Barney Frank admits helping former Lover Get in Fannie

[JustRalph]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/26/rep-frank-admits-helping-ex-lover-land-job-fannie-mae/

[PaceAdvantage]

You should be writing headlines for the NY Post... :lol:

[benzer]

Barney Frank should have been thrown out of office a long time ago.

[benzer]

I agree that headline would be front page material.

[mostpost]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/26/rep-frank-admits-helping-ex-lover-land-job-fannie-mae/

Another contribution that accomplishes nothing but add to your total posts count.

In 1991, 20 years ago, Herb Moses applied for an entry level position at Fannie Mae. Apparently he listed Barney Frank as a reference. The Fannie Mae exec approached Frank, not the other way around. Seven years later when Moses left Fannie Mae he was assistant director of product initiatives. I'm not sure what that is but I don't think it qualifies as a top executive position. In fact product initiatives is not listed anywhere on the Fannie Mae website list of Executives.

If you don't like Frank's policy concerning Fannie Mae that is one thing. But to imply it had anything to do with a former lover working there is idiotic.

[PaceAdvantage]

You can rationalize away serious transgressions and abuse of power with the best of them...

[bigmack]

Seven years later when Moses left Fannie Mae he was assistant director of product initiatives. I'm not sure what that is but I don't think it qualifies as a top executive position. In fact product initiatives is not listed anywhere on the Fannie Mae website list of Executives.
Oh how I'd love to be a mouse in the corner watching you scouring the Fannie site looking for a listing for the Asst. Director of Product Initiatives. :jump:

[Tom]

You have a way with words, Ralph!:lol:

[cj's dad]

My God, your posts are becoming more liberal (if that's possible) by the day. Exactly how much of a socialist are you?? Were you born in Cuba ??

Another contribution that accomplishes nothing but add to your total posts count.

In 1991, 20 years ago, Herb Moses applied for an entry level position at Fannie Mae. Apparently he listed Barney Frank as a reference. The Fannie Mae exec approached Frank, not the other way around. Seven years later when Moses left Fannie Mae he was assistant director of product initiatives. I'm not sure what that is but I don't think it qualifies as a top executive position. In fact product initiatives is not listed anywhere on the Fannie Mae website list of Executives.

If you don't like Frank's policy concerning Fannie Mae that is one thing. But to imply it had anything to do with a former lover working there is idiotic.

[mostpost]

You can rationalize away serious transgressions and abuse of power with the best of them...

It was a freakin' entry level position.

[Tom]

If you don't like Frank's policy concerning Fannie Mae that is one thing. But to imply it had anything to do with a former lover working there is obvious.

FTFY

[johnhannibalsmith]

It was a freakin' entry level position.

Even Mosite can dream up excellent headlines for the story! :jump:

[PaceAdvantage]

IT DOESN'T MATTER!

[Tom]

Yes, he certainly is behind Barney today isn't he?

[mostpost]

My God, your posts are becoming more liberal (if that's possible) by the day. Exactly how much of a socialist are you?? Were you born in Cuba ??

By your definition an extreme one. By any sensible person's definition not at all.
I believe in capitalism, but not unregulated free markets. I think there are some functions that are best accomplished by non profits or quasi governmental bodies. I think society is best served when there is a balance of power between ownership and labor.

[TrifectaMike]

It was a freakin' entry level position.

That is what Lewinsky said.

Mike (Dr Beav)

[PaceAdvantage]

That is what Lewinsky siad.

Mike (Dr Beav)I came oh so close to putting that in my reply as well...

[Tom]

I think society is best served when there is a balance of power between ownership and labor.

Foolish idea.
The balance must always be between effort and reward.
Between risk and reward.
Between equity and reward.
Between contribution and value added.

See the common thread here?

Until you contribute to the pie, you don't get a piece of it.

Labor is transient and plentiful.
Ownership is permanent and hard to come by.

Any damn fool can wash dishes in a diner. Owning a diner takes so much more. The dishwasher is only worth what the cheapest one will work for.
Paying more than that is foolish. If you could buy sugar for $10 a sack, would you pay $15 for it?

In the real world, there is no difference between an unskilled worker and a supply item.

[JustRalph]

Foolish idea.
The balance must always be between effort and reward.
Between risk and reward.
Between equity and reward.
Between contribution and value added.

See the common thread here?

Until you contribute to the pie, you don't get a piece of it.

Labor is transient and plentiful.
Ownership is permanent and hard to come by.

Any damn fool can wash dishes in a diner. Owning a diner takes so much more. The dishwasher is only worth what the cheapest one will work for.
Paying more than that is foolish. If you could buy sugar for $10 a sack, would you pay $15 for it?

In the real world, there is no difference between an unskilled worker and a supply item.

Great Post............ :ThmbUp:

[newtothegame]

Seems Mr Frank has been helping alot of people as of late......

Fed Gave Banks $80 Billion in Secret Loans…At Rates As Low As 0.01% Interest

Posted on May 26, 2011 at 8:44am

In April, Bloomberg News revealed (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/guess-who-benefited-most-from-feds-discount-loan-program-foreign-banks/) that foreign banks were the biggest recipients of the Fed’s discount loan program during the height of the financial crisis. And if foreign banks getting emergency cash wasn’t bad enough, Bloomberg has uncovered another absurdity from the recession-era financial markets: it’s now estimated that the Fed dolled out $80 billion in secretive loans to banks, and some locked in interest rates as low as 0.01 percent.
The loan program is called single-tranche open- market operations, or ST OMO. Bloomberg explains (“The Fed was slamming the pedal to the metal in the lender-of-last-resort category,”) what went down:

The $80 billion initiative, called single-tranche open- market operations, or ST OMO (http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo/dmm/historical/tomo/search.cfm), made 28-day loans from March through December 2008, a period in which confidence in global credit markets collapsed after the Sept. 15 bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.

Units of 20 banks were required to bid at auctions for the cash. They paid interest rates as low as 0.01 percent that December, when the Fed’s main lending facility charged 0.5 percent.

more at the link.....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fed-gave-banks-80-billion-in-secret-loans-at-rates-as-low-as-0-01-interest/

[HUSKER55]

IT IS NOT REAL SEX !


SO THE DEMS TELL US.

[newtothegame]

A snippet from the story above....

"And it also found that the Dodd-Frank financial overhaul overlooked the program entirely:
Congress overlooked ST OMO when lawmakers required the central bank to publish its emergency lending data last year under the Dodd-Frank (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4173enr.txt.pdf) law."

[mostpost]

Foolish idea.
The balance must always be between effort and reward.
I put in the effort to cook for your diner and you refuse to reward me.
Between risk and reward.
Taking a risk does not entitle you to a reward. You are only entitled to a reward-no you are never entitled to a reward. You have to earn it.
Between equity and reward.
Are you saying that equity (a financial stake) is the only way to earn a reward?
Between contribution and value added.
If I cook for your diner, if I wash dishes, if I wait tables I am making a contribution, I am adding value.

See the common thread here?
Yeah, the common thread is that you refuse to acknowledge the value of labor to an enterprise. That value exists whether you realize it or not.

Until you contribute to the pie, you don't get a piece of it.
Money is not the only way to contribute. You don't throw flour and water and apples and etc. into a bowl and get an apple pie. You need someone who knows how to make a pie.

Labor is transient and plentiful.
Ownership is permanent and hard to come by.
Thousands of businesses fail every year. Thousands of businesses are started every year. Sounds neither permanent nor hard to come by to me.

Any damn fool can wash dishes in a diner. Owning a diner takes so much more. The dishwasher is only worth what the cheapest one will work for.
Paying more than that is foolish. If you could buy sugar for $10 a sack, would you pay $15 for it?

In the real world, there is no difference between an unskilled worker and a supply item.
You equate a human being with a item on a shelf? If a five year old was falling off a cliff and a bag of money was falling at the same time I am sure you would rescue the money.

[newtothegame]

It was a freakin' entry level position.

That Frank ADMITTED to using his clout to gain his lover ex lover whatever a job! It's an abuse of power no matter how you slice it!

[mostpost]

IT IS NOT REAL SEX !


SO THE DEMS TELL US.

I think that idea is not limited to democrats. It is fairly prevalent among younger people. It always seemed real to me.

[benzer]

You equate a human being with a item on a shelf? If a five year old was falling off a cliff and a bag of money was falling at the same time I am sure you would rescue the money.
This is just plain bs, no matter who you directed it at.

[mostpost]

That Frank ADMITTED to using his clout to gain his lover ex lover whatever a job! It's an abuse of power no matter how you slice it!
It would be an abuse if power if Frank had made reference to his committee position and said or intimated that his decisions would be colored by whether his friend got the job. All he did was answer a question initiated by the Fannie Mae exec. There was no abuse of power. There is no evidence that any congressional action was influenced by the hiring. There was no change in Frank's position on Fannie Mae. He was always in favor of liberal loan policies. He was always opposed to stricter oversight, Argue with those views if you must, but stop trying to find a scandal where none exists.

[newtothegame]

You equate a human being with a item on a shelf? If a five year old was falling off a cliff and a bag of money was falling at the same time I am sure you would rescue the money.

The balance must always be between effort and reward.
I put in the effort to cook for your diner and you refuse to reward me.
You are too easy Mosty....your reward is YOUR PAY that was agreed upon for those services upon your condition of employment


Between risk and reward.
Taking a risk does not entitle you to a reward. You are only entitled to a reward-no you are never entitled to a reward. You have to earn it.
Ok. So can you please name us a reward that you get without taking a risk??

Between equity and reward.
Are you saying that equity (a financial stake) is the only way to earn a reward?
No, there are different types of rewards with different amounts for those rewards.
Between contribution and value added.
If I cook for your diner, if I wash dishes, if I wait tables I am making a contribution, I am adding value.
And again, your "added value" is being compensated for under your conditions of employment to which YOU agreed to upon your being hired.

See the common thread here?
Yeah, the common thread is that you refuse to acknowledge the value of labor to an enterprise. That value exists whether you realize it or not.

No, he is not refusing to see it. YOU are refusing to accept what the market dictates as a suitable reward. You have an option to leave if you do not like the reward (even though you previously agreed to).
Until you contribute to the pie, you don't get a piece of it.
Money is not the only way to contribute. You don't throw flour and water and apples and etc. into a bowl and get an apple pie. You need someone who knows how to make a pie.
Again, market dictated what that pie maker is worth...not some back door negotiations whereby a union holds a company hostage, threatening boycotts or strikes.

Labor is transient and plentiful.
Ownership is permanent and hard to come by.
Thousands of businesses fail every year. Thousands of businesses are started every year. Sounds neither permanent nor hard to come by to me.
Ok, if this is the case, then why cry when you feel your being treated "unfairly" ?? Why not just go get another of those many jobs your referring to that start every year?

Any damn fool can wash dishes in a diner. Owning a diner takes so much more. The dishwasher is only worth what the cheapest one will work for.
Paying more than that is foolish. If you could buy sugar for $10 a sack, would you pay $15 for it?

In the real world, there is no difference between an unskilled worker and a supply item.

The bolding black type above is mosty's response...red are mine...thanks :D

[mostpost]

Seems Mr Frank has been helping alot of people as of late......

Fed Gave Banks $80 Billion in Secret Loans…At Rates As Low As 0.01% Interest

Posted on May 26, 2011 at 8:44am

In April, Bloomberg News revealed (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/guess-who-benefited-most-from-feds-discount-loan-program-foreign-banks/) that foreign banks were the biggest recipients of the Fed’s discount loan program during the height of the financial crisis. And if foreign banks getting emergency cash wasn’t bad enough, Bloomberg has uncovered another absurdity from the recession-era financial markets: it’s now estimated that the Fed dolled out $80 billion in secretive loans to banks, and some locked in interest rates as low as 0.01 percent.
The loan program is called single-tranche open- market operations, or ST OMO. Bloomberg explains (“The Fed was slamming the pedal to the metal in the lender-of-last-resort category,”) what went down:

The $80 billion initiative, called single-tranche open- market operations, or ST OMO (http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/omo/dmm/historical/tomo/search.cfm), made 28-day loans from March through December 2008, a period in which confidence in global credit markets collapsed after the Sept. 15 bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.

Units of 20 banks were required to bid at auctions for the cash. They paid interest rates as low as 0.01 percent that December, when the Fed’s main lending facility charged 0.5 percent.

more at the link.....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fed-gave-banks-80-billion-in-secret-loans-at-rates-as-low-as-0-01-interest/



Explain how Barney Frank has anything to do with this. Before you do that you might want to read up on the Federal Reserve System.

[newtothegame]

It would be an abuse if power if Frank had made reference to his committee position and said or intimated that his decisions would be colored by whether his friend got the job. All he did was answer a question initiated by the Fannie Mae exec. There was no abuse of power. There is no evidence that any congressional action was influenced by the hiring. There was no change in Frank's position on Fannie Mae. He was always in favor of liberal loan policies. He was always opposed to stricter oversight, Argue with those views if you must, but stop trying to find a scandal where none exists.

So, why could the guy not gain the employement without Barney? We will never know. As for Frank making referrence to his position...c'mon. get real. Do you not think that everyone in Fannie knows who frank is?? Your really stretching here mosty....
He ADMITTED to using his clout......
That's all that needs to be said...ABUSE OF POWER TO GAIN FAVOR!

[benzer]

It would be an abuse if power if Frank had made reference to his committee position and said or intimated that his decisions would be colored by whether his friend got the job. All he did was answer a question initiated by the Fannie Mae exec. There was no abuse of power. There is no evidence that any congressional action was influenced by the hiring. There was no change in Frank's position on Fannie Mae. He was always in favor of liberal loan policies. He was always opposed to stricter oversight, Argue with those views if you must, but stop trying to find a scandal where none exists.
The whole Fannie thing has been a joke, both parties know it and so does Barny Franks.

[mostpost]

The balance must always be between effort and reward.
I put in the effort to cook for your diner and you refuse to reward me.
You are too easy Mosty....your reward is YOUR PAY that was agreed upon for those services upon your condition of employment


Between risk and reward.
Taking a risk does not entitle you to a reward. You are only entitled to a reward-no you are never entitled to a reward. You have to earn it.
Ok. So can you please name us a reward that you get without taking a risk??

Between equity and reward.
Are you saying that equity (a financial stake) is the only way to earn a reward?
No, there are different types of rewards with different amounts for those rewards.
Between contribution and value added.
If I cook for your diner, if I wash dishes, if I wait tables I am making a contribution, I am adding value.
And again, your "added value" is being compensated for under your conditions of employment to which YOU agreed to upon your being hired.

See the common thread here?
Yeah, the common thread is that you refuse to acknowledge the value of labor to an enterprise. That value exists whether you realize it or not.

No, he is not refusing to see it. YOU are refusing to accept what the market dictates as a suitable reward. You have an option to leave if you do not like the reward (even though you previously agreed to).
Until you contribute to the pie, you don't get a piece of it.
Money is not the only way to contribute. You don't throw flour and water and apples and etc. into a bowl and get an apple pie. You need someone who knows how to make a pie.
Again, market dictated what that pie maker is worth...not some back door negotiations whereby a union holds a company hostage, threatening boycotts or strikes.

Labor is transient and plentiful.
Ownership is permanent and hard to come by.
Thousands of businesses fail every year. Thousands of businesses are started every year. Sounds neither permanent nor hard to come by to me.
Ok, if this is the case, then why cry when you feel your being treated "unfairly" ?? Why not just go get another of those many jobs your referring to that start every year?

Any damn fool can wash dishes in a diner. Owning a diner takes so much more. The dishwasher is only worth what the cheapest one will work for.
Paying more than that is foolish. If you could buy sugar for $10 a sack, would you pay $15 for it?

In the real world, there is no difference between an unskilled worker and a supply item.

The bolding black type above is mosty's response...red are mine...thanks :D

I am not going to answer your points individually. I am just going to say that Tom overvalues the contributions of a businesses owner and undervalues the contributions of a businesses workers.
ETA: And so do you.

[benzer]

I am not going to answer your points individually. I am just going to say that Tom overvalues the contributions of a businesses owner and undervalues the contributions of a businesses workers.
ETA: And so do you.
I've not seen that in any posts here. Can you tell us how you arrive at this conclusion?

[PhantomOnTour]

'Bout time the rest of the country caught on to this nepotism/help your friends thing....it's been par for the course here in Louisiana for as long as I can remember.

[ElKabong]

Hi kids, let's play 'Spot The Low Level Government Employee' game in this thread.....Who's going to guess first?!

[ElKabong]

'Bout time the rest of the country caught on to this nepotism/help your friends thing....it's been par for the course here in Louisiana for as long as I can remember.

Thanks for the offer, but the rest of the nation doesn't want to be like Louisiana. :)

[bigmack]

mosty been on a Google class of late.

Lesson 284:

New search... Democrats expressing concern over Franken's admission.

[PhantomOnTour]

Thanks for the offer, but the rest of the nation doesn't want to be like Louisiana. :)
Awwww, lighten up Francis.

[lamboguy]

i know you guys probably don't like barney frank, i don't agree with hardly any his stands for or does or behaves. but this guy has been rated in the past as one of the better congressman to serve. i really could care less if a guy claims to be a conservetive or a liberal. to me that is only a way to fool the followers. unfortunately i know i am right on this one. but what i am trying to bring out is if barney frank is supposed to be one of the better congessman in business, imagine what a bad one looks like?

this is basically the reason why gold is going to $1600 and probably alot higher than what i possibly could ever imagine.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by mostpost
I am not going to answer your points individually. I am just going to say that Tom overvalues the contributions of a businesses owner and undervalues the contributions of a businesses workers.

No, that is what the MARKET is for. YOUR value is not what you think it is, but what someone is willing to pay for it.

I do not value a shelf item over a human, but the key to this is, and feel free to take notes, mostie, the humans have the option of making themselves more valuable. If my job comes down me and another guy, you can bet your ass I will find a way to make myself more valuable than him.

[NJ Stinks]

This must be some kind of a joke. According to the article, the guy who got the job with Fannie Mae "graduated with a master's degree in business administration from Dartmouth..."

The article would have been somewhat interesting if Barney somehow managed to prevent this guy from getting an entry-level job at Fannie Mae.

[newtothegame]

This must be some kind of a joke. According to the article, the guy who got the job with Fannie Mae "graduated with a master's degree in business administration from Dartmouth..."

The article would have been somewhat interesting if Barney somehow managed to prevent this guy from getting an entry-level job at Fannie Mae.

So as asked earlier...why would barney need to "use his clout"?
I mean, this IS what Frank said he done...!

[NJ Stinks]

So as asked earlier...why would barney need to "use his clout"?
I mean, this IS what Frank said he done...!

He didn't need to use his clout. It's a big-to-do about nothing brought to us by the leader in slanted news.

[ElKabong]

Awwww, lighten up Francis.

Aww, I certainly did, Phrancis. Thus the smiley face emoticon.

Hugs,
.

[newtothegame]

He didn't need to use his clout. It's a big-to-do about nothing brought to us by the leader in slanted news.

NJ....let me help with comprehension if I may......
There is a HUGE difference in whether or not he NEEDED too or if he ACTUALLY DID.
No one really knows whether he NEEDED to or not, except Barney.
And his actions (and ADMISSION) that he USED his clout says that obviously barney felt he NEEDED too.

Now if you can't see the difference in that....well I obviously can't help ya!
Ever heard of the term "favor"...?
This is what is wrong in politics.......
By Barney using his clout, the other person involved could be held to a favor in return. Not saying it would be done...but it COULD be done. Thats why its UNETHICAL!

[bigmack]

Silly little tale deserving of little in the way of attn...

But heck; it's BARNEY! Barney is a hoot.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/barney-frank-1.jpg

Order up a '62 Ford Fairlane, a shot-out radio, and a 4 state roadtrip with Barn. Laugh your ars off... Ask him about American Samoa the entire way. :D

2MszfkyOl8w

[JustRalph]

He didn't need to use his clout. It's a big-to-do about nothing brought to us by the leader in slanted news.

After four years on this board I would have thought by now that you would have figured out by now that very often I start a thread just for fun and sit back and watch.

Other times it's double the fun when I come up with a thread title like this one. Lighten up........ The news story was secondary ........you really think I was outraged by this? Get real...........

[newtothegame]

Explain how Barney Frank has anything to do with this. Before you do that you might want to read up on the Federal Reserve System.

Nope, I dont need to read up on the federal reserve system.......
Maybe you shopuld look into the frand dodd bill a alittle deeper....
I seem to see an oversight committee who oversaw this. The story reads ""And it also found that the Dodd-Frank financial overhaul overlooked the program entirely:
Congress overlooked ST OMO when lawmakers required the central bank to publish its emergency lending data last year under the Dodd-Frank (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4173enr.txt.pdf) law."


If your willing to go look up the bill, you will find that the bill required a " financial stability oversight council" (it consist of ten voting members).

One of those members is the FHFA....Now i know somewhere I seem to recall that...umm...Fannie and Freddie are directly under this FHFA. Hmmm as I said...seems Frank would of known about this as I am sure your not trying to tell me Frank has nothing to do with fannie or Freddie...are you????

[ElKabong]

Silly little tale deserving of little in the way of attn...

But heck; it's BARNEY! Barney is a hoot.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/barney-frank-1.jpg

Order up a '62 Ford Fairlane, a shot-out radio, and a 4 state roadtrip with Barn. Laugh your ars off... Ask him about American Samoa the entire way. :D

2MszfkyOl8w

That youtube vid was awesome. BendOverBarney is always good for a laugh out of his incompetence and lack of communicative skills

[mostpost]

NJ....let me help with comprehension if I may......
There is a HUGE difference in whether or not he NEEDED too or if he ACTUALLY DID.
No one really knows whether he NEEDED to or not, except Barney.
And his actions (and ADMISSION) that he USED his clout says that obviously barney felt he NEEDED too.

Now if you can't see the difference in that....well I obviously can't help ya!
Ever heard of the term "favor"...?
This is what is wrong in politics.......
By Barney using his clout, the other person involved could be held to a favor in return. Not saying it would be done...but it COULD be done. Thats why its UNETHICAL!
Every day, all across the country, job seekers use recommendations from people of influence to secure employment. Teachers, clergy, former bosses, friends all are asked by employers about potential employees. Sometimes those being asked are important people in the community. That is what occurred here. There is nothing to this whole story. The fact that you are obsessed by it speaks volumes-about you.

[mostpost]

No, that is what the MARKET is for. YOUR value is not what you think it is, but what someone is willing to pay for it.
No, because that puts all the power on one side of the equation. You said yourself "Why buy a bag of flour for $15 when you can get it for $10?" That tells me that what you are willing to pay for labor is not as much as that labor is worth.

If I think it is worth $6 an hour to wash dishes in your diner and you think it is worth $3 an hour, what makes your opinion more valid. After all you already said that you are going to try to get the service as cheaply as you can, not as fairly as you can.

And don't give me that carp about free markets. The free markets sets the lowest common denominator. The free market works only when there is competition. If we have five diners in an area and 15 men looking for work as dishwashers the free market will depress wages not inflate them.

It doesn't matter competition wise if all the diners are paying $6 an hour or $3 an hour, but no diner owner will voluntarily pay the $6 even though that may be the fair price.

[mostpost]

That youtube vid was awesome. BendOverBarney is always good for a laugh out of his incompetence and lack of communicative skills

You don't even realize what this video is about of what was happening on the floor of the House that day. Barney did and he dealt with it very effectively.

I will explain it to you, although I doubt you will get it even then. The Democrats were in control of Congress (as should always be the case.) They were trying to pass funding for embryonic stem cell research. The Republicans, being the anti science little twits they are, were trying to block the funding. Not having enough votes they were resorting to delaying tactics like offering foolish amendments and asking parliamentary inquiries that were not parliamentary inquiries.

There was a fool in the video, but it was not Barney Frank.

[mostpost]

After four years on this board I would have thought by now that you would have figured out by now that very often I start a thread just for fun and sit back and watch.

Other times it's double the fun when I come up with a thread title like this one. Lighten up........ The news story was secondary ........you really think I was outraged by this? Get real...........

So, what are the results of your little game? The libs here think it was no big deal, a waste of space. The cons are outraged. Barney Frank should be thrown out of office. (Benzer) It's unethical (Newtothegame)
You can rationalize away serious transgressions and abuse of power with the best of them...(PaceAdvantage)

.ABUSE OF POWER TO GAIN FAVOR! (Newtothegame)

Maybe you did start it to have fun, but your con buddies took it very seriously.

[newtothegame]

Every day, all across the country, job seekers use recommendations from people of influence to secure employment. Teachers, clergy, former bosses, friends all are asked by employers about potential employees. Sometimes those being asked are important people in the community. That is what occurred here. There is nothing to this whole story. The fact that you are obsessed by it speaks volumes-about you.

LOL obsessed.....not hardly. I didnt get into this thread till ost twenty or so. Personally I could care less. This is hardly news considering franks past with Fannie and freddie.
I am just saying dont tell me its "nothing", when in fact it is "something".
I truly do not care if he got his mother a job with threats. Point is though, positions of power, when used improperly, can create sticky situations........
(In his case, he, like other politicians, should try to avoid them).
As to the obsession comment......you sure are trying to defend the guy alot for somone else to be "obsessed".......
:lol:

[newtothegame]

No, because that puts all the power on one side of the equation. You said yourself "Why buy a bag of flour for $15 when you can get it for $10?" That tells me that what you are willing to pay for labor is not as much as that labor is worth.
No, it says he is willing to pay WHATEVER the parket dictates. He does not set his own price.....

If I think it is worth $6 an hour to wash dishes in your diner and you think it is worth $3 an hour, what makes your opinion more valid. After all you already said that you are going to try to get the service as cheaply as you can, not as fairly as you can.

His opinion is made more valid by the other employers who hire dishwashers.....MARKET driven!

And don't give me that carp about free markets. The free markets sets the lowest common denominator. The free market works only when there is competition. If we have five diners in an area and 15 men looking for work as dishwashers the free market will depress wages not inflate them.
Lowest common denominator??? THATS BS. If people werent willing to work for it, the price would go up till they would work.....its called a MARKET lol.

It doesn't matter competition wise if all the diners are paying $6 an hour or $3 an hour, but no diner owner will voluntarily pay the $6 even though that may be the fair price.

It's nice to know everytime you go to the store and your grocery bill is hypothetically 100.00 dollars you actually give them 200.00.......
Sure ya do!! :bang:
See, YOU are part of the problem, yet you blame the systm and other people so you can sleep at night!!! Nice try though Mosty! :faint:

[newtothegame]

[/B]

So, what are the results of your little game? The libs here think it was no big deal, a waste of space. The cons are outraged. Barney Frank should be thrown out of office. (Benzer) It's unethical (Newtothegame)
You can rationalize away serious transgressions and abuse of power with the best of them...(PaceAdvantage)

.ABUSE OF POWER TO GAIN FAVOR! (Newtothegame)

Maybe you did start it to have fun, but your con buddies took it very seriously.

And you are in this thread as deep as anyone.......so what does that say????
Mosty leads everyone in this thread with TWELVE post...and were obsessed...p.s I only have ELEVEN :lol:

[bigmack]

I will explain it to you, although I doubt you will get it even then. The Democrats were in control of Congress (as should always be the case.) They were trying to pass funding for embryonic stem cell research. The Republicans, being the anti science little twits they are, were trying to block the funding. Not having enough votes they were resorting to delaying tactics like offering foolish amendments and asking parliamentary inquiries that were not parliamentary inquiries.

There was a fool in the video, but it was not Barney Frank.
Speaking of fools, you again missed the point. After passing their minimum wage legislation the Washington Times noted that that Speaker Pelosi exempted hometown companies from minimum wage increases by passing legislation that excluded American Samoa. Her husband is reported to be a major stockholder in Del Monte, one of the hometown companies in question.

You see it dealt with the arrogant, continued cronyism of NanPelosi & Co.

Who's gets flustered easier; you, Ed Wynn or Barn?

[Tom]

Why is it that the libs are always so damned huffy about the good legislation that gets passed but not a one of them has a word to say when they dole out exemption after exemption in every case?

I think libs prefer to feel good rather than actually do good.
I offer mostie as evidence of this.

[ElKabong]

You don't even realize what this video is about of what was happening on the floor of the House that day. Barney did and he dealt with it very effectively.

I will explain it to you, although I doubt you will get it even then. The Democrats were in control of Congress (as should always be the case.) They were trying to pass funding for embryonic stem cell research. The Republicans, being the anti science little twits they are, were trying to block the funding. Not having enough votes they were resorting to delaying tactics like offering foolish amendments and asking parliamentary inquiries that were not parliamentary inquiries.

There was a fool in the video, but it was not Barney Frank.

:lol:

I don't know which is funner...Barney tripping over his mouth in that vid, or your off based, winbagged reply.

:lol:

[toetoe]

Silly little tale deserving of little in the way of attn...

But heck; it's BARNEY! Barney is a hoot.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/barney-frank-1.jpg

Order up a '62 Ford Fairlane, a shot-out radio, and a 4 state roadtrip with Barn. Laugh your ars off... Ask him about American Samoa the entire way. :D

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Does he know where that cigar's been ? :eek:

[toetoe]

The Democrats were in control of Congress (as should always be the case.)



At least you're openminded, and demanding of the very best. :lol:

[bigmack]

At least you're openminded, and demanding of the very best. :lol:
Dig it. SP was on a bike and is now rollin' via souped-up Dog. Greyhound, ya beast.

She has officially 'clunked' Billy Richardson of "iT's a choice" fame :D with "I lova the smell of emissions."

Think Billy Duval, circa Apocalypse, then go 180. :eek:

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[toetoe]

Solid work by Peter "Rockin' Chair" Doocy. Look for him on TVG soonly.

Please tell me Auntie Sarah rides sidesaddle. Those nasty tea enthusiasts will shoot the Klondike every time. :eek:

[toetoe]

Hey, I just got the thread --- lets friend in fannie. :D



Careful, girlfriend. He's Barney "Ballpark" Frank. Plumps when ya poke 'im.



Mack,

I saw your latest postage through my e-mail on my phone. Where'd it go ? Didjew do a Toetoe ? I saw nothing objectionable, but what do I know ?

[toetoe]

No, because that puts all the power on one side of the equation. You said yourself "Why buy a bag of flour for $15 when you can get it for $10?" That tells me that what you are willing to pay for labor is not as much as that labor is worth.

If I think it is worth $6 an hour to wash dishes in your diner and you think it is worth $3 an hour, what makes your opinion more valid. After all you already said that you are going to try to get the service as cheaply as you can, not as fairly as you can.

And don't give me that carp about free markets. The free markets sets the lowest common denominator. The free market works only when there is competition. If we have five diners in an area and 15 men looking for work as dishwashers the free market will depress wages not inflate them.

It doesn't matter competition wise if all the diners are paying $6 an hour or $3 an hour, but no diner owner will voluntarily pay the $6 even though that may be the fair price.




This is your most terrifying post yet. :eek:

[JustRalph]

Is that Steve "goofballs" Doocy's Kid?

I don't watch Fox much anymore? How long has he been on Fox?