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macguy
04-16-2011, 12:01 PM
I encourage all serious horse players to spend a few bucks on Hastings this weekend.

When so many other jurisdictions have ignored the horse player, Hastings has stepped up to the plate to not only lower takeout, but make free PPs available to all horse players on their website. They also (as they have for the last 100 years) still run on real dirt.

I would encourage everyone to support the WPS pools and the Pick 4 and New Pick 5 wagers at 15%.

Vote with your dollars, lets hope we can show other tracks around North America that lower take out will result in increased handle.

Charli125
04-16-2011, 12:45 PM
I encourage all serious horse players to spend a few bucks on Hastings this weekend.

When so many other jurisdictions have ignored the horse player, Hastings has stepped up to the plate to not only lower takeout, but make free PPs available to all horse players on their website. They also (as they have for the last 100 years) still run on real dirt.

I would encourage everyone to support the WPS pools and the Pick 4 and New Pick 5 wagers at 15%.

Vote with your dollars, lets hope we can show other tracks around North America that lower take out will result in increased handle.

What he said.

The P5 starts in race 4 and the P4 starts in race 5.

Here's field size for those races after scratches, and they're all 6F dirt races.
4-10
5-9
6-9
7-8
8-8

beertapper
04-17-2011, 11:17 AM
P5 paid a nice 22k on saturday

adwplayingfool
04-17-2011, 12:08 PM
Anyone have the handle comparison to last year opening day or equivalent?

Horseplayersbet.com
04-17-2011, 02:39 PM
P5 paid a nice 22k on saturday
It was hit for 20 cents, so the 22k is a bit misleading. The other thing is Equibase doesn't show the Pick 5 payoff or pool for some reason.

macguy
04-17-2011, 02:40 PM
Anyone have the handle comparison to last year opening day or equivalent?

From Equibase

Hastings Park April 24th 2010 - 9 Races
Track Handle $233,230
Off Track $373,575
Total $606,805

Hastings Park April 16th 2011 - 8 Races
Track Handle $192,536
Off Track $250,037
Total $442,573

Down $164,232 or about 28%

Not off to a great start, it was not that long ago that they handled a million on Wednesday nights.

senortout
04-17-2011, 02:44 PM
They were up against it this Saturday figure may be discounted...Imagine they battled vs ARK. Derby, Bluegrass Stakes, Charlestown $Million, etc, etc....they should do better during weekday events!

HuggingTheRail
04-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Not off to a great start, it was not that long ago that they handled a million on Wednesday nights.

And in some ways, those Million dollar Wednesday nights seem so long ago....

pandy
04-17-2011, 04:36 PM
I'm betting it today, looks like a nice, scenic track.

macguy
04-17-2011, 08:33 PM
Numbers were a little bit better today.

On Track $109,667
Off Track $421,862
Total $531,529

At least the Off Track players "showed up" today.

lamboguy
04-17-2011, 08:41 PM
i think with their decrease in takeout they will have less handle than last year.

PaceAdvantage
04-18-2011, 12:33 AM
Numbers were a little bit better today.

On Track $109,667
Off Track $421,862
Total $531,529

At least the Off Track players "showed up" today.No NYRA today no doubt helped...

cj
04-26-2011, 06:07 PM
Canceling for lack of entries on a Friday isn't going to help much either.

beertapper
04-26-2011, 09:26 PM
Canceling for lack of entries on a Friday isn't going to help much either.


nope... and friday's have a decent on track crowd..

lamboguy
04-26-2011, 10:58 PM
i think that most big bettors today could care less what the takeout is, they care about what the size of the pools are and how much their rebate is.

cj
04-27-2011, 09:30 AM
i think that most big bettors today could care less what the takeout is, they care about what the size of the pools are and how much their rebate is.

Then they care, even if they don't know it.

By the way, it is "couldn't care less".

macguy
04-27-2011, 12:25 PM
i think that most big bettors today could care less what the takeout is, they care about what the size of the pools are and how much their rebate is.


Aren't rebates simply an adjusted takeout?

The Judge
04-27-2011, 07:06 PM
Will make some bets at Hastings over the weekend a track I normally don't bet.

duncan04
04-28-2011, 01:12 AM
Hastings cancels Friday card due to insufficient entries

Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:43 PM

A lack of entries forced Hastings Race Course to cancel its first Friday night card of the season.

The track is scheduled to race on Saturday and Sunday afternoons and will try its popular Friday Night Live promotion again on May 6.

“We’re disappointed,” Hastings Director of Racing Paul Ryneveld told the Vancouver Sun. “We had some momentum with solid purse increases and 904 horses on the grounds that have recorded works. I’m surprised we didn’t get enough entries for this Friday.”

from the thoroughbred times http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2011/04/27/hastings-cancels-no-entries.aspx

macguy
04-28-2011, 06:49 AM
Hastings cancels Friday card due to insufficient entries

Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:43 PM

A lack of entries forced Hastings Race Course to cancel its first Friday night card of the season.

The track is scheduled to race on Saturday and Sunday afternoons and will try its popular Friday Night Live promotion again on May 6.

“We’re disappointed,” Hastings Director of Racing Paul Ryneveld told the Vancouver Sun. “We had some momentum with solid purse increases and 904 horses on the grounds that have recorded works. I’m surprised we didn’t get enough entries for this Friday.”

from the thoroughbred times http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/national-news/2011/04/27/hastings-cancels-no-entries.aspx


This has been a common problem this time of year at Hastings. The stables are full, but there just aren't enough horses that are ready to run.

There was a lot of rain this spring, sloppy tracks every morning tend to put the horses behind schedule.

Hopefully that'll be the only card they loose this year.