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toetoe
06-04-2011, 02:22 AM
First, let me congratulate Greyfox on his absolute ignorance of 'The Hangover', and of Zach "I'm No Jim Backus" Galifianakis. :jump:



Now:

Swimming sensation's addendum receives succor. 6 letters, proper.

Greyfox
06-04-2011, 02:35 AM
First, let me congratulate Greyfox on his absolute ignorance of 'The Hangover', and of Zach "I'm No Jim Backus" Galifianakis. :jump:



Now:

Swimming sensation's addendum receives succor. 6 letters, proper.

And starting a new thread with that comment shows your class.
Thankyou.
Greyfox

Ocala Mike
06-04-2011, 03:03 AM
Swimming sensation's addendum receives succor. 6 letters, proper.


I'm still up handicapping the races for tomorrow and keeping what's left of my mind sharp with these puzzlers.

I only know two swimming sensations, Spitz and Phelps. Has to be PHELPS.

succor = help
addendum = ps, so ps "receives" help to give us P-HELP-S.

Good night, all!


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-04-2011, 10:27 AM
Native American carried around one with firewater (9)

Agitated French caper (7)

Treatment for other people hit internally (7)

Bowl while protected by box? (4)

Dismembering insects, it could be his specialty (9)

Greyfox
06-04-2011, 11:18 AM
Native American carried around one with firewater (9)

Agitated French caper (7)

Treatment for other people hit internally (7)

Bowl while protected by box? (4)

Dismembering insects, it could be his specialty (9)

:blush: Correction: Five letters are required for the clue:


Bowl while protected by box? (5)

Ocala Mike
06-04-2011, 11:34 AM
Agitated French caper [/b](7)




caper = antic
French = fr

FRANTIC = agitated


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-04-2011, 08:30 PM
Dismembering insects, it could be his specialty (9)
scientist

Overlay
06-04-2011, 09:55 PM
Treatment for other people hit internally (7)
therapy (treatment)(the- + rap + -y)

Overlay
06-04-2011, 09:58 PM
:blush: Correction: Five letters are required for the clue:


Bowl while protected by box? (5)
basin (b- + as + -in)

Greyfox
06-04-2011, 11:35 PM
YES! :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:
Four clues have been taken succesfully.
The only one not justified was Overlay's response of "Scientist"
which is an anagram of "insects it" in the clue:

Dismembering insects, it could be his specialty (9)
The puzzler told the solvers to take apart "insects it" and implied was the anagram to get "his specialtly."


The original Need Puzzle Help thread was started by toetoe and drew
over 63,000 hits, which is probably a record for this board.

Toetoe's kickoff of this new thread was very disappointing in the sense that it might discourage new and some routine solvers from trying cryptics here.
I don't think that he intended that for sure.

The success of Need Puzzle Help was absolutely Outstanding.
Thankyou toetoe, and thankyou for starting Need Puzzle Help II

I've brought over Overlay's suggestions on How to Do Cryptics from the original thread.
Newcomers to the board are most likely to check into the first page.
So this is a good place to put them.
I think they should be repeated again....perhaps a few thousand posts down the line.

Study these:

anagram: the answer is derived by rearranging the letters of another word contained in or suggested by the clue, such as "changing times" as a wordplay clue for "items", with the clue wording ("changing" in this example) indicating the alteration or rearrangement

deletion: the answer is derived by deleting a letter from a word given or suggested by the clue, such as "uncovered bent charm" as a wordplay clue for "enchant" ("penchant" ("bent") - p (i.e., the word "penchant" is "uncovered") = enchant ("charm"))(referred to as a beheadment, since the first letter is taken off); "fiery bird without a tail" for "flaming" (flamingo - o)(referred to as a curtailment, since the last letter is taken off, as indicated by "without a tail"); and "heartless miserly bloke" for "chap" (cheap - e) (referred to as an internal deletion, since a letter is deleted in the middle of the clue word (as indicated in this case by the word becoming "heartless") to get the answer)

charade: the answer is broken into smaller words that are clued individually, such as "auto animal" ("car" + "pet") for "carpet"

container: a word is inserted into another word to make up the answer, with the clue wording indicating this relationship, such as "Hospital residents make knots in trousers" for "patients" (pa- + tie + -nts)

hidden answer: the answer may appear intact in the clue, although perhaps in camouflaged form, such as "myopic colonel clutches flute" for "piccolo", where the word "clutches" indicates the concealment of the answer in the words "myopic colonel"

homophone: a word that sounds like the answer, generally accompanied by a word or phrase indicating that fact, such as "we hear" or "as they say", as in "counted frozen chicken out loud" as a clue for "numbered" ("numb bird" pronounced "out loud")

reversal: a clue where the order of the letters in a word are reversed to get the answer, with the wording of the clue providing an indication of the reversal, such as "returned beer fit for a king" as a clue for "regal" ("fit for a king")("lager" (beer") spelled backward ("returned"))

double definitions: a clue where the wordplay consists of two straight definitions of the answer, such as "scooter was blue" for "moped".


In the meanwhile, this clue still remains to be solved:

Native American carried around one with firewater (9)

nijinski
06-05-2011, 12:40 AM
Could Native American be Choctaw?

I assume firewater is the liquor but cannot find 9 letter one , but wildly
came up with Chocolate and there is a chocolate firewater fondue.

Native American carried around one with firewater (9) chocolate???

--------------------------------------------------------------------------Substance??

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 03:30 AM
163,383 hits!

Oops. I was 100,000 hits out. Need Puzzle Help drew 100,000 more hits than I reported above.

Sorry, nijinski, try again.
There is no use submitting a word like Choctaw which for starters does not have the required number of letters.

Hint: The answer to this one is more Native than American.

bigmack
06-05-2011, 04:50 AM
Without "The Master" what fun is any of it?

The Cucamonga Kid is sorely missed.

What a shame.

Overlay
06-05-2011, 08:26 AM
Could Native American be Choctaw?

I assume firewater is the liquor but cannot find 9 letter one , but wildly
came up with Chocolate and there is a chocolate firewater fondue.

Native American carried around one with firewater (9) chocolate???

--------------------------------------------------------------------------Substance??

The way I read the clue, I would look for the eight-letter name of a Native American tribe, to which the letter "i" can added (without rearranging the order of the letters) to produce the name of an alcolholic beverage, or a term related to alcoholic beverages.

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 11:27 AM
The way I read the clue, I would look for the eight-letter name of a Native American tribe, to which the letter "i" can added (without rearranging the order of the letters) to produce the name of an alcolholic beverage, or a term related to alcoholic beverages.

Native American carried around one with firewater (9)



That approach will not work on this clue. There is no need to come up with the name of an American tribe in this instance, although in others there might be.

For newcomers, every cryptic has two parts:
1. A Straight Definition - a word or more that defines what we are looking for.

2. Wordplay - the rest of the words in the clue are used to decipher or construct the answer, which in this case is 9 letters long.

3. Using Overlay's list above the actual answer here is a combination of
a charade and a container.

Hint: The Straight Definition is Native
(American is used as part of the Wordplay.)

Ocala Mike
06-05-2011, 11:42 AM
aborigine?


carried around = borne
American gives us the a

So, now I have aborne, to which I add igi in the middle to get ABORIGINE, a native of sorts (but not American).

Not sure about the igi however; is that a type of firewater?

My word play is weak sometimes.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 12:03 PM
Ocala Mike you are correct. Well done. :jump:

Native American carried around one with firewater (9)

Straight definition = native

Wordplay:

American contributes "a"
carried = bore
one = i
firewater = gin

a+bor + (i +gin) +e = ABORIGINE (native)

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 01:19 PM
Without "The Master" what fun is any of it?

.

The rest of us are just "chopped liver" eh? :lol:

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 03:34 PM
I thought Overlay had some for us. So to keep this thread going:

Trot admitting you gives watchmaker's aid for vision (5)

Concoct an opening (5)

Adjusted target area for races at sea (7)

Spots - Did Howdy Doody have 48 ? (8)

Overlay
06-05-2011, 06:19 PM
I thought Overlay had some for us.
I've been on the road since early Friday, driving from Oklahoma to Indian Head, Maryland (including a visit with my son in DC, where he's working for the Department of Justice this summer). Now that I'm at my destination, I'll try to be a bit more regular (until this coming Friday when I hit the road again for the return trip, with a side stop in Huntsville, AL, to check it out for a couple days before my wife and I move there next month).

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 06:21 PM
I've been on the road since early Friday, driving from Oklahoma to Indian Head, Maryland (including a visit with my son in DC, where he's working for the Department of Justice this summer). Now that I'm at my destination, I'll try to be a bit more regular (until this coming Friday when I hit the road again for the return trip, with a side stop in Huntsville, AL, to check it out for a couple days before my wife and I move there next month).

That's wonderful. Enjoy your trip. :ThmbUp:
Is the move to Huntsville, a military shuffle, or a retirement pick?

Overlay
06-05-2011, 06:21 PM
Adjusted target area for races at sea (7)
regatta ("target" adjusted (anagrammed) + "a")

Overlay
06-05-2011, 06:24 PM
Trot admitting you gives watchmaker's aid for vision (5)
loupe (lo- + "u" (you) + -pe)

Ocala Mike
06-05-2011, 08:40 PM
Concoct an opening (5)




HATCH

Straight def. of both concoct and opening.


Ocala Mike

Ocala Mike
06-05-2011, 08:43 PM
Spots - Did Howdy Doody have 48 ? [/b](8)


FRECKLES

Straight def. of spots. Reputedly, Howdy Doody (and I am old enough to report that I once turned down a chance to be in the "Peanut Gallery") had exactly 48 of them, one for each state at the time.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 11:11 PM
Yes! Howdy Doody had 48 freckles (57 today if Prez had way :lol: )

Freckles - Yes! Ocala Mike :ThmbUp:
Concoct - Yes! Ocala Mike :ThmbUp:
Regatta - Yes ! Overlay :ThmbUp:
Loupe - Yes ! Overlay:ThmbUp: I want to comment on Loupe


The clue was:Trot admitting you gives watchmaker's aid for vision (5)
Not a very common word and Overlay got it. :jump:

Straight defintion = watchmaker's aid for vision

Wordplay:

trot = lope
you = u

trot admitting you =lope + letting u in = lo+u+pe = LOUPE

Not a common word, but one that could be solved just using exactly what the puzzler tells you to do.
A watchmaker's loupe (sort of a magnifying glass) appears below:


http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES03/WATCHACCESSORIES3/PMWCWatchToolStarterKit/EyeLoupeTN.jpg

Greyfox
06-05-2011, 11:18 PM
FRECKLES

Straight def. of spots. Reputedly, Howdy Doody (and I am old enough to report that I once turned down a chance to be in the "Peanut Gallery") had exactly 48 of them, one for each state at the time.


Ocala Mike

Yes. Howdy Doody had 48 freckles, one for each State at the time.

With respect to your report that you once turned down a chance to be in the "Peanut Gallery" tells me that you were such a brat that your Mom refused to take you when you had the chance and that has become the trauma of your childhood.
:lol: :lol:
(Psst. If that's the worse thing that happened to you, you're probably quite an ok guy.!:ThmbUp: )

Ocala Mike
06-06-2011, 02:34 AM
Nope! My dad worked as a musician at The Stork Club in NYC, and some tv big was going to arrange it. I didn't want to go because it would have ruined my "pseudo-tough guy" image that I was cultivating at the time. I ran around with a rough crowd in a tough neighborhood in Queens, NYC, and would have been "ranked out" mercilessly.

Those who know me now would have a hard time believing that tough-guy thing!


Ocala Mike

toetoe
06-06-2011, 03:07 AM
homophone





I used to own one of those (although I'll deny it publically). Spotty reception, but I was getting more assonance than a toilet seat. :jump:

toetoe
06-06-2011, 03:11 AM
There is no use


None indeed. :(

toetoe
06-06-2011, 03:15 AM
Without "The Master" what fun is any of it?

The Cucamonga Kid is sorely missed.

What a shame.



Do me a favor, Massimo. Post here more often ... not !!!

:p and ;) and ... flagging now ... :sleeping:

toetoe
06-06-2011, 03:21 AM
The way I read the clue, I would look for the eight-letter name of a Native American tribe, to which the letter "i" can added (without rearranging the order of the letters) to produce the name of an alcolholic beverage, or a term related to alcoholic beverages.




I gotta believe the vowel housing's not adaptable on this model. Yer lookin' at three hours fly time, assuming availability at the dealer. The letteryard's another option, but then ya got no guarantee it won't anagramize on ya; at which point ya got alphabet soup or inconsonance --- or both.

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 04:03 PM
Dish that tied a snake in knots (5,5 Partially proper)

Drilled mantra produces ennui (7)

U.S. author "Do Health Resorts help?" (3,6 Proper)

Last of four excuses for lopsided defeats (5)

Album God Roy mixed for a big band leader (3,8 Proper)

wisconsin
06-06-2011, 06:54 PM
Last of four excuses for lopsided defeats (5)


My take:

lopsided defeat = rout

last of four = our or rou

Routs

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Last of four excuses for lopsided defeats (5)


My take:

lopsided defeat = rout

last of four = our or rou

Routs

Correct answer Wisconsin. :ThmbUp:Well done, except for the wordplay which is always optional, particularly for beginners. However, doing wordplay improves your puzzle solving ability.

Wordplay:
Last of four excuses for lopsided defeats (5)

Last of four = the letter "r" (the last letter in four)
excuses = outs

r+outs = ROUTS

wisconsin
06-06-2011, 07:17 PM
So there can be different ways to arrive at a conclusion?

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 07:19 PM
So there can be different ways to arrive at a conclusion?

Absolutely. Sometimes the answer just pops into mind. Other times nothing moves. However, in the example you provided it was simply a coincidence that the letters "our" were in the clue. Also, your solution, while correct, couldn't justify the "t."

Most puzzles consist of two parts:
1. Straight definition
2. Wordplay

Sometimes one spots the word just from the definition, and then toying around with the wordplay demonstrates the definiton.
Other times one really is not sure what the Straight definiton is, but by doing exactly what the puzzler says to do the answer appears and then you also see the Straight definiton.

wisconsin
06-06-2011, 07:29 PM
Absolutely. Sometimes the answer just pops into mind. Other times nothing moves. However, in the example you provided it was simply a coincidence that the letters "our" were in the clue. Also, your solution, while correct, couldn't justify the "t."


Which is why you don't see me trotting out too many answers, unless they feel right. Got lucky with a couple, like the cats and, what was it it, making music, and I just thought of a musical term the has cat or cats, and staccato made sense. Some make little sense to me even when proven.

This sure is fun, none the less......

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 07:33 PM
In Post #10 of Page 1 of this thread Overlay has outlined several different techniques that are used in "cryptics." That review covers most of the ways that the clues are hidden. Read it, over, and over. Also if you follow the solutions here they will become easier. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and the ability to do cryptics isn't either. In the long run, you'll find it helpful in handicapping horses as well. ;)

nijinski
06-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Drilled mantra produces ennui (7)

drilled-bore + d + om = boredom

nijinski
06-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Anagram as defined with " mixed " , Guy Lombardo ??

Album God Roy mixed for a big band leader (3,8 Proper)

toetoe
06-06-2011, 08:20 PM
U.S. author ... Dos Passos

toetoe
06-06-2011, 08:26 PM
Album... Guy Lombardo

toetoe
06-06-2011, 08:28 PM
Anagram as defined with " mixed " , Guy Lombardo ??

Album God Roy mixed for a big band leader (3,8 Proper)



Well done, Nidge. I missed it. :ThmbUp:

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 08:32 PM
Yes! nijinski takes Guy Lombardo and boredom. Toetoe got Dos Passos. :jump: :jump: :jump:

For newcomers I'm going to justify the Dos Passos answer, although that is always optional. When I do them at home I don't write them out.


U.S. author "Do Health Resorts help?" (3,6 Proper)

The clue is Proper, which probably tells us to look for an American Author, who has a first name with three letters, and last name with 6.

Wordplay:

Do = do
health resorts = spas
help = S.O.S

do+spas+sos = Dos Passos (a U.S. Author)

toetoe
06-06-2011, 09:33 PM
Dancer takes look into brass ring. 7 letters, proper.

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 09:42 PM
And this one remains too.

Dish that tied a snake in knots (5,5 Partially proper)

toetoe
06-06-2011, 09:58 PM
And this one remains too.

Dish that tied a snake in knots (5,5 Partially proper)



Steak Diane ?



---- Chris Hanburger

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 10:06 PM
Steak Diane ?



---- Chris Hanburger

:jump: :jump: :jump:
Yes. Anagram of "tied a snake" !

Ocala Mike
06-06-2011, 11:18 PM
Dancer takes look into brass ring. 7 letters, proper.


ASTAIRE?

look = stare

Rest of wordplay = ?


Ocala Mike

Ocala Mike
06-06-2011, 11:21 PM
look for an American Author, who has a first name with three letters, and last name with 6.



Or, in this case, a last name with two parts consisting of 3 and 6 letters, respectively. I'm sure you know his name is John Dos Passos.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-06-2011, 11:34 PM
look for an American Author, who has a first name with three letters, and last name with 6.



Or, in this case, a last name with two parts consisting of 3 and 6 letters, respectively. I'm sure you know his name is John Dos Passos.


Ocala Mike

Yes. In my rush to justify the three, six configuration I left his first name off.
Thank you for pointing that out.

Some how I don't think that Astaire will be correct.
There is no sign of a brass ring.
I thought of Bristol Palin, but while it has brass = br and an L for look
the rest can't be justified either. (Besides, I wouldn't call her a dancer anyways.)

toetoe
06-07-2011, 02:05 PM
ASTAIRE?

look = stare

Rest of wordplay = ?


Ocala Mike



Think of 'ring' in a special way.

toetoe
06-07-2011, 02:07 PM
Reportedly, our man was in silver. 6 letters.

nijinski
06-07-2011, 10:12 PM
Reportedly, our man was in silver. 6 letters.

Argent??

toetoe
06-07-2011, 10:14 PM
Argent??



Bingo !!!

Now, think of your confrere while cogitating the other clue.

Overlay
06-07-2011, 10:29 PM
Dancer takes look into brass ring. 7 letters, proper.
Nureyev ("eye" ("look") in "nurv" ("nerve" ("brass") homophone))

nijinski
06-07-2011, 10:52 PM
Bingo !!!

Now, think of your confrere while cogitating the other clue.

I tried before your hint , but the clue was over my head .

Both God's of Dance and Horse Racing though !

Greyfox
06-07-2011, 11:10 PM
Nureyev ("eye" ("look") in "nurv" ("nerve" ("brass") homophone))


Great call, Overlay
There are only so many dancers and I "eyed" Nureyev (7) letters as a call.
However I was hung up on "ring." In this instance, "ring" did not= o.
The "ring" was not a letter or an "o" but the sound of.
Excellent clue in the rearview mirror toetoe.

Ocala Mike submitted Astaire, which was a pretty smart guess with the "stare" involved, but it didn't handle "brass."
I looked up wikipedias Famous Dancers, spent energy looking for something that would be lie "b-eye-r-o and other options but ended up a gum tree.
To see that clue solved, while I was away golfing, whew. :jump: :jump:

Greyfox
06-07-2011, 11:39 PM
Just to keep the kettle boiling I'll post someclues.

The Green clue is for newer solvers interested in this thread.
But they are welcome to try the others as well.

Clean side of window by tree (4)

(If you get that one, "Good on you." Experienced puzzlers would knock it off in an eyeblink. But newer cryptic's players, would find that a challenge.

For everybody:

Commonplace room for manoeuvre after start of proceedings (9)

Take responsibility for joint (8)

Raised platform is supporting US lawyer (4)

nijinski
06-08-2011, 12:22 AM
Raised platform is supporting US lawyer (4)
Dais??

HuggingTheRail
06-08-2011, 01:02 AM
Take responsibility for joint (8)



Shoulder ? (thinking of it being a double meaning for take responsibility for and joint)

Greyfox
06-08-2011, 06:02 AM
:jump: :jump: Dais = District Attorney +Is = D.A. + is = Dais --> nijinski
:jump: :jump: Shoulder correctly identified as double definition --> Huggin'

These remain:

Clean side of window by tree (4) (for newer solvers only)

Commonplace room for manoeuvre after start of proceedings (9)

toetoe
06-08-2011, 12:00 PM
Nureyev ("eye" ("look") in "nurv" ("nerve" ("brass") homophone))


Bravo. :ThmbUp:

PhantomOnTour
06-08-2011, 12:14 PM
Total guess:
PLATITUDE?

toetoe
06-08-2011, 12:14 PM
:jump: :jump: Dais = District Attorney +Is = D.A. + is = Dais --> nijinski
:jump: :jump: Shoulder correctly identified as double definition --> Huggin'

These remain:

Clean side of window by tree (4) (for newer solvers only)

Commonplace room for manoeuvre after start of proceedings (9)





Makeshift ???

PhantomOnTour
06-08-2011, 12:16 PM
Nice Toetoe...you had a "desperate stab" and I had a "total guess" :lol:
Both at the same exact time.....

Greyfox
06-08-2011, 12:46 PM
Yes. Phantom, "plattitude" is indeed correct. :jump:

Commonplace room for manoeuvre after start of proceedings (9)

Straight definition = commonplace

Wordplay:

room for manoeuvre = latitude
start of proceedings = the "p" in proceedings

p+latitude = platitude

PhantomOnTour
06-08-2011, 12:49 PM
Score!
Sometimes, once in awhile, I pop in and get one right.

Greyfox
06-08-2011, 02:45 PM
Clean side of window by tree (4) (for newer solvers only)

Cryptic clues really don't come much easier than this one.
Most clues involve two steps:
1. Identifying a Straight Definition (usually at the start or end of the clue)
2. Using the remaining letters or words in the clue to come up with the answer, which in this instance will be 4 letters long.

I thought that the clue above would be nailed by now.
As it isn't, help is provided here.

Straight definition = clean

Wordplay:
The straight definition is clean, which I've told you.
Now you have to use the rest of the clue to come up with a synonym of clean.
Do exactly what the puzzler is telling you to do.
The clue says : side of window + tree.
Doing that correctly will give you the solution.

In the meanwhile, here are some more for everybody:

By the sound of it, longed for a group of players (4)

Attraction supplied by game in feature of castle ? (10)

Some hero symbolised in noted statue (4)

Ocala Mike
06-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Some hero symbolised in noted statue [/b](4)


I like the embedded ones the best:

EROS

Some hERO Symbolised in noted statue.

Ocala Mike

Ocala Mike
06-08-2011, 02:56 PM
Hmmm. A good clue on the green one above is to consider the definition of the VERB clean, not the ADJECTIVE clean. Too much clue?


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-08-2011, 03:06 PM
I like the embedded ones the best:

EROS

Some hERO Symbolised in noted statue.

Ocala Mike

Yes! :jump: Eros is the primordial God of sexual love and beauty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros

There are several statues of Eros in the world.
The one that I've seen in person is at Piccadilly Circus in London, England.
(Of course Piccadilly Circus isn't the usual "circus" that most of us refer to.)

http://www.travel-magazine-uk.com/images/jegranet-royalty-free-arts-architecture-landmarks-eros-piccadilly-circus-london-west-end.jpg.

Ocala Mike
06-08-2011, 03:12 PM
Yeah, I never thought Eros was a "hero," but I considered the British slant to most of these, and remembered that statue in London.


Ocala Mike

wisconsin
06-08-2011, 04:41 PM
clean side if window by tree

:blush:

took me a long time to to get this "simple" one as you say

side of window is a w, got that, but when you said + tree, well I was stumped, and then looked up names of trees....duh-uh, darned if it was right there,

w+ash = wash

Greyfox
06-08-2011, 05:27 PM
clean side if window by tree

:blush:

took me a long time to to get this "simple" one as you say

side of window is a w, got that, but when you said + tree, well I was stumped, and then looked up names of trees....duh-uh, darned if it was right there,

w+ash = wash

Clean side of window by tree (4) (for newer solvers only)

Straight definition = clean

Yes, Wisconsin:jump:

"W+ash" = wash = clean

No need to be embarrassed. As a new solver cryptics aren't easy.
However, when you do strike the answer, you wonder what was so hard about that. Furthermore, other new solvers didn't submit the answer either. Give yourself a pat on the back.

These two are still to be solved:
By the sound of it, longed for a group of players (4)

Attraction supplied by game in feature of castle ? (10)

Overlay
06-08-2011, 05:38 PM
Attraction supplied by game in feature of castle ? (10)
drawbridge

Overlay
06-08-2011, 05:39 PM
[color=#008000]By the sound of it, longed for a group of players (4)
side (homophone of "sighed")

Greyfox
06-08-2011, 06:23 PM
Yes. :jump: Overlay took down "side" (homophone of sighed) and "drawbridge"
(attraction = draw ; game = bridge draw+bridge = drawbridge.) :ThmbUp:

Greyfox
06-09-2011, 03:20 PM
Birds found by Uncle covering face (4)

Country not out to get revolutionary support (5) Proper

Trial on air quashed as unsound (10)

Box secreted by Mexican is terrifying (8)

Run through a white-man's self-description (6)

Overlay
06-09-2011, 09:34 PM
Trial on air quashed as unsound (10)
irrational (unsound)("trial on air" "quashed"(anagrammed))

Overlay
06-09-2011, 09:39 PM
Run through a white-man's self-description (6)
impale (I'm pale)

Ocala Mike
06-09-2011, 09:54 PM
Box secreted by Mexican is terrifying (8)




CANISTER

Straight def. of box
Hidden (secreted) in Mexi CAN IS TER rifying.


Ocala Mike

Ocala Mike
06-09-2011, 10:01 PM
Birds found by Uncle covering face (4)




Uncle is capitalized, so going with a famous Uncle from my childhood, Uncle Remus.

Covering the "face" of Remus gives us the answer, EMUS.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-09-2011, 10:15 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OG3i1o1f67E/RgPd2ryY4UI/AAAAAAAAAVE/qTNIf89FYg4/s320/remuskids.jpg

For those too young to remember Uncle Remus.

That's 4, 1 to go.

Well done lads. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

HuggingTheRail
06-10-2011, 12:36 AM
Country not out to get revolutionary support (5) Proper



India

straight def = country

not out = in
support = aid (aid is "revolutionary, or flipped (revolved))

in + dia= india

Greyfox
06-10-2011, 02:33 AM
India

straight def = country

not out = in
support = aid (aid is "revolutionary, or flipped (revolved))

in + dia= india

:jump: Yes. And here's hoping the Canucks can solve the Thomas cryptic again.
They need to realize that he's vulnerable laterally. Pass across the net and pop it in.

Greyfox
06-10-2011, 06:06 PM
With Overlay away there aren't many posting clues in here, so I'll try to keep us on life support while he's on holidays. Ahoy cryptic solvers, here's some more.

Craft is out of the water with nothing on board (4)

Tuba got lost in tower (7)

Ship and tractor-trailer kept in lot (7)

Odd reliance on large passenger ship (5,5)

Feline mom trotted around a vessel (9)

Exhaust me, taking run in vessel (7)

toetoe
06-10-2011, 06:41 PM
Odd ... Ocean liner.

Greyfox
06-10-2011, 08:36 PM
Odd ... Ocean liner.

Yes! toetoe cruised this one in. :ThmbUp:

Odd reliance on large passenger ship (5,5)

Straight definition = large passenger ship

Wordplay:
Anagram of letters in "reliance on" = ocean liner

nijinski
06-10-2011, 10:50 PM
Tuba got lost in tower (7) Tugboat??

Greyfox
06-10-2011, 11:25 PM
Tuba got lost in tower (7) Tugboat??


Yes! :jump: Well done nijinski.

Tuba got lost in tower (7)

Straight definition = tower ( as in towing something)

Wordplay: anagram of letters in "tuba got" (they were lost as such).


Still at sea for guidance into port are:


Craft is out of the water with nothing on board (4)

Ship and tractor-trailer kept in lot (7)

Feline mom trotted around a vessel (9)

Exhaust me, taking run in vessel (7)

Ocala Mike
06-10-2011, 11:25 PM
Feline mom trotted around a vessel [/b](9)




CATAMARAN = straight def. of vessel

feline = CAT
mom = MA
trotted = RAN
"around a" gives the answer.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-10-2011, 11:27 PM
CATAMARAN = straight def. of vessel

feline = CAT
mom = MA
trotted = RAN
"around a" gives the answer.


Ocala Mike

:jump:Yes. That one's safe in harbor. Well done Ocala Mike. :ThmbUp:

Overlay
06-11-2011, 02:25 AM
Craft is out of the water with nothing on board (4)
dory (d- + o + -ry)

Overlay
06-11-2011, 02:29 AM
Exhaust me, taking run in vessel (7)
trireme (a vessel propelled by three decks of oarsmen)(t- + r (run, as in a baseball stat) + -ire + me)

Overlay
06-11-2011, 02:32 AM
Ship and tractor-trailer kept in lot (7)
frigate (f- + rig + -ate)

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 08:02 AM
Yes! Overlay wasn't "out to sea" on those. He polished them all off. :ThmbUp:
dory (d- + o + -ry) is worth mentioning.

Craft is out of the water with nothing on board (4)

For beginners:
The puzzler is telling us that the Straight Definition is Craft (which has several meanings.) In this instance it turns out to be referring to a sailing vessel.

Out of water = dry
"nothing on board"= o

putting 0 on board of dry Overlay gives us "dory"- a sailing craft,

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 07:42 PM
Part of aircraft storing old rope (5)

Survival skill required on Presidential yacht? (9)

What might be worn by an eccentric technocrat? (6,4)

Exploited by America, England beginning to doubt (4)

Sign nothing in front of work force (4)

Ocala Mike
06-11-2011, 08:13 PM
Part of aircraft storing old rope (5)





I couldn't figure out the Belmont Stakes puzzle, so I'll try this one:

Part of aircraft = nose
old gives us the "o" stored in it, so

NOOSE (straight def. of old rope).


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-11-2011, 08:17 PM
Sign nothing in front of work force (4)
omen (sign)(0 + men)

Ocala Mike
06-11-2011, 08:18 PM
What might be worn by an eccentric technocrat? [/b](6,4)




I see an anagram, but I don't know why you'd be eccentric to wear one (out of style?)

TRENCHCOAT is a straight anagram of technocrat, and is something that could be worn.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 08:18 PM
I couldn't figure out the Belmont Stakes puzzle, so I'll try this one:

Part of aircraft = nose
old gives us the "o" stored in it, so

NOOSE (straight def. of old rope).


Ocala Mike

Yes! Ocala Mike "noose" is correct. :ThmbUp:
(The straight definition was just "rope," "old" was in the wordplay.)

"Trench coat" is indeed the answer. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

My Belmont picks would be lucky to come in before the 12 th race. :mad:

toetoe
06-11-2011, 08:20 PM
Trench coat, used, omen.

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 08:23 PM
Overlay took "omen.":ThmbUp:
Toetoe took "used." :ThmbUp:
One to go.

Overlay
06-11-2011, 09:06 PM
Survival skill required on Presidential yacht? (9)
Slightly dated, but bushcraft

Overlay
06-11-2011, 09:12 PM
Poor man is held for abuse (9)

Amulet initially caused trouble (5)

Customs Act added to costs (9)

Suggest suppressing identity scare (10)

Abandons part of speech going into shortened intermission (9)

P.S. By the way, what's happened to falconridge? I think he's only had three PA posts total in the last two months.

Ocala Mike
06-11-2011, 09:37 PM
What the hell is bushcraft? Like I say, you need a British or Aussie to American dictionary for some of these. Bushcraft?


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 10:36 PM
What the hell is bushcraft? Like I say, you need a British or Aussie to American dictionary for some of these. Bushcraft?


Ocala Mike


Wrong.:ThmbDown:
Absolutely wrong.

The clue was pretty obvious without a dictionary.
Overlay nailed it and I know that he's not Australian or from Britain.
Nor was a dictionary needed.
The clue was:
Survival skill required on Presidential yacht? (9)

Straight definition = survival skill

President = Bush
yacht = craft
bush + craft = bushcraft

If you didn't know the word "bushcraft" your vocabulary has expanded, and that's the goal of cryptics.

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 10:52 PM
Amulet initially caused trouble (5)


P.S. By the way, what's happened to falconridge? I think he's only had three PA posts total in the last two months.

re: Falc -- I thought that he was on your PAIHL team for the Handicapping Contest?? And you don't know?? :confused:
(Actually, if memory serves me correctly, your Team's Submissions for Picks in the PAIHL contest were put in by Falconridge for the contest each Saturday. The last one being on Kentucky Derby day just over a month ago. But now you have me thinking, that those picks were actually yours and you needed two other players to enter. Toetoe and Falc.....???
If so, you did well for a solo flyer. :ThmbUp: Of course you must have read my book. :lol: )


I'll leave the others 'til morning and hopefully they will be picked off.

Amulet initially caused trouble (5)

Straight defintion = amulet

Wordplay:

intially caused = the first letter in "caused" = c
trouble = harm

c+harm = CHARM

Overlay
06-11-2011, 11:11 PM
re: Falc -- I thought that he was on your PAIHL team for the Handicapping Contest?? And you don't know?? :confuse:
Falconridge was a full participant on our PAIHL team, but that contest ended (for us) on 23 April. He's had only three posts since then (two related to his birthday on 4 May, and the latest one in this thread on 16 May).

Overlay
06-11-2011, 11:12 PM
CHARM
Right.

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 11:32 PM
Falconridge was a full participant on our PAIHL team, but that contest ended (for us) on 23 April. He's had only three posts since then (two related to his birthday on 4 May, and the latest one in this thread on 16 May).

Actually in reply to you Overlay,
Falconridge made the following comment:

"Eighteen months ago, I was consigned to the scrap heap of those who do no longer; I only stir and chafe (and likely will continue to do so) among those who are done (though it’s my creditors who dun)."

Was that a cryptic reply??

Paging Falconridge - we miss your contributions.

Greyfox
06-11-2011, 11:40 PM
Well just one more:

Poor man is held for abuse (9)

Straight definition = abuse

Wordplay:

The puzzle setter is telling us that "man is held" is not up to snuff.
Therefore, we look for an anagram of the letters in "man is held."

Anagram of "man is held" letters = MISHANDLE (abuse)

toetoe
06-12-2011, 01:07 AM
Customs ... practices

Ocala Mike
06-12-2011, 02:40 AM
Sorry about my rant on bushcraft. Now I know what it is (even though I live on a farm, I'm not the outdoorsy, woodsman/hunter type). Like you say, solving these things helps with one's vocabularly.


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-12-2011, 03:59 AM
MISHANDLE (abuse)
Customs ... practices
Both correct.

Overlay
06-12-2011, 04:27 AM
That's wonderful. Enjoy your trip. :ThmbUp:
Is the move to Huntsville, a military shuffle, or a retirement pick?
I realized that I never answered your earlier question above.

My upcoming relocation to Huntsville is a regular permanent change-of-station reassignment related to the mandatory mobility associated with my Army civilian (Civil Service) career program (Career Program 20 -- Quality Assurance Specialist (Ammunition Surveillance) (GS-1910 series)). (It's my tenth such move in 33 years.) (Huntsville wasn't #1 on my "dream sheet" for relocation, but it was the highest-ranking place at which a slot at my grade level was available.)

I anticipate retiring in Huntsville at the end of 2013 (after our daughter has her undergraduate degree, and my conventional IRA has kicked in). (I've been technically eligible for full Civil Service retirement based on age and length of service since March, 2009.) I don't know whether we'll always remain in Huntsville, but that's our plan for the immediate future. For now, it's about halfway between our son (who currently anticipates staying in New England after he graduates from law school -- and takes the bar exam -- next year) and our daughter (who's in college back in Oklahoma, although she may move out-of-state to teach once she graduates, under the requirements of her planned degree in mathematics education).

toetoe
06-12-2011, 04:55 AM
Abandons ... renounces

toetoe
06-12-2011, 04:57 AM
Suggest ... intimidate

Overlay
06-12-2011, 05:02 AM
Abandons ... renounces
Suggest ... intimidate
That's all of them.

Greyfox
06-12-2011, 05:34 AM
Here's some more:

Part of seemingly cogent energy source (8)

Observe Seinfeld's neighbor returned (6)

Shells, e.g., lying in hammock (4) (Newer solvers only)

Torrential downpour - leave the sled? (6)

Dismal doctor with year off (6)

Overlay
06-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Dismal doctor with year off (6)
dreary (dismal)(dr. + year, "off" (anagrammed))

Overlay
06-12-2011, 09:49 AM
Observe Seinfeld's neighbor returned (6)
remark (Kramer returned (backwards))

Overlay
06-12-2011, 09:51 AM
Part of seemingly cogent energy source (8)
glycogen

Overlay
06-12-2011, 09:55 AM
[/color]Torrential downpour - leave the sled? (6)
deluge (de-luge)

Overlay
06-12-2011, 10:32 AM
I'll leave Greyfox's clue for newer solvers on the table.

Broken canister leaks a bit of toxic poison (7)

Don't start to tease family member (4)

Peg constantly finds fault with all but the first of her kids (8)

Overweight, some Chinese boats flipped over (5)

Amber, maybe, to misbehave again? (5)

Greyfox
06-12-2011, 11:49 AM
Yes. :jump: :jump: Overlay cleaned off mine and justified them well.
He's left this green clue standing for newer solvers. (I'm sure he knows the answer. It would be a shock if he didn't, he is a munitions expert and top of the class in cryptics. )

Shells, e.g., lying in hammock (4) (Newer solvers only)

Greyfox
06-12-2011, 11:51 AM
Don't start to tease family member (4)

Straight definition = family member

Wordplay:

tease = taunt
but tease doesn't start so we remove the first letter of taunt = AUNT

Overweight, some Chinese boats flipped over (5)

Straight definition = overweight

Wordplay: The answer is embedded in the clue as a reversal : Obese

Overlay
06-12-2011, 12:48 PM
Paging Falconridge - we miss your contributions.
He's logged on to the board right now. I just sent him both an e-mail and a PM, asking him to check in.

Both of your answers were correct, by the way.

Greyfox
06-12-2011, 12:50 PM
That's great news. I hope everything is okay for Falc. He's a genius with respect to cryptics.

I thought this one should have been gone by now.

Amber, maybe, to misbehave again? (5)

Straight definition = amber

Wordplay:

To misbehave again? = re-sin

Answer : RESIN


Amber: (noun) Hard translucent fossilized resin produced by extinct coniferous trees of the Tertiary period, typically yellowish in color.

Overlay
06-12-2011, 12:54 PM
RESIN
3-for-3

Ocala Mike
06-12-2011, 01:04 PM
Broken canister leaks a bit of toxic poison (7)





CISTERN?


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-12-2011, 01:39 PM
CISTERN?
Right idea, but wrong straight definition. Try again.

Ocala Mike
06-12-2011, 01:43 PM
Right idea, but wrong straight definition. Try again.


OK, got it. ARSENIC


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-12-2011, 01:58 PM
ARSENIC
That's it. One more (from my latest batch) to go.

Overlay
06-12-2011, 02:00 PM
Shells, e.g., lying in hammock (4) (Newer solvers only)
Peg constantly finds fault with all but the first of her kids (8)
Still unsolved

Overlay
06-12-2011, 04:43 PM
Peg constantly finds fault with all but the first of her kids (8)
Please excuse a letter-counting error on my part in the above clue. The corrected clue reads as follows:

Peg constantly finds fault with all but the first of her kids (9)

wisconsin
06-12-2011, 10:28 PM
Shells, e.g., lying in hammock (4) (Newer solvers only)


hammock = nest

shells= eggs

eggs would be found lying in a nest

eggs

Greyfox
06-12-2011, 11:59 PM
hammock = nest

shells= eggs

eggs would be found lying in a nest

eggs

Sorry Wisconsin, but eggs is not correct.

Hints:
1. Straight definition = shells
2. Wordplay = look for shells embedded in the clue. ;)

toetoe
06-13-2011, 12:26 AM
It's practically slang, isn't it ? It's an abbreviated word that is very informal. That's fine, but shouldn't it be noted ?

nijinski
06-13-2011, 06:52 AM
Shells, e.g., lying in hammock (4) (Newer solvers only

Ammo ?? It's embedded in hammock .

Greyfox
06-13-2011, 07:01 AM
Shells, e.g., lying in hammock (4) (Newer solvers only

Ammo ?? It's embedded in hammock .

Yes! nijinski ammo is the answer. :jump:

(Yes, toetoe, it is an abreviation of ammunition, but the slang useage is so common that the puzzle setter did not have need to point that out.)

falconridge
06-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Peg constantly finds fault with all but the first of her kids (9)
TEENAGERS

Peg = TEE; constantly finds fault with = NAGS; all but the first of her = ER; kids being the definition component of the cryptic.

Ocala Mike
06-13-2011, 11:43 AM
That's a good one, falconridge!

I was hung up on Peg Bundy from "Marrried With Children."


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-13-2011, 02:42 PM
TEENAGERS

Peg = TEE; constantly finds fault with = NAGS; all but the first of her = ER; kids being the definition component of the cryptic.

Excellent Falconridge:jump:
I couldn't get off teetotals and knew that it didn't fit the straight definition at either end of the puzzle. I was also hung up on kids = tease. Wrong on both counts.

Overlay
06-13-2011, 07:36 PM
Pardoning a misplayed item at a recital (5,5)

Send back mostly frozen prunes (4)

Head of state wearing unusual coat and tie (5)

Armed ship at far end of shoreline slipping into quiet estuary (9)

Fool issued permission (7)

toetoe
06-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Pardoning ... grand piano

Head ... ascot

toetoe
06-13-2011, 07:55 PM
Send ... nips ???

Overlay
06-13-2011, 08:11 PM
Right on the first two, wrong on the third

Greyfox
06-13-2011, 09:14 PM
Fool issued permission (7)

Straight definition = permission

Wordplay:

Fool = con
issued = sent
con + sent = CONSENT (permission)

These clues of Overlay's still remain:

Send back mostly frozen prunes (4)

Armed ship at far end of shoreline slipping into quiet estuary (9)

Ocala Mike
06-13-2011, 11:13 PM
Armed ship at far end of shoreline slipping into quiet estuary (9)




DESTROYER?


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-14-2011, 01:39 AM
DESTROYER?
Right straight definition, but wrong answer.

Greyfox
06-14-2011, 04:59 AM
Armed ship at far end of shoreline slipping into quiet estuary (9)


I looked up several lists of battleships and none listed any 9 letter armed ship worthy of mentioning other than Ocala Mike's destroyer and submarine, neither of which could be justified.

Then I started trying to decipher the clues:

quiet = is often "p" or "sh" in cryptics, in this case = p
estuary = river
far end of shoreline = e (the last letter on shoreline)
at = at

Doing exactly what the puzzle setter tells us to do, I determine:

p +riv +(at+e)+er = PRIVATEER (an armed ship)

Overlay
06-14-2011, 06:10 AM
PRIVATEER (an armed ship)
Yes. One still left.

Greyfox
06-14-2011, 10:30 AM
Actually I thought that toetoe's answer of nips was the right one as it took up most of frozen (nippy) and put the s on the back.
But alas it wasn't, so here's another wild stab.

Send back mostly frozen prunes (4)

Straight definition = prunes (as in to take branches off a tree)

Wordplay:

send= s
That s will be at the back of mostly frozen.

frozen = stopped
Taking "top" from stopped + s = top+s = TOPS (as in topping a tree):confused:

Overlay
06-14-2011, 12:13 PM
Actually I thought that toetoe's answer of nips was the right one as it took up most of frozen (nippy) and put the s on the back.
But alas it wasn't, so here's another wild stab.

Send back mostly frozen prunes (4)

Straight definition = prunes (as in to take branches off a tree)

Wordplay:

send= s
That s will be at the back of mostly frozen.

frozen = stopped
Taking "top" from stopped + s = top+s = TOPS (as in topping a tree):confused:
Right straight definition, but wrong interpretation of "send back", and wrong synonym for "frozen".

Greyfox
06-14-2011, 12:42 PM
I still up a gum tree but I've got to submit this one.

Straight definition = prunes

Wordplay:
back mostly frozen
frozen = polar
reversed = ralop
most of that is lop
send = s
lops = LOPS (prunes) :confused:

Overlay
06-14-2011, 05:04 PM
I still up a gum tree but I've got to submit this one.

Straight definition = prunes

Wordplay:
back mostly frozen
frozen = polar
reversed = ralop
most of that is lop
send = s
lops = LOPS (prunes) :confused:

Still wrong synonym for frozen. Still misinterpreting "send" (it goes with "back").

nijinski
06-14-2011, 05:54 PM
Send back - Flip ?? Spin which is nips backwards??

toetoe
06-14-2011, 05:59 PM
Mows ???

Overlay
06-14-2011, 06:21 PM
No and no.

Overlay
06-14-2011, 07:00 PM
Well, since (incredibly and inexplicably to me) a search of Thesaurus.com did not turn up the word used in the solution as a synonym for "frozen", I will end this one.

The answer (a synonym for "prunes") is "cuts", which is mostly "stuc(k)" (frozen, as a nut or screw (for instance)), "sent back" (reversed).

Onward and upward.

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 01:31 AM
Well, since (incredibly and inexplicably to me) a search of Thesaurus.com did not turn up the word used in the solution as a synonym for "frozen", I will end this one.

The answer (a synonym for "prunes") is "cuts", which is mostly "stuc(k)" (frozen, as a nut or screw (for instance)), "sent back" (reversed).

Onward and upward.


Not easy, but certainly a good clue.
I golfed today, and am happy to see the solution. I was "stuck" but never thought to equate that with frozen....my golf game was too....on ice.:

Take a swing at these.....

Deficit admitted by company, American organization that's hugely powerful (8)

Arrogant if winning sympathy (6)

America is a revolutionary part of the world (4) Proper

Sounds like old man is a spouter (6)

Fiddle in plant (5)

nijinski
06-15-2011, 02:19 AM
Fiddle in plant (5) Viola ?

Overlay
06-15-2011, 06:43 AM
Sounds like old man is a spouter (6)
geezer (?)(except I don't think I've ever heard "geyser" pronounced that same way)

Well, after checking, I see that "geezer" is an apparently acceptable British pronunciation of "geyser", except that the dictionary entry said that "geyser" (when used in that sense) refers specifically to a hot-water heater, rather than to a hot spring that shoots water up from beneath the earth's surface (i.e., a spouter).

Overlay
06-15-2011, 07:03 AM
America is a revolutionary part of the world (4) Proper
Asia (bolded part above "revolutionary" (reversed))

Overlay
06-15-2011, 09:04 AM
Deficit admitted by company, American organization that's hugely powerful (8)

Arrogant if winning sympathy (6)
These two remain.

Ocala Mike
06-15-2011, 09:22 AM
Arrogant if winning sympathy (6)






winning = up
sympathy = pity


UPPITY is straight def. of arrogant.


Ocala Mike

Overlay
06-15-2011, 09:33 AM
Deficit admitted by company, American organization that's hugely powerful (8)
colossus (co. + loss + US)

Overlay
06-15-2011, 09:37 AM
Craves massages, from the sound of it (5)

Bent over to avoid flue, reportedly (6)

Stretch one leg at random (8)

Well-known craze around Maine (5)

Hinder full oxidation speed (9)

wisconsin
06-15-2011, 09:52 AM
Craves massages, from the sound of it (5)

Knead

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 11:40 AM
Yes. All :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: 5 of mine were successfully mastered.
Geyser was the correct answer, as the clue said "sounds like old man" (geezer.)

Well-known craze around Maine (5)

Straight definition = well-known

Wordplay:

craze = fad
Maine = me.

fa+me+d = FAMED (well-known (like myself or the Pope :lol: ))

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 11:46 AM
Hinder full oxidation speed (9)

Straight definition = hinder

Wordplay:

full contributes "f"
oxidation = rust
speed = rate

f+rust+rate = FRUSTRATE (hinder)

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 11:49 AM
Craves massages, from the sound of it (5)

Knead

Craves massages, from the sound of it (5)

I think wisconsin you are on the right track, but I would say:

Straight definition = craves

Wordplay:

massages = kneads

But it's not kneads, it sounds like kneads which is needs (a homophone).

toetoe
06-15-2011, 12:21 PM
Stretch ... elongate

toetoe
06-15-2011, 12:24 PM
Bent ... angled ???

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 12:39 PM
Bent over to avoid flue, reportedly (6)

Straight definition = bent over

Word play:

flue = duct

Solution is homophone of duct = DUCKED (bent over)

Overlay
06-15-2011, 12:53 PM
That's all of them.

Somewhat whiter, as a bleached kind of paper (8)

Lean piece of ham in can (4)

Something hunted in excavation site (6)

Top of tree containing salt (8)

Very involved in support stocking shortage (4-4)

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:36 PM
Bent ... ducked





Quack ... quack ... quack ...

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:38 PM
D'oh ... :blush:

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Lean ... thin

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:43 PM
Something ... quarry



Very ... knee-deep ?

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:46 PM
Top ... pinnacle

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:49 PM
Somewhat ... erasable



I like it. Van Nuys. :ThmbUp:

toetoe
06-15-2011, 01:57 PM
Craves massages, from the sound of it (5)

I think wisconsin you are on the right track, but I would say:

Straight definition = craves

Wordplay:

massages = kneads

But it's not kneads, it sounds like kneads which is needs (a homophone).



I must concur. The multiguity of the clue is somewhat straitened by the letter count. It's crucial.
When in doubt, bet :5: and bail out ... er sump'm.

P.S. Just who yew callin' a homophone, Sir ?

Overlay
06-15-2011, 02:57 PM
Retiring First Lady trains for what may preserve a record (6)

Commend college sports youth (4)

Lunatic split without one bit of nourishment (8)

Further top-grade acquisition (5)

Football team in the Spanish uniform (6)

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 03:10 PM
Football team in the Spanish uniform (6)

Straight definition = football team

Wordplay:

the (Spanish) = el
uniform = even

el+even = ELEVEN (the number of players on the field in football for a team.)

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 03:13 PM
Commend college sports youth (4)

Straight definition = commend

College = U (as in University)

youth = lad

college wearing youth around it =la+u+d = LAUD (commend)

toetoe
06-15-2011, 03:21 PM
Retiring ... sleeve

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 03:31 PM
Further top-grade acquisition (5)

Straight definition = further (as in developing or reiterating an idea)

Wordplay:

top grade = A
acquisition = gain

a+gain = AGAIN

toetoe
06-15-2011, 04:04 PM
Lunatic ... victuals ???

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 04:14 PM
Lunatic split without one bit of nourishment (8)

Straight definition = bit of nourishment

Wordplay:

lunatic = nut

split = rent
without one = in this instance implies one is needed
one = i

nut+r(i)ent = NUTRIENT (bit of nourishment)

Overlay
06-15-2011, 04:29 PM
You keep mowin' 'em down, so I'll keep puttin' 'em up:

Seinfeld's parody about hard rock (8)

Trying to avoid Henry VIII's last wife perishing headless (8)

Fellow splitting fruit with someone who loves food (8)

Turn away a claim on property near Ecuador's capital (8)

Sound of violent quakes (6)

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 04:40 PM
Just one for me.

Turn away a claim on property near Ecuador's capital (8)

Straight definiton = turn away

Wordplay:

a = a
claim on property = lien
near =at
Ecudor's capital = the first letter in Ecuador = e

a+lien+at+e = ALIENATE (turn away)


Well one more too:

Sound of violent quakes (6)

Straight definition = sound

Wordplay:
Puzzle setter is telling us that the letters in "quakes" are tossed around.
Doing that we arrive at the anagram SQUEAK.

Greyfox
06-15-2011, 07:29 PM
Well one more then. The clues left the first page of the board.

Fellow splitting fruit with someone who loves food (8)

Straight definition = someone who loves food

Wordplay:

fellow = man
fruit = gourd

fellow splitting fruit = gour+man+d = GOURMAND (a food lover)

These clues of Overlay's are still up for solving:

Seinfeld's parody about hard rock (8)

Trying to avoid Henry VIII's last wife perishing headless (8)

nijinski
06-16-2011, 12:28 AM
Seinfeld's parody about hard rock (8)

Spoofing??

toetoe
06-16-2011, 12:40 AM
Trying ... belaying ????

toetoe
06-16-2011, 12:48 AM
Pseudoscientific scare and bloody conflict in twilight. 6 and 7.

toetoe
06-16-2011, 12:50 AM
Seinfeld's ... feldspar ???

toetoe
06-16-2011, 12:51 AM
Trying ... essaying ???

toetoe
06-16-2011, 12:58 AM
Parrying ... :blush:

Overlay
06-16-2011, 01:17 AM
Seinfeld's ... feldspar ???
Parrying ... :blush:
That's all of mine.

Overlay
06-16-2011, 01:25 AM
Pseudoscientific scare and bloody conflict in twilight. 6 and 7.
global warming

Overlay
06-16-2011, 01:34 AM
What's inside satisfied (7)

Broadcast to air following "Happy Warrior" (9)

Planet reportedly rotated (5)

A couple of delegates breaking up wild form of national government (7)

Merchant wraps up right textbook (7)

toetoe
06-16-2011, 03:20 AM
What's inside satisfied (7)

Broadcast to air following "Happy Warrior" (9)

Planet reportedly rotated (5)

A couple of delegates breaking up wild form of national government (7)

Merchant wraps up right textbook (7)



Content

???

???

Federal

Speller

toetoe
06-16-2011, 03:22 AM
Planet ... world ... :blush:



As in whirled peas.

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 03:26 AM
Broadcast to air following "Happy Warrior" (9)

Straight definition = warrior

Wordplay:

happy = glad
to air = broadcast around = iator

glad + iator = GLADIATOR (warrior)

G' Night.

toetoe
06-16-2011, 03:31 AM
Broadcast to air following "Happy Warrior" (9)

Straight definition = warrior

Wordplay:

happy = glad
to air = broadcast around = iator

glad + iator = GLADIATOR (warrior)

G' Night.



Well done, Spartacus. :ThmbUp:

"I'm Spartacus."

"I'm Spartacus."

Et cetera ...

Overlay
06-16-2011, 06:48 AM
Rum spilled in work disturbance (7)

Spanish espresso bar's closing makes splash (8)

Machu Picchu Country's a bit of light reading (8)

Transportation Safety Administration charge upset tourist Ray Price (7,8)

Typical Vatican visitor, and an atypical Vatican visitor? (7)

Overlay
06-16-2011, 07:13 AM
Machu Picchu Country's a bit of light reading (8)

Correction to the above, as follows:

Machu Picchu Country's a bit of light reading (7)

Overlay
06-16-2011, 07:14 AM
Rum spilled in work disturbance (7)

Spanish espresso bar's closing makes splash (8)

Transportation Safety Administration charge upset tourist Ray Price (7,8)

Typical Vatican visitor, and an atypical Vatican visitor? (7)

Here are the rest of those clues, carried over to the new page.

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 10:40 AM
Correction to the above, as follows:

Machu Picchu Country's a bit of light reading (7)


7 LETTERS and that was after a correction from 8 ??? I can come up with one that sounds right that has 6.


PERUSE :confused: ?? I suppose PERUSES is 7.

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 11:50 AM
Spanish espresso bar's closing makes splash (8)

Straight definition = splash

Wordplay:

Spanish = sp
espresso = latte
bar's closing = last letter of bar = r

sp + latte + r = SPLATTER (splash)

Overlay
06-16-2011, 01:20 PM
7 LETTERS and that was after a correction from 8 ??? I can come up with one that sounds right that has 6.


PERUSE :confused: ?? I suppose PERUSES is 7.
Very close, but (as you yourself have noted many times) every word in the clue has significance. Try again.

Overlay
06-16-2011, 01:21 PM
SPLATTER (splash)
Right

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 01:21 PM
Very close, but (as you yourself have noted many times) every word in the clue has significance. Try again.

PERUSAL :jump:

Overlay
06-16-2011, 01:24 PM
Two down, three to go.

HuggingTheRail
06-16-2011, 02:26 PM
Rum spilled in work disturbance (7)



turmoil

straight def = disturbance

work = toil

the letters of r u m are "spilled in" toil

Overlay
06-16-2011, 03:58 PM
turmoil
Yes.

HuggingTheRail
06-16-2011, 05:57 PM
Transportation Safety Administration charge upset tourist Ray Price (7,8)


Airport Security

(anagram of tourist Ray Price)

Overlay
06-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Airport Security

(anagram of tourist Ray Price)
Correct.

Overlay
06-16-2011, 06:33 PM
This one left:

Typical Vatican visitor, and an atypical Vatican visitor? (7)

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 07:58 PM
Wild stab time.

Typical Vatican visitor, and an atypical Vatican visitor? (7)

Straight definition = atypical Vatican visitor

Wordplay:

typical Vatican visitor = theist

atypical Vatican visitor = a+ theist = ATHEIST ??

nijinski
06-16-2011, 08:52 PM
Typical vatican visitor- Servant ??

Overlay
06-16-2011, 09:45 PM
ATHEIST ??
Bingo! (except that the "typical Vatican visitor" would technically be "a theist" (instead of just "theist"), in order to preserve the word play)

Overlay
06-16-2011, 10:00 PM
Reserve the Orient Express for one entering a period of inactivity (9)

Michelin Guide evaluator mentioned hotel ghost (9)

Make Brian Rabin article "City of the Taj Mahal" the lead in magazine (7)

Fodor and Frommer, e.g., turned tide with choice words (7)

Exotic realm, say a Buddhist monks' residence (8)

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 10:14 PM
Reserve the Orient Express for one entering a period of inactivity (9)

Straight definition = reserve

Wordplay:

the Orient Express = train
period of inactivity = rest

res+train+t = RESTRAINT

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 10:18 PM
Exotic realm, say a Buddhist monks' residence (8)

Straight definition = a Buddhist monk's residence

Wordplay:

Puzzler tells us that the letters in "realm say" are different.

Anagram of r,e,a,l,m,s,a,y = Lamasery (a monastery for Buddhist monks)

G' Night all.

toetoe
06-16-2011, 10:29 PM
Make ... anagram ... as a verb ? :eek:

toetoe
06-16-2011, 10:30 PM
Fodor ... editors

toetoe
06-16-2011, 10:38 PM
Michelin ... inspector

Greyfox
06-16-2011, 10:42 PM
Make Brian Rabin article "City of the Taj Mahal" the lead in magazine (7)

I was going to watch the idiot box and spotted perhaps what is a coincidence in this clue.
I don't know who Brian Rabin is, but

Wordplay:

article = an
City of the Taj Mahal = Agra
the lead in magazine = first letter "m"

an+agra+m = Anagram

Is this a coincidence that the word "anagram" fits the wordplay?
I see toetoe hit on this before me, but how does Brian Rabin fit or is that an anagram too used as a pseudonym?

johnhannibalsmith
06-16-2011, 11:00 PM
...how does Brian Rabin fit ...?

Maybe I'm being dense and missing your true query here, but "Brian" can be rearranged anagram style to make "Rabin".

toetoe
06-17-2011, 12:21 AM
Make Brian Rabin is the definition: anagram in the form of a verb.

Greyfox
06-17-2011, 02:14 AM
Yes...I see it now. The penny dropped.

Back in the morning but night owls can try these:

Unstable deck ? (5,2,5)

Angry over crook bringing weapon (8)

Reprimanded, then became fond of the job (4,2,4)

Very protracted farewell (2,4)

Conclude, "I won't fire" (7)

nijinski
06-17-2011, 03:31 AM
Very protracted farewell (2,4)

So Long ?

Ocala Mike
06-17-2011, 09:04 AM
Unstable deck ? (5,2,5)

Angry over crook bringing weapon (8)





An unstable deck is a HOUSE OF CARDS

For the second one, angry = cross and crook can mean bend or bow; CROSSBOW is a weapon.


Ocala Mike

Greyfox
06-17-2011, 09:57 AM
Yes. nijinski said "So Long" (Don't go niji) was a protracted farewell and was correct. :ThmbUp:
Yes. Ocala Mike knew that House of Cards was a shakey proposition and anger over crook was a crossbow. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

Two more to go.

toetoe
06-17-2011, 10:48 AM
Reprimanded ... took to task

Greyfox
06-17-2011, 11:24 AM
Reprimanded ... took to task

Yes. toetoe :jump: took to task is the answer for:

Reprimanded, then became fond of the job (4,2,4)


**********************
This one is still left:

Conclude, "I won't fire" (7)

Overlay
06-17-2011, 12:00 PM
Conclude, "I won't fire" (7)
inferno

Greyfox
06-17-2011, 12:04 PM
inferno

"Yes!" :jump: Overlay nailed "inferno."

The clue was: Conclude, "I won't fire" (7)

Straight definition = fire

Wordplay:

conclude = infer
I won't = no

infer+no = inferno

Newer puzzle solvers should note that the letters for inferno were also in the clue in the words "I won't fire." But this wasn't an anagram as there was no suggestion to toss any of the other letters.

Greyfox
06-17-2011, 05:13 PM
Run carrying a specialized pack (5)

Polish symbol in stream (7) Proper

Reprimand puncher in boxing match (4,3)

Bishop and Joker aboard parade vehicle (9)

and here's one devoted to Huggingtherail although it's open to all:

Explorer up in truck shelter (9)

and here's one for Newer Solvers

General riding in llama cart hurt (9 Proper)

Greyfox
06-17-2011, 08:12 PM
Run carrying a specialized pack (5)

Polish symbol in stream (7) Proper

Reprimand puncher in boxing match (4,3)

Bishop and Joker aboard parade vehicle (9)

and here's one devoted to Huggingtherail although it's open to all:

Explorer up in truck shelter (9)

and here's one for Newer Solvers

General riding in llama cart hurt (9 Proper)

OOps. Correction. :blush: This one is Proper

and here's one devoted to Huggingtherail although it's open to all:

Explorer up in truck shelter (9) Proper

Overlay
06-17-2011, 08:25 PM
Reprimand puncher in boxing match (4,3)
bawl out

Overlay
06-17-2011, 10:40 PM
Run carrying a specialized pack (5)
tarot (t- + a + -rot)

Overlay
06-17-2011, 10:47 PM
Bishop and Joker aboard parade vehicle (9)
bandwagon (B (as in chess) + and + wag + on)

wisconsin
06-18-2011, 12:04 AM
General riding in llama cart hurt (9 Proper)


MacArthur

lla(ma + cart + hur)rt

Greyfox
06-18-2011, 12:37 AM
General riding in llama cart hurt (9 Proper)


MacArthur

lla(ma + cart + hur)rt

Yes.
Overlay has picked off 3 of mine, and could probably take the others with ease, I suspect. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: He's left them up for others.
(Overlay's justification is exactly as it should be. But for newbies,
a "wag" is a Joker, if you haven't already figured that out.)
Also a boxing match is a bout. An awl is a punch.
That is the answer to b(awl) out = bawl out.

Wisconsin, a newer solver also picked off the green clue,

lla(ma + cart + hur)rt General Mac Arthur.
and also justified it as well.
For a newer solver to be able to justify a cryptic, is huge.:jump: :jump:

Hint:
Paging Huggin' that clue was designed for you and whoever might have lost a big game recently. But it is open to anyone who thinks that they know the answer.