GE Recieves Presidential Waiver for Greenhouse Gases

[delayjf]

Here's a real shocker - NOT.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/02/obama-issues-global-warming-rules-january-gives-ge-exemption-febr

[johnhannibalsmith]

Here's a real shocker - NOT.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/02/obama-issues-global-warming-rules-january-gives-ge-exemption-febr

I just saw this story on NBC - NOT.

[ArlJim78]

how shocking indeed! who would have ever expected this?

[Tom]

hcap - are you prepared to condemn GE for killing our environment?
How can there be ANY opt outs when our very lives are on the line here?????

Is Obama now not a co-conspirator in planetary murder??????


Obama is now worse than Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden.......he is killing the whole planet!!!

Me must take to the streets like our Egyptian brethren.
We must insist Obama goes TODAY!!!!!!!

hcap.....we need you to lead us!

[boxcar]

hcap - are you prepared to condemn GE for killing our environment?
How can there be ANY opt outs when our very lives are on the line here?????

Is Obama now not a co-conspirator in planetary murder??????


Obama is now worse than Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden.......he is killing the whole planet!!!

Me must take to the streets like our Egyptian brethren.
We must insist Obama goes TODAY!!!!!!!

hcap.....we need you to lead us!

No! Sooner than that. YESTERDAY!

Boxcar

[bigmack]

According to Dems, Repubs are out to annihilate Mommy Earth, ruin the health of little kiddies & ship jobs overseas.

Stay tuned. Tomorrow they're reportedly tearing out the toes nails of soccer moms. :eek:
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/senators-vow-strip-obama-climate-power/

[JustRalph]

This is a 3rd world kind of payoff

[NJ Stinks]

This is a 3rd world kind of payoff

I guess grandfather clauses are unique to that region. :rolleyes:

The term grandfather clause in its current application refers to a legislative provision that permits an exemption based upon a preexisting condition. For example, through the application of grandfather clauses, certain prerogatives are extended to those regularly engaged in a particular profession, occupation, or business that is regulated by statute or ordinance. Such a clause might allow an individual, who has been in continuous practice in a particular profession for a specific period, to circumvent certain licensing requirements.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Grandfather+Clause

[newtothegame]

I guess grandfather clauses are unique to that region. :rolleyes:

The term grandfather clause in its current application refers to a legislative provision that permits an exemption based upon a preexisting condition. For example, through the application of grandfather clauses, certain prerogatives are extended to those regularly engaged in a particular profession, occupation, or business that is regulated by statute or ordinance. Such a clause might allow an individual, who has been in continuous practice in a particular profession for a specific period, to circumvent certain licensing requirements.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Grandfather+Clause

So, since I have been in "in a continuous practice" can I get an exemption on the taxes that will ineviteably follow these green rules by the EPA?
I mean, ultimately, the cost of electricity and power will go up and be passed on to consumers...so can I be exempt from my share???

:lol:

[boxcar]

I guess grandfather clauses are unique to that region. :rolleyes:

The term grandfather clause in its current application refers to a legislative provision that permits an exemption based upon a preexisting condition. For example, through the application of grandfather clauses, certain prerogatives are extended to those regularly engaged in a particular profession, occupation, or business that is regulated by statute or ordinance. Such a clause might allow an individual, who has been in continuous practice in a particular profession for a specific period, to circumvent certain licensing requirements.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Grandfather+Clause

So, of all the corporations on the planet, only GE had this "preexisting condition"? Wow! How special and unique GE must be. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[johnhannibalsmith]

I guess grandfather clauses are unique to that region. :rolleyes:

The term grandfather clause in its current application refers to a legislative provision that permits an exemption based upon a preexisting condition. For example, through the application of grandfather clauses, certain prerogatives are extended to those regularly engaged in a particular profession, occupation, or business that is regulated by statute or ordinance. Such a clause might allow an individual, who has been in continuous practice in a particular profession for a specific period, to circumvent certain licensing requirements.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Grandfather+Clause

Go on record - are you defending the exemption?

[bigmack]

Go on record - are you defending the exemption?
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Red chip says if he does answer it won't be in a simple yes or no.

[NJ Stinks]

Go on record - are you defending the exemption?

If GE gets the only exemptions, I agree that it's wrong. Until that proves to be the case, I will defend this exemption.

[NJ Stinks]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/chip.jpg

Red chip says if he does answer it won't be in a simple yes or no.

I guess I could have said something like: "Please. You are embarrassing yourself, you mental midget." :p

[johnhannibalsmith]

If GE gets the only exemptions, I agree that it's wrong. Until that proves to be the case, I will defend this exemption.

Fair enough, but supppose it is 2012 and the elections have just completed. We have a new President and he/she/it is Repooblickan. He/she//it follows in Obama's footsteps and starts handing out exemptions using just your reasoning...

It's still cool with you, right?

******Damn shaking hands making me take ten minutes to type a stupid sentence and I'm too aggravated to rephrase it more sensibly**** :mad: :mad: :mad:

[bigmack]

Easy money. Am I psychic or what?

[johnhannibalsmith]

I guess I could have said something like: "Please. You are embarrassing yourself, you mental midget." :p

This is fairly accuruate depiction of me, but it may fall into a contemporary category of highly insensitive. I'm nopt certain, just warning you.

and with t5hat I am now too annoyed to type any more. You are welcome.

Not annoyed at you, to be clear. I love you as much as Game Theory. :kiss:

[NJ Stinks]

This is fairly accuruate depiction of me, but it may fall into a contemporary category of highly insensitive. I'm nopt certain, just warning you.

and with t5hat I am now too annoyed to type any more. You are welcome.

Not annoyed at you, to be clear. I love you as much as Game Theory. :kiss:

Easy, John. Post 14 was directed at Mack - not you. He lives to tell somebody they have no clue. :sleeping:

[Greyfox]

Dr. Noor van Andel spoke at a Meteorological conference last week.

He presented strong scientific evidence that CO2 makes no contribution to climate change. Science just does not support that conclusion.
Climate change is essentially driven by oceans, clouds, and cosmic rays.
Fascinating article at the following link.


http://joannenova.com.au/2011/02/the-oceans-clouds-and-cosmic-rays-drive-the-climate-not-co2/

[boxcar]

Easy, John. Post 14 was directed at Mack - not you. He lives to tell somebody they have no clue. :sleeping:

And just why would you, O' Clueless One, have a problem with that when that "somebody" is you? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

[Tom]

Here is the bottom line.
If you honestly believe in the threat of GW, then you can not give anyone any exemptions period. If you do,you are a fraud. There is no defense for it.

Any lib out there willing to step and explain why GE is more important than the planet?

Well, it is, to Obama, because he has sold himself to the man.
Massa say dance, the boy dances.

One day this week, he sells out the GW nut-jobs by allowing GE to kill the planet, then a day later, he sells out everyone by diverting more food crops to inefficient fuel which will keep driving up food prices.

This boy is a disgrace to everyone.

How can anyone defend this garbage????

[bigmack]

He lives to tell somebody they have no clue.
Only when the dunce cap fits. Trying to elevate the joint with some higher thought by mockin' the dopes.

You have higher thought, right? Throw it in the mix every now & again.

[NJ Stinks]

You have higher thought, right? Throw it in the mix every now & again.

Believe it or not - most of the time I'm trying to. :)

[johnhannibalsmith]

Believe it or not - most of the time I'm trying to. :)

You are the best. :cool:

[newtothegame]

lol...although we disagree on about...ummm..EVERYTHING lol, we still love ya NJ ...;)

[PaceAdvantage]

Dr. Noor van Andel spoke at a Meteorological conference last week.Reminds me of this guy:

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[Greyfox]

Other than having a Dutch name, I think it would be a stetch for anyone to
say my post reminds anyone of that video.
I repeat:
"Dr. Noor van Andel spoke at a Meteorological conference last week.

"He presented strong scientific evidence that CO2 makes no contribution to climate change. Science just does not support that conclusion.
Climate change is essentially driven by oceans, clouds, and cosmic rays.
Fascinating article at the following link."
http://joannenova.com.au/2011/02/th...limate-not-co2/

[bigmack]

Other than having a Dutch name, I think it would be a stetch for anyone to say my post reminds anyone of that video.
I repeat:"Dr. Noor van Andel spoke at a Meteorological conference last week.
Don't be goin' all L7 on PA. It ain't that tangential of a trigger. Little levity brightens up the stiffs around this place.

That article is hardly earth shattering. It's what I've been harping to hcap about for years.

Anyone who wants to seriously look into GW and the link to man made CO2 will have a barrel of laughs.

[ElKabong]

So a HUGE Obama political backer (Immelt) is getting a waiver from Obama. This administration is all about Paybacks for it's supporters. Nothing more

Don't expect NJ or hcap to step up and give an honest straightforward answer to this issue. There's no defense. Expect multiple posts about Palin or Ann Coulter any moment....

[Tom]

Gotta love the name in this context....Immelt. I melt. :lol:

[skate]

Gotta love the name in this context....Immelt. I melt. :lol:


Is this him?http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ilat801fruY/TUq8qjWz8jI/AAAAAAAAAK8/hrPbb6ubgHs/s320/ClimateGate.gif (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ilat801fruY/TUq8qjWz8jI/AAAAAAAAAK8/hrPbb6ubgHs/s1600/ClimateGate.gif)

[skate]

Why would GE be defended?


The thought process, globe warming, is a fraud.

Dr. Mann and Phil Jones (Pa. State Pro.) erased the period of 500 years that had a 2 degree average warmer temp., for Europe from 800ad/1300AD.

this resulted in the "Hockey Stick" chart that got AlGore an Oscar and 1/2 Noble Prize.

After 2 Canadiens (scientist) proved Algores claim to be false, Mann and Jones claim to have lost the data.

[mostpost]

General Electric did not get a waiver. Here is a copy of my post on this subject in another thread.
The fact is the exemption was given not to GE, but to Avenal Power Center. The connection to GE is that Avenal has some GE generators on its property. From what I can tell Avenal began construction on the power center in 2010 using the regulations then in effect. In January 2011 the regulations were changed. I don't think it is at all uncommon for existing institutions to be grandfathered in in a case like this. In any case it is Avenal that is the beneficiary, not GE.

Don't believe me? Try this.
CORRECTION: My headline on this blog post originally stated that GE itself was getting an exemption, which is not correct. GE is slated to provide the turbines for the power plant, which is being grandfathered-in. The body of the blog post was accurate.

That statement is at the bottom of the story.
Mr. Carney was being deceitful and somebody caught him. Whoops!
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[skate]

General Electric did not get a waiver. Here is a copy of my post on this subject in another thread.


Don't believe me? Try this.



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completely miss the point per usually, like always...with love:)

does not matter who/what got wavers, my thinking.

Problem is that ALL this here give away of Money...goes where? The company does not matter, but the fact that it goes to "A" company, not to a small company (the people) is the problemo.

Sorry to jump in the smiddle...but

And by the way, tell me how theBO gets $152 Million given to his campaign, In One Fuggn Month. Dont get the connection... then forget aboutits.;)