How does $169.80 to show sound?

[Bruiser1]

It happened tonight in the 2nd @ Mountaineer. An odds on favorite must have received the attention of the Bridge Jumping MMB and finished off the board. Monitor Pass, an 80-1 shot ran third and paid $169.80 to show.

That's the biggest show payoff I can remember in 25 years following this sport.

[mannyberrios]

I saw that on HRTV, and I thought that it was a mistake

[affirmedny]

I'm more shocked that HRTV showed a race at night.....

[Mineshaft]

I'm more shocked that HRTV showed a race at night.....





exactly.........

[tbwinner]

Could've been a bomber at Arlington today. I noted that in the race with Trigger Fish Lane there was about $104k of $110k of show money on the heavy favorite who actually after the bell ended up being 2nd choice. Ended up 3rd only making that by a 1/2 length or so and if the jock gave up could've got 4th and triggered those huge show pays.

[Edward DeVere]

I'm more shocked that HRTV showed a race at night.....

Well, early night. It was the 2nd race and HRTV then exited, stage left.

[Southieboy]

Seem to recall one at CD about 7 years ago paying $244 to show.

[castaway01]

There was a $470 show price in a harness race at Sportsman's in 1993, but $169 is certainly a healthy return for a bridgejumper race.

[lamboguy]

i could never come up with that one in a million years. i did have the 12.40 horse though, but that was the only one i played in that race.

[rufus999]

A comment was made in the booth before the race about the bridge jumpers piling on.

rufus:9::9::9:

[showbet]

Here are some show bombs that took place during a 2 1/2 year span from November 2007 to June 2010. Most of them happened at tracks with small pools.

November 10, 2007, Dover Downs race 10: $219.80. $47K in the show pool. The other two horses that hit the board paid $143.00 and $111.00.

December 5, 2007, Northville Downs race 4: $200.60. $5K in the show pool. One of the other horses that hit the board paid $142.80.

July 29, 2008, Hazel Park race 6: $240.60. $13K in the show pool. The $240 horse had $29 bet on him to show.

August 8, 2009, Pocono Downs race 14: $266.80. There was only $3K in the show pool, and the horse that paid 266 bucks had $6 bet to show on him.

August 22, 2009, Ferndale race 8: $172.60. $98K in the show pool. The other two horses that hit the board paid $138.60 and $97.40.

[showbet]

September 13, 2009, Emerald Downs race 6 : $187.00. $156K in the show pool. The other two horses that hit the board paid $156.40 and $108.60.

October 19, 2009, Prairie Meadows Harness race 3: $169.20. $624 in the show pool. The $169 horse had nothing bet on him to win or place, and only $2 bet on him to show.

November 28, 2009, Northlands Park Harness race 7: $188.00. $17K in the show pool. One of the other horses that hit the board paid $136.60.

April 3, 2010, Saratoga Harness race 13: $188.60. $5.9K in the show pool. One of the other horses that hit the board paid $160.50.

June 6, 2010, Arapahoe Park race 7: $199.00. $24K in the show pool. The other two horses that hit the board paid $138.80 and $110.40.

[Bruiser1]

I have to ask.....Where did you find those statistics?

[showbet]

I have to ask.....Where did you find those statistics?
I watched all of those races, as they happened, and made screenshots of the WPS pools and the results.

The pool information and the payoffs are from Brisnet Supertote (http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/totedb/tracks.cgi) or Twin Spires (http://www.twinspires.com/). The results (except for the Northlands Harness and the Arapahoe Park races) are available at The (http://www.racingchannel.com/results_archive.htm)Racing Channel Results Archive (http://www.racingchannel.com/results_archive.htm).

[massman]

The Saratoga harness race I happened to bet the field to show because I overheard some loudmouth touting a 1/9 shot from the meadowlands coming to saratoga - no way he could lose, yada, yada yada. That was my first bet ever at that track. I thanked and offered to buy the guy and his buddy a beer.

[Mr_Ed]

There was a $470 show price in a harness race at Sportsman's in 1993, but $169 is certainly a healthy return for a bridgejumper race.

Record Show Payoff $470 At Sportsman's
Date: July 27, 1993

Show bettors reaped the largest show payoff - $470 - in harness racing history Monday night at Sportsman's Park.

The huge payoff was created when an unidentified bettor in Las Vegas wagered $100,000 to show on a heavy favorite HP Campion finished out of the money.

Alltogethernow, a 30-1 shot, won the second race and his payoff was $64.40 to win, $29.40 to place and $470 to show.

Runner-up Think Of That paid $11.40 and $183.20.

[Ian Meyers]

Here are some show bombs that took place during a 2 1/2 year span from November 2007 to June 2010. Most of them happened at tracks with small pools.

November 10, 2007, Dover Downs race 10: $219.80. $47K in the show pool. The other two horses that hit the board paid $143.00 and $111.00.

December 5, 2007, Northville Downs race 4: $200.60. $5K in the show pool. One of the other horses that hit the board paid $142.80.

July 29, 2008, Hazel Park race 6: $240.60. $13K in the show pool. The $240 horse had $29 bet on him to show.

August 8, 2009, Pocono Downs race 14: $266.80. There was only $3K in the show pool, and the horse that paid 266 bucks had $6 bet to show on him.

August 22, 2009, Ferndale race 8: $172.60. $98K in the show pool. The other two horses that hit the board paid $138.60 and $97.40.


I hit the Ferndale race. The favorite was a need the lead type in a cheap field of claimers where HTR said he'd face pace pressure. I bet $10 to show on everyone else in the field. My biggest anti-bridgejump score to date.

On the MNR race, I didn't bet the race right playing exactas instead of using ALL against a favorite I thought wouldn't hit the board. I told lamboguy that the MNR grass course is so much different from GP that I thought the favorite's late pace weakness might result in him finishing off the board. He was smarter than I was playing the second best horse big to show. :bang:

There was a race at Dover last fall with win only where the favorite had the 8 hole and the 2nd favorite the five hole. The 8 left hard, the five tried to park him and they killed each other. The winner paid over 99-1 and the 2nd and 3rd horses were 99-1+ as well.

[Striker]

Could've been a bomber at Arlington today. I noted that in the race with Trigger Fish Lane there was about $104k of $110k of show money on the heavy favorite who actually after the bell ended up being 2nd choice. Ended up 3rd only making that by a 1/2 length or so and if the jock gave up could've got 4th and triggered those huge show pays.
Saw this too. Rivelli strikes again maybe.

[Mr_Ed]

There was a race at Dover last fall with win only where the favorite had the 8 hole and the 2nd favorite the five hole. The 8 left hard, the five tried to park him and they killed each other. The winner paid over 99-1 and the 2nd and 3rd horses were 99-1+ as well.

Dec. 5, 2010 race 7 Dover Downs $100,000 2YO stake:

6 Conartist Hanover Eric Goodell 425.40 (win betting only)


Exacta 6/3 4341.00

Trifecta 6/3/4 6977.00

[Mr_Ed]

The day before at Dover....Dec. 4, 2010:

Race 7 was also carded as $100,000 stake race.

1 entry were 1-20....they came in 1-2.

Odds for all (in order of finish):

1- 20
317 -1
538 -1
527 - 1
943 - 1
1025 - 1
1441 - 1

Exacta paid $3.80 Trifecta $18.80

[Ian Meyers]

Dec. 5, 2010 race 7 Dover Downs $100,000 2YO stake:

6 Conartist Hanover Eric Goodell 425.40 (win betting only)


Exacta 6/3 4341.00

Trifecta 6/3/4 6977.00

Yes, that was the race.

Powerful Mist had the 8 hole after beating the same Delaware sire stake horses multiple times during the year. Three Martinis had I think the 4 or 5 and Montrell Teague decided to go at it with the favorite PM. They both finished way off the board thus the gigantic prices.

I didn't play the race because I couldn't see PM getting beat but at the same time wouldn't take 1-20 form the 8 hole.

[Ian Meyers]

The day before at Dover....Dec. 4, 2010:

Race 7 was also carded as $100,000 stake race.

1 entry were 1-20....they came in 1-2.

Odds for all (in order of finish):

1- 20
317 -1
538 -1
527 - 1
943 - 1
1025 - 1
1441 - 1


Yeah, that was the filly Delaware sire stakes final. Badlands Jenna was the overwhelming favorite and had a much better post. I know of one guy that came in for like $10k on that one and the same guys reupped the next day on the one that blew up.

[showbet]

The December 4 and December 5, 2010 races at Dover are also discussed in this thread (http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77932).

In the December 4 race the entry finished 1st and 4th. In the December 5 race Three Martini's finished 3rd.