Greyfox]

So yes, there are quite a few credible alternatives.

I sound like an owl....."Who?"

[bigmack]

As terrible as Obama is, the Repubs will have to bring forth a credible alternative. Does anyone see one yet??
You mean in comparison to BO you don't see a 'credible' candidate among the many offerings and ask others to find one having more 'credibility' than BO?

Tom answered your question perfectly.

[mostpost]

Plugs Biden got it stuck to him today, the United States Speaker of the House of Representatives told them tax hikes are off the table and only cuts will be part of the deal. Great alternative don't you think?
Boehner's a real genius. We have the largest National debt in our history and he wants to reduce revenue. Must be a conservative.

[benzer]

I sound like an owl....."Who?"
I'm not going to tout anyone this early. I will say this though, the person nominated by the republican party will be a better choice than the current president, whose policies are taking our nation in the wrong direction. IMO, as explained in my earlier post.

[Greyfox]

You mean in comparison to BO you don't see a 'credible' candidate among the many offerings and ask others to find one having more 'credibility' than BO?

Tom answered your question perfectly.

I think that Obama is the shits. Having said that there are a lot of people who will vote for this man just as children followed the Pied Piper.
This guy is very internet wise and may be leagues ahead of any other challengers in this day of social electronic media.
Repubs are kidding themselves if they think that they can trot out someone who doesn't have serious leadership abilties that have already been demonstrated.
To date, I don't see Romney, Bachman, Paul.....etc. etc. as overcoming the mesmerism that Obama has in place.
He will be tough to dethrone. Mark my words.

[benzer]

Boehner's a real genius. We have the largest National debt in our history and he wants to reduce revenue. Must be a conservative.
The largest national debt in our history under the watchful eyes of a democrat control of the house, the senate and the white house.

[bigmack]

To date, I don't see Romney, Bachman, Paul.....etc. etc. as overcoming the mesmerism that Obama has in place.
He will be tough to dethrone. Mark my words.
As I've stated previously, this will be one of the biggest blowouts since RR/W.Moondale.

Let's take a gander at some recent numbers.

Of those who voted for him in '08 that have now said they won't vote for him again:
Independents: Down 24%
Whites: Down 25%
College Students: Down 23%

With all due respect to "marking your words", I'd go ahead and start paying attention to the numbers and some of the events in this thread.

Bleak, is an understated outcome for this incumbent.

[Greyfox]

I hope I'm wrong. After all I once predicted that Sonny Liston would make Cassius Clay (Ali) the First Man on the Moon.
(I don't trust polls. This Prez hasn't cranked up the "rhetoric" yet.)

[benzer]

I hope I'm wrong. After all I once predicted that Sonny Liston would make Cassius Clay (Ali) the First Man on the Moon.
(I don't trust polls. This Prez hasn't cranked up the "rhetoric" yet.)
I agree, the rhetoric has only just begun, this won't be easy with the media on his side, but it can be done. Research facts and post them wherever you can.

[newtothegame]

Boehner's a real genius. We have the largest National debt in our history and he wants to reduce revenue. Must be a conservative.

And with the largest national debt in our history (surprised you mentioned that), Reid pelosi and gang want to borrow more so they can spend more......
Must be a liberal bunch !

[FantasticDan]

As I've stated previously, this will be one of the biggest blowouts since RR/W.Moondale.So :lol: ridiculous. Nobody is suggesting right now that Obama is unbeatable, but it's even more absurd to believe he has no chance of winning. Hello, real world calling..

Who is the most likely Repub candidate? Romney. And Obama is polling 7 points better than him. Reuters has him 13 points higher.

Real world.

[bigmack]

So :lol: ridiculous. Nobody is suggesting right now that Obama is unbeatable, but it's even more absurd to believe he has no chance of winning. Hello, real world calling..
Who is the most likely Repub candidate? Romney. And Obama is polling 7 points better than him. Reuters has him 13 points higher.
Real world.
Newsbreak: Don't worry about the R-Nom. On this, I feel a lock.

A trounce will occur Nov'12.

Now back to Elita with the weather - Elita.

http://smugglingtwins.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/elita-loresca-red-dress-sexy-weather.jpg

[mostpost]

Newsbreak: Don't worry about the R-Nom. On this, I feel a lock.

A trounce will occur Nov'12.

Now back to Elita with the weather - Elita.

http://smugglingtwins.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/elita-loresca-red-dress-sexy-weather.jpg
What does Elita have to do with this thread? Moderators delete.....No-wait I see it now. Mack you're a genius. :ThmbUp:

[bigmack]

What does Elita have to do with this thread? Moderators delete.....No-wait I see it now. Mack you're a genius. :ThmbUp:
Lighten-up, Francis.

If you haven't, do see Payback.

LL had gone rough.
(Best line: Let her work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rShmnUnMLk

[PaceAdvantage]

(I don't trust polls. This Prez hasn't cranked up the "rhetoric" yet.)Yeah, but what can he actually say? "I killed bin Laden...."

Big whoop...

He's got nuttin' after that. And to really demonstrate this point, go back and read all the posts from the left-leaners extolling Obama's accomplishments whenever one of the righties criticizes the prez...what's that? There is a complete dearth of such posts? Oh....

[benzer]

So :lol: ridiculous. Nobody is suggesting right now that Obama is unbeatable, but it's even more absurd to believe he has no chance of winning. Hello, real world calling..

Who is the most likely Repub candidate? Romney. And Obama is polling 7 points better than him. Reuters has him 13 points higher.

Real world.
Again the polling today means nothing. As of now there is not one person against another for the presidency. In other words if Obama is polling 7 points or 10 points higher does not matter, the results are skewed because the other pool at the current time has multiple offerings.

This will not be a field of 10. Real world time will come into better focus after a nominee is put forth.

When there is a Republican nominee I think the polling numbers are going to change and probably not in Obamas favor.

[Greyfox]

Yeah, but what can he actually say? "I killed bin Laden...."

Big whoop...

He's got nuttin' after that. And to really demonstrate this point, go back and read all the posts from the left-leaners extolling Obama's accomplishments whenever one of the righties criticizes the prez...what's that? There is a complete dearth of such posts? Oh....

He'll say that he inherited an economic mess and go from there..
(Unfortunately, whoever is the next Prez will be facing a bigger mess of catastrophic proportions.)

[mostpost]

The largest national debt in our history under the watchful eyes of a democrat control of the house, the senate and the white house.
You act as if the debt just popped into existence in January of 2009. You also don't understand how the government works. The President is more powerful than both house of Congress combined. If the President's party is in control of even one House of Congress it is a powerful force.

What if we look at who controlled the House, the Senate and the Presidency and compare it with the percentage increase in the National debt. Beginning with Reagan.

During the 97th, 98th, and 99th Congress Reagan was President and Republicans controlled the Senate. Republicans controlled two of the three elected branches of Government. National Debt increased 28.7% 38.9% and 34.8% in each Congress.

In the next three Congresses the Democrats took control of the Senate and had the two to one advantage. National Debt increases were 21.2%, 25.7% and 24.1% Better but not good. Remember, the President has the most influence on the budget.

During the 103rd Congress we had one of only two times in the period when Democrats controlled all three branches. The debt increased 14.9%

During the 104th, 105th and 106th Congresses under Clinton,Democrats controlled the Presidency while Republicans controlled the Legislative branch.
Clinton cut spending and raised taxes. Republicans wanted to lower taxes and cut spending. Result: the lowest Debt increases in the era. 10.8%, 5.5% and 0.8%

Then Republicans took control of the entire government. Debt increase began to climb again. 13.1%, 18.5% and 14.3%

Then the Second Great Depression happened which skews everything.

% increase during the last two Bush years was 23.3% and during the first two Obama years it was 31.1%

[benzer]

He'll say that he inherited an economic mess and go from there..
(Unfortunately, whoever is the next Prez will be facing a bigger mess of catastrophic proportions.)
That is what he has been saying. His most recent speech he sounded like he had just got into office, though he has been there over two years.

[PaceAdvantage]

He'll say that he inherited an economic mess and go from there..I don't even think he's dumb enough to try that tactic again. What better way to get people to roll their eyes than to try and pass the buck?

Plus, he didn't do much except EXTEND and ENDORSE many of the policies from the one he "inherited" the mess from to begin with...

This guy should be toast at the hands of even the mildest of competency.

[bigmack]

He'll say that he inherited an economic mess and go from there..
(Unfortunately, whoever is the next Prez will be facing a bigger mess of catastrophic proportions.)
At the Daniel gathering tonight in NY, a majority of the donors from '08 were unable to attend as they were "out of town."

For better or worse, this guy, with his "Fat Cat" routine and anti-Biz take, pissed-off no shortage of marketplace.

At this point I envision an event unlike the freeing of the hostages in '80.

All markets exponentially rise in unison upon election results.

(Somebody strum a harp)

[NJ Stinks]

Boehner's a real genius. We have the largest National debt in our history and he wants to reduce revenue. Must be a conservative.

Booehner and his buddies will do anything and everything they can to get us out of this recession as long it does not cost them even one more thin dime.

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.

[benzer]

You act as if the debt just popped into existence in January of 2009. You also don't understand how the government works. The President is more powerful than both house of Congress combined. If the President's party is in control of even one House of Congress it is a powerful force.

What if we look at who controlled the House, the Senate and the Presidency and compare it with the percentage increase in the National debt. Beginning with Reagan.

During the 97th, 98th, and 99th Congress Reagan was President and Republicans controlled the Senate. Republicans controlled two of the three elected branches of Government. National Debt increased 28.7% 38.9% and 34.8% in each Congress.

In the next three Congresses the Democrats took control of the Senate and had the two to one advantage. National Debt increases were 21.2%, 25.7% and 24.1% Better but not good. Remember, the President has the most influence on the budget.

During the 103rd Congress we had one of only two times in the period when Democrats controlled all three branches. The debt increased 14.9%

During the 104th, 105th and 106th Congresses under Clinton,Democrats controlled the Presidency while Republicans controlled the Legislative branch.
Clinton cut spending and raised taxes. Republicans wanted to lower taxes and cut spending. Result: the lowest Debt increases in the era. 10.8%, 5.5% and 0.8%

Then Republicans took control of the entire government. Debt increase began to climb again. 13.1%, 18.5% and 14.3%

Then the Second Great Depression happened which skews everything.

% increase during the last two Bush years was 23.3% and during the first two Obama years it was 31.1%
Nice but no cigar. The last two years of the Bush administration Democrats controlled the legislative branch of the government, both the house and the senate.

Just so happens things declined during that time and have continued to do so. Obama enjoyed a total democrat control of Washington his first two years and still blames Bush?

To be fair to Bush and debt let us not forget 911 and hurricane Katrina which required spending.

If your figures are correct then that is a considerable increase in spending under Obama. % increase during the last two Bush years was 23.3% and during the first two Obama years it was 31.1%

[PaceAdvantage]

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.The wars...the wars...the wars...

The wars had jack shite to do with our current economic situation. They were a proverbial drop in the bucket in terms of monetary cost.

By the way, how has Obama been paying for "the wars" he refuses to end? (wars are so bad and costly, he even started up a new one in Libya...and as far as I can tell, none of the Iraq-bashers has come back at me with an answer as to why Libya is necessary)

[benzer]

Booehner and his buddies will do anything and everything they can to get us out of this recession as long it does not cost them even one more thin dime.

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.
So we are attacked and respond with force, but we started the wars?

You are free to donate your income for the next 10 years.

[ElKabong]

What, you guys didn't hear that Obama pulled all of our troops from Irag "ASAP" and closed down Guantanamo Bay? Those actions alone save the budget Billions....

[ElKabong]

You act as if the debt just popped into existence in January of 2009. You also don't understand how the government works.

You tell 'em mosty! He don't know nuthin about no government innerworkins like you do! Rain down some of that wisdom on his ass. :rolleyes:

Btw, that first sentence of yours looks a lot like "we inherited this mess". That got old after a year. GWB could have said teh same thing about the 2006 dem controlled congress. I'm sure glad he refrained from that shit. Makes the person saying such a thing look like an incompetent fool that has one trick in his bag - deflect the blame.

You know of a preznit that does that??

[NJ Stinks]

You guys can rationalize all you want. The fact is:

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.

Obama and the Dems wanted to raise taxes last December. Republicans stood firm - they ain't paying nothing extra no matter what! What a patriotic bunch those Republicans are! Country first unless it costs something, of course.

Hey, Republicans should make that their motto at their next national convention. The appeal should be universal there. :rolleyes:

[newtothegame]

You guys can rationalize all you want. The fact is:

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.

Obama and the Dems wanted to raise taxes last December. Republicans stood firm - they ain't paying nothing extra no matter what! What a patriotic bunch those Republicans are! Country first unless it costs something, of course.

Hey, Republicans should make that their motto at their next national convention. The appeal should be universal there. :rolleyes:

yeah, its the repugs who are unpatriotic.....ohhh wait.....here is this tid bit...

‘Not My Debt’: College Students Refuse Pledge to Pay Their Share of National Debt

Last week, we brought you video from a guy who caught liberal college students eager to redistribute wealth but not grades (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/liberal-college-students-eager-to-redistribute-wealth-are-less-eager-to-redistribute-hard-earned-grades/). Now, that same guy (Oliver Darcy) is back with another experiment: If college students are opposed to the Republican plan to cut spending to reduce the national debt, might they be willing to reduce the deficit by paying their share of the national debt?

Would those college students sign a pledge vowing to pay their approximate $47,000 share? The answer?

Well, there was this: “I don’t contribute to the national debt.”

This: “I don’t have any debt.”

And this: “It’s not my debt.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/college-students-refuse-to-sign-pledge-to-pay-their-share-of-national-debt/

Yeah, it's the repugs....TRY AGAIN!

[newtothegame]

Darcy then asked those students what they believe should be done to reduce the debt if they are unwilling to pay their fair share. The responses included, “Abolish the government,” “Tax the wealthy and corporations,” and “F*** the military.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/7561-liberal-hypocrisy-rampant-on-college-campuses

Yep.....you're right NJ...someone seems unpatriotic...but it's not the repugs....:lol:

[bigmack]

Obama and the Dems wanted to raise taxes last December. Republicans stood firm - they ain't paying nothing extra no matter what! What a patriotic bunch those Republicans are! Country first unless it costs something, of course.
Good Gawd. When are you gonna drop this tired routine?

You know, & I know & the American people know that taxing the rich 100% - AND Corporations 100% will do little to fix our pickle.

Either you're EXTREMELY dense to NOT get that by now or you're a hopeless ignoid.

Husband: (NJSmelly): Uh. Looks like we're in debt. You're gonna have to work more hours for us to pay our bills.
NJStinks Wife: How 'bout spending less?
Husband: (NJSmelly): No can do. Bring more into the house or else.

[NJ Stinks]

Yep.....you're right NJ...someone seems unpatriotic...but it's not the repugs....:lol:

College students? You are quoting college students? :lol:

Newt, what I said is as true as the day is long. Boehner and his ilk make me sick with this no new taxes BS. Can't say it any plainer than that.

Mack, your post gets no reply because it deserves none.

[bigmack]

Mack, your post gets no reply because it deserves none.
It just doesn't matter.

Only fools can't see we're on a brink.

Someone has GOT to take a swing at righting this ship.

We got a deer in headlights goin' on.

Worse than that....We got a deer in headlights goin' in campaign mode.

[newtothegame]

:sleeping: College students? You are quoting college students? :lol:

Newt, what I said is as true as the day is long. Boehner and his ilk make me sick with this no new taxes BS. Can't say it any plainer than that.

Mack, your post gets no reply because it deserves none.

I understand it makes you sick......Anytime there is a possibility of less government, you and the libs get sick. It is against your nanny state nature.
At the same time you want to raise taxes, you want to allow the US to borrow more by raising the debt ceiling too huh?
Where will that get us? MORE DEBT.....then where are you gonna get more revenue to pay for it? It's a never ending circle.....
Collect more...spend more...borrow more.......
The cycle has to stop...and I will take the consequences as a country but they have to stop NOW!

[newtothegame]

WOW NJ....guess what I just found.....

Since you are using taxes as the method to determine patriotism, lets see who are larger in number as to cheating....
And you're right...i shouldnt of used college students WORDS.....

Take a Guess: Are America’s Tax Cheating Politicians Mostly Dems or Republicans?

Trying to determine if Republicans or Democrats cheat more on their taxes, The Beast used the methodology described below to find that left-leaning politicians are guiltier of tax fraud than those on the more conservative side of the political spectrum:

Turns out Republicans have the bigger names—Jack Abramoff, Randy “Duke” Cunningham—but Democrats have the most tax scandals by a margin of 18 to 7.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/take-a-guess-are-americas-tax-cheating-politicians-mostly-dems-or-republicans/

By more then 2-1, dems are "unpatriotic"......at least based on paying their taxes......:bang:

[benzer]

You guys can rationalize all you want. The fact is:

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.

Obama and the Dems wanted to raise taxes last December. Republicans stood firm - they ain't paying nothing extra no matter what! What a patriotic bunch those Republicans are! Country first unless it costs something, of course.

Hey, Republicans should make that their motto at their next national convention. The appeal should be universal there. :rolleyes:
When don't the dems want to raise taxes? The problem is they want to raise taxes on people that help to create jobs. More people working and not depending on the government to survive will save money and put more revenue into the government coffers.

And again anyone that wants to is free to send there donations to the government.

Before we talk about tax increases how about we account for and control spending of the money already collected.

Wait a second, that is what I have to do in my house. Maybe I should adopt your way of thinking after all. Next month if I'm a bit strapped for cash because I pissed away my money on something I did not need, I'll just come to your house and get your extra.

(Disclaimer: I won't be doing that just trying to make a point, disclaimers are needed when dealing with liberals.)

That is the philosophy you are trying to get us to agree to isn't it?

[DJofSD]

Name anything this buffoon is doing to help the economy improve?
Talk by some of those which report on the economy and investing is that the coordinated release of the oil from the reserves is an ploy by BO to boost a sagging economy and to set the stage for an better shot at re-election. It all sounds political. I guess it must be an emergency to release those 2 million barrels of oil each day.

[Tom]

Talk by some of those which report on the economy and investing is that the coordinated release of the oil from the reserves is an ploy by BO to boost a sagging economy and to set the stage for an better shot at re-election. It all sounds political. I guess it must be an emergency to release those 2 million barrels of oil each day.

Especially when the price has been dropping.
But, seeing how this is our STRATEGIC supply, it can be rationed that he did it to help support the new campaign in the Middle East, Operation Re-election.

[mostpost]

Nice but no cigar. The last two years of the Bush administration Democrats controlled the legislative branch of the government, both the house and the senate.
I don't like cigars anyway. What is it you don't understand about this all started long ago? The Democrats in Congress in 99 and 2000 did not stop enforcing regulations on Wall Street. The anti-regulation fever started with Reagan, continued through GHWB and was even aquiessed to by Clinton. Under GWB it reached a whole new level.
Expecting no response, I challenge you to show me any actions by the 110th Congress which led to the Great Recession. When you have done that, you can explain why President Bush did not veto those actions.

Just so happens things declined during that time and have continued to do so. Obama enjoyed a total democrat control of Washington his first two years and still blames Bush?

To be fair to Bush and debt let us not forget 911 and hurricane Katrina which required spending.
To be fair to the truth, Hurricane Katrina cost about $100B (estimates vary.)
The National Debt increased $5T under Bush. So Katrina was responsible for 2% of the increase.

If your figures are correct then that is a considerable increase in spending under Obama. % increase during the last two Bush years was 23.3% and during the first two Obama years it was 31.1%
Let's look at the major, unique costs under Obama. Figures are approximate.
Auto industry Bailout $130B
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act $790B
Lost revenue due to the Recession $370B
Total due to factors that can be tied directly to the Recession $1.290T
I did not include TARP, part of which was spent on Obama's watch.
I all so did not include the Patient Affordability Act which will cost $940B.
But that is spread over ten years.
The point is at least a half and maybe as much as two thirds of Obama's deficit was caused by the Recession. And the Recession can be laid at the feet of the Republicans and their policies.

[mostpost]

So we are attacked and respond with force, but we started the wars?

You are free to donate your income for the next 10 years.
We were attacked by Al Qaeda headed by Osama Bin Laden and based in Afghanistan. We rightfully responded in force and had AL Qaeda (and the Taliban) on the run. We had bin Laden trapped at Bora Bora (Tora Bora???) and we, meaning George W Bush, let him escape. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. George W. Bush knew he had nothing to do with 9/11.

George W. Bush lied and took us into an unnecessary war. We could have accomplished our mission and been out of Afghanistan in under a year, but George W. Bush wanted to be a "War President."

[newtothegame]

We were attacked by Al Qaeda headed by Osama Bin Laden and based in Afghanistan. We rightfully responded in force and had AL Qaeda (and the Taliban) on the run. We had bin Laden trapped at Bora Bora (Tora Bora???) and we, meaning George W Bush, let him escape. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. George W. Bush knew he had nothing to do with 9/11.

George W. Bush lied and took us into an unnecessary war. We could have accomplished our mission and been out of Afghanistan in under a year, but George W. Bush wanted to be a "War President."

And still NO word on Libya???
Pathetic!!

[bigmack]

We could have accomplished our mission and been out of Afghanistan in under a year, but George W. Bush wanted to be a "War President."
Under a year? Wow.

SuperMP strikes again.

JOvFhhMIFow
It's a gag. I am not a gun person, with the exception of skeet.

[DJofSD]

We need some theme music to go with that vid.

[mostpost]

yeah, its the repugs who are unpatriotic.....ohhh wait.....here is this tid bit...

‘Not My Debt’: College Students Refuse Pledge to Pay Their Share of National Debt

Last week, we brought you video from a guy who caught liberal college students eager to redistribute wealth but not grades (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/liberal-college-students-eager-to-redistribute-wealth-are-less-eager-to-redistribute-hard-earned-grades/). Now, that same guy (Oliver Darcy) is back with another experiment: If college students are opposed to the Republican plan to cut spending to reduce the national debt, might they be willing to reduce the deficit by paying their share of the national debt?

Would those college students sign a pledge vowing to pay their approximate $47,000 share? The answer?

Well, there was this: “I don’t contribute to the national debt.”

This: “I don’t have any debt.”

And this: “It’s not my debt.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/college-students-refuse-to-sign-pledge-to-pay-their-share-of-national-debt/

Yeah, it's the repugs....TRY AGAIN!



The Blaze is Glenn Beck's site, right? To start off the weaselly little creep doing the interviews lied. He said Republicans in Congress wanted to cut spending and they (The Blaze) were against that. The Blaze is all in favor of cutting spending and lowering taxes. So he starts off from a position of dishonesty.

Then he poses the question "Are you willing to pledge to pay your $47,000 share of the national debt" and thrusts a paper in front of the student. Anyone would be an idiot to sign that paper. These are college students with little or no current income, an uncertain future, student loans to pay off and who knows what other debts. And you are asking them to sign a paper that obligates them to another debt of $47,000. I assume you want them to pay it off in one lump sum.

Then he wants them to pay $47,000 regardless of their future income. For some of them that will be a years salary. For others it will be a couple of weeks.

The whole thing was a stunt which would only be taken seriously by a bunch of Republican syncophants.

[DJofSD]

Sure it was a stunt, Mosty.

Likely, this is the first time they've really had it presented to them. Do you think they've heard anything from their parents or teachers about the current fiscal situation?

[mostpost]

You know, & I know & the American people know that taxing the rich 100% - AND Corporations 100% will do little to fix our pickle.
So your solution is don't tax them at all. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Tom]

George W. Bush lied and took us into an unnecessary war. We could have accomplished our mission and been out of Afghanistan in under a year, but George W. Bush wanted to be a "War President."

Oh yeah?
We have been there for three with B Hussein, and we had a surge to boot.
Why were we not out long ago?

[mostpost]

Sure it was a stunt, Mosty.

Likely, this is the first time they've really had it presented to them. Do you think they've heard anything from their parents or teachers about the current fiscal situation?
It was likely the first time anyone came up to them, shoved a paper in their face and said "Your share of the National Debt is $47,000. Sign this paper promising to pay your share." IT WAS A STUNT.

[DJofSD]

OK. I get it. It's not the fact it was a stunt that has got your goat, it is the way it was done.

[PaceAdvantage]

but George W. Bush wanted to be a "War President."Says who? You?

[PaceAdvantage]

And the Recession can be laid at the feet of the Republicans and their policies.Wanna bet? There's plenty of proof out there that the incessant desire of the Dems to want to give everyone a home no matter what cost certainly got us to where we are today...

Remember this NY Times article from 2003?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/business/new-agency-proposed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html

I love the comments from Barney Frank...what a visionary he turned out to be, eh?''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.'' That right there was a major cause of the recession. And I don't think anyone would confuse Barney Frank for a Republican.

Oh, you'd like another quote from that article? Sure...Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said. Yup, just another Republican with his head in the sand...err...wait a minute...Melvin L. Watt, DEMOCRAT...alrighty then.... :lol:

[newtothegame]

The Blaze is Glenn Beck's site, right? To start off the weaselly little creep doing the interviews lied. He said Republicans in Congress wanted to cut spending and they (The Blaze) were against that. The Blaze is all in favor of cutting spending and lowering taxes. So he starts off from a position of dishonesty.

Then he poses the question "Are you willing to pledge to pay your $47,000 share of the national debt" and thrusts a paper in front of the student. Anyone would be an idiot to sign that paper. These are college students with little or no current income, an uncertain future, student loans to pay off and who knows what other debts. And you are asking them to sign a paper that obligates them to another debt of $47,000. I assume you want them to pay it off in one lump sum.

Then he wants them to pay $47,000 regardless of their future income. For some of them that will be a years salary. For others it will be a couple of weeks.

The whole thing was a stunt which would only be taken seriously by a bunch of Republican syncophants.

Was it also a stunt when I showed FACT that dems lead repugs more then two to one in tax cheats?
How about BO administration...WOW I am sure we can find some tax cheats there too.....
lol But you and NJ just keep telling yourselves its repugs and not libs....

[Greyfox]

This thread disappeared from Page 1 of this board, ....and I've been wrong before...,
I've held the opinion that this thread will receive many more "hits" than most on this forum to date.. That's why I've brought it back to the front page.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it, independent of any comments I've made before.
Eventhough I asked as an owl ...."who?"

And "Yes,...Obama..will blame the economic mess he walked into, in his bid to get elected, independent of PA's view that he wouldn't be dumb enough to do that.

[newtothegame]

This thread disappeared from Page 1 of this board.
In my opinion, ....and I've been wrong before...,
I've held the opinion that this thread will receive more "hits" than any to date, and in the future. That's why I've brought it back to the front page.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it, independent of any comments I've made before.
Eventhough I asked as an owl ...."who."

Considering the puzzle one you specifically are a big part of....that's pretty high expectations :)

[Greyfox]

Considering the puzzle one you specifically are a big part of....that's pretty high expectations :)

Huh? What puzzle am I specifically a big part of except those over at the
"Need Puzzle Help II" thread that I'm a participant of??? :confused:

[newtothegame]

[QUOTE=Greyfox]Huh? What puzzle am I specifically a big part of except those over at the
"Need Puzzle Help II" thread that I'm a participant of??? :confused:[/QUOTYeah ...those puzzle threads......longest running threads i've seen!!

[Greyfox]

This thread has the potential to be the best and longest.
Depending upon contributors. "Mark my words."

[bigmack]

The President's job approval, once as high as 76%, continues to trend downward. It stands now at 47.7% in the Real Clear Politics average of polls. Significantly, Obama is losing ground among Hispanics, a key group he carried overwhelmingly in 2008. And, among women, an AP poll found that only 48% believe he deserves reelection, a drop of nearly 10 points from AP's polling just last month.

More, Independent voters are abandoning Obama in droves. This vital voting bloc has long since lost faith in the President's chosen course heading, one that will transform our nation into a ghost ship of centralization.
A recent Bloomberg national poll clearly reflects this drop. Less than one-fourth of Independents, only 23%, said they would vote for Obama in 2012. The same poll found that just 30% of all voters were "certain" to support his reelection; 66% said the country was on the wrong track.

[DJofSD]

The President's job approval, once as high as 76%, continues to trend downward. It stands now at 47.7% in the Real Clear Politics average of polls. Significantly, Obama is losing ground among Hispanics, a key group he carried overwhelmingly in 2008. And, among women, an AP poll found that only 48% believe he deserves reelection, a drop of nearly 10 points from AP's polling just last month.

More, Independent voters are abandoning Obama in droves. This vital voting bloc has long since lost faith in the President's chosen course heading, one that will transform our nation into a ghost ship of centralization.
A recent Bloomberg national poll clearly reflects this drop. Less than one-fourth of Independents, only 23%, said they would vote for Obama in 2012. The same poll found that just 30% of all voters were "certain" to support his reelection; 66% said the country was on the wrong track.

After reading the above, I guess there is hope.

[bigmack]

:jump: :jump:

HUGE news about the raffle. They threw in Joey as well. This should plummet sales forthwith.

idN06LgizUw

[PaceAdvantage]

:jump: :jump:

HUGE news about the raffle. They threw in Joey as well. This should plummet sales forthwith.

idN06LgizUwThere is absolutely no way this joker wins a second term. It just can't happen. I mean, just look and listen to him in that video above. This is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA talking about some stupid "dinner with Barack & Joe" contest for campaign supporters?

To quote Seth Meyers: Really!?!

I was wrong about Zenyatta and the 2010 HOY. I was wrong about Obama winning in 2008. I can't be wrong three times in a row, can I? :lol:

[mostpost]

There is absolutely no way this joker wins a second term. It just can't happen. I mean, just look and listen to him in that video above. This is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA talking about some stupid "dinner with Barack & Joe" contest for campaign supporters?
Do you think that the only people who can have dinner with the President are the fat cats like the Koch brothers? This is an opportunity for the President to hear from the average person.

To quote Seth Meyers: Really!?!
You're quoting Seth Meyers? Are we supposed to be impressed? Really!?

I was wrong about Zenyatta and the 2010 HOY. I was wrong about Obama winning in 2008. I can't be wrong three times in a row, can I? :lol:
You went past three in a row a long time ago. :lol: :lol:

[bigmack]

There is absolutely no way this joker wins a second term. It just can't happen. I mean, just look and listen to him in that video above. This is the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA talking about some stupid "dinner with Barack & Joe" contest for campaign supporters?
Can you imagine the 'handwriting on the wall' that is seen by Team Barack? Speaking to half-filled halls and then the indignation of having to 'up' the raffle with Biden? From the rock star reception from a few years ago it must be quite a blow.

Does the video filmed in the White House promoting Obama's fundraising raffle violate campaign finance law?

...The White House spokesperson added that the raffle does not count as "the kind of fundraising prohibited under the law" and that the president did not make a direct appeal for donations. :rolleyes:

"Dinner with Barack and Joe" may be harmless way to raise some quick funds before the close of the second fundraising quarter this Thursday, but the fact that it is not "direct" solicitation is not much of a defense. After all, indirect solicitation is just the sort of thing that campaign finance laws are in place to avoid.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/28/dinner_barack_joe_campaign_finance_rules

[ArlJim78]

Does the video filmed in the White House promoting Obama's fundraising raffle violate campaign finance law?

Doesn't matter even if it is against the law. Laws and the constitution are for the little people, not dear leader who has a free pass.
His fundraisers broke the law last time and it didn't matter a whit to anyone because it was a "historic" election.

[Sugar Ron]

Whatever it takes to beat back cons and their FAILED policies... :cool:

[DJofSD]

Whatever it takes to beat back cons and their FAILED policies... :cool:
And what are those policies that have failed?

[Tom]

By "cons" does he mean the democrats who belong in jail?:D

[bigmack]

By "cons" does he mean the democrats who belong in jail?:D
As dumb as it sounds to actually respond to this nut, what is a con?

Check out this answer he dishes up.

[benzer]

Whatever it takes to beat back cons and their FAILED policies... :cool:
Your party has been in control of things for quite a while now, and the failed policies belong to who?

DNC party chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz:
We own the economy.

That is correct and the economy is not going very good.

So unless you think the economy of the nation is just great, the failed policies belong to who?

[bigmack]

Just to keep score; in his want for re-election, the President of the United States is having a raffle.

Anyone buy in? mosty - hcap - sugR - nj - serp - hank - fandan...

[johnhannibalsmith]

...Anyone buy in? ...

If it is one of those 50/50 raffles like at the minor league hockey games I'll be all over it...

[newtothegame]

First Obama offer $5 meals with himself.....
Tosses in Biden to help.......
and now.....

"To do so, Obama and his aides are leveraging every asset available to a sitting president — from access to top West Wing officials to a possible food tasting with the White House chef."

Obama pushing behind scenes to win over big-dollar donors

By Peter Wallsten, Published: June 27

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-pushing-behind-scenes-to-win-over-big-dollar-donors/2011/06/24/AGO5NGoH_print.html

[bigmack]

Current numbers show Blacks with unemployment numbers not seen since The Depression.

Mob robberies continue.

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[bigmack]

Generic bests BO.

6/29: A generic Republican candidate now holds a four-point lead over President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election matchup. It's the fifth week in a row that the GOP candidate has been ahead and the widest gap between the candidates to date.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds a generic Republican candidate earns support from 46% of Likely U.S. Voters, while the president picks up 42% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and nine percent (9%) are undecided.

6/29: BO derides Congress for not getting their jobs done as they're in recess. Meanwhile, of late he has attended 29 fundraisers and scores of golf outings.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/oppp.jpg

[toetoe]

Mack,

Less racism and more civility, please. :lol:

[newtothegame]

First Obama offer $5 meals with himself.....
Tosses in Biden to help.......
and now.....

"To do so, Obama and his aides are leveraging every asset available to a sitting president — from access to top West Wing officials to a possible food tasting with the White House chef."

Obama pushing behind scenes to win over big-dollar donors

By Peter Wallsten, Published: June 27

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-pushing-behind-scenes-to-win-over-big-dollar-donors/2011/06/24/AGO5NGoH_print.html



Obama Raffle Video Not Legal, Election Law Experts Say
Friday, July 01, 2011
(CNSNews.com) – A video of President Barack Obama filmed in the White House and included in a fundraising e-mail sent to supporters is not legal, two election law experts told CNSNews.com.

The video was included in an e-mail sent to supporters of President Obama promoting a fundraising drive that offered participants a chance to win an invitation to dinner with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-raffle-video-not-legal-election-la

[newtothegame]

You guys can rationalize all you want. The fact is:

If paying for the wars you started is not reason enough to raise taxes for ten straight years, whatever it is you are selling is a pile of horseshit.

Obama and the Dems wanted to raise taxes last December. Republicans stood firm - they ain't paying nothing extra no matter what! What a patriotic bunch those Republicans are! Country first unless it costs something, of course.

Hey, Republicans should make that their motto at their next national convention. The appeal should be universal there. :rolleyes:

You're right again NJ,,.......:liar:
Ok well maybe not except in your sarcasm.......
But guess which party was found to be more patriotic.......????
Wanna guess??? lol

Harvard Study Confirms: Republicans More Patriotic Than Democrats

The July 4th weekend is already here and for many Americans, the weekend dedicated to celebrating America's independence and freedom wouldn't be complete without a good hot dog (or two), hamburgers, bbq, loud music, ice cold beer, American flags and red, white and blue outfits. But this year, to get things off to a good start, USNews reports a new Harvard study (http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/30/harvard-july-4th-parades-are-right-wing) confirms Republicans are more patriotic than Democrats.

A new Harvard University study finds that July 4th parades energize only Republicans, turn kids into Republicans, and help to boost the GOP turnout of adults on Election Day.

"Fourth of July celebrations in the United States shape the nation's political landscape by forming beliefs and increasing participation, primarily in favor of the Republican Party," said the report from Harvard.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/07/01/harvard_study_confirms_republicans_more_patriotic_ than_democrats

[JustRalph]

I feel so much better about working all those 4th of July parades now :lol:

[Tom]

I suppose Harvard would prefer the good old goose-steeping hate parades of their heroes, at night, under fire light.

[dartman51]

Back when I was going to 4th of July parades, I didn't know the difference from Dem to Repub. I know my father was a big time Dem and my mother was a Repub. Maybe that's why I'm an Independent that leans Conservative. But then the Dem party today is NOTHING like the Dem party, when I was growing up in the 50's and 60's. :ThmbUp:

[dartman51]

Obama Raffle Video Not Legal, Election Law Experts Say
Friday, July 01, 2011
(CNSNews.com) – A video of President Barack Obama filmed in the White House and included in a fundraising e-mail sent to supporters is not legal, two election law experts told CNSNews.com.

The video was included in an e-mail sent to supporters of President Obama promoting a fundraising drive that offered participants a chance to win an invitation to dinner with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-raffle-video-not-legal-election-la


Haven't you figured out by now. LAWS DON'T APPLY TO THIS P.O.S. :ThmbUp:

[Tom]

Seeing Obama leave office, I think, will be very much like having your constipation medicine finally kick in.

[bigmack]

7/6: Jews abandoning BO.

78% voted BO '08. Down in the low 50's now.

Jews who agree with '67 border: 90% against - 10% fer.

Ain't so much the votes as it is the loot. Don't get me started on 3% of the population and __% of wealth. :lol:

Quick - Someone remind of who his base is again?

[ElKabong]

Obama Raffle Video Not Legal, Election Law Experts Say
Friday, July 01, 2011
(CNSNews.com) – A video of President Barack Obama filmed in the White House and included in a fundraising e-mail sent to supporters is not legal, two election law experts told CNSNews.com.

The video was included in an e-mail sent to supporters of President Obama promoting a fundraising drive that offered participants a chance to win an invitation to dinner with Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-raffle-video-not-legal-election-la

How about if Obama were to bend over, and let people pay $5 to kick him in the ass? If that's legal, he'd be able to raise billions

[plainolebill]

Prediction: the republicans will run a ticket that is so wacky that most people will hold their noses and vote for Obama. (and I think Obama is a very weak president)

[bigmack]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/gallup.png

http://www.gallup.com/poll/148487/Republican-Candidate-Extends-Lead-Obama.aspx

[Greyfox]

It would be great if that graph stands the test of time big Mack.
However, no one by the name of Generic R. Publican is running.

The next President is going to inherit such an economic mess, I would suspect that the brightest Republicans are "Running From Presidency."

[ElKabong]

Obama is losing the middle and the indy's at a rapid rate. Those votes were the difference for him in 2008. Now they will either sit out, or vote in spite much like they did vs the repubs 4 yrs ago

If I'm in the RNC I start looking for chicago style fixing at polling places asap in purple states. Right now he's lost all momentum and he won't get it back w/o dirty tactics

[Greyfox]

big mack your theory is getting more support.

Some Dems and Independents are suggesting a Primary.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/obama-poll-jobs-democratic-base-crumbling.html

From the article linked above:

Are You Better Off Today Than Jan. 20, 2009?

A slim 15% claim to be "getting ahead financially," half what it was in 2006. Fully 27% say they're falling behind financially. That's up 6 points since February.

A significant majority (54%) says they've been forced to change their lifestyle significantly as a result of the economic times -- and 60% of them are angry, up from 44%.http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0153902db22d970b-250wi (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0153902db22d970b-popup)

[sonnyp]

can you imagine how far we've fallen when you look back and you're sure you would have preferred that hillary had been elected? god that's sickening.

we're in deep shit.

[newtothegame]

big mack your theory is getting more support.

Some Dems and Independents are suggesting a Primary.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/obama-poll-jobs-democratic-base-crumbling.html

From the article linked above:

Are You Better Off Today Than Jan. 20, 2009?

A slim 15% claim to be "getting ahead financially," half what it was in 2006. Fully 27% say they're falling behind financially. That's up 6 points since February.

A significant majority (54%) says they've been forced to change their lifestyle significantly as a result of the economic times -- and 60% of them are angry, up from 44%.http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0153902db22d970b-250wi (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0153902db22d970b-popup)

WOW...look at these numbers from the same LA TIMES story.....

"
"More than a third of Americans now believe that President Obama’s policies are hurting the economy, and confidence in his ability to create jobs is sharply eroding among his base," the Post reports (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/more-americans-unhappy-with-obama-on-economy-jobs/2011/07/25/gIQABJ9sZI_story.html?wpisrc=al_politics).

Strong support among liberal Democrats for Obama's jobs record has plummeted 22 points from 53% down below a third. African Americans who believe the president's measures helped the economy have plunged from 77% to barely half.

Obama's overall job approval on the economy has slid below 40% for the first time, with 57% disapproving. And strong disapprovers outnumber approvers by better than two-to-one.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/obama-poll-jobs-democratic-base-crumbling.html

[PaceAdvantage]

Makes you wonder what world some of our more left-leaning friends who post here are living in...