Unemployment is now down to 8.9%

[Robert Goren]

There is a reason none of the big name tea party Republicans are stepping up to take on Obama. They know despite their best efforts to sabotage them that Obama economic policies are working. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a 40+ state sweep in 2012. The only name Republican even showing any interest is Newt "I taught John Edwards everything he knows about cheating on a dying wife" Gingrich.

[horses4courses]

There is a reason none of the big name tea party Republicans are stepping up to take on Obama. They know despite their best efforts to sabotage them that Obama economic policies are working. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a 40+ state sweep in 2012. The only name Republican even showing any interest is Newt "I taught John Edwards everything he knows about cheating on a dying wife" Gingrich.
:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yl3UMO-TkE

:cool:

[Tom]

What about that 14 trillion dollar debt, that the dems insist on adding to nonstop?

No Bobby, they are NOT working.

[lamboguy]

What about that 14 trillion dollar debt, that the dems insist on adding to nonstop?

No Bobby, they are NOT working.gold is going to $1600 real soon!

[Sugar Ron]

Another rough day for the con doomers

BO and Uncle Ben doing a fine job pulling us out from under the economic rubble of the Great (Bush-Cheney-Cox-GOP) Recession...

[boxcar]

Another rough day for the con doomers

BO and Uncle Ben doing a fine job pulling us out from under the economic rubble of the Great (Bush-Cheney-Cox-GOP) Recession...

You have such a short memory. BO promised that unemployment would never reach 8% if he got his stimulus bill passed, remember?

Get back to us when it dips below 8%. Then we'll celebrate the delayed reaction to his lie.

Boxcar

[mostpost]

What about that 14 trillion dollar debt, that the dems insist on adding to nonstop?

No Bobby, they are NOT working.
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86
You mean the debt that was $5T when Bush came into office and $11T when he left. The debt that we got nothing for except a lot of dead American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama's share of that debt is being used to fix problems he inherited, and we are getting something for it in terms of roads being repaired, schools be fixed up and employment improving.

[Tom]

Yes, that one.
Looks like it is up about 30% since the moron took office.
That is what you call "working?"

Got a chart of the unemployment index for the same time period?

[mostpost]

Yes, that one.
Looks like it is up about 30% since the moron took office.
That is what you call "working?"

Got a chart of the unemployment index for the same time period?
001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 4.9 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.8 7.3
2009 7.8 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.7 9.8 10.1 9.9 9.9
2010 9.7 9.7 9.7 9.8 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.4
2011 9.0 8.9

Who did your homework for you in grammar school?
Note the trends. A steady rise through 2003. Then a drop for a few years. Then fairly steady through '06 and '07. Then comes disaster. A sharp rise in 2008 and into 2009 until the democrats took control of the runaway train in late 2009. Since then the trend is down; despite Republican obstructionism.

[mostpost]

Yes, that one.
Looks like it is up about 30% since the moron took office.
That is what you call "working?"

Got a chart of the unemployment index for the same time period?
You have it wrong again. The debt went from $5T to 11T while the moron was in office. That's over 100%.

[ArlJim78]

40 state sweep in 2012?:lol:

oh man Robert you've really outdone yourself this time. comedy thread of the year candidate right here.

[Saratoga_Mike]

There is a reason none of the big name tea party Republicans are stepping up to take on Obama. They know despite their best efforts to sabotage them that Obama economic policies are working. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a 40+ state sweep in 2012. The only name Republican even showing any interest is Newt "I taught John Edwards everything he knows about cheating on a dying wife" Gingrich.

The labor force participation rate was 65.7% when Obama took office. As of the Feb 2011 release, it was down to 64.2%. So there are 3.7 mm fewer people actively looking for work today than in Jan 2009. If the labor force participation rate had remained unchanged, the unemployment rate would be 11%. All of this data is from the household survey, which is the survey used to calculate the unemployment (not the establishment survey, which is the widely reported headline jobs number).

[Robert Goren]

So where are those Republicans who want run against Obama? Why haven't they announced yet? What are they waiting for? For Fox News to tell them they aren't on the payroll anymore? That seems to be only way to get one of them will actually run.

[Saratoga_Mike]

So where are those Republicans who want run against Obama? Why haven't they announced yet? What are they waiting for? For Fox News to tell them they aren't on the payroll anymore? That seems to be only way to get one of them will actually run.

The election is 20 months away. As an incumbent, I think Obama has the advantage, but there will be a full field of Reps. You know that - pls don't say otherwise. It just sounds foolish.

[johnhannibalsmith]

So where are those Republicans who want run against Obama? Why haven't they announced yet? What are they waiting for? For Fox News to tell them they aren't on the payroll anymore? That seems to be only way to get one of them will actually run.

If things get too much worse in general, Rip Torn could probably get voted in.

No need for any professional political hack to go out there and actually throw his head in the guillotine by announcing intentions and platforms when waiting to pick up the pieces of disillusionment is now the winning strategy to lead the "free (laf) world" .

[Sugar Ron]

You have such a short memory. BO promised that unemployment would never reach 8% if he got his stimulus bill passed, remember?

Get back to us when it dips below 8%. Then we'll celebrate the delayed reaction to his lie.

Boxcar

Without BO's stimulus package, you'd be living thru Great Depression II right now instead of recovering from the Great (Bush-Cheney) Recession.

Make sure you hoist a cold one in honor of BO and Uncle Ben tonight...

[Tom]

mostie.....nice data. I formatted it for you.

[DRIVEWAY]

So where are those Republicans who want run against Obama? Why haven't they announced yet? What are they waiting for? For Fox News to tell them they aren't on the payroll anymore? That seems to be only way to get one of them will actually run.

Unless there is a challenger to Obama from within his own party, recent history says he will be re-elected.
Ike 1956
LBJ 1964
Nixon 1972
Reagan 1986
Clinton 1996
Bush 2004

Problems within Party
Ford vs Reagan 1976 --Carter Wins
Carter vs Kennedy 1980 --Reagan Wins
Bush vs Peroe 1992 --Clinton Wins

Did not run because of Party Problems
LBJ 1968

If you support Palin, history says to wait til 2016. Jeb already declared he will not run. The Bush family definitely knows this history.

Let's hope Obama chooses not to run or some meaningful challenger surfaces. Otherwise, we will be stuck with him for four more years.

[Tom]

mostie.....is this the chart they sent you?

[llegend39]

There is a reason none of the big name tea party Republicans are stepping up to take on Obama. They know despite their best efforts to sabotage them that Obama economic policies are working. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a 40+ state sweep in 2012. The only name Republican even showing any interest is Newt "I taught John Edwards everything he knows about cheating on a dying wife" Gingrich.


Thats a phony Government # that doesnt take in consideration people who have stopped looking for work or are out of benefits or people like me who been unemployed on and off for 2 years that dont qualify The real #( underemployment) is around 17% If this guy re-elected im leaving the country-WE CANT TAKE ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF HIS POLICIES

[Robert Goren]

You can put up all the charts you want, but the time for a Republican to get in is running short. It takes time to raise the kind of money they need to run a campaign these days. While the money to run against Obama may be there, the money they need run against each other is limited. The republican money people are saving their cash to spend on trying to beat Obama and won't be giving it out it to so Tea Partier A can beat up on Tea Partier B and Vice Versa. The republican that waits till July is going to seriously short of money in January. I can't believe even republicans are too dumb to know that is true. But then again, I have often over estimated the intelligence of republicans in the past.

[boxcar]

But then again, I have often over estimated the intelligence of republicans in the past.

And what does that say about your smarts? ;)

Boxcar

[mostpost]

mostie.....nice data. I formatted it for you.
Once again I will ask this question. Tell me specific things which the Democratic congress did between 2007 and 2009 which caused the recession. Tell me what bills they passed and how those bills caused the unemployment to rise. Then, if you find any, explain to me why Bush didn't veto those bills. The Democrats could not have overridden a veto.

Any one of you "wrongies" feel free to answer this question. I have a feeling we are in for a long period of silence.

[mostpost]

Thats a phony Government # that doesnt take in consideration people who have stopped looking for work or are out of benefits or people like me who been unemployed on and off for 2 years that dont qualify The real #( underemployment) is around 17% If this guy re-elected im leaving the country-WE CANT TAKE ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF HIS POLICIES

It is not a phony number, because everyone who cares knows what it measures and what it does not measure. It is not accurate to say that the drop in unemployment is a mirage because people have stopped looking for work. First of all we had a large number of jobs created in the last month and have had job growth for several months. Second, if the drop in unemployment was caused by people giving up on finding full time work, then the underemployment rate would stay the same or go up. That rate was 18.4% in July 2010. It is now 17%.
Don't think that I think things are great. They are certainly not great. They are certainly not improving as fast as anyone would like, but they are improving. Thank you, Barack. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bigmack]

So little to exult in the last two years nice to see something positive in spite of what B.O. has been doing. Hail to the private sector!

Just keep Waldo from doing any more harm to the economy and we have a chance.

[Saratoga_Mike]

It is not a phony number, because everyone who cares knows what it measures and what it does not measure. It is not accurate to say that the drop in unemployment is a mirage because people have stopped looking for work. First of all we had a large number of jobs created in the last month and have had job growth for several months. Second, if the drop in unemployment was caused by people giving up on finding full time work, then the underemployment rate would stay the same or go up. That rate was 18.4% in July 2010. It is now 17%.
Don't think that I think things are great. They are certainly not great. They are certainly not improving as fast as anyone would like, but they are improving. Thank you, Barack. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're confusing the U6 with the labor force participation rate.

[JustRalph]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/04/abc-long-term-unimployed-the-new-irish/

above from HOTAIR

below from ABC


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/february-unemployment-falls-long-term-jobless-struggle/story?id=13039978

I find the above article a little surprising and maybe a little shocking. I don't remember this kind of attitude in the early 80's and other recessions.

please read about the pharma rep who was unemployed in the ABC article. very interesting.

[Capper Al]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/04/abc-long-term-unimployed-the-new-irish/

above from HOTAIR

below from ABC


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/february-unemployment-falls-long-term-jobless-struggle/story?id=13039978

I find the above article a little surprising and maybe a little shocking. I don't remember this kind of attitude in the early 80's and other recessions.

please read about the pharma rep who was unemployed in the ABC article. very interesting.

Good articles. We are creating a new underclass. Our own untouchables.

[Mike at A+]

Once again I will ask this question. Tell me specific things which the Democratic congress did between 2007 and 2009 which caused the recession. Tell me what bills they passed and how those bills caused the unemployment to rise. Then, if you find any, explain to me why Bush didn't veto those bills. The Democrats could not have overridden a veto.

Any one of you "wrongies" feel free to answer this question. I have a feeling we are in for a long period of silence.
The recession had nothing to do with "bills passed". It had EVERYTHING to do with the commonly held belief that Democrats are not business friendly. They are always looking to demonize "the rich" and the profit motive. Their version of the "American Dream" is ensuring that the underachievers of society get a bigger (and undeserved) slice of the pie. Business owners are not generally stupid people and they understand that under Democratic rule they will be viewed as evil by politicians who are more corrupt than they could ever be in their wildest dreams. The American Dream is not about sharing the wealth, it's about getting generously rewarded for your hard work and ingenuity.

Barack Obama: "There comes a time when you've made enough money".

THAT just about sums it up.

[llegend39]

It is not a phony number, because everyone who cares knows what it measures and what it does not measure. It is not accurate to say that the drop in unemployment is a mirage because people have stopped looking for work. First of all we had a large number of jobs created in the last month and have had job growth for several months. Second, if the drop in unemployment was caused by people giving up on finding full time work, then the underemployment rate would stay the same or go up. That rate was 18.4% in July 2010. It is now 17%.
Don't think that I think things are great. They are certainly not great. They are certainly not improving as fast as anyone would like, but they are improving. Thank you, Barack. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

As reported on NBC today(The Obama Network) Government officials expect the unemployment rate to rise now,saying the people that stopped looking for work who were discouraged by the economic outlook now will start again(my point) And anyway if you do find a job, you cant afford to drive there because the nitwit President wont do anything about the oil prices.

[mostpost]

The recession had nothing to do with "bills passed". It had EVERYTHING to do with the commonly held belief that Democrats are not business friendly. They are always looking to demonize "the rich" and the profit motive. Their version of the "American Dream" is ensuring that the underachievers of society get a bigger (and undeserved) slice of the pie. Business owners are not generally stupid people and they understand that under Democratic rule they will be viewed as evil by politicians who are more corrupt than they could ever be in their wildest dreams. The American Dream is not about sharing the wealth, it's about getting generously rewarded for your hard work and ingenuity.

Barack Obama: "There comes a time when you've made enough money".

THAT just about sums it up.
Democrats caused the recession because we hurt someone's feelings? :rolleyes: I'd be embarrassed to post something like that. :eek: :eek:

[ElKabong]

There is a reason none of the big name tea party Republicans are stepping up to take on Obama. They know despite their best efforts to sabotage them that Obama economic policies are working. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a 40+ state sweep in 2012. The only name Republican even showing any interest is Newt "I taught John Edwards everything he knows about cheating on a dying wife" Gingrich.

See there, I told you there one was born every minute.

Everyone on this board would do anything to have you sit at their poker table. Bank that
.

[Valuist]

So where are those Republicans who want run against Obama? Why haven't they announced yet? What are they waiting for? For Fox News to tell them they aren't on the payroll anymore? That seems to be only way to get one of them will actually run.

Paul Ryan is the best candidate but he will wait til 2016.

[Mike at A+]

Democrats caused the recession because we hurt someone's feelings? :rolleyes: I'd be embarrassed to post something like that. :eek: :eek:
Democrats caused the recession by being elected. Everyone knows how they feel about business in the private sector. Financial markets and the job market react negatively when it is anticipated that Democrats are about to take over. They're all about tax and spend and handouts of other people's money. It has nothing to do with "hurting someone's feelings". They just like to steal from people who work hard and give to scumbags who never created a job in their lives and more likely have gotten more than their share of handouts.

[Capper Al]

Democrats caused the recession by being elected. Everyone knows how they feel about business in the private sector. Financial markets and the job market react negatively when it is anticipated that Democrats are about to take over. They're all about tax and spend and handouts of other people's money. It has nothing to do with "hurting someone's feelings". They just like to steal from people who work hard and give to scumbags who never created a job in their lives and more likely have gotten more than their share of handouts.

This is like comparing 2006 thru 2009 with 2010 and 2011? The markets usually do better under dems. Better check your history.

[Mike at A+]

This is like comparing 2006 thru 2009 with 2010 and 2011? The markets usually do better under dems. Better check your history.
No need to check anything. When it BECAME APPARENT that Dems would sweep in 2006, that's when the shit hit the fan. Markets react BEFORE these things actually transpire. Just the same for 2010. When it BECAME APPARENT that Republicans would win big in 2010, the markets began the surge upward. Being AHEAD OF THE CURVE is what makes you prosper in ANY kind of market. But it isn't all about the stock market. The unemployment rate under Bush when Democrats had little voice in government was very low. When the Dems won big in 2006, it started its climb. And now that Republicans have taken the rubber stamp out of the hands of Congress, we're seeing some limited job growth. But the bottom line is that Obama still sucks and doesn't give a flying crap about the private sector. And he's a racist to boot.

[The Judge]

BIG BUSINESS the "same thing as Republicans think about Big Business." At some point a long time ago there may have been some slight differences but not today.

I don't say that there aren't perceived differences by the general public but they are illusions. Big Business spreads it around they grease everyone.


They have even been known to grease groups in foreign countries that are known enemies of the United States in oder to gain an economic advantage.

[Capper Al]

No need to check anything. When it BECAME APPARENT that Dems would sweep in 2006, that's when the shit hit the fan. Markets react BEFORE these things actually transpire. Just the same for 2010. When it BECAME APPARENT that Republicans would win big in 2010, the markets began the surge upward. Being AHEAD OF THE CURVE is what makes you prosper in ANY kind of market. But it isn't all about the stock market. The unemployment rate under Bush when Democrats had little voice in government was very low. When the Dems won big in 2006, it started its climb. And now that Republicans have taken the rubber stamp out of the hands of Congress, we're seeing some limited job growth. But the bottom line is that Obama still sucks and doesn't give a flying crap about the private sector. And he's a racist to boot.

You just don't know have the facts right and are stretching your interpretation to justify your lack of understanding of them.

[PaceAdvantage]

Paul Ryan is the best candidate but he will wait til 2016.I've been saying this for the longest time...since at least 2008...I think waiting until 2016 is his best option, both personally and professionally...

[Mike at A+]

You just don't know have the facts right and are stretching your interpretation to justify your lack of understanding of them.
The FACTS are in my very diversified investments. I track their progress daily and I know when the big ups and the big downs took place. Comparing that to political configuration of those times is not a difficult task. While it's obvious as to which way I lean politically, there's no escaping the cold hard mathematics. As for the unemployment stats, not only were they better during the early Bush years (in spite of 9/11 which most Democrats fail to even mention), it hits home for me because I personally know many highly educated, talented and accomplished people who cannot find suitable employment and thanks to the obvious racism of this president, the older, white, quality worker is not a priority of his. He is a huge failure and he obviously doesn't care about the damage he has done and continues to do.

[mostpost]

The FACTS are in my very diversified investments. I track their progress daily and I know when the big ups and the big downs took place. Comparing that to political configuration of those times is not a difficult task. While it's obvious as to which way I lean politically, there's no escaping the cold hard mathematics. As for the unemployment stats, not only were they better during the early Bush years (in spite of 9/11 which most Democrats fail to even mention), it hits home for me because I personally know many highly educated, talented and accomplished people who cannot find suitable employment and thanks to the obvious racism of this president, the older, white, quality worker is not a priority of his. He is a huge failure and he obviously doesn't care about the damage he has done and continues to do.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy.

[bigmack]

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy.
Stick to calculators.

[Mike at A+]

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy.
The correlation between prosperity and anticipated political configuration is glaring. You simply can't deny that Republicans believe in rewarding hard work while Democrats believe in spreading the wealth.

[mostpost]

The correlation between prosperity and anticipated political configuration is glaring. You simply can't deny that Republicans believe in rewarding hard work while Democrats believe in spreading the wealth.
Republicans believe in rewarding hard work. Of course they define hard work in terms of how much money you invest. Whereas Democrats define hard work in terms of how much you contribute to the success of a project.

Democrats believe in spreading the wealth, while Republicans believe in keeping it among a chosen few. A chosen few who had the least to do with creating it.

Back now to the theory that the recession was cause by the anticipation of a democratic administration. Poppycock and Balderdash!!!!! The recession was caused by the housing bubble and bust. It was caused by the derivatives bubble and bust. It was caused by stupidity in the auto industry. It was caused by dishonesty in the banking industry. It was caused by a lack of regulation and oversight by the government.

[delayjf]

It was caused by a lack of regulation and oversight by the government.

Was it a "lack" of regulation or was it a failure to enforce regulation that already existed?

[mostpost]

Was it a "lack" of regulation or was it a failure to enforce regulation that already existed?
If I thought there was a lack of rules, I would have used the term "regulations."
A noun referring to a specific set of policies. A verb which indicates an action taken, or in this case not taken.

[Tom]

It was caused by a lack of regulation and oversight by the government.

It was caused by democrats "spreading the wealth" of home ownership among many that had no chance of ever repaying the loans.

[Saratoga_Mike]

If I thought there was a lack of rules, I would have used the term "regulations."
A noun referring to a specific set of policies. A verb which indicates an action taken, or in this case not taken.

Are you referring to Larry Summers blocking any regulations for the CDS market in the late 90s? Yes, that was dumb.

[Saratoga_Mike]

It was caused by democrats "spreading the wealth" of home ownership among many that had no chance of ever repaying the loans.

Bush pushed the "home ownership for all" line, too. Both parties are guilty--Dems more so on the Fannie and Freddie front. The current disaster in the making is the FHA.

[Capper Al]

It was caused by democrats "spreading the wealth" of home ownership among many that had no chance of ever repaying the loans.

How about two wars off the books and a tax cut? Besides the housing bubble, do you think they had anything to contribute?

[Mike at A+]

How about two wars off the books and a tax cut? Besides the housing bubble, do you think they had anything to contribute?
Those two wars are still going on, housing is in the crapper and lo and behold the market is doing quite well. Now what could possibly be different? Oh, the 2010 election landslide. DOH!

[lamboguy]

if i go any worse with my horse picking i will have to quit my job and go for unemployment money too!

[Capper Al]

Those two wars are still going on, housing is in the crapper and lo and behold the market is doing quite well. Now what could possibly be different? Oh, the 2010 election landslide. DOH!

There's growth outside of the US plus 80% of the US is back on a roll. The oil might change things back around. I doubt it, but it could happen. And if it does, I'll bet you'll find a way to blame the Dems. This is the end of this dialog.

[Mike at A+]

There's growth outside of the US plus 80% of the US is back on a roll. The oil might change things back around. I doubt it, but it could happen. And if it does, I'll bet you'll find a way to blame the Dems. This is the end of this dialog.
80% of the US is back on a roll??????? I guess the public sector really did grow. As for the oil, Sarah Palin and her "drill baby drill" mantra is looking better every day. And given Obama's "day late and a dollar short" MO, I wouldn't be surprised if he finally got it someday. Who knows, he just had his awakening on Gitmo. :bang:

[llegend39]

Unemployment up 20,000 more then expected
Jan. Trade deficit-$46 BILLION

Way to go Obama administration
Heres a story all you liberal weeines should read

http://www.alternet.org/economy/150182/why_the_government's_unemployment_rate_is_dangerou sly_deceptive_--_and_the_dark_reality_it_hides[/U]
[/U]

Stimulate This!

[Robert Goren]

The posters in this thread made me proud. They took a post about why no republican has announced for president because of the improving economy and turn it into something entirely different. You rival me in going off in only a mildly related tangent. The really amazing thing is that I spend 5 days in hospital and find find it still going. When I started it, I expected about 10 replies.

[dartman51]

The posters in this thread made me proud. They took a post about why no republican has announced for president because of the improving economy and turn it into something entirely different. You rival me in going off in only a mildly related tangent. The really amazing thing is that I spend 5 days in hospital and find find it still going. When I started it, I expected about 10 replies.

5 day's in the hospital is never a good thing. I hope you're ok now. :ThmbUp:

[Tom]

Yeah, hope all is well.

[Robert Goren]

I had a blockage of the small bowel were I had surgery last fall. It dissolved and I am fine now. I was lucky to avoid another surgery, but it hurt like hell for a few days every time the morphine wore off. The Docs told me to eat less fiber. I guess I will use thinner slices of bread on my Pastrami and Swiss sandwiches. ;)

[JustRalph]

There is a reason none of the big name tea party Republicans are stepping up to take on Obama. They know despite their best efforts to sabotage them that Obama economic policies are working. They don't want to be on the wrong end of a 40+ state sweep in 2012. The only name Republican even showing any interest is Newt "I taught John Edwards everything he knows about cheating on a dying wife" Gingrich.

I was looking for another thread and found this one. I just had to bring this one back up....... how do you feel about it now?

Specifically the economy and unemployment?

still so upbeat?