Roger Stein Show - Does anyone listen to his radio show?

[Igeteven]

Roger Stein Show - Does anyone listen to his radio show?

I tried, he is a bore and he thinks he God gift to horse racing

I quit, no more

Anyone else

[horses4courses]

Roger Stein Show - Does anyone listen to his radio show?

I tried, he is a bore and he thinks he God gift to horse racing

I quit, no more

Anyone else

Never have listened to his show.
He'd have to get some interesting guests before I would.
Stein isn't still training horses, is he?
He wasn't much good at that, either.

[Igeteven]

Never have listened to his show.
He'd have to get some interesting guests before I would.
Stein isn't still training horses, is he?
He wasn't much good at that, either.

He only trains horses by cell phone, showing, No

[Stillriledup]

Wonderful training job today at GG on Tizzy Bet. Sharp performance.

[FenceBored]

Good morning, Roger. Good morning, Bob.

[jelly]

It's hit or miss.


Zenyatta overload lately.

[andymays]

I listen to the show every Saturday and Sunday at 8:00 am pst. I also listen to Race and Sports Radio with Felix Taverna, Ken Daniels, and Ty Alexander at 7:00am pst.

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against synthetic surfaces. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against the California raise in takeout and he still talks about it to this day. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein continually speaks out against the CHRB and the TOC and how bad they are for California Racing and Horseplayers. :ThmbUp:

I don't agree with him on every single issue but who agrees on everything?

He does not do any training in person because he is in bad health and has been for years.

The bottom line for me is that if you follow California Racing and you're a Horseplayer then you should be glad Roger Stein in on the air. :ThmbUp:

[Stillriledup]

I listen to the show every Saturday and Sunday at 8:00 am pst. I also listen to Race and Sports Radio with Felix Taverna, Ken Daniels, and Ty Alexander at 7:00am pst.

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against synthetic surfaces. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against the California raise in takeout and he still talks about it to this day. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein continually speaks out against the CHRB and the TOC and how bad they are for California Racing and Horseplayers. :ThmbUp:

I don't agree with him on every single issue but who agrees on everything?

He does not do any training in person because he is in bad health and has been for years.

The bottom line for me is that if you follow California Racing and you're a Horseplayer then you should be glad Roger Stein in on the air. :ThmbUp:

Bettor Bob, is that you? :lol:

[Igeteven]

I listen to the show every Saturday and Sunday at 8:00 am pst. I also listen to Race and Sports Radio with Felix Taverna, Ken Daniels, and Ty Alexander at 7:00am pst.

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against synthetic surfaces. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against the California raise in takeout and he still talks about it to this day. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein continually speaks out against the CHRB and the TOC and how bad they are for California Racing and Horseplayers. :ThmbUp:

I don't agree with him on every single issue but who agrees on everything?

He does not do any training in person because he is in bad health and has been for years.

The bottom line for me is that if you follow California Racing and you're a Horseplayer then you should be glad Roger Stein in on the air. :ThmbUp:

Sorry Andy, wait until he turns on you and it will happen.

He really believes that horse players are not part of the game.

[FenceBored]

Sorry Andy, wait until he turns on you and it will happen.

He really believes that horse players are not part of the game.

That's a strange idea. His two co-hosts are both gamblers, a man he calls 'Bettor Bob' and a guy who hawks his tipline right there on the show. Yep, that Roger Stein fellow really can't stand them horseplayers. :rolleyes:

[garyoz]

Sirius/XM has the best racing coverage.

http://www.thoroughbredracingradionetwork.com/

http://www.sirius.com/horseracing

They also simulcast TVG for part of the day, if you are interested in that.

[statepierback]

I've listened to the Stein show on and off for years. Some of the things I've heard are useful. Some of it bland and useless. The San Diego show is more interesting for the selections than anything else. I haven't listened much since they left KOGO. I enjoy "Race Day Las Vegas" the most out of all of them.

[Igeteven]

That's a strange idea. His two co-hosts are both gamblers, a man he calls 'Bettor Bob' and a guy who hawks his tipline right there on the show. Yep, that Roger Stein fellow really can't stand them horseplayers. :rolleyes:

I have a e mail from him saying that he believes horse players are not part of the game.

As to Bettor Bob, a genus in math , as to John, he is there to sell his picks

[Fingal]

I listen to the show every Saturday and Sunday at 8:00 am pst. I also listen to Race and Sports Radio with Felix Taverna, Ken Daniels, and Ty Alexander at 7:00am pst.

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against synthetic surfaces. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein was the first one and the loudest radio personality to speak out against the California raise in takeout and he still talks about it to this day. :ThmbUp:

Roger Stein continually speaks out against the CHRB and the TOC and how bad they are for California Racing and Horseplayers. :ThmbUp:

I don't agree with him on every single issue but who agrees on everything?

He does not do any training in person because he is in bad health and has been for years.

The bottom line for me is that if you follow California Racing and you're a Horseplayer then you should be glad Roger Stein in on the air. :ThmbUp:

Same thing.

Of the other S Cal racing shows, when was the last time you heard Lenny Schulman talking about the wrongs in racing or Jerry Jam taking on the old boys club known as the CHRB & TOC ?

You aren't going to get that info on the other PR vehicles out here.

[andymays]

Same thing.

Of the other S Cal racing shows, when was the last time you heard Lenny Schulman talking about the wrongs in racing or Jerry Jam taking on the old boys club known as the CHRB & TOC ?

You aren't going to get that info on the other PR vehicles out here.

That's what I like about it. Like I said we don't have to agree on everything that's said or how it's said but the show has a unique style that rubs some people the wrong way but overall the show is a plus for California Racing.

[johnhannibalsmith]

I have a e mail from him saying that he believes horse players are not part of the game.
...

Is Julian Assange aware of this?

[Stillriledup]

Sorry for bumping the old topic, i could start a new one instead if you want me to, i know people get panties in a bunch when an old topic gets bumped to the top.

Anyway, on yesterday's (Aug 18) Stein show, Roger absolutely DESTROYED Todd Schrupp and TVG. The 'rant' starts at about the 12 minute mark.

[PaceAdvantage]

Anyway, on yesterday's (Aug 18) Stein show, Roger absolutely DESTROYED Todd Schrupp and TVG. The 'rant' starts at about the 12 minute mark.Does this kind of stuff make you happy?

When people get DESTROYED, to use your term. I must conclude it does, since you ALLCAPPED the word DESTROYED.

Enjoy your victory. :rolleyes:

[Stillriledup]

Does this kind of stuff make you happy?

When people get DESTROYED, to use your term. I must conclude it does, since you ALLCAPPED the word DESTROYED.

Enjoy your victory. :rolleyes:


Thank you! I don't get too many victories, so, when i get them, i should enjoy them, don't you think? ;) :D

[niltes]

for those few of you who care or want to know, BETTOR BOB PASSED
AWAY last week in vegas. He was in declining health and was in his
early 80s. Bob was an anomaly in the gambling media segment, as he
really supported himself and built his bankroll by actually gambling
100% of the time. He was the original linemaker for putting up Cubs home
game totals before anyone else. when cubs totals became mainstream,
he and his partners were some the largest bettors of them on the street.
After WSEX lost large amounts of money booking horse matchups, he was
offered the job and did nothing but make them money once he got involved.
He was a large horse matchup bettor up until his death and in addition a large player at some of the smaller tracks offering carryovers on the Super Hi 5. He was an honorable man and can only be described as a dinosaur in the gambling business. For those few who knew him, he will surely be missed.

[Andy Asaro]

for those few of you who care or want to know, BETTOR BOB PASSED
AWAY last week in vegas. He was in declining health and was in his
early 80s. Bob was an anomaly in the gambling media segment, as he
really supported himself and built his bankroll by actually gambling
100% of the time. He was the original linemaker for putting up Cubs home
game totals before anyone else. when cubs totals became mainstream,
he and his partners were some the largest bettors of them on the street.
After WSEX lost large amounts of money booking horse matchups, he was
offered the job and did nothing but make them money once he got involved.
He was a large horse matchup bettor up until his death and in addition a large player at some of the smaller tracks offering carryovers on the Super Hi 5. He was an honorable man and can only be described as a dinosaur in the gambling business. For those few who knew him, he will surely be missed.

Thanks

RIP

[Dave Schwartz]

for those few of you who care or want to know, BETTOR BOB PASSED
AWAY last week in vegas. He was in declining health and was in his early 80s. Bob was an anomaly in the gambling media segment, as he really supported himself and built his bankroll by actually gambling 100% of the time. He was the original linemaker for putting up Cubs home game totals before anyone else. when cubs totals became mainstream, he and his partners were some the largest bettors of them on the street.

After WSEX lost large amounts of money booking horse matchups, he was offered the job and did nothing but make them money once he got involved. He was a large horse matchup bettor up until his death and in addition a large player at some of the smaller tracks offering carryovers on the Super Hi 5. He was an honorable man and can only be described as a dinosaur in the gambling business. For those few who knew him, he will surely be missed.

I did not know of this man, but men of honor always leave a void.

Sorry for the loss of your friend.

[Inner Dirt]

After WSEX lost large amounts of money booking horse matchups, he was
offered the job and did nothing but make them money once he got involved.
.


Huh? WSEX went under screwing a lot of people out of a lot of money, my friend got burned for $10k. I think I would leave that statement out of your remembrance of the guy. They basically became nothing but a Ponzi scheme. They were in business for years after they started screwing people who made large hits over.

[Inner Dirt]

No mention of Roger Stein's death in this thread? He died May 31st 2019. I just remember him mostly as a dominate harness trainer at Los Alamitos.

[niltes]

WSEX ended up owing BOB money too.
They were not a ponzi scheme, but a successful
bookmaking business that was run by non professional
bookmakers that overestimated their bookmaking and
management skills. This eventually lead them to get in
way over their heads ruining that business and hurting
not only themselves, but their employees and customers.
that is another story and certainly not for this thread.

Roger and Bob did not part on the best of terms, but very
few of Roger's collaborations ever did. that's why I only
made passing reference to it here, no need to besmirch
the dead.

[Tom]

Thanks for the update. I used to listen to the show all the time.
My condolences.

[niltes]

i can tell you he prepared a lot for the show and loved
doing it. he must of really loved it as Roger's total
compensation to Bob in over a decade was a laptop,
a signed copy of Roger's book, and an invite (at Bob's)
expense to come to so cal and meet some lucky listeners.

[niltes]

i left out a few pertinent points. i'll let this thread go after this
unless there are any questions or if i see any misinformation

one of the key differences between BETTOR BOB and almost
everyone else in the horse media is that they have a vested
financial interest in promoting themselves or a product.
Bob was the only person I was aware of who had no chance of
any financial benefit by being on the radio, unless a guest or a cohost
said something insightful that he could use as intellectual property
or information. that happened very very infrequently.

Bob also was a call in on some of the radio shows in vegas. His
insights were appreciated, but his bias and overall disdain for
the parimutuel system occasionally came through which was
not well received by the advertisers (racetracks). This certainly
limited his appeal to his hosts although Roger, to his credit, found
a way of working with Bob without losing his sponsors. I do recall
Bob said he got into a long on air argument in Vegas with some guy who
wrote a horse handicapping/history book that Bob thought was BS.

As mentioned, Bob was not a huge fan of parimutuel due to its high takeouts.
Most of his bets were matchups, exchange wagers, offshore, or futures. Always seeking an edge, most of his parimutuel bets were done into super hi 5 carryover pools at smaller tracks (no jackpot pools). Many of his parimutuel bets at Vegas racebooks were done under very specific guidelines into minus show pools. as you can imagine that did not make him popular with the casinos as they had to eat their end of a minus pool. Bob was barred or severely limited in his wagering at multiple Vegas sports and race books because of this and other wagers that tended to produce a profit.

Hope this thread was interesting. It's been helpful to me to share some
of Bob's history with a horse racing forum that many can appreciate the insights and some still remember him.