Obama "selling out" U.K now???

[newtothegame]

We already know how he has snubbed Israel...now the UK?

Government WikiLeaks: US Agreed to Reveal UK’s Nuclear Secrets to Russia


In yet another (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wikileaks-al-qaeda-could-unleash-nuclear-911/) bombshell disclosure (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wikileaks-u-s-govt-secretly-backed-egyptian-dissidents-plotting-regime-change/) this week, the online site WikiLeaks is shedding disturbing new light on the “special relationship” that once bound the United States and Great Britain.

Now-public embassy cables released Friday by WikiLeaks seem to suggest that the United States secretly agreed to share sensitive information about Britain’s nuclear program in exchange for Russian cooperation in signing a key arms treaty.

According to an exclusive report from the UK’s Telegraph, the United States government agreed (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html#) to share information about every Trident missile the U.S. supplies to Britain with Russia as part of an agreement President Barack Obama is expected to sign on to next week.


<B>Details of the behind-the-scenes talks are contained in more than 1,400 US embassy cables published to date by the Telegraph, including almost 800 sent from the London Embassy, which are published online today. …</B>


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/wikileaks-us-agreed-to-reveal-uks-nuclear-secrets-to-russia/

[boxcar]

Wouldn't surprise if this is true. BO doesn't have a very high regard for the Brits -- formerly our best and most trustworthy ally.

Boxcar

[lamboguy]

can you blame him?

they didn't invite him to the wedding!

[AgainstAllOdds]

I don't think the Obama's will be getting a wedding invite anytime soon. I can't even think of a good reason why they should to be honest. :D

[ArlJim78]

by next week we may not have any allies left.

[NJ Stinks]

Damn disappointing.

[boxcar]

Damn disappointing.

Yeah...who needs friends? They're more trouble than their worth, anyway.

Boxcar

[ElKabong]

Damn disappointing.

I agree. And I appreciate your honest comment

[Tom]

Gee, wait until mostie hears this.
He was under the impression that Obama would somewhow restore the world's good opinion of us.



Seriously, he thought that.



Honest, he did!




:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[ElKabong]

Tom,

He also sorted mail for a living. A man has to know his limitations. Some never figure that out :)

[Robert Goren]

The Russians must have run out of hookers, if they need to get British military secrets from Obama.

[redshift1]

Anyone here so naive as to think Russia doesn't already know how many nuclear weapons are in both the United States and The U.K. and for that matter the world. In the age of surveillance satellites and electronic espionage the major powers have entire programs dedicated to ferreting out military secrets.

I would not be wringing my hands over what Russia or China knows about our nuclear capability when the real danger is some suicidal militant islamic faction gaining control of a nuclear weapon.

I for one would like to see the emails in context before they are run through the spin cycle.

[JustRalph]

Anyone here so naive as to think Russia doesn't already know how many nuclear weapons are in both the United States and The U.K. and for that matter the world. In the age of surveillance satellites and electronic espionage the major powers have entire programs dedicated to ferreting out military secrets.

I would not be wringing my hands over what Russia or China knows about our nuclear capability when the real danger is some suicidal militant islamic faction gaining control of a nuclear weapon.

I for one would like to see the emails in context before they are run through the spin cycle.

it doesn't say anything about "how many" it says they shared info on the missiles. Interesting that it was done in a secret cable. I tend to partially believe your post above, but if that is the crux of the problem, then why a secret cable ? Something else is up here..........we just don't know the details.

Btw, isn't Britain the same country that enslaved Obamammy's GrandDaddy? :lol:

[NJ Stinks]

Anyone here so naive as to think Russia doesn't already know how many nuclear weapons are in both the United States and The U.K. and for that matter the world. In the age of surveillance satellites and electronic espionage the major powers have entire programs dedicated to ferreting out military secrets.

I would not be wringing my hands over what Russia or China knows about our nuclear capability when the real danger is some suicidal militant islamic faction gaining control of a nuclear weapon.

I for one would like to see the emails in context before they are run through the spin cycle.

If the part below is true, Redshift1, I don't care how anyone spins this. IMO we should not have done it.

Washington lobbied London in 2009 for permission to supply Moscow with detailed data about the performance of UK missiles. The UK refused, but the US agreed to hand over the serial numbers of Trident missiles it transfers to Britain.

[bigmack]

In the age of surveillance satellites and electronic espionage the major powers have entire programs dedicated to ferreting out military secrets.

I for one would like to see the emails in context before they are run through the spin cycle.
Surveillance satellites show underground nuclear warheads? Hell, why not use Google Earth?

Don't know if you can see emails but if you want to read the cables they're published in the Telegraph.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/ukneu.png
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html

[redshift1]

1400 cables ? which one.

[newtothegame]

1400 cables ? which one.

Some people will only see what they (you) want to see. The ionfo was provided for ya. If your not willing, or want others to find all the info for ya,...
Well all I can say is keep believing what this government is telling ya. It will be alright. Don't worry your little head.

[bigmack]

1400 cables ? which one.
Didn't you say -I for one would like to see the emails in context before they are run through the spin cycle.

[redshift1]

Didn't you say -I for one would like to see the emails in context before they are run through the spin cycle.


If you could find the specific post you would have posted it.

So far and this may change but fox, CNN, MSNBC and the BBC have yet to report on this ?

[redshift1]

Some people will only see what they (you) want to see. The ionfo was provided for ya. If your not willing, or want others to find all the info for ya,...
Well all I can say is keep believing what this government is telling ya. It will be alright. Don't worry your little head.


Have you seen the post ?

[newtothegame]

Ive read the story as I posted it. I also saw the story mack posted....
Now, as i mentioned, you can either see the story or not. You mention a few U.S news sources and the bbc , claiming they havent posted the story as of yet....
Well, rarely does MSNBC, cbs, or most of the mainstream media post anything negative about this administration.
Fox, I am sure that based on the story coming from the blaze (late in the day I believe), that FOX will be having it sometime today if there is any truth to it.
The one thing I do believe,...of all the leaks that I have seen....none have been found to be false.
So read into that as you will.

[newtothegame]

The telegraph story is dated the 5th.
So I am sure once the time zone difference is "caught up" we shall see who breaks the story.....

[newtothegame]

You can also go here...

http://www.wikio.com/world/crises_and_conflicts/wikileaks

and see the comments from around the world of everyone about this story breaking. Not pretty to say the least .

[newtothegame]

and "google" me this....

wikileaks cable U.S to tell russia missile codes

A whole lot of info is popping up from Professionalsoldier.com to wordpress....
Seems this is rapidly hitting ALOT of forums and discussions.

[Let's Roll]

When the Stuxnet virus was exposed I thought that the Russians may have helped design it. If they did, what were they in it for, since they helped Iran build their nuclear program. Could this deal have been the payoff to Russia for that help ?

[NJ Stinks]

ABC News is reporting that the USA did not sell out the UK. Why I believed the The Daily Telegraph article (good paper - slants conservative) is on me.
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U.S., U.K. Governments Dispute Report that U.S. Sold Out U.K. During START Negotiations

February 05, 2011 5:06 PM


by Jake Tapper


Both the U.S. and British governments disputed on Saturday a London Telegraph report (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html) asserting that the "U.S. secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty."

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley called the report "nonsense," saying the information sharing about U.S. transfers of nuclear weapons to the U.K. dates back to the original START treaty, an assertion backed up by the White House and British government officials.

More at the link:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/02/us-uk-governments-dispute-report-that-us-sold-uk-out-during-start-negotiations.html

[boxcar]

I'd believe the Tele before this administration. In fact, I'd probably believe the "not guilty" plea of the whackjob in the AZ shooting tragedy before I'd believe this administration. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[Tom]

Yes, this administrations has zero credibility and one cannot believe a word from it. Anyone who believes the government deserves whatever they get.

:ThmbUp: (That's not my thumb!)

[newtothegame]

ABC News is reporting that the USA did not sell out the UK. Why I believed the The Daily Telegraph article (good paper - slants conservative) is on me.
______________________________

U.S., U.K. Governments Dispute Report that U.S. Sold Out U.K. During START Negotiations

February 05, 2011 5:06 PM


by Jake Tapper


Both the U.S. and British governments disputed on Saturday a London Telegraph report (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html) asserting that the "U.S. secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty."

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley called the report "nonsense," saying the information sharing about U.S. transfers of nuclear weapons to the U.K. dates back to the original START treaty, an assertion backed up by the White House and British government officials.

More at the link:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/02/us-uk-governments-dispute-report-that-us-sold-uk-out-during-start-negotiations.html

Well gee...what was I thinking??? since the government says it isnt so, then they must be telling the truth....right? I mean its not like the government has ever double talked or told a little lie....:lol:

[newtothegame]

And NJ...since our government must be telling the truth as they always do....
Arent you one who rails against the war in Iraq because there arent , and werent WMD?
But wait, wasnt it our government who said there was and we had to go to war???
Crap...I am so confused :rolleyes:

[NJ Stinks]

Well gee...what was I thinking??? since the government says it isnt so, then they must be telling the truth....right? I mean its not like the government has ever double talked or told a little lie....:lol:

What about the fact that the British government backed up the story?

[redshift1]

And NJ...since our government must be telling the truth as they always do....
Arent you one who rails against the war in Iraq because there arent , and werent WMD?
But wait, wasnt it our government who said there was and we had to go to war???
Crap...I am so confused :rolleyes:

You may also be interested in this article.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/03/ufo-jerusalems-dome-rock-baffles-experts/?intcmp=prn_baynote-js_UFO_Hovers_Over_Jerusalems_Dome_of_the_Rock_Shr ine#

[newtothegame]

http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/02/05/42949668.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html

http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama/2011/02/04/us-agrees-tell-russia-uks-nukes-secrets

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/06-Feb-2011/US-to-tell-Russia-UK-Nsecrets

lol...for a story that is false (as you two have stated our government has said)....seems like alot of news stories about it.
And this doesnt even scratch the surface of news stories.
But of course, since it was dismissed by both governments, it cant possibly be true.
Then again....considering the US government has conducted military testing on different people throughout the world, I am sure this is just nothing at all as well....:lol:

[redshift1]

lol...for a story that is false (as you two have stated our government has said)....seems like alot of news stories about it.
And this doesnt even scratch the surface of news stories.
But of course, since it was dismissed by both governments, it cant possibly be true.
Then again....considering the US government has conducted military testing on different people throughout the world, I am sure this is just nothing at all as well....:lol:

Read my posts not once did I imply or state the story was false what I asked for was the actual post itself so we could judge for ourselves.