Keep a eye on Astrology this summer.

[Casino]

Credit given to Shackleford,Ak,but watching the replay Astrology is a horse you may one to kep your eye on!

[forced89]

Agree. I liked him a lot in the Preakness and had him WPS. I made a couple of bucks on him just on the Show money. I don't know what he would have paid to Place but it sure would have been nice if he could have held on.

[OTM Al]

I will as well to bet against him. He is a very well bred money burner.

[serp]

I think he's a good horse but it might be hard to find good prices on him now.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Loved him to be part of it in the Preakness 'cause I thought he was set for a peak effort, but I was very disappointed he could get to Shackleford.:( Fortunately, I had some dough on him across the board. He's going to have to improve some more, or learn to get past horses and get to the front.

Otherwise, he'll continue to be a money-burner, at least for the win slot.

Animal Kingdom now gets my vote as "best in crop".

[calltopost]

I think he's a lot like Nehro, the other hot Asmussen horse. That WPS paid for me as well.

[Cardus]

Credit given to Shackleford,Ak,but watching the replay Astrology is a horse you may one to kep your eye on!

Once Jaycito returns, you'll forget all about this one.

[Casino]

[QUOTE=Cardus]Once Jaycito returns, you'll forget all about this one.[/QUOTE

]

Jaycito if healthy had as good a chance as any horse that ran in the derby.Jaycito he will win his share of stakes races this summer.

[elysiantraveller]

[QUOTE=Cardus]Once Jaycito returns, you'll forget all about this one.[/QUOTE

]

Jaycito if healthy had as good a chance as any horse that ran in the derby.Jaycito he will win his share of stakes races this summer.

:lol:

[Casino]

[QUOTE=Casino]

:lol:

Dont hide in the summer,some here loved Dialed In and others loved Uncle Mo,now thats funny:lol: :lol:

[Casino]

[QUOTE=Casino]

:lol: you posted this prior to the derby:lol:

Dialed In... he's beaten everyone in this crop he has faced. Getting no love on here. :confused:

[elysiantraveller]

Then I called him a plodder.

You might be right and I may eat crow but until them I'm :lol: my ass off at that!

Don't take it too seriously...

[Casino]

Then I called him a plodder.

You might be right and I may eat crow but until them I'm :lol: my ass off at that!

Don't take it too seriously...


heres one better i bet midnite interlude in both derby and preakness hasnt been a very good mon of may.:lol:

[Casino]

I will as well to bet against him. He is a very well bred money burner.

Why is he a money burner?

lost his first race of the year in Sunland ran a good second after a 3 month layoff.
ran 2nd in the Jerome to Adios Charlie whos turning out to be a top 3 year old.
and 3rd in the Preakness lost the race by 2 lenghts.
won the iroquois stakes at Cd last year, ran 2nd in th gardenia stakes to sweet ducky.

Whats a money burner,a horse who loses races when he goes of the favorite?Astrology imo isnt a money burner,
Dialed In is a money burner doesnt run a lick keeps burning money.

[OTM Al]

Why is he a money burner?

lost his first race of the year in Sunland ran a good second after a 3 month layoff.
ran 2nd in the Jerome to Adios Charlie whos turning out to be a top 3 year old.
and 3rd in the Preakness lost the race by 2 lenghts.
won the iroquois stakes at Cd last year, ran 2nd in th gardenia stakes to sweet ducky.

Whats a money burner,a horse who loses races when he goes of the favorite?Astrology imo isnt a money burner,
Dialed In is a money burner doesnt run a lick keeps burning money.

He's a favorite five times and second favorite twice and has won only twice. Money burner.

[Casino]

He's a favorite five times and second favorite twice and has won only twice. Money burner.
the public makes him the favorite?doesnt mean very much ?only 33% of the time the public gets it right,ever heard of a bad favorite?

[OTM Al]

the public makes him the favorite?doesnt mean very much ?only 33% of the time the public gets it right,ever heard of a bad favorite?

Yeah. This horse every single time.

[Casino]

Yeah. This horse every single time.

Bad favorites arent money burners.

[OTM Al]

Bad favorites arent money burners.

They burn more than anyone else in the field by definition. Bet him if you want. It's your money.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Keeping an eye out for him.

The "money burner" is back Saturday night (6/25) in the 8th Race at Prairie Meadows - the $250K Iowa Derby at a mile and 1/16th on dirt.

http://www.drf.com/race-entries/PRM/USA/2011-06-25/D/8

He's ( :5: ) entered against seven others, is the M/L favorite at 9/5, and with his effort in the Preakness finishing behind Shacky and Animal Kingdom, he'll probably go off at 6/5. He's worked okay at CD since the Run for the Black-eyed Susans.

I like this spot for him, except it may not be his best distance, and he won't be much value - except to bet against. If this horse is ever going to be a top 3YO, he needs to show more heart and learn how to get past horses in the lane and win.

So, love him or hate 'em, get yer wallet out to vote for or against this blue blood. I'll probably just watch the race, so I can cheer him to a 7 length romping win or GROAN and watch him hang and run second by a neck.....:cool:

[OTM Al]

Keeping an eye out for him.

The "money burner" is back Saturday night (6/25) in the 8th Race at Prairie Meadows - the $250K Iowa Derby at a mile and 1/16th on dirt.

http://www.drf.com/race-entries/PRM/USA/2011-06-25/D/8

He's ( :5: ) entered against seven others, is the M/L favorite at 9/5, and with his effort in the Preakness finishing behind Shacky and Animal Kingdom, he'll probably go off at 6/5. He's worked okay at CD since the Run for the Black-eyed Susans.

I like this spot for him, except it may not be his best distance, and he won't be much value - except to bet against. If this horse is ever going to be a top 3YO, he needs to show more heart and learn how to get past horses in the lane and win.

So, love him or hate 'em, get yer wallet out to vote for or against this blue blood. I'll probably just watch the race, so I can cheer him to a 7 length romping win or GROAN and watch him hang and run second by a neck.....:cool:

That's a race about his speed. Might manage to win, but not with my money...kinda like Caleb's Posse though....

[Spiderman]

I liked Astrology to run 2nd in Preakness. He had dead aim, no excuse and could not gain. He is in where he belongs, a G3 at Prairie Meadows.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Now having 'capped the race, it looks like Astrology should handle this field unless he's become a true sucker horse. I suspect a bridge jumper or two could play him, since he's 8 for 8 lifetime on the board, and facing the easiest field so far this year. I forgot about him finishing ahead of Ruler On Ice at Sunland - I predict 6/5 or even money at post time, since his running style suits the track much better than Caleb's Posse - his main competition.

Probably going to pass the race.

[skipaway100]

Of all the underperforming Triple Crown horses, Pants On Fire is the one I would keep an eye out on.

[toetoe]

At what should be a great price, I will be all over Dreaminofthewin ... but that's just me.

[Robert Fischer]

TONIGHT Race 8 Prarie Meadows
FREE past performances:jump: http://mysite.verizon.net/whobet/trks2day.html (http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/baffert_262232.pdf)

[cj's dad]

I'm betting the #8
Calebs Posse-

$20 WPS and $5 exacta under all

[Valuist]

Of all the underperforming Triple Crown horses, Pants On Fire is the one I would keep an eye out on.

Yeah cause he might bleed thru Lasix again.

[toussaud]

this horse burns more money than MC Hammer

[OTM Al]

this horse burns more money than MC Hammer

Yep. Maybe more.

[Tom]

It wasn't in the stars tonight.

[Robert Fischer]

It wasn't in the stars tonight.

future is cloudy...
On one viewing looked like he stopped badly

[Mineshaft]

Lets see the horse had 4 official works since May 30th. Talk about taking all the energy out of a horse before he even runs. Plus this was his 5th race since in 3 months. I think the horse is fit dont you think. He cant get any fitter.

I bet this horse works in 10-14 days.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

future is cloudy...
On one viewing looked like he stopped badly

I wonder if he bled? Money burner indeed. Not only was he 1-2 to win, but he had 63% of the show pool on him.....

Sad, very sad effort. Even though he was wide, he shouldn't have just packed it in like that....

[OTM Al]

Looks like our favorite money burner is headed to the Haskell. Going to have the Belmont Stakes winner, Da Jazelmeyer on Ice, or whatever his name was, running too. See the potential for a big score here....

[Spalding No!]

Looks like our favorite money burner is headed to the Haskell. Going to have the Belmont Stakes winner, Da Jazelmeyer on Ice, or whatever his name was, running too. See the potential for a big score here....

Astrology has got to be in everyone's doghouse off that last race. Coupled with all his wilting bridesmaid efforts, there should be some major backlash here.

15-1 or higher I would predict.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Lets see the horse had 4 official works since May 30th. Talk about taking all the energy out of a horse before he even runs. Plus this was his 5th race since in 3 months. I think the horse is fit dont you think. He cant get any fitter.

I bet this horse works in 10-14 days.

You were close. Astrology worked Monday (7/11) at Saratoga, 5 furlongs in a blistering 1:03.67.

The Haskell? Apparently he's been forgiven for his Iowa Derby effort....but.....if he's okay physically, he actually might offer a smidge of value like he did in the Preakness....

[OTM Al]

Astrology has got to be in everyone's doghouse off that last race. Coupled with all his wilting bridesmaid efforts, there should be some major backlash here.

15-1 or higher I would predict.

Hard to say. This horse kept getting touted early in the year even though he'd never even cracked an 80 on the BSF scale. One would think this should happen, but people are fixated on him for some reason and can see many saying we should just draw a line through the Iowa Derby. I am hoping the trend continues, but we shall see.

[Robert Fischer]

looked like the type with a high cruising speed @ a distance of ground but now he's not so hot

[Mineshaft]

You were close. Astrology worked Monday (7/11) at Saratoga, 5 furlongs in a blistering 1:03.67.

The Haskell? Apparently he's been forgiven for his Iowa Derby effort....but.....if he's okay physically, he actually might offer a smidge of value like he did in the Preakness....





Take all the energy out of him Steve hes a total toss for me

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Take all the energy out of him Steve hes a total toss for me

Then you'll be happy to know that Astrology kept to his normal Monday workout routine, working another 5 furlongs today at the Spa in 102.52...

I don't know if he's tapping out all his energy or not, as it's my understanding that each horse needs a tailored schedule to get to peak form. But there will be plenty of players that draw a line through the Iowa Derby, and look for him to be a part of the Haskell finish....

[Mineshaft]

Then you'll be happy to know that Astrology kept to his normal Monday workout routine, working another 5 furlongs today at the Spa in 102.52...

I don't know if he's tapping out all his energy or not, as it's my understanding that each horse needs a tailored schedule to get to peak form. But there will be plenty of players that draw a line through the Iowa Derby, and look for him to be a part of the Haskell finish....






not me. if he beats me he beats me

[Patrick333]

Saratoga7/25/11 Dirt training 4F51.31BreezingRank 34/44 (http://www.equibase.com/static/workout/SAR072511USA-EQB.html)

[Casino]

Astrology is sitting on a huge race in a very weak Haskell.

[Spalding No!]

Astrology is sitting on a huge race in a very weak Haskell.

I like the blinkers off on Coil and the switch to dirt, particularly on a speed-oriented surface. He gets one more chance to be a monster.

If he wins I hope Baffert makes a run at the 3yo Eclipse in the Travers, but something tells me the Indiana Derby is in the cards for this colt one way or the other.

[OTM Al]

9/2 on the ML making him the 5th choice on that measure. What does that say about the other entrants...

[redshift1]

My favorite rider Leparoux picks up the mount on Astrology but in a year of crazy results I'll be astonished if Astrology wins.

[Valuist]

I think Ruler on Ice will be a good go-against. Very sloppy track in last; oddball distance. A conventional 9 furlong race on a dry track may pose problems for him. I will be surprised if Astrology is 5th choice. He made a nice move in the Preakness. Not sure if he (or anyone) really wanted to be inside on that day at Pimlico.

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Looking over this field for the Haskell, I suspect the connections of Stay Thirsty may very feel like they're about $300K short if they'd run here (assuming they got an invitation).

This race doesn't appear to offer much value, but if Astrology looks good on the track, he might muster a third place finish again. But since it looks like Shackleford and Ruler on Ice also look like they will be there, I'm not sure how to make money in the race.

For those fans of "The Sheets", there's a nice write up on the race out on thoroughbredtimes.com - they lean towards JJ's Lucky Train as the value, considering this crop of 3YOs doesn't have any superstars.....to say the least.

[Tom]

Shackleford, Joe Van and Pants on Fire for me.

[OTM Al]

I'm for Pants as well but Shack should be game. Just think JJ may cause some issues for Shack on the front end though. No interest in Joe Vann after seeing how the winner of his last (who I bet....) did yesterday.

[gm10]

Not sure what happened at Prairie, but for me Astrology is one of the better 3yo's and 9/2 looks like a bit of value. Shack isn't an easy one to beat, though.
Also interested to see what the Breen tactics will be.

[Tom]

Better 3 yos?
No wins this year.
Even the garbage has all won one race.

[gm10]

8/1 on Betfair. That's my bet.

[Mineshaft]

stick a fork in this horse hes a total mess


Astrology that is

[Tom]

Unexpected race....gotta give Shack credit - he sill dug in and tried late.
Horse has heart.

Nice call Casino! I gave the horse no shot at all.

[Casino]

Tom,turf next for Astrology.

[Tom]

Always something next for him.




Where does Finger Lakes fit in his schedule? We run high 80 Beyers here, he would be at home.:rolleyes:

[OTM Al]

stick a fork in this horse hes a total mess


Astrology that is

Been saying this all spring. Maybe this time it finally sinks in....

[Hoofless_Wonder]

Maybe Mineshaft is right, and Asmussen has been over-training this mule. They way he's run his last two races, I'm not sure Astrology could win a NW2X at Fairmount, let alone that classier facility Finger Lakes. I'm never impressed when a trainer can't come up with at least a guess as to why his horse didn't run well, and now Mr. Asmussen has two bad races to explain.:(

Hopefully he gets a vacation now....

[toussaud]

they are running him like they are trying to get lucky in a grade 1 and retire him to stud.

[Mineshaft]

I bet this horse works in 10 days

[Cardus]

I kept an eye on Astrology yesterday... but only one eye, as the other was needed to watch the stretch duel many lengths ahead of him.

[Tom]

If you want to watch the winners and Astrology, you need letterbox TV.

[turninforhome10]

they are running him like they are trying to get lucky in a grade 1 and retire him to stud.
Bingo

[toussaud]

i'm seriously trying to figure out how this horse of all horses has the longest triple crown thread going. this is baffling to me.

[NYPlayer]

i'm seriously trying to figure out how this horse of all horses has the longest triple crown thread going. this is baffling to me.

Me too.

[Casino]

I was wrong about this horse,thought he was a better.Im banking hes going to try the turf,and maybe just maybe turn it around.:rolleyes:

[PhantomOnTour]

I was wrong about this horse,thought he was a better.Im banking hes going to try the turf,and maybe just maybe turn it around.:rolleyes:
He was my Haskell pick

[Hoofless_Wonder]

i'm seriously trying to figure out how this horse of all horses has the longest triple crown thread going. this is baffling to me.

Since the Triple Crown finished up, he's one of the few 3YO's that's just kept on working and racing - which is probably why he's thrown clunkers in the last two.

Had him as a future Derby bet, bet him in the Preakness (including a small show bet that cashed), and have watched in disbelief as Asmussen is apparently diminishing his value by 50% with each outing....

[Spalding No!]

Since the Triple Crown finished up, he's one of the few 3YO's that's just kept on working and racing - which is probably why he's thrown clunkers in the last two.

Yeah, aside from Shackleford, Ruler On Ice, Stay Thirsty, Brilliant Speed, Pants On Fire, Midnight Interlude, Prime Cut, etc.

Had him as a future Derby bet, bet him in the Preakness (including a small show bet that cashed), and have watched in disbelief as Asmussen is apparently diminishing his value by 50% with each outing....

Diminishing value? He's a Grade 3 winner who, before his two most recent "clunkers", lost a stakes to a maiden and couldn't win at Sunland Park. At what point was he ever valuable?

[Cardus]

I can't believe y'all are still talking about Astronomy.