View Full Version : Da Bulls Vs Heat...I took Bulls in 6.....
Hanover1
05-13-2011, 01:02 PM
Title says it all.....comments? (Wager has already been placed-deal or no deal?)
sonnyp
05-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Title says it all.....comments? (Wager has already been placed-deal or no deal?)
just an opinion......heat win this series
Robert Goren
05-13-2011, 01:27 PM
Title says it all.....comments? (Wager has already been placed-deal or no deal?)At what odds?
slew101
05-13-2011, 01:28 PM
I'll take the Heat in 6 games, but if Chicago can get a big series from Boozer, they have a very good shot.
slew101
05-13-2011, 01:29 PM
Chicago is +150 for the series, Miami is -170.
I think if you wait, you'll get a better price on the Bulls before Sunday. Public money likely on Miami.
At what odds?
sonnyp
05-13-2011, 01:37 PM
I'll take the Heat in 6 games, but if Chicago can get a big series from Boozer, they have a very good shot.
if the heat continue to play good defense, derrick rose can't take the games over and i don't see boozer being effective.
lebron is playing well, but d. wade is the best and the heart and soul of that team.
Bettowin
05-13-2011, 02:31 PM
Does anyone think that Lebron would have been better off going to the Bulls instead of the Heat? I think the Bulls have a much better cast of supporting players and in the long run I would rather have Rose than Wade.
mostpost
05-13-2011, 03:29 PM
Does anyone think that Lebron would have been better off going to the Bulls instead of the Heat? I think the Bulls have a much better cast of supporting players and in the long run I would rather have Rose than Wade.
My question is would the Bulls be better off? The answer would be yes IF Lebron would be willing to play within the Bulls system. I don't mean that he would need to play second fiddle to Rose, but he could not be the whole show as he was in Cleveland. He could not be the point forward.
I also would rather have Rose than Wade, in the long run and the short run.
mostpost
05-13-2011, 03:33 PM
Title says it all.....comments? (Wager has already been placed-deal or no deal?)
Sounds good to me. Bulls have to play their best. Rose needs to not do too much. Playing like last night would be ideal. Defense is the key and the Bulls are very good at team defense. Heat have yet to show the can beat the Bulls. (0-3)
Hanover1
05-13-2011, 03:36 PM
After looking at the odds, and the bench play of both teams last out, I arrived at the choice-did get +150. Don't expect much of a move.
Being the East, neither had to beat much to get where they are. The Bulls played two teams that wouldn't make the playoffs in the West. The Heat played a mediocre though improving Sixers team and an old team that made a bad trade or two and had a one-armed point guard the last three games. They didn't dominate either one.
All in all, I'd say it is 50/50 so nothing wrong with betting on the dog.
mostpost
05-13-2011, 04:51 PM
Being the East, neither had to beat much to get where they are. The Bulls played two teams that wouldn't make the playoffs in the West. The Heat played a mediocre though improving Sixers team and an old team that made a bad trade or two and had a one-armed point guard the last three games. They didn't dominate either one.
All in all, I'd say it is 50/50 so nothing wrong with betting on the dog.
Bulls 5 and 1 against the remaining West teams. Don't count your Thunderchickens before they're hatched. :D
Valuist
05-13-2011, 05:00 PM
Bulls are hard to figure on a game to game basis. But one thing about them; as unimpressive as they have looked in the playoffs, they've only allowed 100 pts twice in the playoffs, and one of those was exactly 100.
sonnyp
05-13-2011, 05:01 PM
Bulls 5 and 1 against the remaining West teams. Don't count your Thunderchickens before they're hatched. :D
and don't take individual regular season matchups as an indicator of the playoffs lol
Bulls 5 and 1 against the remaining West teams. Don't count your Thunderchickens before they're hatched. :D
That isn't what I was saying at all. I was just pointing out that both teams are a little tough to judge right now. The Thunder still have to get past Memphis.
The top two are certainly as good as anyone in the West. They also have a much easier path to reach the finals, both regular season and playoffs. Memphis was the 8 seed in the West, Indy in the East...nuff said.
Canarsie
05-13-2011, 06:17 PM
Throw out the regular season this will be determined in half court slight edge to the Bulls.
The Heat have 2 great players to the Bulls one. Edge to the Heat.
So my hunch for what its worth is that the bench will decide who wins the series. Someone from either side can get hot for a game that should be the determining factor. If Udonis Haslem becomes a force that would be huge for the Heat. Also Boozer played great in game 6 don't think Spoelstra isn't breaking down tape of that and the first five games he played.
If the Bulls hold serve the first two games they will have the edge. If Miami breaks through they win in 6.
If I was betting no way would I take the Heat that is too much to lay for a team that doesn't have the home court advantage.
thaskalos
05-13-2011, 08:02 PM
Chicago is +150 for the series, Miami is -170.
I think if you wait, you'll get a better price on the Bulls before Sunday. Public money likely on Miami.
The public always falls in love with the "hot" team...but successful sports betting is a little more complicated than that.
Just because the Heat had a great series against the Celtics does not mean that their regular season woes should be readily dismissed.
The Bulls are capable of playing MUCH better than they have shown in the playoffs so far...and I think they will win the series in seven!
slew101
05-14-2011, 12:33 PM
Odds have moved for series price.
Miami -200
Bulls +170
JeremyJet
05-14-2011, 04:16 PM
I think it's silly that the Bulls are not favored in the series against the Heat. But this is good because the Bulls will have a chip on their shoulder. They keep proving everyone wrong and will continue to do so. I look forward to a Bulls vs. Thunder NBA Finals.
sonnyp
05-14-2011, 04:22 PM
Odds have moved for series price.
Miami -200
Bulls +170
and the bulls have home court. heat are strong in te public's eye
JeremyJet
05-14-2011, 05:00 PM
and the bulls have home court. heat are strong in te public's eye
It seems as if some people have fallen victim to [short attention span theater]. The last time the Heat played the Bulls, the Bulls made them cry. :(
Regards,
JeremyJet
sonnyp
05-14-2011, 06:26 PM
It seems as if some people have fallen victim to [short attention span theater]. The last time the Heat played the Bulls, the Bulls made them cry. :(
Regards,
JeremyJet
meaningless in the playoffs, though
Hanover1
05-15-2011, 10:11 PM
Halfway thru the 4th...Bulls by 15....Yeessss!
Hanover1
05-15-2011, 10:32 PM
Wowser!.... by 21!
If the Bulls win G2, it is over. I bet sports about twice a year, and this was one of the two.
Hanover1
05-15-2011, 10:55 PM
If the Bulls win G2, it is over. I bet sports about twice a year, and this was one of the two.
I refuse to discuss how deep I went to the well on this one.......
Valuist
05-16-2011, 12:40 PM
meaningless in the playoffs, though
Apparently not last night. When it mattered, it turned into an ass kicking.
How about Taj Gibson posterizing D-Wade?
magwell
05-16-2011, 01:38 PM
The Heat's 3 weak spots were exposed by the Bulls.... point guard, center and bench, now the Heat must win 4 of 6 and that will be extremely tough......BTW I'm a heat fan.......and I'm not happy.....
JeremyJet
05-16-2011, 02:58 PM
How about Taj Gibson posterizing D-Wade?
Somewhat reminiscent of Pippen dunking on Patrick Ewing.
maddog42
05-16-2011, 02:59 PM
The Heat's 3 weak spots were exposed by the Bulls.... point guard, center and bench, now the Heat must win 4 of 6 and that will be extremely tough......BTW I'm a heat fan.......and I'm not happy.....
I was impressed with Chicago D, maybe best in the league.
Hanover1
05-16-2011, 03:55 PM
I was impressed with Chicago D, maybe best in the league.
And can come off the bench for the occasional 3........they stay poised, its champagne time. I'm gonna ride this one all the way to the poor house...
magwell
05-19-2011, 12:09 AM
Heat has them on the run now..........Haslem was the spark......I'm happy now. :)
slew101
05-19-2011, 10:47 AM
Long way to go in this series. Miami did a lot of things better in Game 2, but they still go through those ruts where everyone stands around on offense. Haslem did give them a big lift.
Chicago played a terrible game, shot awful and still was tied with 4 minutes left.
Heat has them on the run now..........Haslem was the spark......I'm happy now. :)
magwell
05-19-2011, 11:05 AM
Long way to go in this series. Miami did a lot of things better in Game 2, but they still go through those ruts where everyone stands around on offense. Haslem did give them a big lift.
Chicago played a terrible game, shot awful and still was tied with 4 minutes left. Agree 100% but Heat needed that game like plasma, Bulls probably "bounced" off the big game whipping they put on the Heat......;)
slew101
05-19-2011, 11:47 AM
And how can the NBA justify Game 3 not until Sunday night? Teams will be off 4 frecking days. Why don't they stretch the season to July 4th?
Agree 100% but Heat needed that game like plasma, Bulls probably "bounced" off the big game whipping they put on the Heat......;)
Canarsie
05-19-2011, 12:33 PM
And how can the NBA justify Game 3 not until Sunday night? Teams will be off 4 frecking days. Why don't they stretch the season to July 4th?
Friday is a notorious bad ratings night they do this all the time. Not that I agree with it but it's all about the money. A few years ago the first round was spread out so long it was pathetic at least they improved upon that.
Hockey doesn't draw squat in ratings they can go every two days.
Not much of a TV watcher but my hunch there are no hit shows aired on a Friday or Saturday night.
redshift1
05-19-2011, 01:34 PM
The last quarter reminded me of the NCAA final game, 24 total points.
JeremyJet
05-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Really disappointed in the performance of one Derrick Rose. He's the MVP and the leader of the Bulls. He has to play better than what he showed in game 2. You look for a guy of that stature to take over when the game was tied at 73. The game was there for the taking. I don't know if it's what the Heat are doing to him, or if he just had an off night, but you just look for more from your leader. That was a frustrating game last night if you're a Bulls fan. :bang:
Canarsie
05-19-2011, 03:31 PM
Really disappointed in the performance of one Derrick Rose. He's the MVP and the leader of the Bulls. He has to play better than what he showed in game 2. You look for a guy of that stature to take over when the game was tied at 73. The game was there for the taking. I don't know if it's what the Heat are doing to him, or if he just had an off night, but you just look for more from your leader. That was a frustrating game last night if you're a Bulls fan. :bang:
Everyone's banged up his time of the year but I think Rose has a minor injury that's more serious. Some of his shots from the perimeter were short if he was amped up they would be long or a shade wide. A player who is as good as he is shouldn't miss easy shots driving the lane unless he compensating for something especially when no foul was being called. I'm sure Spoelstra and company will be looking at tape to expose any weakness if that's the case. Lebron was even guarding him in the fourth quarter didn't hear them say anything on tv.
headhawg
05-19-2011, 03:35 PM
I couldn't have said it any better JJ. The MVP seemed to be the Most Disinterested Player on the court. Not sure why; it's only the conference finals. (Maybe it is the injury.)
Also, while Thibodeau won coach of the year, he still has a lot to learn about making changes during the game. The Kyle Korver experiment is not working. He is not hitting his shots and is an extreme liability on defense. If your shooter is not going to make shots then Bogans should be playing because at least you will get some defense. Forcing Rose to cover Wade and then because of switches having Korver on Queen James...well, that's not going to work. There's sticking to your plan, and then there's being pig-headed -- with blinders. Thibodeau really needs to "see" the game and act accordingly.
elysiantraveller
05-19-2011, 04:29 PM
Really disappointed in the performance of one Derrick Rose. He's the MVP and the leader of the Bulls. He has to play better than what he showed in game 2. You look for a guy of that stature to take over when the game was tied at 73. The game was there for the taking. I don't know if it's what the Heat are doing to him, or if he just had an off night, but you just look for more from your leader. That was a frustrating game last night if you're a Bulls fan. :bang:
The game was taken over by the "real" MVP of the league LeBron James.
headhawg
05-19-2011, 06:10 PM
The game was taken over by the "real" MVP of the league LeBron James.Like he did in Game 1? Or against the Celtics last year? :rolleyes:
elysiantraveller
05-19-2011, 06:20 PM
Like he did in Game 1? Or against the Celtics last year? :rolleyes:
I thought that was a good pot-stirrer. :)
In all fairness to the Celtics last season look at how bad the Cavs are.
magwell
05-23-2011, 01:25 AM
Bulls are really on the run now......I'm still happy ....:jump:
Hanover1
05-23-2011, 05:01 PM
Feel like I'm circling the drain.......
Valuist
05-23-2011, 05:53 PM
The game was taken over by the "real" MVP of the league LeBron James.
Rose had a better season than James. Wade is a future Hall of Famer. Boozer and Noah will never even be on a HoF ballot, let alone get in.
headhawg
05-23-2011, 05:55 PM
Bulls are really on the run now......I'm still happy ....:jump:Well, the series is only 2-1 so your happiness may still be premature. I picked the Heat in 6 even though I'm a Bulls fan, but I also said to friends that if they could play four games like the last one against Atlanta they would win. So far only Game 1 has resembled the close-out game vs. the Hawks.
Bettowin
05-24-2011, 08:30 PM
Under 90 1/2 for the first half tonight.
elysiantraveller
05-24-2011, 11:34 PM
Rose looked great tonight in the 4th... :lol:
magwell
05-25-2011, 12:46 AM
Heat tried to give the Bulls the game and they wouldnt take it..... so I'm still happy..:jump:
slew101
05-25-2011, 12:22 PM
Agreed. Miami played in spurts like it usually does. Miller was huge and Bosh hit some big shots.
Chicago's last possession in regulation was brutal. Don't understand why Rose didn't at least try to penetrate and kick out to Boozer or another shooter for an open look. A fadeaway against James was not the answer there.
Heat tried to give the Bulls the game and they wouldnt take it..... so I'm still happy..:jump:
Hanover1
05-25-2011, 12:51 PM
Not going to lose my vacation because of this beatdown. I just won't be able to eat......
Casino
05-25-2011, 01:35 PM
Rose looked great tonight in the 4th... :lol:
There has only been 2 point guards that were superstars to win a title in the last 30 years Magic and Isiah.
Rose gets doubled team AT THE TOP OF THE KEY,unheard off.He needs another star.
magwell
05-25-2011, 01:46 PM
As much as Bron doesnt want to play the point, when he does and brings the ball up the court he's in charge and the whole game changes, shades of Magic back in the day......:cool:
JeremyJet
05-27-2011, 12:01 AM
It seems as if some people have fallen victim to [short attention span theater]. The last time the Heat played the Bulls, the Bulls made them cry. :(
Regards,
JeremyJet
The Bulls could use that box of kleenex right about now. Wow, what a way to lose. :(
magwell
05-27-2011, 09:09 AM
Thats was a sloppy, ugly, win but still made me happy.:jump:.......NEXT
Robert Goren
05-27-2011, 09:48 AM
Is it me or are a lot teams choking this year?
slew101
05-27-2011, 10:29 AM
It's the pattern in the NBA for years. Young teams have to lose in the playoffs before they learn to win. I thought all playoffs Chicago and OKC were a year away from being in the Finals.
Series price is Miami -190 to Dallas +165. Miami with home court.
I'd lean Dallas at that price. I still don't like the way the Heat are playing sometimes despite being 12-3 in the playoffs.
Is it me or are a lot teams choking this year?
ElKabong
05-28-2011, 11:48 AM
It's the pattern in the NBA for years. Young teams have to lose in the playoffs before they learn to win. I thought all playoffs Chicago and OKC were a year away from being in the Finals.
Series price is Miami -190 to Dallas +165. Miami with home court.
I'd lean Dallas at that price. I still don't like the way the Heat are playing sometimes despite being 12-3 in the playoffs.
Taking Dallas would be a ballzy bet, but it takes some to win. I hope you cash.
Imo if Dallas were to beat Miami it would be the biggest nba finals upset in my lifetime, or rememberance. I go back to the Russell- Chamberlain- Big O days. I don't like the mavs but i'll hold my nose and pull for em a bit.
Thats was a sloppy, ugly, win but still made me happy.:jump:.......NEXT
I honestly don't know how anyone could root for that team. It is like a pick up game at the gym where all the good players play on the same team and pick on the short, slow guys. Sure, they're good, but who really cares?
headhawg
05-28-2011, 07:14 PM
It's the pattern in the NBA for years. Young teams have to lose in the playoffs before they learn to win. I thought all playoffs Chicago and OKC were a year away from being in the Finals.I agree but the window is not very big. The problem with the Bulls is that they don't have a two guard who can score, and Boozer is really bad. I don't know how Paxson/Foreman keep skating with their pathetic contract negotiations and free agent signings. Boozer for four more years at the money he's getting? A joke. And the Bulls would be absolutely horrible if they didn't luck into Rose. (And how can we forget the D'Antoni screw-up that led to Vinnie Del Negro as coach. Ugh.)
What would be interesting (although likely a dream) is getting Dwight Howard from Orlando. It would likely have to be something like Noah, Boozer, and Gibson for Howard and Arenas with his awful contract. Probably not going to happen, but if the Lakers keep Bynum as they say, Howard would have to find another near ready-to-win team which the Bulls are.
magwell
05-28-2011, 08:06 PM
I honestly don't know how anyone could root for that team. It is like a pick up game at the gym where all the good players play on the same team and pick on the short, slow guys. Sure, they're good, but who really cares? Not for nothing, but If you lived in Miami you wouldnt ask that question.....
Not for nothing, but If you lived in Miami you wouldnt ask that question.....
I wouldn't be so sure.
elysiantraveller
05-28-2011, 09:50 PM
Taking Dallas would be a ballzy bet, but it takes some to win. I hope you cash.
Imo if Dallas were to beat Miami it would be the biggest nba finals upset in my lifetime, or rememberance. I go back to the Russell- Chamberlain- Big O days. I don't like the mavs but i'll hold my nose and pull for em a bit.
The Pistons? Thrashing a healthy Kobe and Shaq in 2004?
magwell
05-28-2011, 10:40 PM
Lakers reload for Kobe with Gasal and Artest not a problem... Celtics reload for Pierce with Garnett and Allen no problem..... Heat does it for Wade and they are the villians of the NBA .....:rolleyes:
headhawg
05-28-2011, 11:23 PM
Neither the Lakers or Celtics had a guy who had his own made-for-tv special when they put their team together. The Heat are a bunch of drama queens. Garnett and Kobe would have slapped the crap out of Lebron if they were his teammate.
ElKabong
05-29-2011, 12:18 AM
Neither the Lakers or Celtics had a guy who had his own made-for-tv special when they put their team together. The Heat are a bunch of drama queens. Garnett and Kobe would have slapped the crap out of Lebron if they were his teammate.
Nail hit on the head, above.
When Cliff Lee signed w/ the Phils the guys on MLB Network interviewed players for responses...quite a few veiled comments of how they respected him for not 'pulling a lebron' and how they respected how he handled his decision.
"Drama Queens" is right
Canarsie
05-29-2011, 08:30 AM
Lakers reload for Kobe with Gasal and Artest not a problem... Celtics reload for Pierce with Garnett and Allen no problem..... Heat does it for Wade and they are the villians of the NBA .....:rolleyes:
None of those other teams had a one hour show on ESPN or a pre season ceremony. How many other teams had one of their stars predict 7 NBA titles? Don't you think that has a lot to do with it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYe8B--jrbs
None of those other teams had a one hour show on ESPN or a pre season ceremony. How many other teams had one of their stars predict 7 NBA titles? Don't you think that has a lot to do with it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYe8B--jrbs
Not to mention the Celtics and Lakers were put together by management, not by the players colluding with each other and taking pay cuts to put together a super team. I'm not denying they are great players (well, Bosh is good), but nobody really cares outside of the phony Miami fans who were nowhere to be found the last few years.
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