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ArlJim78
03-25-2011, 11:14 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4

Okay so they made a $14 billion dollar profit last year, but was able to shelter much of it overseas, and through other favorable tax treament ended up paying no taxes in the US. Instead they rec'd a $3 billion dollar tax credit!
Over the years they have been hugely successful at lobbying for tax breaks and favoritism from congress which alllows them an advantage.

I'm not upset about compainies making huge profits, and I'm not a believer that corporate taxes are particularily constructive, but what bothers me is the cronyism. Those with the best lobbyists win. Those who show a willingness to support whatever political ideology is fashionable or who throw the most money to certain politicians districts get a waiver from the high taxes, while the others are just suckers.

Congress keeps the corporate tax rate high at 35% because it forces company lobbyists to come groveling to them, the offers roll in, the quid pro quo deals are made and its business as usual. While most people will rail against the corporation for this situation, I place the fault squarely with the politicians who pave the way for it. GE can't write the rules, or grant the waivers themselves, but if they make a sweet enough deal or support the right programs they sure as hell can get favorable treatment from government agencies.

If we must have a corporate tax, I would prefer equal treatment for all. One corporate tax rate that all must pay, no waivers. Maybe it would be only 12 or 15% so it would lower the barriers because right now a competitor who doesn't have the connections of GE or the army of lobbyist is s.o.l.

prospector
03-25-2011, 02:46 PM
how about zero %...
the employees, shareholders, and customers pay whatever tax they pay..corporation is only a legal entity..

Robert Goren
03-25-2011, 03:01 PM
This is particularly disturbing because GE got a lot of bailout money.

The Judge
03-25-2011, 04:42 PM
Corporation are only a legal entity? Does the Supreme Court on the United States know this?

DRIVEWAY
03-25-2011, 06:11 PM
Why there isn't an AMT for corporations is beyond logic. If individuals must deal with an AMT, so should corporations.


Alternative Minimum Tax

boxcar
03-25-2011, 06:33 PM
This is particularly disturbing because GE got a lot of bailout money.

I bet you're even more disturbed that they didn't get it on Bush's watch. :lol:

Boxcar

prospector
03-25-2011, 06:56 PM
Corporation are only a legal entity? Does the Supreme Court on the United States know this?
why shouldn't they..

The Judge
03-25-2011, 08:38 PM
not such a settled question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission

ElKabong
03-25-2011, 10:42 PM
GE's CEO is Jeffrey Immelt.

In 2009, Obama appointed Immelt to the 'President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board'.

In 2011, Obama appoints Immelt to Paul Volker's former position.

Now we find Immelt's company got a 3 Billion dollar credit......

Where's hcap's rage? Sec's rage? Postman's 40 paragraph looping reply that goes nowhere?

Obama's first and foremost priority as presnit has been to pay back his financial backers. Period, end of sentence.

Btw, Immelt's total compensation last year was 14 million. Some earn it, some grease palms and don't worry about getting called out for it

You can add "Most corrupt admisinstartion ever" to Barry's toe tags

bigmack
03-25-2011, 10:58 PM
This from the website HalliburtonWatch.com :rolleyes:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/HalliburtonWatch.png

The loon in a tie-dyed shirt who started HalliburtonWatch doesn't give a second thought to GE.

You gots to vilify with bias. mosty & hcap have that bumper sticker on their Yugo's.

Tom
03-25-2011, 11:54 PM
This is particularly disturbing because GE got a lot of bailout money.

And they used it to buy a president.

prospector
03-26-2011, 01:03 AM
not such a settled question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission
the only problem i have is the so called non-profit corporations...no such animal..who pays salaries and expenses..not charity

lets not forget the corporation is liable to the shareholders...too bad most shareholders don't exercise that right..

Robert Goren
03-26-2011, 07:53 AM
And they used it to buy a president.Actually they are using it to buy ING's online bank.

Secretariat
03-26-2011, 09:24 PM
Doesn't GE own NBC?

Robert Goren
03-26-2011, 10:18 PM
Doesn't GE own NBC?Not anymore. They sold it Comcast.

JustRalph
03-27-2011, 01:07 AM
Doesn't GE own NBC?

They own like 14% now. I think they were forced to keep that much to get FCC approval of the Comcast deal......... doing that from memory......

csperberg
03-27-2011, 01:07 PM
from last year but I found this to be a good read

http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html

ElKabong
03-27-2011, 02:23 PM
Personally I wouldn't mind seing corp's pay low, to no taxes. It would benefit the overall economy. Eliminate all these loopholes that benefit some corp's and don't benefit others. Let taxpayers (workers) pay the load, then we demand our elected officials to spend OUR MONEY wisely

It's called fiscal responsibility, and corp's aren't lifting a finger to see state govt's accomplish it. Taxpayers now DO. Simply look at what's going on nowdays with demands on lowering unions' gold pension plans, govt waste, etc.

The hypocrisy in this tho, is what raises conservatives eyebrows. Immelt was a huge Obama supporter, now is getting his payback in full & then some. W would have been grilled for doing this. There's a double standard and conservatives know it. Things of this nature are why the Tea Party was born. We're sick of one sided reporting, having Pols say one thing, then doing the complete opposite when elected.

Obama appreciates Sec and hcap's silence and ignorance on this matter, but the 2010 elections should be a good indicator the majority don't want any part of it