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Casino
03-04-2011, 09:13 PM
Baffert has the silent killer in the barn has been working up a storm getting ready for the San Felipe.The race to watch will be the Santa Anita derby.

Jaycito02/28/2011 SA 5F :58.60 Dirt Fast H 02/21/2011 HOL 7F 1:24.80 All Weather Track Fast H G 02/15/2011 SA 7F 1:25.40 Dirt Fast H 02/07/2011 SA 5F :59.20 Dirt Fast H 02/01/2011 SA 7F 1:25.20 Dirt Fast H 01/24/2011 SA 5F :59.40 Dirt Fast H 01/18/2011 SA 4F :49.40 Dirt Fast H 01/12/2011 SA 3F :37.40 Dirt Fast H

Casino
03-04-2011, 09:24 PM
Baffert has the silent killer in the barn has been working up a storm getting ready for the San Felipe.The race to watch will be the Santa Anita derby.

Jaycito02/28/2011 SA 5F :58.60 Dirt Fast H 02/21/2011 HOL 7F 1:24.80 All Weather Track Fast H G 02/15/2011 SA 7F 1:25.40 Dirt Fast H 02/07/2011 SA 5F :59.20 Dirt Fast H 02/01/2011 SA 7F 1:25.20 Dirt Fast H 01/24/2011 SA 5F :59.40 Dirt Fast H 01/18/2011 SA 4F :49.40 Dirt Fast H 01/12/2011 SA 3F :37.40 Dirt Fast H

The workout on 2/21 was impressive.The horse has matured and Baffert will have him ready for his best effort,but it may not be in his 1st start.Hes ready to roll,follow closely.

Chris G
03-04-2011, 10:27 PM
I'll take Awesome Patriot.


If the works matter, here ya go:
Awesome Patriot

02/28/2011 SA 6F 1:13.20 Dirt Fast H
02/21/2011 HOL 6F 1:11.40 All Weather Track Fast H
02/13/2011 SA 5F 1:00.60 Dirt Fast H
02/07/2011 SA 6F 1:10.80 Dirt Fast HG
01/31/2011 SA 6F 1:12.40 Dirt Fast H
01/24/2011 SA 5F 1:01.60 Dirt Fast H
01/18/2011 SA 4F :48.00 Dirt Fast H
01/09/2011 SA 5F 1:00.80 Dirt Fast H

Cholly
03-05-2011, 09:29 AM
Hope Mr. Casino is right about Jaycito; the other half (Indian Winter) in my Derby Future Pool #1 wager not looking too stout at the moment—running third in a $50K stakes at Turf Paradise does not bode well for May 7th

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80190

Casino
03-07-2011, 05:30 PM
Baffert has the silent killer in the barn has been working up a storm getting ready for the San Felipe.The race to watch will be the Santa Anita derby.

Jaycito02/28/2011 SA 5F :58.60 Dirt Fast H 02/21/2011 HOL 7F 1:24.80 All Weather Track Fast H G 02/15/2011 SA 7F 1:25.40 Dirt Fast H 02/07/2011 SA 5F :59.20 Dirt Fast H 02/01/2011 SA 7F 1:25.20 Dirt Fast H 01/24/2011 SA 5F :59.40 Dirt Fast H 01/18/2011 SA 4F :49.40 Dirt Fast H 01/12/2011 SA 3F :37.40 Dirt Fast H

Sizzled 59.8 for 5f under a snug hold yesterday,and Baffert is heating up at the right time,i expect a good solid race for him in the San Felipe.

Casino
03-07-2011, 06:34 PM
Sizzled 59.8 for 5f under a snug hold yesterday,and Baffert is heating up at the right time,i expect a good solid race for him in the San Felipe.

Baffert:
“I had Jaycito behind and taking on dirt, so I think we’re all set,” Baffert said.Dirt wont be a issue for Jaycito as some think.

Casino
03-07-2011, 07:41 PM
Baffert:
“I had Jaycito behind and taking on dirt, so I think we’re all set,” Baffert said.Dirt wont be a issue for Jaycito as some think.

Recap his 4 race career

Debut-Oct 2-Post 1-breaks from the rail last,rushes up and duels into the half in 46,not too fast,but he ran a 22 flat just to get in the race after breaking slowly.His winning move was early which cost him the race.

Sept 8-Mitchell decides to skip a msw race and places him in the Del MAr Futurity.Draws post 1 AT 7f (the kiss of death) breaks dead last again spots the field anywhere between 10 to 15 lengths maybe even more,they went 45.2 into 1:10.1,like his debut he unleashed his winning move under 2 gets fanned 8 wide ,the comment reads 5 wide thats BS,(looked at the race 20 times) it was almost 10 wide.Straightens up in the lane and unleashed his 2nd winning move in the race under 2.So far 2 races and 2 different styles with legit excuses.

Oct 2-Mitchell again decides to skip a msw and places him in the GR1 Norfolk.Jaycito drew a cozy post 7.The problem with post 7 in this race was 3 horses inside of him had speed and Smith was told to keep close.In this race Jaycito ran 4 wide on both turns dueled down the backstretch his first winnning move,they went slow up front 48 to the half (he had no pace to run at) drops back and Smith unleashes his 2nd winning move at the top of the lanes and grinds down JP Gusto who at the time was razor sharp.He has another gear and yet another way to beat you,this time stayed close even when losing ground and ran his ASS off.Breaks his maiden in a GR1 in a 3rd different style read the PP lines.

Nov 6-Blew the first turn,bolted.Wide lost all chance,no one was beating Uncle Mo who had a dream trip chasing 56/1 shot Riveting Reason.After the wire Jaycito galloped out real good.

The switch to Bafferts barn was huge.

Jaycito like very few in this years crop could win a race in different ways.1 1/4 will be no problem,the dirt will be no problem.Mike Smith the ideal rider for Jaycito.IMO the SADerby will be the key race.Im excited to see Jaycito run Saturday,but i will be paying close attention to his style.

Marlin
03-07-2011, 08:00 PM
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Recap his 4 race career

Debut-Oct 2-Post 1-breaks from the rail last,rushes up and duels into the half in 46,not too fast,but he ran a 22 flat just to get in the race after breaking slowly.His winning move was early which cost him the race.

Sept 8-Mitchell decides to skip a msw race and places him in the Del MAr Futurity.Draws post 1 AT 7f (the kiss of death) breaks dead last again spots the field anywhere between 10 to 15 lengths maybe even more,they went 45.2 into 1:10.1,like his debut he unleashed his winning move under 2 gets fanned 8 wide ,the comment reads 5 wide thats BS,(looked at the race 20 times) it was almost 10 wide.Straightens up in the lane and unleashed his 2nd winning move in the race under 2.So far 2 races and 2 different styles with legit excuses.

Oct 2-Mitchell again decides to skip a msw and places him in the GR1 Norfolk.Jaycito drew a cozy post 7.The problem with post 7 in this race was 3 horses inside of him had speed and Smith was told to keep close.In this race Jaycito ran 4 wide on both turns dueled down the backstretch his first winnning move,they went slow up front 48 to the half (he had no pace to run at) drops back and Smith unleashes his 2nd winning move at the top of the lanes and grinds down JP Gusto who at the time was razor sharp.He has another gear and yet another way to beat you,this time stayed close even when losing ground and ran his ASS off.Breaks his maiden in a GR1 in a 3rd different style read the PP lines.

Nov 6-Blew the first turn,bolted.Wide lost all chance,no one was beating Uncle Mo who had a dream trip chasing 56/1 shot Riveting Reason.After the wire Jaycito galloped out real good.

The switch to Bafferts barn was huge.

Jaycito like very few in this years crop could win a race in different ways.1 1/4 will be no problem,the dirt will be no problem.Mike Smith the ideal rider for Jaycito.IMO the SADerby will be the key race.Im excited to see Jaycito run Saturday,but i will be paying close attention to his style.Other than the bold font I completely agree with you.

Casino
03-07-2011, 08:06 PM
Other than the bold font I completely agree with you.

Marlin have you followed any horse so far that you may like in the derby,if so please share your input.I welcome your reasoning behind your pick.

joanied
03-07-2011, 08:53 PM
he's been on my early Derby list and as soon as he moved to Baffert's barn I said, "ohoh, this is very good"...and he moved up a few notches on my list...the SA Derby should be a good one :jump:

Dahoss9698
03-07-2011, 11:00 PM
Where is this horses good race?

Beachbabe
03-07-2011, 11:40 PM
This horse is 1 for 4 and he's the Derby winner ????????? :confused:

Marlin
03-10-2011, 01:25 AM
Marlin have you followed any horse so far that you may like in the derby,if so please share your input.I welcome your reasoning behind your pick.As you know I'm a Dialed In guy. However, it is wise to explore other options at this point. Jaycito has the qualities I look for. He will handle the distance and he won't be on the pace. As others have noted, it's not there on paper right now. I happen to think it will be there soon.

Right now I have more horses I don't like for May 7th than I do including Uncle Mo, Soldat, Mucho Macho Man, Gourmet Dinner, Flashpoint, The Factor, etc....

I'm ambivalent and leaning towards dislike with THAS, Stay Thirsty, Anything in California other than Jaycito, Brethren, Anything in Arkansas, Anything in Louisiana. But May 7th is a ways away.

joanied
03-10-2011, 08:51 PM
I'm kinda the same way...I have more toss outs on my K Derby list than stay ins... I really like Mike Repole, he even 'tawks' like me :) ...he's great for the game and it would be wonderful if Mo takes the fans on a great ride...but in my head I have to question his ability to take that long trip around Belmont...meantime I really like Jaycito now that it appears Baffert has got him straight and training like gangbusters...and no way do I dismiss Dialed In because he got (just) beat...
Brethren and Stay Thirsty are still in with my top picks too.

toussaud
03-10-2011, 10:11 PM
I do think however, he will go 10F. I am not crazy about the horses talent but in this day any age any true 2 turn horse has a legit leg up. still think sway away is leaps and bounds the best 2 turn 3YO in socal

Cardus
03-12-2011, 02:20 AM
Where is this horses good race?

While I understand your skepticism, I suspect that Jaycito will run well later today and I will wager accordingly. He doesn't have dirt form, so this is essentially a guess.

There is a lot of speed in the race -- there could be as many as four horses with the speed to be on the engine -- and I expect Smith to be no closer than fifth early on. I think that the race sets up well for him, provided that Smith has Jaycito in what I see as a good deep stalking position.

It's interesting that only Awesome Patriot has good two-turn, dirt form.

I expect Jaycito to run well today, even though he now has me on his back.

Casino
03-12-2011, 06:57 AM
While I understand your skepticism, I suspect that Jaycito will run well later today and I will wager accordingly. He doesn't have dirt form, so this is essentially a guess.

There is a lot of speed in the race -- there could be as many as four horses with the speed to be on the engine -- and I expect Smith to be no closer than fifth early on. I think that the race sets up well for him, provided that Smith has Jaycito in what I see as a good deep stalking position.

It's interesting that only Awesome Patriot has good two-turn, dirt form.

I expect Jaycito to run well today, even though he now has me on his back.

Cardus,Garcia will be aboard Jaycito,his originial rider.Baffert expecting a GOOD effort from Jaycito,not a HUGE effort.

Casino
03-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Cardus,Garcia will be aboard Jaycito,his originial rider.Baffert expecting a GOOD effort from Jaycito,not a HUGE effort.
Perfect,ran good not great,will improve.Blinkers off on PP made the difference.

toussaud
03-12-2011, 07:25 PM
winner was mighty impressive.

Casino
03-12-2011, 07:30 PM
winner was mighty impressive.
I agree,Toussad,makes me wonder how Uncle will have some company come the first Sat in May.They where wicked up front and the race fell apart,PP was real good.Nice price at 8/1

joanied
03-12-2011, 08:50 PM
Arrgghh...we have two threads for the San Felipe...I'll repeat myself here...I thought Jaycito ran well to take the place...I can't know why Martin had him so far out of it down the backstretch...I know that's his style, like his sire, but man, he had alot of ground to make up...killer fractions and I gotta hand it to PP...he was awesome on this day and as I said in the other thread...maybe he'll make Uncle Mo cry uncle come Derby Day...maybe it's an 'omen' that the last horse to win the Derby off the San Felipe was this colt's daddy :eek:

Casino
03-13-2011, 08:37 AM
Baffert:
“I had Jaycito behind and taking on dirt, so I think we’re all set,” Baffert said.Dirt wont be a issue for Jaycito as some think.

From my understanding Baffert was ok with it, Jaycito is very versatile this was the plan,get some dirt finish strong.Jaycito will be a bit closer in the SA DERBY.Im confident we have not seen his best race.
One quick note, Garcia down the backstretch realize the field was getting away from him he ask Jaycito for some run and he responded which is a good sign.

Casino
03-13-2011, 09:39 AM
Arrgghh...we have two threads for the San Felipe...I'll repeat myself here...I thought Jaycito ran well to take the place...I can't know why Martin had him so far out of it down the backstretch...I know that's his style, like his sire, but man, he had alot of ground to make up...killer fractions and I gotta hand it to PP...he was awesome on this day and as I said in the other thread...maybe he'll make Uncle Mo cry uncle come Derby Day...maybe it's an 'omen' that the last horse to win the Derby off the San Felipe was this colt's daddy :eek:

He did good,” Jaycito trainer Bob Baffert said. “He was way back there. The horse learned a lot today, so we’ll go step by step.”

Tom
03-13-2011, 10:43 AM
Step by step?
How many steps are left before he flops in the Derby? :D

DRIVEWAY
03-13-2011, 10:59 AM
Jaycito will probably wind up a non threatening fourth or fifth in the Kentucky Derby. Would need a meltdown on the front to prevail.

Where's Calvin Borel when you need him?

Casino
03-13-2011, 12:48 PM
Step by step?
How many steps are left before he flops in the Derby? :D

Wouldnt that be the case with every horse on the derby trial,Baffert has been here before.I bet him in the 1st pool at 20/1.If he wins the SA DERBY he will be 7/2 in the derby.Why not?

Chris G
03-13-2011, 01:42 PM
He did good,” Jaycito trainer Bob Baffert said. “He was way back there. The horse learned a lot today, so we’ll go step by step.”

He learned that he got his ass kicked. As did the rest of them. What's his excuse? Not good enough.

Casino
03-13-2011, 02:04 PM
He learned that he got his ass kicked. As did the rest of them. What's his excuse? Not good enough.
Wait wouldnt you say the race fell apart and PP got a dream trip,It was Jaycito first race since Nov.Gee whiz.

Tom
03-13-2011, 04:15 PM
Wouldnt that be the case with every horse on the derby trial

Difference being the others already have raced and have foundation.

Casino
03-13-2011, 04:38 PM
Difference being the others already have raced and have foundation.
The last 2 winners of the derby-3rd race back.

redshift1
03-13-2011, 05:09 PM
winner was mighty impressive.


Flatters Sway Away

Dahoss9698
03-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Still waiting for a good race out of Jaycito. I can't believe the hype this horse gets.

Tom
03-14-2011, 02:33 PM
The last 2 winners of the derby-3rd race back.

And both benefited by a lot of luck,not skill.

Casino
03-14-2011, 03:30 PM
And both benefited by a lot of luck,not skill.

Tom its all part of the game.Funny Cide 3rd race back.First time accident 2nd time trend.Baffert 's job is to have Jaycito at his best on May 7th.

joanied
03-14-2011, 03:36 PM
I ain't counting out Jaycito just yet...see how he does in the SA Derby...but you have to start paying attention to PP...it was quite a run he gave, and his pedigree sure gives him the stamina.

Tom
03-14-2011, 03:45 PM
So far, his best is pretty much well below almost everyone else.
I do not see why anyone is calling this horse anything other a marginal allowance horse. At his point, he has shown nothing to indicate he has anything.

Casino
03-14-2011, 05:07 PM
Still waiting for a good race out of Jaycito. I can't believe the hype this horse gets.

Im not reading a whole of hype on Jaycito.Uncle MO,Dialed In,Mucho Macho Man,Bind,Premier Pegasus,there getting the press clippings.Jaycito ran good not great.
Remember he just needs to be good 1 race.

Casino
03-14-2011, 05:14 PM
So far, his best is pretty much well below almost everyone else.
I do not see why anyone is calling this horse anything other a marginal allowance horse. At his point, he has shown nothing to indicate he has anything.

Tom,hes had 1 race for crying out loud,The others have at least 1 if not 2 races this year already.Dialed In has had 2,Premier Pegasus 2,Soldat 2,Brethren 2,Mucho Macho Man 2.Baffert has said he will be ready come May.Jaycito hasnt never run in any allowance race in his career,he broke his maiden in a grade 1.Hes as honest as they come.Yes he very well could be a plotter,if you look at this years crop do you see any world beaters?

Casino
03-14-2011, 06:09 PM
Jaycito prior to this race had the blinkers all 4 of his races.
Prior to Saturdays race Baffert's main concern was A.can he handled the dirt.B.He wanted some dirt kicked in his face.
This was exactly why Baffert decided to take the BLINKERS OFF,he got both accomplished.Now he puts the blinkers back on for the SA DERBY.The writing is on the wall.I would be surpise if he wins the SA DERBY,i would be surpised if he doesnt win the derby.Every player follows there own derby horse,i just happen to be following Jaycito since the change to Bafferts barn.Baffert loves this horse and i have jumped aboard in each pool.

Dahoss9698
03-14-2011, 06:41 PM
Tom its all part of the game.Funny Cide 3rd race back.First time accident 2nd time trend.Baffert 's job is to have Jaycito at his best on May 7th.

Funny Cide had 3 races as a 3 year old before the Derby.

Dahoss9698
03-14-2011, 06:45 PM
Im not reading a whole of hype on Jaycito.Uncle MO,Dialed In,Mucho Macho Man,Bind,Premier Pegasus,there getting the press clippings.Jaycito ran good not great.
Remember he just needs to be good 1 race.

You're not reading a lot of hype about him? Aside from your posts he's being talked about on every message board. Jeff Siegel on HRTV hyped him up all last week.

We disagree that he ran good. He's never going to get a setup like he got on Saturday and he was crushed. I realize it was his first start back, but considering he's only going to have one more, if I liked him, I would have liked to see a lot more. I just don't see the appeal with this one.

Cardus
03-14-2011, 06:58 PM
You're not reading a lot of hype about him? Aside from your posts he's being talked about on every message board. Jeff Siegel on HRTV hyped him up all last week.

We disagree that he ran good. He's never going to get a setup like he got on Saturday and he was crushed. I realize it was his first start back, but considering he's only going to have one more, if I liked him, I would have liked to see a lot more. I just don't see the appeal with this one.

I agree with this. I was disappointed, and I posted that I liked him coming into the race.

He should have run better with that set-up. By better, I mean more explosive in the stretch.

Casino
03-14-2011, 07:21 PM
Funny Cide had 3 races as a 3 year old before the Derby.
Dahoss,yes Funny Cide did have 3 races before the derby,but the derby was his 3rd race back from a over 30 day layoff he raced in January,didnt race in February



3Ü03=10CD fst 1² :46¦1:10§ 1:35¨2:01 KyDerby-G1 109 5 3§ 3¦ô 2ô 1Ç 1¦ö Santos J A L126 12.80 94= 06 Funny Cide126¦ö EmpireMaker126ÇPeaceRules126Ç Bmp start,stiff drive 16





12ß03= 8Aqu my 1° :47¦1:11 1:35©1:48¨ WoodMem-G1 110 4 2¦ô 2¦ô 2¦ 2Ç 2ô Santos J A L123 5.20 92= 12 Empire Maker123ô Funny Cide123¬ô Kissin Saint123¦ Bumped after start 8

9à03= 9FG fst 1Â :23§ :46¨ 1:10¨1:42¨ LaDerby-G2 99 2 1¦ 1¦ô 1ô 4¨ô 3¨õ Santos J A L122 6.10 94= 17 Peace Rules122§õ ìKafwain122¦ Funny Cide122ô Came again rail 10

Awarded second purse money

18â03=10GP fst 1Â :23§ :47¦ 1:11§1:43 HolyBull-G3 87 13 7§õ 4¦ô 4© 4© 5«ô Santos J A L122 5.30 87= 10 OffleeWild116ÇPowerful Touch116¨ Bham118§ô Hit gate, wide, tired 13

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Why kind of pace scenario do you see in the derby?Maybe not the same but very similiar.
What kind of race in your opinion would have been a good race?I didnt expect him to win Sat,nor do i expect him to win the Santa Anita Derby.Is there any horse you have your eye on that has impressed you so far?

Dahoss9698
03-14-2011, 07:53 PM
Dahoss,yes Funny Cide did have 3 races before the derby,but the derby was his 3rd race back from a over 30 day layoff he raced in January,didnt race in February





3Ü03=10CD fst 1² :46¦1:10§ 1:35¨2:01 KyDerby-G1 109 5 3§ 3¦ô 2ô 1Ç 1¦ö Santos J A L126 12.80 94= 06 Funny Cide126¦ö EmpireMaker126ÇPeaceRules126Ç Bmp start,stiff drive 16









12ß03= 8Aqu my 1° :47¦1:11 1:35©1:48¨ WoodMem-G1 110 4 2¦ô 2¦ô 2¦ 2Ç 2ô Santos J A L123 5.20 92= 12 Empire Maker123ô Funny Cide123¬ô Kissin Saint123¦ Bumped after start 8

9à03= 9FG fst 1Â :23§ :46¨ 1:10¨1:42¨ LaDerby-G2 99 2 1¦ 1¦ô 1ô 4¨ô 3¨õ Santos J A L122 6.10 94= 17 Peace Rules122§õ ìKafwain122¦ Funny Cide122ô Came again rail 10

Awarded second purse money

18â03=10GP fst 1Â :23§ :47¦ 1:11§1:43 HolyBull-G3 87 13 7§õ 4¦ô 4© 4© 5«ô Santos J A L122 5.30 87= 10 OffleeWild116ÇPowerful Touch116¨ Bham118§ô Hit gate, wide, tired 13

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Why kind of pace scenario do you see in the derby?Maybe not the same but very similiar.
What kind of race in your opinion would have been a good race?I didnt expect him to win Sat,nor do i expect him to win the Santa Anita Derby.Is there any horse you have your eye on that has impressed you so far?

So what is the point in regards to Funny Cide? He started 3 times before the Derby.

They went 21 and 3 for the quarter and 44 and 2 for the half in the San Felipe. That is about as fast as you will see for a route race. I have no idea what the pace scenario for the Derby is going to be, but I'm confident it will be close to 2 seconds slower to the half at least.

I just don't see the excitement over a horse who has done so little on track. He's been a huge underlay in both future bets. His reputation seems based on trainerspeak.

I haven't been real impressed with anyone outside of Uncle Mo. I bet $10 this weekend on Archarcharch in the futures because he was 50-1 or so and looked good in the Southwest. I thought Sway Away ran well in the San Vicente. His trainer isn't known for having horses ready off the layoff and he was making his first in a long time. I think JP's Gusto is one to watch after his trip in the Southwest. The problem is all 3 are running against each other in the Rebel on Saturday.

If Uncle Mo is healthy I think they are all running for 2nd. But with his proposed schedule he can't have any hiccups.

Casino
03-14-2011, 08:26 PM
So what is the point in regards to Funny Cide? He started 3 times before the Derby.

They went 21 and 3 for the quarter and 44 and 2 for the half in the San Felipe. That is about as fast as you will see for a route race. I have no idea what the pace scenario for the Derby is going to be, but I'm confident it will be close to 2 seconds slower to the half at least.

I just don't see the excitement over a horse who has done so little on track. He's been a huge underlay in both future bets. His reputation seems based on trainerspeak.

I haven't been real impressed with anyone outside of Uncle Mo. I bet $10 this weekend on Archarcharch in the futures because he was 50-1 or so and looked good in the Southwest. I thought Sway Away ran well in the San Vicente. His trainer isn't known for having horses ready off the layoff and he was making his first in a long time. I think JP's Gusto is one to watch after his trip in the Southwest. The problem is all 3 are running against each other in the Rebel on Saturday.

If Uncle Mo is healthy I think they are all running for 2nd. But with his proposed schedule he can't have any hiccups.

Fair enough i respect your input.

Tom
03-14-2011, 10:39 PM
I'm looking at his races last year and see nothing to write home about.

theguarantee
03-14-2011, 11:04 PM
Casino is one of my favorite posters, I'm pretty much writing off Jaycito though, if he wins I'll definitely be one of the first to give credit though.

Looking forward to JP, couldn't agree more on Mo though...not sure why people are talking too much about dodging when clearly Pletcher was trying to dodge Mo for Brethren and it still didn't work. Horse looked more than ready to go a greater route of ground...the Wood should be more telling, but at this point I don't know how anyone really thinks Mo isn't the one to beat.

Tom
03-14-2011, 11:10 PM
...but at this point I don't know how anyone really thinks Mo isn't the one to beat.

I don't.

Dahoss9698
03-14-2011, 11:42 PM
I don't.

I would never bet him in the Derby, because he's going to be real short if he shows up, but how is he not the one to beat? Who has run a race even remotely close to what he did at Churchill in November?

Who is the horse to beat in your opinion if it isn't Uncle Mo?

Thomas Roulston
03-15-2011, 02:34 AM
Jaycito strikes me as another Dr. Valeri or Rexson's Hope - and has the same pedigree issues as those two Derby pretenders did (actually not quite as bad as those two both had >4.00 DIs, while Jaycito has a DI of 3.00, but no stamina-wing representation).

plainolebill
03-15-2011, 02:56 AM
Jaycito needs to improve bigtime to be considered a Derby contender. His BSFs from his 2yo races were much lower than the 3yo figs of some of the others in the San Felipe - easy to bet against. *Not to mention it was his first start on dirt.

Tom
03-15-2011, 07:57 AM
Who is the horse to beat in your opinion if it isn't Uncle Mo?

Right now,
Soldat, and the one who won the Jaycito race Saturday- can't remeber his name.

Uncle Duck, if he shows something in the Wood, could be the one to beat again, but so far, I don't think so. See far too many 2 yo super horses looking at butts on the Derby Trail to get excited about any 2yo form.

elysiantraveller
03-15-2011, 09:24 AM
Right now,
Soldat, and the one who won the Jaycito race Saturday- can't remeber his name.

Uncle Duck, if he shows something in the Wood, could be the one to beat again, but so far, I don't think so. See far too many 2 yo super horses looking at butts on the Derby Trail to get excited about any 2yo form.

From a figure standpoint though he still towers over the rest of the crop right now. If he doesn't improve at all over his 2YO form he is still the horse to beat from a figure standpoint... I'm not saying he isn't vulnerable because of lack of foundation, progression, etc... I don't necessarily like him and certainly won't be betting him but he still demands some respect right now because he was that good last year. No matter what happens a lot of people will be changing their opinions on him after his next prep.

Casino
03-15-2011, 01:05 PM
Jaycito strikes me as another Dr. Valeri or Rexson's Hope - and has the same pedigree issues as those two Derby pretenders did (actually not quite as bad as those two both had >4.00 DIs, while Jaycito has a DI of 3.00, but no stamina-wing representation).

Hes a dual qualifier.Victory Gallop could run all day,Raise A Native also in bloodline,i dont see the distance being a issue.Time will tell.

Dahoss9698
03-15-2011, 02:38 PM
Right now,
Soldat, and the one who won the Jaycito race Saturday- can't remeber his name.

Uncle Duck, if he shows something in the Wood, could be the one to beat again, but so far, I don't think so. See far too many 2 yo super horses looking at butts on the Derby Trail to get excited about any 2yo form.

Soldat needs to prove (to me at least) that he can win a dirt race without running alone on a moderate pace on the lead. Premier Pegasus looked good, but much like Jaycito, he'll never get that setup again.

I agree, the Wood should tell us a lot more.

Tom
03-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Premier Pegasus - that's it. Thanks.
What I like about him was his good Beyer last year, and then his strong move from 7 furlongs. Agreed the pace was perfect, but I expect a very hot pace in the Derby, set by very bad horses.

Soldat, yes still needs to prove his ability, but at least he has been around two turns already.

Frankly, this might be a very bad crop......nothing has me excited about any of the prep races.

plainolebill
03-15-2011, 03:31 PM
That's the first race where Premier Pegasus has laid far off the pace, I'd assume that he can get whatever position the jock wants. So yes he did get a great setup but if the pace had been slower he'd probably have been much closer to the leaders. Not selling anything just making an observation.

Casino
03-16-2011, 07:23 PM
A good friend of mine who knows Baffert pretty well, said Jaycito was only 75% cranked up for the San Felipe.When he asked Baffert about the race Baffert responded this isnt the playoffs yet is it?,in reference to Phil Jackson 's comment about the Lakers when there werent playing well.

Casino
03-20-2011, 08:09 AM
Baffert has found his horse to keep Uncle Mo busy in the derby.The Factor!

Dahoss9698
03-20-2011, 12:47 PM
A good friend of mine who knows Baffert pretty well, said Jaycito was only 75% cranked up for the San Felipe.When he asked Baffert about the race Baffert responded this isnt the playoffs yet is it?,in reference to Phil Jackson 's comment about the Lakers when there werent playing well.

Of course he said that. What was he going to say? That he was ready to go and got crushed? Wake me up when he runs a good race.

Spendabuck85
03-21-2011, 02:53 PM
Jaycito, the second-place finisher in the San Felipe Stakes in his 3-year-old debut, will “probably” make his next start in the Grade 1, $1 million Wood Memorial at Aqueduct on April 9, trainer Bob Baffert said Monday
Full story at:
http://www.drf.com/news/wood-memorial-likely-next-stop-jaycito

Casino
03-21-2011, 05:40 PM
Jaycito, the second-place finisher in the San Felipe Stakes in his 3-year-old debut, will “probably” make his next start in the Grade 1, $1 million Wood Memorial at Aqueduct on April 9, trainer Bob Baffert said Monday
Full story at:
http://www.drf.com/news/wood-memorial-likely-next-stop-jaycito


Which means The Factor is heading back to run in the SA Derby?

Does anyone want to buy a $350 ticket on Jaycito in the 1st pool?
I also have a $50 win ticket in the second pool?

PM if interested?:(

MickJ26
03-22-2011, 12:30 AM
Thank you, Mr. Baffert. It'd be nicer if he sent his "A" horse, but, his "B" isn't bad either. Now all we need is one good Florida defection and we have ourselves a super race.

Sugar Ron
03-22-2011, 08:33 AM
Good to see Baffy being aggressive and going after that bubble-wrapped Pletch Inc. colt in NY.

PaceAdvantage
03-22-2011, 10:45 AM
Good to see Baffy being aggressive and going after that bubble-wrapped Pletch Inc. colt in NY.Yup...I hear The Factor's new nickname is "Iron Horse" :rolleyes:

Sugar Ron
03-22-2011, 01:00 PM
Hell, maybe Pletch will just keep him at GP for that brand new $150k Kid Gloves Stakes on 4/9 ... LMAO.

Casino
03-25-2011, 09:03 PM
48.4 for 4f.

You read it hear first,the Blinkers will go back on Jaycito for the Wood,and Jaycito will have Uncle Mo within reach and will beat him,Baffert will win the WOOD.

Casino
03-25-2011, 09:08 PM
Which means The Factor is heading back to run in the SA Derby?

Does anyone want to buy a $350 ticket on Jaycito in the 1st pool?
I also have a $50 win ticket in the second pool?

PM if interested?:(

On second thought,i will keep my tickets!:) :) :) ;)

Casino
03-30-2011, 01:47 PM
On second thought,i will keep my tickets!:) :) :) ;)

JAYCITO (KY)--The Wood Memorial still could be next, but Bob Baffert told Bloodhorse.com yesterday he might keep Jaycito at home for the Santa Anita Derby. “I know one thing.... He needs a mile and a quarter," Baffert said

joanied
03-30-2011, 02:56 PM
I hope Baffert goes to the Wood with Jaycito...it will make the Wood the best 'prep' of all of them...wouldn't we all love to see Jaycito & Mo face off before the Derby?

Wanna take bets on Mo going in the FL Derby if Baffert goes to NY?;) :D

Cardus
03-30-2011, 05:14 PM
JAYCITO (KY)--The Wood Memorial still could be next, but Bob Baffert told Bloodhorse.com yesterday he might keep Jaycito at home for the Santa Anita Derby. “I know one thing.... He needs a mile and a quarter," Baffert said

With this post, you've just quoted yourself... twice... and consecutively.

Dahoss9698
03-30-2011, 05:17 PM
I hope Baffert goes to the Wood with Jaycito...it will make the Wood the best 'prep' of all of them...wouldn't we all love to see Jaycito & Mo face off before the Derby?

Wanna take bets on Mo going in the FL Derby if Baffert goes to NY?;) :D

The Wood will be the best prep if Jaycito comes? Huh? Maybe if Uncle Mo gives him a 5 second head start.

Spiderman
03-30-2011, 05:51 PM
I hope Baffert goes to the Wood with Jaycito...it will make the Wood the best 'prep' of all of them...wouldn't we all love to see Jaycito & Mo face off before the Derby?

Wanna take bets on Mo going in the FL Derby if Baffert goes to NY?;) :D

Best that Jaycito will do in Wood is run a closing second a la Monarchos. The KD will be another story.

No reason for TP to duck if Jaycito comes to Wood. He would be more concerned with The Factor for reason of pace.

PaceAdvantage
03-30-2011, 07:56 PM
JAYCITO (KY)--The Wood Memorial still could be next, but Bob Baffert told Bloodhorse.com yesterday he might keep Jaycito at home for the Santa Anita Derby. “I know one thing.... He needs a mile and a quarter," Baffert saidWhenever I hear a trainer say a horse needs 10 furlongs, I always cringe. Don't know why, I just do.

sandpit
03-30-2011, 08:22 PM
Whenever I hear a trainer say a horse needs 10 furlongs, I always cringe. Don't know why, I just do.

Agree most all the time, unless it's somebody that gears his entire program around getting to and winning at 1 1/4 miles.

joanied
03-31-2011, 10:25 AM
Having Jaycito in the Wood along with Uncle Mo will just give the race one more top Derby contender...IMO, not many of the preps so far have had deep feilds...so it's my opinion that if Jaycito runs there it'll give the Wood field a little more depth and UM a little more competition...
nothing was said that Jaycito might beat UM...it'd just be a better race to watch and even handicap...
and my 'wanna bet TP stays in FL if Jaycito goes to NY was a joke...guess the laughing smilie didn't show up:faint:

Dahoss9698
03-31-2011, 02:34 PM
Yeah, it's going to be fascinating watching Uncle Mo beat him by 10 lengths.

I can hardly wait to read Uncle Mo's facebook page after the race.

Tom
03-31-2011, 03:25 PM
If they bring Jaycito to Aqueduct, I suggest they fill out a $50K claimer with him. :rolleyes:

Nice bottom to some exacta.

Casino
03-31-2011, 06:01 PM
If they bring Jaycito to Aqueduct, I suggest they fill out a $50K claimer with him. :rolleyes:

Nice bottom to some exacta.

Wow so much venom!

Cardus
03-31-2011, 06:55 PM
Wow so much venom!

It's not venom, bro.

Casino
03-31-2011, 07:47 PM
It's not venom, bro.

He thinks Jaycito is overrated,and so far Jaycito has accomplished very little.Thats his opinion and i respect it.I think hes gone a bit overboard on his view with this horse.Some love Uncle Mo,and imo he will run 3/4 of a mile in the derby,some love Dialed In and i think his best races will be later this summer,some love Mucho Macho Man and i think he has no shot in the derby.The list goes on,im sticking with my guns since November he has been my derby horse,baffert i know feels he has the derby winner,i bet him in each pool.I guess will find out on May 7.

joanied
03-31-2011, 08:35 PM
Yeah, it's going to be fascinating watching Uncle Mo beat him by 10 lengths.

I can hardly wait to read Uncle Mo's facebook page after the race.

It won't matter to me if UM beats Jaycito by 10 in the Wood...it's the Derby that really counts. But, once again, having Jaycito in the Wood will make it a better race, he is, afterall, one of the top Derby horses, and it'd be cool to have a race with several of the better Derby hopefuls facing off in the same race for a change.

Win or lose, no doubt Mo will have lots to say on his facebook page:lol:

Dahoss9698
03-31-2011, 08:44 PM
It won't matter to me if UM beats Jaycito by 10 in the Wood...it's the Derby that really counts. But, once again, having Jaycito in the Wood will make it a better race, he is, afterall, one of the top Derby horses, and it'd be cool to have a race with several of the better Derby hopefuls facing off in the same race for a change.

Win or lose, no doubt Mo will have lots to say on his facebook page:lol:

The Derby isn't all that really counts. That attitude is why racing is the way it is now.

Jaycito isn't one of the top Derby horses. He has yet to run a good race on dirt and his claim to fame is a gallop out in the Juvenile.

I'd love nothing more than to see the Wood be a great race. Jaycito isn't going to make that happen.

Casino
04-01-2011, 01:41 PM
Kentucky Derby Future Wager - Pool 3

1 Animal Kingdom 30-1

2 Anthony’s Cross 50-1

3 Astrology 50-1

4 Brethren 50-1

5 Comma to the Top 50-1

6 Dialed In 10-1

7 Decisive Moment 50-1

8 Elite Alex 30-1

9 Jaycito 20-1

10 Mr. Commons 50-1

11 Mucho Macho Man 30-1

12 Nehro 30-1

13 Pants On Fire 20-1

14 Premier Pegasus 8-1

15 Santiva 30-1

16 Silver Medallion 30-1

17 Soldat 10-1

18 Stay Thirsty 20-1

19 The Factor 6-1

20 To Honor and Serve 15-1

21 Twice the Appeal 50-1

22 Uncle Mo 3-1

23 Watch Me Go 50-1

24 Mutuel Field (All Other 3 YOs) 10-1


Uncle Mo 3/1,The Factor 6/1,underlay maybe a understatement.I will split my wager in this pool $50 a piece on Premier Pegasus and another $50 on Jaycito.Total so far $450 on Jaycito and $50 on Premier Pegasus taking the month helped financially.
__________________

Tom
04-01-2011, 02:18 PM
I think you will get better odds on Derby day on some of these if they make it.

Red Knave
04-01-2011, 05:44 PM
I think you will get better odds on Derby day on some of these if they make it.
Sage advice.
The one and only time I made a future wager was 1988 on Seeking the Gold. I think I got 6-1 and he wound up 15-1, not that that helped him or me.

Casino
04-02-2011, 09:14 AM
Trainer Bob Baffert said on Friday that he has yet to finalize a decision for Jaycito’s next start, with the options the $1 million Santa Anita Derby or the $1 million Wood Memorial at Aqueduct, both on April 9.

“I’ll see how he works,” Baffert said.

Jaycito, who is expected to work this weekend, was second to Premier Pegasus in the Grade 2 San Felipe Stakes over 1 1/16 miles on March


Word is The Factor will return to the Ark Derby,im not sure how Jaycito 's work will make the decision for Baffert.Hes been back and forth,hmmm,maybe he knows something we dont!;)

Bennie
04-02-2011, 10:17 AM
this happened last year or the year before, don't remember which horse is was but they hemmed and hauded for weeks and finally said there was something wrong with the horse and never ran. the only thing I can figure is something is wrong or they are waiting to see what everybody else is doing before making a decision. if the horse is ready run him.

Casino
04-02-2011, 03:57 PM
Saturday, Jaycito worked six furlongs in 1:13.40, and galloped out seven furlongs in 1:26, according to Baffert. Jockey Martin Garcia was aboard for the workout and will ride Jaycito next weekend.

“He was steady,” Baffert said. “I didn’t want him to do too much. He’s progressed. Before, he wouldn’t work by himself.”

Im taking a guess Jaycito will run in the tougher of the 2 races.

Casino
04-02-2011, 04:05 PM
Everything went smooth,” trainer Bob Baffert said. “I just gave him an even work the whole way around; nothing too strenuous. Usually, I work him in company, but he went by himself this morning. I didn’t want him to do a lot. Sometimes he does too much when I work him in company. He started picking it up at the end and galloped out (six furlongs) in 1:26 1/5.”



Baffert at one time had considered the April 9 Wood Memorial (gr. I) for Jaycito’s next start, but started to lean toward staying home and not have to ship cross-country.



Baffert said The Factor (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/thoroughbred/the-factor/2008?source=BHonline) is doing great after taking several days to bounce back from his brilliant Rebel Stakes (gr. II) victory. He is expected to ship back to Oaklawn on April 12 for the Arkansas Derby (gr. I).



Premier Pegasus worked right after Jaycito, and Baffert was impressed with what he saw.



“I wish I knew he was working; I would have broke off behind him,” Baffert said. “He looked good and he did it the right way. He picked it up at the three-eighths pole.”



Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62263/jaycito-staying-home-for-santa-anita-derby#ixzz1IOkF0N59

joanied
04-02-2011, 07:48 PM
The Derby isn't all that really counts. That attitude is why racing is the way it is now.

Jaycito isn't one of the top Derby horses. He has yet to run a good race on dirt and his claim to fame is a gallop out in the Juvenile.

I'd love nothing more than to see the Wood be a great race. Jaycito isn't going to make that happen.

Well...it's a moot point now...he's going in the SA Derby, which looks to be a barn burner of a race:jump: ...I can't wait to see if Premier Pegasus keeps it up...I really like that colt!!

I'll give ya Jaycito not being a top Derby horse as far as the top ten goes...even Seigle hasn't got him on his 'Elite Eight' list...we'll see what he does in the SA Derby...

I doubt we'll see a great race in the Wood...small field and Mo will have it his way, IMO...
you should know by now that my 'attitude' is never about just one race...I am not a fan of all the so called Derby preps...I'd rather they be good stakes races on their own, not labled preps...but it is what it is...at this point in time, they are all on the same road, they all have one goal in mind...the Kentucky Derby...so please don't single me out as having some kind of attitude...I know what has made racing what it is today...I've been around a long time:)

Casino
04-02-2011, 09:59 PM
Jaycito has had 1 race this year a good 2nd after a 5 month layoff.Who cares where he ranks, Jaycito has a proven trainer Baffert whos been down this road before.If Jaycito had finished 2nd by 2 lengths against Premier Pegasus it would be a different story.The so called hype would still be there.
Remember these are prep races with the intend to get the horse ready for the 1st Sat of May.
Premier Pegasus is a great prep derby horse,Mucho Macho Man another great prep derby horse,The Factor,Uncle Mo they all look good winning there prep races.IMO they have no shot to win at 1 1/4,i dont care how good they look winning there prep races.Come May they will be all even.I know one thing is for sure 1 1/4 wont be a problem for Jaycito.

Pell Mell
04-02-2011, 10:18 PM
Jaycito has had 1 race this year a good 2nd after a 5 month layoff.Who cares where he ranks, Jaycito has a proven trainer Baffert whos been down this road before.If Jaycito had finished 2nd by 2 lengths against Premier Pegasus it would be a different story.The so called hype would still be there.
Remember these are prep races with the intend to get the horse ready for the 1st Sat of May.
Premier Pegasus is a great prep derby horse,Mucho Macho Man another great prep derby horse,The Factor,Uncle Mo they all look good winning there prep races.IMO they have no shot to win at 1 1/4,i dont care how good they look winning there prep races.Come May they will be all even.I know one thing is for sure 1 1/4 wont be a problem for Jaycito.

Just out of curiosity, what got you all hyped up over Jaycito in the first place?

plainolebill
04-02-2011, 10:43 PM
I'm not positive but I think Jaycito needs a good placement in his next race to make the Derby field.

Pell Mell
04-03-2011, 04:44 AM
I'm not positive but I think Jaycito needs a good placement in his next race to make the Derby field.

And that's why Baffert ain't sending him to face MO:D

Casino
04-03-2011, 08:17 AM
Just out of curiosity, what got you all hyped up over Jaycito in the first place?

First go take a look at his 2 year old season, a maiden win a grade 1,his trainer at the time (Mit) isnt known for training derby horses.Hasnt run a bad race in his entire career ,even in the BC race where he bolted, first time on dirt surface, he spotted the field 30 lenghts and finished with a strong gallop.Jaycito is a goofy and very immatured horse.After the BC the horse was changed into Bafferts barn for one reason-to win the Derby.Baffert had his hands full and thats why it took til March to get Jaycito back to the races.
I have a couple of friends out west who know Baffert and once in a while i recieved a update on how Jaycito was training.The San Felipe was a good race in which Baffert accomplished what he wanted.Baffert chose the SA derby clearly because it was the tougher of the 2 major preps.The Wood is a coming up a very weak race,in which Uncle Mo will dictate the pace and have 5 outclassed horses chasing him around the track.The tougher prep imo is the better prep.Jaycito has tremendous upside.I think he will win the Derby and i think Baffert thinks the same,as he said after Jaycito's last race"this isnt the derby,yet"
I could be wrong about this horse,maybe i hes a plodder,and a horse who cant get his s$%t together,but for now i will take my chance with and im sure Baffert will too.

Striker
04-03-2011, 11:44 AM
Jaycito has had 1 race this year a good 2nd after a 5 month layoff.Who cares where he ranks, Jaycito has a proven trainer Baffert whos been down this road before.If Jaycito had finished 2nd by 2 lengths against Premier Pegasus it would be a different story.The so called hype would still be there.
Remember these are prep races with the intend to get the horse ready for the 1st Sat of May.
Premier Pegasus is a great prep derby horse,Mucho Macho Man another great prep derby horse,The Factor,Uncle Mo they all look good winning there prep races.IMO they have no shot to win at 1 1/4,i dont care how good they look winning there prep races.Come May they will be all even.I know one thing is for sure 1 1/4 wont be a problem for Jaycito.
Why does Premier Pegasus not have a shot to win at 1 1/4 miles? I have thoughts on why you say this about the other horses listed, but I cannot figure out why you would say that about PP.

Casino
04-03-2011, 12:28 PM
Why does Premier Pegasus not have a shot to win at 1 1/4 miles? I have thoughts on why you say this about the other horses listed, but I cannot figure out why you would say that about PP..3
Fair question only one horse has ever won the derby with Mr.Prospector line,Fusaichi Pegasus being that horse.I do think PP could win the derby,but i think we saw his best race.

Pell Mell
04-03-2011, 01:05 PM
.3
Fair question only one horse has ever won the derby with Mr.Prospector line,Fusaichi Pegasus being that horse.I do think PP could win the derby,but i think we saw his best race.

Rather contradictory don't you think since J is a G Grandson of MR P?

Don't get me wrong, I love his pedigree which is one of the very best on the trail this year.
I don't think PP will be anywhere around at the finish of the SAD.

Casino
04-03-2011, 06:26 PM
Rather contradictory don't you think since J is a G Grandson of MR P?

Don't get me wrong, I love his pedigree which is one of the very best on the trail this year.
I don't think PP will be anywhere around at the finish of the SAD.

I meant FP was out of MP.J is a great great grandson of MP.The FD was a joke aint no horse from the east winning the Derby.

Casino
04-06-2011, 07:02 PM
In previous posts i haved stated Jaycito imo would not win the SA DERBY.Baffert has Jaycito ready and with the readdition of the blinkers Jaycito will be a bit closer.After having success with them on Baffert took them in order for him to sit back and get some dirt in his face.Info leads to a different plan,different ride,different result.His last work was huge,Baffert wants Jaycito best race Saturday,and he will get it.Garcia will have his eye on PP,this time he wont get away.He will run down any horse in at the top of the stretch Saturday.
Keep a eye on Bafferts other horse Midnite Interlude.

Casino
04-06-2011, 08:09 PM
He wasn’t very focused,” Baffert said. “He never laid his body down. He wasn’t tired after the race. He didn’t look like a horse who had put out.”

Talented horse and also goofy.

Casino
04-06-2011, 09:22 PM
“I was leery about running him back here because horses with his [closing] style weren’t doing that well until recently,” Baffert said. “But shipping could take something out of him, we won’t have to face [unbeaten champion and probable Kentucky Derby (http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/triple-crown/about-the-kentucky-derby.aspx) Presented by Yum! Brands (G1) favorite] Uncle Mo (http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/triple-crown/contender-detail.aspx?contenderno=1968), and the weather is good here.

“Plus, I think he’s got a good chance to win the race. Our main concern is to have him ready for the next one. This should set him up perfect for the Kentucky Derby.”

Yep should set him up perfectly for the derby Mr.Baffert,thank you.

Casino
04-06-2011, 09:26 PM
“He needs Kentucky,” Baffert said Tuesday. “He needs a mile and a quarter. I just want to get a race out of him here, keep him healthy and go to the next one. Jaycito needs a lot of racing luck, he needs pace and (the competition) to come back to him a bit. And he's not going to get that until the Derby. So why ship him all over the country and take a chance of him getting sick or something happening?”

Baffert, who has won a record five Santa Anita Derbys, said he'll be satisfied “as long as he can be 1-2-3, as long as you don't regress.”

Entries for the Santa Anita Derby and Wood, both at 11/8 miles, will be taken today.

Jaycito finished second in the March 12 San Felipe, losing by 7¾ lengths to Premier Pegasus, the Santa Anita Derby favorite.

“He needed the race the other day,” Baffert said. “He was a little flat, I thought. He picked up the pieces. He ran second just because he's a class horse.”

The San Felipe was the Zayat Stables-owned colt's first race with Baffert. Trained last year by Mike Mitchell, Jaycito was second as a maiden in the Del Mar Futurity before winning the Grade I Norfolk over Santa Anita's then-synthetic surface.

In the Breeders' Cup Juvenile at Churchill Downs, he bolted toward the outside fence coming out of the first turn, trailing the field by more than 24 lengths before making a run to be seventh.

Baffert took off the blinkers that Jaycito wore in every race at 2.

“He was completely not focused at all during the race, but he did make all the turns,” he said of the San Felipe. “That's what I was worried about.”

(Page 2 of 2)


The blinkers will return for the Santa Anita Derby, Baffert said. “I think he'll be a lot more focused. He won't be so far back.”

The Factor in Arkansas

Baffert said the record-setting The Factor will return to Oaklawn Park for next week's $1 million Arkansas Derby. After taking Santa Anita's San Vicente (beating Premier Pegasus), The Factor captured Oaklawn's 11/16-mile Rebel in his first start around two turns.

“Oaklawn is more of a demanding racetrack,” Baffert said. “When he ran there, he really got a lot out of it.”

Stay Thirsty on trail

Trainer Todd Pletcher says Gotham winner Stay Thirsty, who finished sixth in the Florida Derby on Saturday while racing in blinkers for the first time, will leave for Churchill this Thursday for training (#), with an eye toward the Kentucky Derby.

“Stay Thirsty seemed to come out of the Florida Derby in good shape,” he said. “For some reason he didn't seem to fire on the day. I don't have a real explanation for it yet, (but) he physically came out of it well. We'll get him to Churchill and see how he trains. But we haven't lost confidence in him.”

Stay Thirsty, a son of 2006 3-year-old champion Bernardini, was second in Saratoga's Grade I Hopeful last year and won the Gotham off a layoff. He is owned by Mike Repole, who also owns Uncle Mo.

Pluck heads stakes

at Keeneland opening

Pluck, Team Valor International's winner of the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf last fall, will face nine rivals in the $100,000, Grade III Transylvania as Keeneland kicks off its 15-day spring meet Friday.

The 3-year-old colt is being pointed toward either the Irish or French 2000 Guineas.

Pluck finished fourth March 12 at Tampa Bay Downs in his first race at 3 and first since joining trainer Graham Motion's stable. Garrett Gomez, who rode him in the Breeders' Cup when he was trained by Todd Pletcher, is back aboard.

Also in the field for the 1 1/16-mile turf stakes are Gulfstream's Dania Beach winner Adirondack Summer and Air Support, who captured Belmont's Pilgrim last fall and is making his 2011 debut.

Jennie Rees can be reached at (502) 582-4042.

Striker
04-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Jaycito might not even run in the SA Derby. Baffert has said it will be a game time decision because of a foot issue.

AgainstAllOdds
04-08-2011, 03:40 PM
Baffert says he has a foot abscess. Whether he runs or not is questionable, but I won't be betting him if he does. Actually, I wasn't going to bet him anyway, but along with Premier Pegaus being off the Derby trail, there is a chance this one could be also.

OntheRail
04-08-2011, 06:49 PM
Jaycito might not even run in the SA Derby. Baffert has said it will be a game time decision because of a foot issue.
Scratched

Zayat Stables’ Jaycito, who has been battling a right front foot bruise for several days, was scratched from the April 9 Santa Anita Derby (gr. I) the day before the race in Southern California.

Read more: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62367/jaycito-scratched-from-sa-derby#ixzz1IyUo8ZT8

Casino
04-08-2011, 09:14 PM
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

point given
04-08-2011, 09:59 PM
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Jaycito is now out

http://www.drf.com/news/jaycito-miss-santa-anita-derby

Sekrah
04-08-2011, 10:04 PM
Ughh... There goes the two favorites and my value on Mr. Commons.

Two easy toss favorites scratched. So frustrating.

Casino
04-08-2011, 10:11 PM
Ughh... There goes the two favorites and my value on Mr. Commons.

Two easy toss favorites scratched. So frustrating.

This is a great game imo Mr.Commons had zero chance to win this race before the scratches and even without PP and Jaycito,Mr.Commons has imo zero chance.

Sekrah
04-09-2011, 12:39 AM
This is a great game imo Mr.Commons had zero chance to win this race before the scratches and even without PP and Jaycito,Mr.Commons has imo zero chance.


LOL.. Jaycito is a complete and total fraud. A legend in your own mind. This scratch saved you alot of embarassment in this thread.

Dahoss9698
04-09-2011, 12:54 AM
LOL.. Jaycito is a complete and total fraud. A legend in your own mind. This scratch saved you alot of embarassment in this thread.

While I agree in regards to Jaycito, at least Casino doesn't disappear when his opinion is wrong. He owns it, which is a lot more than you can say.

redshift1
04-09-2011, 01:18 AM
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(


I remember betting him in the BC and still think he has a lot of ability. maybe down the road he resurfaces.

plainolebill
04-09-2011, 01:21 AM
I don't see any standouts now and the race seems up for grabs without Jcto or PP so I may take a shot with Bench Points. Bejerano comes back and with 2nd route he has every right to improve.

I don't like Silver Medallion at a short price, I want to see him run on the dirt. Harty's horse looks like he wants to run with the pace and there's some others that are going to want that spot. Just my uneducated, unwashed opinion. Good luck tomorrow.

Casino
04-09-2011, 08:09 AM
LOL.. Jaycito is a complete and total fraud. A legend in your own mind. This scratch saved you alot of embarassment in this thread.

Listen buddy you have the wrong one,you could be critical of my derby pick and any other picks i post im ok with it,im not ok when you try to make me look like a fool.
Yes i made a mistake with Jaycito thinking he was a derby horse but hell most of us do.I admit i turned myself into a fan instead of a handicappe rand it cost me.I learned my lesson.
BTW can you please post your derby pick before the race,thanks.

Now you could get lost!

Tom
04-09-2011, 10:27 AM
Jaycito is out - I knew that Thursday.

Beyer had an "87" for sale on e bay, so I figured he didn't need it.:D

Casino
04-09-2011, 08:20 PM
Ughh... There goes the two favorites and my value on Mr. Commons.

Two easy toss favorites scratched. So frustrating.

:lol:

Casino
04-09-2011, 08:21 PM
:ThmbUp:This is a great game imo Mr.Commons had zero chance to win this race before the scratches and even without PP and Jaycito,Mr.Commons has imo zero chance.

:ThmbUp:

Casino
04-09-2011, 08:22 PM
In previous posts i haved stated Jaycito imo would not win the SA DERBY.Baffert has Jaycito ready and with the readdition of the blinkers Jaycito will be a bit closer.After having success with them on Baffert took them in order for him to sit back and get some dirt in his face.Info leads to a different plan,different ride,different result.His last work was huge,Baffert wants Jaycito best race Saturday,and he will get it.Garcia will have his eye on PP,this time he wont get away.He will run down any horse in at the top of the stretch Saturday.
Keep a eye on Bafferts other horse Midnite Interlude.

Yes i had a small bet on Bafferts horse!

Casino
04-09-2011, 08:27 PM
[QUOTE=Sekrah]LOL.. Jaycito is a complete and total fraud. A legend in your own mind. This scratch saved you alot of embarassment in this thread.[/QUote

If Jaycito is a fraud what does that make Mr.Commons?

Pell Mell
04-09-2011, 08:46 PM
What the hell was Joel doing with Anthony? His best races were right on the pace or stalking and Joel takes him back right out of the gate. :bang: :bang:

God, if horses would only run without jockasses on their back!

Casino
04-09-2011, 11:17 PM
Dear Lord,

Please help get Jaycito to the starting gate on Saturday May 7,2011.


Yours Truly,
Casino

After watching the Wood,the Fla derby,and the SA derby,i had the right horse picked all this time,im back on board folks,Jaycito will run them down in the derby!

Sekrah
04-09-2011, 11:22 PM
[QUOTE=Sekrah]LOL.. Jaycito is a complete and total fraud. A legend in your own mind. This scratch saved you alot of embarassment in this thread.[/QUote

If Jaycito is a fraud what does that make Mr.Commons?


It makes me the holder of the trifecta times 6. Try thorograph forums.

Casino
04-09-2011, 11:27 PM
[QUOTE=Casino]


It makes me the holder of the trifecta times 6. Try thorograph forums.


:rolleyes: theres a redboard thread in general discussion.

Striker
04-09-2011, 11:46 PM
Dear Lord,

Please help get Jaycito to the starting gate on Saturday May 7,2011.


Yours Truly,
Casino

After watching the Wood,the Fla derby,and the SA derby,i had the right horse picked all this time,im back on board folks,Jaycito will run them down in the derby!
Casino- Thought I read somewhere that they are trying for the Lexington? Have you heard the same, or is it straight to the Derby if healthy?

Casino
04-09-2011, 11:50 PM
Lexington and i dont expect him to win!

AgainstAllOdds
04-10-2011, 01:44 PM
Your signature says "Jaycito has won the Derby"...yet you don't think he can go to Lexington and win? I don't see him going anywhere right now with a foot abscess, but then again he was never the Baffert horse I liked.

Time to change that siggy line. You are confusing. :bang:

Casino
04-10-2011, 03:30 PM
Your signature says "Jaycito has won the Derby"...yet you don't think he can go to Lexington and win? I don't see him going anywhere right now with a foot abscess, but then again he was never the Baffert horse I liked.

Time to change that siggy line. You are confusing. :bang:

Whats confusing,i think he could win the derby,and the lexington is a prep.The goal is the derby not the Lexington.

joanied
04-10-2011, 06:17 PM
At this point, I wouldn't count anybody out:) ...I just hope that abscess heals well because those damned things can be a royal pain in the butt!!
I'm with Casino on Jaycito...he's still on my Derby list...the BIG horse got beat...which kinda moves all the other top horses up a notch...

AgainstAllOdds
04-10-2011, 06:19 PM
Jaycito needed the race this past weekend. He can't run a prep race about 12 days before the derby..win, lose or draw, and come back and run the Derby and be worth anything.

Casino
04-10-2011, 06:25 PM
Jaycito needed the race this past weekend. He can't run a prep race about 12 days before the derby..win, lose or draw, and come back and run the Derby and be worth anything.

Didnt Charasmatic win the Lexington and come back and won the derby?I could be wrong.

Casino
04-10-2011, 06:26 PM
At this point, I wouldn't count anybody out:) ...I just hope that abscess heals well because those damned things can be a royal pain in the butt!!
I'm with Casino on Jaycito...he's still on my Derby list...the BIG horse got beat...which kinda moves all the other top horses up a notch...

Joanied how bad is a abscess?Can horses rebound back quickly?And normally how long does it take?

Sekrah
04-10-2011, 06:33 PM
Jaycito needed the race this past weekend. He can't run a prep race about 12 days before the derby..win, lose or draw, and come back and run the Derby and be worth anything.

This is a ridiculous statement.

Sekrah
04-10-2011, 06:42 PM
:lol:

I guess all those horses who came back to run in 2 weeks in the Preakness, AND WIN (97,98,99,02,03,04,08) were just flukes?

Never mind Charismatic came back within 2 weeks to win the Derby, he did it in the Preakness too.

The assertion that no one can win the Derby with just 2 weeks off before it is patently ridiculous.

joanied
04-10-2011, 06:47 PM
Joanied how bad is a abscess?Can horses rebound back quickly?And normally how long does it take?

Good questions, Casino...no easy answers!
It depends on how bad it is...sometimes they'll pop and drain quickly and heal just fine...other times they seem to drag on forever...so, like I said, no easy answers.
I've dealt with some that are healed up in two weeks, a few others that took several weeks to completely heal. I don't know just where in the foot Jaycito's abscess is located and how deep it goes...but at least he'll get the best in treatment, so let's hope he's 100% by time for his Lexington Stakes.

If you are really curious, you can just Google equine hoof abscess and get lots to read up on.

Hope this helps:)

Pell Mell
04-10-2011, 08:28 PM
Jaycito needed the race this past weekend. He can't run a prep race about 12 days before the derby..win, lose or draw, and come back and run the Derby and be worth anything.

Geez, I don't know anything about stats but it seems that I heard that years ago horses use to come back in a week or less and win.

Anybody got any derby stats on that stuff?

AgainstAllOdds
04-10-2011, 08:46 PM
Do you know why there has been no TC winner in years? The races are close together, and no horse in this day and age can accomplish that feat. The same could be said for Jaycito running 12 days before the Derby, but I guess only time will tell.

Besides, Baffert says the abscess is badly infected. Jaycito may not be running anywhere for awhile.

This isn't years ago, and the breeding of horses has taken a big nosedive. They just aren't making them like they used to.

Sekrah
04-10-2011, 09:29 PM
Do you know why there has been no TC winner in years?

Purely bad luck. With any luck at all, we could have had 2 or 3 in the past 15 years. (Real Quiet, Silver Charm, Charismatic, War Emblem, Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex). 5 of those 6 ran big in the Belmont as their 3rd race in 5 weeks.. The one who didn't, War Emblem, was hurt coming out of the gate. The other 5 ran huge all 3 races and had a shot in the stretch (in Afleet Alex's case, his bad luck happened in the Derby, but he ran huge in all 3 races).

The races are close together, and no horse in this day and age can accomplish that feat. The same could be said for Jaycito running 12 days before the Derby, but I guess only time will tell.


I just proved that more than 50% of the horses in the past 13 years have run huge Derbies and come back to win the Preakness against fresh horses. A handful of those have come back in 3 more weeks and run very strong Belmonts. And your argument to that is, "nobody can accomplish the feat." Well done.



Besides, Baffert says the abscess is badly infected. Jaycito may not be running anywhere for awhile.


That's a different issue altogether.

AgainstAllOdds
04-10-2011, 09:46 PM
Almost does not count in TC races...almost won isn't cutting it. The fact is there have been no TC winners in years.

The subject was actually Jaycito. You know the one you always think is such a piece of crap horse. I've read your posts before. You are just slightly full of yourself, and normally your opinions are just that...taken with a grain of salt.

There was a time 3-year-olds didn't retire either.

Sekrah
04-10-2011, 09:48 PM
Almost does not count in TC races...almost won isn't cutting it. The fact is there have been no TC winners in years.


Great argument. Not. Classic results oriented nonsense I'd expect from a rank amatuer.


The subject was actually Jaycito. You know the one you always think is such a piece of crap horse.

It was about Jaycito. Until you made the not-so-bright comment that a horse can't win the Derby with a prep 2 weeks before, but apparently they can win the Preakness with a "prep" 2 weeks before that, and apparently they can win the Belmont with a "prep" 3 weeks before that.

But a prep 2 weeks before the derby? Not possible.. :lol:

AgainstAllOdds
04-10-2011, 09:59 PM
But, you are the guy that is all mouth when it comes to calling Jaycito crap, so really what you think doesn't matter to me.

Do you have to be a pro to be here? I didn't see the rules on the door to be honest with you. I'm a pretty good handicapper though, and I'm thinking we shall see who is going to have the last laugh here.

Jaycito would be running 4 races with short rest if he ran 2 weeks before the Derby. That would be quite a feat and I don't see it happening. I guess you don't either, because you continually put the horse down....so why pop in here now? You have the wrong girl if you are looking for a good argument. Now scat...take on some of the big boys that put you in your place on a daily basis. :lol:

Striker
04-10-2011, 11:31 PM
Geez, I don't know anything about stats but it seems that I heard that years ago horses use to come back in a week or less and win.

Anybody got any derby stats on that stuff?
Only horses to come out of the Lexington and win the KY Derby were

1. Charismatic who won the Lexington in 1999
2. Swale who finished 2nd in the 1984 Lexington

Charismatic went from 3rd in the EL Camino in March to 4th in the Santa Anita Derby 1 month later, then won the Lexington 15 days later, won the Ky Derby, won the Preakness, and finished 3rd in the Belmont. That gave him 17 races by the Belmont which would be his last race. Uncle Mo will have 8 if he races in all 3 races of the triple crown. Very telling on how racing has changed.

PaceAdvantage
04-11-2011, 12:06 AM
The subject was actually Jaycito. You know the one you always think is such a piece of crap horse. I've read your posts before. You are just slightly full of yourself, and normally your opinions are just that...taken with a grain of salt.This is the same person who was just getting on Dahoss9698's case for posting with an attitude in the Uncle Mo thread? :lol:

Sekrah
04-11-2011, 12:20 AM
Only horses to come out of the Lexington and win the KY Derby were

1. Charismatic who won the Lexington in 1999
2. Swale who finished 2nd in the 1984 Lexington

Charismatic went from 3rd in the EL Camino in March to 4th in the Santa Anita Derby 1 month later, then won the Lexington 15 days later, won the Ky Derby, won the Preakness, and finished 3rd in the Belmont. That gave him 17 races by the Belmont which would be his last race. Uncle Mo will have 8 if he races in all 3 races of the triple crown. Very telling on how racing has changed.


The only reason just 2 have come out of the Lexington is that the best 3 year olds don't run in the Lexington. The vast majority of the entrants in the Derby run in the Fla, Wood, SA, Ark, Ill Derbies 4 weeks prior. So the vast majority of Derby winners will also comes from those races.

It has nothing to do with it being "2 weeks before the derby". Does anyone believe that if Big Brown ran in the Lexington in 08, he wouldn't have won the Derby?

Casino
04-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Jaycito, scratched from the Santa Anita Derby on Saturday because of a sore foot, returned to the track to train at Santa Anita on Monday morning and is on course to make the Coolmore Lexington Stakes at Keeneland on April 23, trainer Bob Baffert said Monday.

Baffert is at Keeneland for the 2-year-olds in training sale, but said reports from assistant Jim Barnes at Santa Anita were that Jaycito "looked good."

"We got the soreness out of the foot," Baffert said.

Jaycito finished second in last month's San Felipe Stakes in his first start of the year, and for Baffert. The Lexington would be his final

Yesssssssssssss!

elhelmete
04-11-2011, 01:43 PM
I claim no superior knowledge in this area by any means, but this seems awfully quick to get back on the track. I suppose maybe not for a slow jog, but...

Striker
04-11-2011, 01:58 PM
The only reason just 2 have come out of the Lexington is that the best 3 year olds don't run in the Lexington. The vast majority of the entrants in the Derby run in the Fla, Wood, SA, Ark, Ill Derbies 4 weeks prior. So the vast majority of Derby winners will also comes from those races.

It has nothing to do with it being "2 weeks before the derby". Does anyone believe that if Big Brown ran in the Lexington in 08, he wouldn't have won the Derby?
Actually in the last 5 years the race that has produced the most starters every year from 2006 except for 2010 has been the Bluegrass. Last year the Ark Derby had the most with 4 entries and the Bluegrass had 3. In 2006 the Bluegrass was tied with the Wood as both having 4 go. And I wouldn't include the IL Derby on the list of vast majority list of entries and Derby winners. There has been only 1 and quite possibly may never be another winner to come out of the IL Derby with the troubles that we are having with IL racing and purse structure. The winner this year wasn't even TC nominated. The last few years usually produced 2 or 3 entries from the IL Derby.

Sekrah
04-11-2011, 03:16 PM
I claim no superior knowledge in this area by any means, but this seems awfully quick to get back on the track. I suppose maybe not for a slow jog, but...


5 days before the Derby, Hard Spun ripped off a 5 furlong workout over the Churchull main (57.3) that woulda won graded sprint stakes and everyone predicted this would cook his chances in the Derby. He went on to finish 2nd.

And again, how do all these horses that win the Derby, also go on to win the Preakness in only 2 weeks rest?

Dahoss9698
04-11-2011, 03:23 PM
5 days before the Derby, Hard Spun ripped off a 5 furlong workout over the Churchull main (57.3) that woulda won graded sprint stakes and everyone predicted this would cook his chances in the Derby. He went on to finish 2nd.

And again, how do all these horses that win the Derby, also go on to win the Preakness in only 2 weeks rest?

I think he is referring to the fact Jaycito was scratched Saturday because of an abcess, yet on the track two days later.

elhelmete
04-11-2011, 03:27 PM
I think he is referring to the fact Jaycito was scratched Saturday because of an abcess, yet on the track two days later.

I was.

I am curious if Jaycito really was working with a bar shoe in the time leading up to the SA Derby, as was reported.

Casino
04-11-2011, 03:42 PM
I was.

I am curious if Jaycito really was working with a bar shoe in the time leading up to the SA Derby, as was reported.

He was.

joanied
04-11-2011, 06:51 PM
If Jaycito was working in a bar shoe leading up to the SA Derby, then he's had that abcess longer than I (we)thought...I was under the impression it happened just a few days before the SA Derby, evidently it's been there and has finally healed up...that's the conclusion I'm getting to anyway.

Bennie
04-11-2011, 07:08 PM
thought Baffert had said it was there but it hadn't healed to their satisfaction to run him in the SA Derby

joanied
04-11-2011, 07:12 PM
thought Baffert had said it was there but it hadn't healed to their satisfaction to run him in the SA Derby

Ah...that sounds right. Hadn't heard that, but no doubt that's the story.
Thanks!

Sekrah
04-11-2011, 11:46 PM
Ah...that sounds right. Hadn't heard that, but no doubt that's the story.
Thanks!

I heard from a credible source of mine at Santa Anita that Jaycito is fine. I heard that Baffert loved Midnight Interlude for 1 1/4 so much he wanted Jaycito out of the race to clear the path for him to get the earnings. I posted this information prior to the SA Derby.

Dahoss9698
04-11-2011, 11:52 PM
I heard from a credible source of mine at Santa Anita that Jaycito is fine. I heard that Baffert loved Midnight Interlude for 1 1/4 so much he wanted Jaycito out of the race to clear the path for him to get the earnings. I posted this information prior to the SA Derby.

I laughed.

Sekrah
04-12-2011, 12:00 AM
I laughed.

Glad I returned the favor. I laugh at you 12 times a day.

Dahoss9698
04-12-2011, 12:05 AM
Glad I returned the favor. I laugh at you 12 times a day.

If you heard all of this prior to the SA Derby, why were you touting Mr Commons here?

Sorry, anytime someone who to this point has been nothing but a lot of hot air talks about a credible source and a story fit for a tin foil hat, it makes me laugh.

I'm weird like that.

Tread
04-12-2011, 10:18 AM
If you heard all of this prior to the SA Derby, why were you touting Mr Commons here?

Sorry, anytime someone who to this point has been nothing but a lot of hot air talks about a credible source and a story fit for a tin foil hat, it makes me laugh.

I'm weird like that.

Weird?

He didn't receive the information until about an hour prior to the race, that's why he was previously was on Mr Commons (who incidentally had a displaced palate during the race from what I read) in posts here leading up to the race. It was last min information, but nonetheless was posted prior to the race.

Sekrah frequently provides meaningful information and identifies double-digit longshots in major races on this and other boards. His posts are of infinitely greater value to these boards than yours.

Dahoss9698
04-12-2011, 10:53 AM
Weird?

He didn't receive the information until about an hour prior to the race, that's why he was previously was on Mr Commons (who incidentally had a displaced palate during the race from what I read) in posts here leading up to the race. It was last min information, but nonetheless was posted prior to the race.

Sekrah frequently provides meaningful information and identifies double-digit longshots in major races on this and other boards. His posts are of infinitely greater value to these boards than yours.

I should have known you two were friends. Water will find it's own level.

Please point me to his double digit longshots on this board. The only picks I've seen him give were last Preakness (then he disappeared for months when he was wrong because he talked shit for a week) and Mr Commons. I'm not impressed.

Tread
04-12-2011, 01:47 PM
I should have known you two were friends. Water will find it's own level.

Please point me to his double digit longshots on this board. The only picks I've seen him give were last Preakness (then he disappeared for months when he was wrong because he talked shit for a week) and Mr Commons. I'm not impressed.

Never met him or spoken to him, but I'm familiar with his posts. I did mention that I have seen his posts on other sites, so just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. We all know what rigourous tabs you keep on people here as to whether or not they are following up on your beligerent ramblings and answering every thread, but there are other boards than this one.

I'm not pointing you to jack squat, if you are so lazy you need information spoon-fed to you, you'll have to do without it.

Dahoss9698
04-12-2011, 02:34 PM
Never met him or spoken to him, but I'm familiar with his posts. I did mention that I have seen his posts on other sites, so just because you haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. We all know what rigourous tabs you keep on people here as to whether or not they are following up on your beligerent ramblings and answering every thread, but there are other boards than this one.

I'm not pointing you to jack squat, if you are so lazy you need information spoon-fed to you, you'll have to do without it.

Here we go again. You say something, then can't back it up so you want to go around and around. I never said these posts don't exist. I said I haven't seen it here. You said they were here, not me. Here are YOUR words


Sekrah frequently provides meaningful information and identifies double-digit longshots in major races on this.

Prove it. Let's see the double digit longshots. Otherwise it's just another ramble with no substance.

Imagine all of this because you can't identify a track bias. :lol:

PaceAdvantage
04-12-2011, 03:08 PM
Sekrah - Post Removed.

Try again.

Only this time, answer the question, or just let it go.

If you didn't post any double digit winners here, that's great. Fine. Question asked and answered.

We don't need a list of everywhere else you may or may not have posted winners. That had nothing to do with the question you are answering.

Sekrah
04-12-2011, 03:10 PM
Sekrah - Post Removed.

Try again.

Only this time, answer the question, or just let it go.

If you didn't post any double digit winners here, that's great. Fine. Question asked and answered.



He asked me to Prove It. I posted it. I posted about half dozen $60+ winners I've had in the past 3 weeks and all the evidence to my posted scores on another forum in the past year. You deleted it. Fine.

PaceAdvantage
04-12-2011, 03:14 PM
He was talking about this board only. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure he'll let us all know about it.

PaceAdvantage
04-12-2011, 03:16 PM
Actually, here's a good idea. How about we either get back to the topic of the thread, or close the thread altogether.

Sekrah
04-12-2011, 03:17 PM
He was talking about this board only. If I'm mistaken, I'm sure he'll let us all know about it.


I'm sorry that I don't have time to run to this forum everytime I see value with 2 minutes to post.

PaceAdvantage
04-12-2011, 03:19 PM
I'm sorry that I don't have time to run to this forum everytime I see value with 2 minutes to post.It was a simple question. Either you posted some here, and Tread was mistaken and Dahoss was correct, or it's the other way around.

Nobody expects you to run anywhere anytime you see value with 2 minutes to post. Not only that, nobody asked you to...

Sekrah
04-12-2011, 03:27 PM
They could be here, I have no idea. PaceAdvantage.Com isn't quite the center of my universe.

People know me from other forums. They could have mistakenly thought one of my many $60+ bombers from the past month were posted here.

cj
04-12-2011, 03:30 PM
Why do I feel like I've stumbled into 3rd grade recess?

PaceAdvantage
04-12-2011, 03:31 PM
Thanks for making my decision easy.