Uncle Mo heading to Wood.

[Casino]

Pletcher will run Uncle Mo in the Wood after his workout race on Saturday.He skips the Florida Derby for the less contested Wood.The Florida Derby still shapes up to be a pretty good race.

[the little guy]

This was announced four months ago.

[Striker]

Stay Thirsty likely to go to the Florida Derby.

[Tom]

This was announced four months ago.

Now it's official!

[lamboguy]

i hope he wins the timely writer to get his ticket to the wood

[joanied]

i hope he wins the timely writer to get his ticket to the wood

His ticket is already punched, lambo :)

[Tom]

Stamped "DUCK" :ThmbDown::ThmbDown:

[joanied]

Stamped "DUCK" :ThmbDown::ThmbDown:

Yep...gettin' to be SOP these days:ThmbDown:

[nijinski]

Why does this move seem odd on the way to the Derby?

[onefast99]

Why does this move seem odd on the way to the Derby?
It isn't they go 1 mile Saturday then 1 1/8th in the Wood then 1 1/4 in the Kentucky Derby.

[OTM Al]

I still can't forget how good, health and physical-wise, War Pass looked at GP when he was rolled out in his second rate debut and how bad he looked in his next race. I'm not talking results here. It looked like a totally different animal. I saw him live at GP that first race and he was the picture of health and hardly seemed to exert himself. In his next, even though I was watching on TV, his coat looked dull and he didn't even carry himself the same way. One horse is not a pattern but this just looks like something I've seen before.

[MickJ26]

How is this ducking?
Repole said months ago Uncle Mo was going in the Wood.
Besides, $150,000. second place purse will attract quality contenders.

[Tom]

He is ducking this week.

Afraid to face real racehorses, I guess.
Two derby preps, and this is one of them?
Quack quack.

[ArlJim78]

Why does this move seem odd on the way to the Derby?
because it is.
two really easy starts is not going to get the job done. it maximizes his chances of making it to the starting gate of the derby, at the expense of having him prepared to win it.

[Wickel]

His ticket is already punched, lambo :)

Jonied: I believe Lamboguy is having a little fun here.

[Dahoss9698]

because it is.
two really easy starts is not going to get the job done. it maximizes his chances of making it to the starting gate of the derby, at the expense of having him prepared to win it.

Isn't it a bit premature to say the Wood is going to be an easy start? Unless you have a time machine, if so, disregard the question.

[nijinski]

because it is.
two really easy starts is not going to get the job done. it maximizes his chances of making it to the starting gate of the derby, at the expense of having him prepared to win it.

I agree , something off in his scheduling . Something about the reports
from Repole are making me wonder too. Sounds like he's trusting that
Pletcher is looking out for the horse's best interest and I'm not sure what to make of it.
we have seen the two year old champions come up short in the Derby before ,
'but I guess it;s a wait and see.

[Saratoga_Mike]

I agree , something off in his scheduling . Something about the reports
from Repole are making me wonder too. Sounds like he's trusting that
Pletcher is looking out for the horse's best interest and I'm not sure what to make of it.we have seen the two year old champions come up short in the Derby before ,
'but I guess it;s a wait and see.

Isn't he looking out for the horse's best interest? If not, why not?

[tribecaagent]

This was announced four months ago.

:lol:

[nijinski]

Isn't he looking out for the horse's best interest? If not, why not?
Just trying to read between the lines Mike , he sounds like he is defending
the move and I personally think it's odd Mo
is going back to one turn at this point.
Not a big deal for me because when throw out the Juvenile winners in
the Derby for win the odds are better.

[rastajenk]

because it is.
two really easy starts is not going to get the job done. it maximizes his chances of making it to the starting gate of the derby, at the expense of having him prepared to win it.Maybe they're seriously looking at the whole Triple Crown. Not that I would counsel them to look at it that way, but if they are supremely confidant, it might make sense to them.

[Pell Mell]

Just where were they going to run him? They sure don't want to run him in the Tampa Derby and they want to be set for the Wood. You don't think Pletcher talked GP into this special race do you? No not much:lol:

His schedule working up to the derby is the same as was used to get to the BC.

[freddymo]

because it is.
two really easy starts is not going to get the job done. it maximizes his chances of making it to the starting gate of the derby, at the expense of having him prepared to win it.

If this horse races 5 more times in his career it will be a glowing achievement.

[tribecaagent]

If this horse races 5 more times in his career it will be a glowing achievement.

What makes you say that?

[tzipi]

What makes you say that?

I think he means money horses don't run very much anymore. If he wins next two and wins TC, he will surely be retired. If he loses before then, he will most likely be retired. Probably will not get beyond 5 races. It just happens this way today. Horrible for the sport and kills it but it's their choice. All about these rich guys getting richer at the expense of the sport.

[tribecaagent]

I'll go along with that.

[precocity]

I think he means money horses don't run very much anymore. If he wins next two and wins TC, he will surely be retired. If he loses before then, he will most likely be retired. Probably will not get beyond 5 races. It just happens this way today. Horrible for the sport and kills it but it's their choice. All about these rich guys getting richer at the expense of the sport.
good post whatever happen to the horses that won grade1 stakes and raced to 4,5 and even 6? skip away, silver charm hell i remember when a handicap was a handicap, now a horse wins one big race and off to stud? really like uncle mo but if he runs front running style cant see him winning the derby? can mo rate?

[freddymo]

What makes you say that?
Sea the stars ran 7/8 times Zarkava 7/8 bernardini what 7/8? Smarty what 8? When you succeed a lot you have done enough real fast

[Zippy Chippy]

Where is he running Saturday?

[tzipi]

good post whatever happen to the horses that won grade1 stakes and raced to 4,5 and even 6? skip away, silver charm hell i remember when a handicap was a handicap, now a horse wins one big race and off to stud? really like uncle mo but if he runs front running style cant see him winning the derby? can mo rate?

Uncle Mo rated very well just off the leader in the BC Juvenile. So he can rate. Numerous horses have won Derby on the front end and he seems to have it the goods to handle that too. But we haven't seen him run in months. Looking forward to seeing him run and how he looks this weekend.

[Robert Fischer]

Isn't it a bit premature to say the Wood is going to be an easy start? Unless you have a time machine, if so, disregard the question.
duh
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hK_OOhO9A1M/TE3jm-3dqII/AAAAAAAAFx4/NSxKqQ2DcUU/s1600/back-to-the-future-delorean.jpg

[Golf and Horses]

Where is he running Saturday?
Gulfstream Timely Writer Stakes 100k Non-graded 1 mile

[MickJ26]

The original plan was to run Uncle Mo in the Tampa Bay Derby. Then, when Brethren won the Sam Davis, Pletcher decided to keep Brethren in Tampa and find another race for Uncle Mo. He could've gone in the Gotham, but, they sent Stay Thirsty instead. Pletcher dragged his heels a little bit and Uncle Mo ended up becoming a horse without a race. Just conjecture on my part.

[Beachbabe]

Gulfstream Timely Writer Stakes 100k Non-graded 1 mile

Actually got 5 horses to run against him. Cost $300 to pass the entry box and the horse that finishes 6th gets 2% of the purse.

[Robert Fischer]

top rated 3yo
some question of distance
stride conformation flaw

I haven't handicapped the Timely Writer, but he should out class/ out run in most scenarios. I'd love for him to get to the Derby undefeated, but I will be handicapping the Wood as well as Mo's form in the TW.

[Golf and Horses]

but I will be handicapping the Wood as well as Mo's form in the TW.
No need to handicap the Wood...just fire up the flux capacitors in the DeLorean and let us know who wins...we can make a killing!!!...You would tell the truth too right Robert???...Robert?????

[Robert Fischer]

lol if only...

im working on a 2012 model using a ford taurus body

[precocity]

Timely Writer :lol: go uncle mo add that bankroll up :ThmbDown:

[Pell Mell]

Might be funny if a Rattlesnake bites him:lol:









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[Sugar Ron]

No one can micro-manage a horse better than Pletch.

Would be hilarious if this colt comes lumbering home in like eighth place at CD...

[Saratoga_Mike]

No one can micro-manage a horse better than Pletch.
Would be hilarious if this colt comes lumbering home in like eighth place at CD...

What do you mean by "micro-manage?" Surely you aren't referring to Pletcher's selection of races? That's his job. So what do you mean?

[Casino]

Micro-Manage-John Sherriffs.:lol: :lol: Thats his job.

[Zippy Chippy]

Will the Unclo Mo be on delay on TVG? Delayed on HRTV?

[Pell Mell]

Wondering if it would be worth the $8. to cover the show pool? Suppose JR falls off Mo:lol:

[Reezy]

He won by 3 in hand

[cj]

Wondering if it would be worth the $8. to cover the show pool? Suppose JR falls off Mo:lol:

Just remember, it only really cost $2.80...you cash on two of them.

[joanied]

Jonied: I believe Lamboguy is having a little fun here.

Me too, Wickel :ThmbUp: :D

[joanied]

Well, I don't know...sure he won, and his last 1/4 was 22+ with no urging, but $hit, the fractions he set were slower than in the morning...how can you judge his performance off such a crawl...
if Uncle Mo is fit enough to go 1 1/4 mile come May, I'll have to say he is a freak, because no way this race helped him, IMO...he stayed undefeated, and he might win the Wood...
I wonder if Pletcher has seen a video repla of the San Felipe:lol:

[Jasonm921]

Yeah I don't see how this race helped him too much. Now there is speculation he may stay in Florida. That would be a tough assignment. I just wish they would have started his 3 year old campaign a month earlier to get more seasoning in him.

[joanied]

Yeah I don't see how this race helped him too much. Now there is speculation he may stay in Florida. That would be a tough assignment. I just wish they would have started his 3 year old campaign a month earlier to get more seasoning in him.

I agree, Jason...if Uncle Mo is as good as they say, why not start his training back sooner and get one more race into him before the Derby...I really don't unserstand what Pletcher is thinking...and the Timely Writer, as mentioned, couldn't have done much for him, all he did was run a 1/4 mile with a strong gallop out...again, how can we possibly judge him off this race:confused: ...and what is the thinking behind keeping him in Florida...not having to ship...or are they thinking it'll come up easier than the Wood?

[Thomas Roulston]

Still say Uncle Mo's pedigree will be his undoing in the Derby.

And what's not to like about Soldat, who already has two wins at 9f - one in a recognizable Derby prep, and got a 103 BSF in the other?

Plus Soldat does have what it takes pedigree-wise; i.e., stamina-wing representation.

I haven't felt this strong about a Derby horse since Sea Hero - and we all know what he did, and at what price.

[PhantomOnTour]

If he wins his final Derby prep (Wood Mem or wherever) he will be undefeated in five starts heading to Churchill...

In the Derby, what are the results for horses entering undefeated with at least five lifetime starts? Of those, how many are 3 time Gr1 winners, and how did they do in the Derby?
Not to pile on, but how about some odds while you're at it :)

Thanks in advance for anyone who can find these answers for us.