Dick Cheney:Enhanced Interrogation!

[Casino]

Otherwise know as waterboarding played a major part in finding bin laden.

[ElKabong]

Yes it did.

also...Some days down the road after all the high fivin is done, Eric Holder will be a man on an island. He's been telling America for 2-3 yrs that these radical Islamic terrorists are worthy of a criminal trial. His boss, by approving this commando killing of OBL basically neuters Holder. You don't hunt down "criminals" by flying heli's in the dark of night, in a foreign country halfway around the world, kill your target.....This action is reserved for an enemy of the nation.

Job well done. Eric Holder, take a (back)seat

[Dave Schwartz]

Mr. K-Bong,

I must respectfully disagree. When people put themselves above any form of laws and justice drastic measures are, IMHO, acceptable.

I mean, really... it's not like Bin Laden was denying his actions, was it?


Dave

[bigmack]

INteresting read:

When one of Osama bin Laden's most trusted aides picked up the phone last year, he unknowingly led U.S. pursuers to the doorstep of his boss, the world's most wanted terrorist.

That phone call, recounted Sunday by a U.S. official, ended a years-long search for bin Laden's personal courier, the key break in a worldwide manhunt. The courier, in turn, led U.S. intelligence to a walled compound in northeast Pakistan, where a team of Navy SEALs shot bin Laden to death.

The violent final minutes were the culmination of years of intelligence work. Inside the CIA team hunting bin Laden, it always was clear that bin Laden's vulnerability was his couriers. He was too smart to let al-Qaida foot soldiers, or even his senior commanders, know his hideout. But if he wanted to get his messages out, somebody had to carry them, someone bin Laden trusted with his life.

In a secret CIA prison in Eastern Europe years ago, al-Qaida's No. 3 leader, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, gave authorities the nicknames of several of bin Laden's couriers, four former U.S. intelligence officials said. Those names were among thousands of leads the CIA was pursuing.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13512344

[PaceAdvantage]

Speaking of Cheney, man, has he lost some weight. Hope he did it purposefully because of his heart condition.

[ElKabong]

Mr. K-Bong,

I must respectfully disagree. When people put themselves above any form of laws and justice drastic measures are, IMHO, acceptable.

I mean, really... it's not like Bin Laden was denying his actions, was it?


Dave

Dave,

My post pointed out that Holder's stance on holding criminal trials, is not in line with his boss' recent hit on Obama (one that I agree fully with). Thus my "man on an island" comment. All along Holder has treated these terrorists / enemies of the US as mere criminals, worthy of a trial.

Obama didn't get a trial. He didn't deserve one. Neither does KSM or dozens or hundreds others. They're ALL our enemy. Holder needs to back off this "criminal court" shit and fall in line w/ the rest of the US

[Tom]

I hope we see a line item for "buckets and boards" in the next military budget.

Noting is out of bounds when it come to interrogation of a terrorist. Nothing.

[PaceAdvantage]

Dave,

My post pointed out that Holder's stance on holding criminal trials, is not in line with his boss' recent hit on Obama (one that I agree fully with). Thus my "man on an island" comment. All along Holder has treated these terrorists / enemies of the US as mere criminals, worthy of a trial.

Obama didn't get a trial. He didn't deserve one. Neither does KSM or dozens or hundreds others. They're ALL our enemy. Holder needs to back off this "criminal court" shit and fall in line w/ the rest of the USIt appears that you, Norah O'Donnell and the late Ted Kennedy have much in common.... :eek:

APx2YJ-_jos

[Greyfox]

Dave,

Obama didn't get a trial. He didn't deserve one. Neither does KSM or dozens or hundreds others. They're ALL our enemy. Holder needs to back off this "criminal court" shit and fall in line w/ the rest of the US

Huh? Typo??

[newtothegame]

Mr. K-Bong,

I must respectfully disagree. When people put themselves above any form of laws and justice drastic measures are, IMHO, acceptable.

I mean, really... it's not like Bin Laden was denying his actions, was it?


Dave

KSM hasnt denied his actions either...so I am not following your point Dave??

[ElKabong]

Dave,

OSama didn't get a trial. He didn't deserve one. Neither does KSM or dozens or hundreds others. They're ALL our enemy. Holder needs to back off this "criminal court" shit and fall in line w/ the rest of the US

obvious correction....excuse my Norah O'donnell moment....

[Dave Schwartz]

Well, apparently it is me who misunderstood. Sorry.

I thought he was saying that Bin Laden should not have been taken as he was.

Personally, I do not have it in me to actually celebrate the death of another human being. However, I certainly recognize that the world is a better place without this one. It is not like he did not deserve death (or worse).



Dave

[FantasticDan]

obvious correction....excuse my Norah O'donnell moment....You mean moments.. twice in this thread, and earlier in this one:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82685&page=4&pp=15

Maybe you should stick to Bin Laden. :p

[bigmack]

I hope we see a line item for "buckets and boards" in the next military budget. :lol: :lol:

Always a pleasure doin' bidness with ya.

[Greyfox]

Well, apparently it is me who misunderstood. Sorry.

I thought he was saying that Bin Laden should not have been taken as he was.

Personally, I do not have it in me to actually celebrate the death of another human being. However, I certainly recognize that the world is a better place without this one. It is not like he did not deserve death (or worse).



Dave

:ThmbUp: Well said. I agree 100 %. It is unfortunate that bin Laden earned that fate.:ThmbUp:

[Tom]

Bin Laden was sot in the face.
Cheney must have been involved somehow!

[Secretariat]

Otherwise know as waterboarding played a major part in finding bin laden.

Not sure where you got that information. I assume you are referring to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_hunt_for_bin_laden

But, according to the AP article on this.

"Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation, they said, leaving it once again up for debate as to whether the harsh technique was a valuable tool or an unnecessarily violent tactic."

....

"I think we can all agree this is a good day for America."
Barrack Obama - 05/01/11

[Mike at A+]

But, according to the AP article on this.

"Mohammed did not reveal the names while being subjected to the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, former officials said. He identified them many months later under standard interrogation ..."
Even if true, I bet old Mohammed had it filed in memory what waterboarding was like and he didn't want to go there again. I think it worked. Just took a little time to register.

[lsbets]

From Leon Panneta's mouth:

Brian Williams: I’d like to ask you about the sourcing on the intel that ultimately led to this successful attack. Can you confirm that it was as a result of waterboarding that we learned what we needed to learn to go after Bin Laden?

Leon Panetta: You know, Brian, in the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information, and that was true here. We had a multiple series of sources that provided information with regards to this situation. Clearly, some of it came from detainees and the interrogation of detainees, but we also had information from other sources as well. So it’s a little difficult to say it was due just to one source of information that we got.

Williams: Turned around the other way, are you denying that waterboarding was in part among the tactics used to extract the intelligence that led to this successful mission?

Panetta: No, I think some of the detainees clearly were — you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees. But I’m also saying that the debate about whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question.

Williams: So, final point, one final time: enhanced interrogation techniques, which has always been kind of a handy euphemism in these post-9/11 years, that includes waterboarding.

Panetta: That’s correct.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/03/if-youre-determined-to-believe-waterboarding-had-nothing-to-do-with-tracking-down-bin-laden-dont-listen-to-leon-panetta/#ixzz1LP0wXOIh

[Tom]

Well this pansy sure invokes fear in the hearts of our enemies.:rolleyes:

[highnote]

Personally, I do not have it in me to actually celebrate the death of another human being.

I agree. I understand how some people could, but it's not the way I was raised.

[Tom]

I reject the premise that he was a human being.
Whatever he was, he is fish poop by now.