Do You Need Any More Proof?

[Cardus]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/59856/blames-stud-fee-at-35000

Blame's stud fee has been set at $35,000. That's it? $35,000?

When Zenyatta is retired, her stud fee will be at least five times, if not 10 times, greater, than that paltry amount.

Further evidence that she should be Horse-of-the-Year. No Horse-of-the-Year would be listed at a mere $35,000.

[PhantomOnTour]

Say what?

[Cardus]

Say what?

I can't believe that it is only $35,000 either.

[Robert Goren]

How I love Sarcasm.:lol:

[horses4courses]

:blush:

[PhantomOnTour]

I can't believe that it is only $35,000 either.
Classic :D

[Market Mover]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/59856/blames-stud-fee-at-35000

Blame's stud fee has been set at $35,000. That's it? $35,000?

When Zenyatta is retired, her stud fee will be at least five times, if not 10 times, greater, than that paltry amount.

Further evidence that she should be Horse-of-the-Year. No Horse-of-the-Year would be listed at a mere $35,000.


She lacks the necessary tools to charge a stud fee..but im sure the Mosses would be happy to take 35k or more each time a stallion goes behind her..

[Cardus]

She lacks the necessary tools to charge a stud fee..but im sure the Mosses would be happy to take 35k or more each time a stallion goes behind her..

They do it from behind?

And get paid to do it that way?

[FenceBored]

They do it from behind?

And get paid to do it that way?

I do believe bondage and leather are also involved.

[Fager Fan]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/59856/blames-stud-fee-at-35000

Blame's stud fee has been set at $35,000. That's it? $35,000?

When Zenyatta is retired, her stud fee will be at least five times, if not 10 times, greater, than that paltry amount.

Further evidence that she should be Horse-of-the-Year. No Horse-of-the-Year would be listed at a mere $35,000.

You're right. As long as her foal has 4 legs, it'll be worth at least 10 times that paltry fee.

[GaryG]

Just when you think you have seen it all.....you haven't. :eek:

[jldonah]

Seriously--if it's possible on this thread--talking with friends yesterday, we brought up the idea that stud fees might be waived for a share of her first foal. Comments?, criticism?
I think Daylami would be a good match...others said she should go to a sprinter.

[Linny]

They do wear leather halters or bridles...

If Z can get a "stud fee" I'd like to meet (and hire) the lawyer that negotiates it.

[Valuist]

It just seems like the real true champion fillies and mares, the best of the best, don't make particularly good broodmares. It seems like the best broodmares were good racehorses (maybe Grade 3 level quality) with good bloodlines.

[nijinski]

Zenyatta would probably be very desirable for European breeding interest due to her running style and pedigree.
If I had a nice stallion I'd give her a discount , and definately have some strong crew on hand for the big girl. Wouldn't want to see a stallion kicked from coast to coast.

[sandpit]

It just seems like the real true champion fillies and mares, the best of the best, don't make particularly good broodmares. It seems like the best broodmares were good racehorses (maybe Grade 3 level quality) with good bloodlines.

Except for Personal Ensign

[FenceBored]

Seriously--if it's possible on this thread--talking with friends yesterday, we brought up the idea that stud fees might be waived for a share of her first foal. Comments?, criticism?
I think Daylami would be a good match...others said she should go to a sprinter.

Oh, I think a few farms might be willing to go in Darby Dan style to have one of their stallions cover her first.

Have a mare that is blacktype or a blacktype producer? She may be eligible for a complimentary season or reduced stud fee. All stallions are participating in this incentive. The level of blacktype achieved will determine which stallion for which she may be eligible.
-- http://www.darbydan.com/breeding_incentives.html

[depalma113]

A P Indy

[Fager Fan]

Seriously--if it's possible on this thread--talking with friends yesterday, we brought up the idea that stud fees might be waived for a share of her first foal. Comments?, criticism?
I think Daylami would be a good match...others said she should go to a sprinter.

The Mosses wouldn't give away half interest in the foal just so they don't have to pay the stud fee. That'd be a terrible deal for them. They'll pay the stud fee for the stallion they choose.

Daylami isn't a good enough stallion for her. She'll go to a top stallion. She shouldn't go to a sprinter because a breeder should send like to like. If you get the worst from each, then you could get a plodding sprinter.

[Fager Fan]

PS: Regarding Daylami again (and some people suggesting Sea The Stars), I don't get why some suggest foreign stallions for American mares. How many top dirt mares can we name who were sent to be bred to a foreign stallion? The logistics make it expensive and wearing on the mare and then there's the whole matter of the foreign stallions being turf stallions.

They'll send her to one of the best stallions in the U.S. It's also unlikely that they'd send her to an unproven stallion (like the Sea The Stars suggestion) because that could waste one of her offspring with that mating and they have no stallion interest that I can imagine one taking that risk with (unlike Jackson with Curlin and Rachel).

[cj's dad]

I do believe bondage and leather are also involved.

And if the stallion is ummm not interested at the right time lets just say he gets a helping "hand" ;)

[Stillriledup]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/59856/blames-stud-fee-at-35000

Blame's stud fee has been set at $35,000. That's it? $35,000?

When Zenyatta is retired, her stud fee will be at least five times, if not 10 times, greater, than that paltry amount.

Further evidence that she should be Horse-of-the-Year. No Horse-of-the-Year would be listed at a mere $35,000.

Her stud fee?

[FenceBored]

Her stud fee?

Yes, the fee she charges the stud for the privilege of covering her. What, you thought she was going to pay? :)

[cj's dad]

It's all about nature and math.

The gestation of a mare is 320-370 days on average; so Z can basically punch out a foal once a year.

Blame, if found to be fertile, has many more opportunities to reproduce.

I'd much rather be shopping Blame around than Z.

[Linny]

Mares don't have stud fees, Cardus, mare owners PAY fees and for the fee they get a foal.

[Cardus]

Mares don't have stud fees, Cardus, mare owners PAY fees and for the fee they get a foal.

I have followed racing for over 30 years and you are the first person to set me straight on this. Thanks.

[joanied]

It just seems like the real true champion fillies and mares, the best of the best, don't make particularly good broodmares. It seems like the best broodmares were good racehorses (maybe Grade 3 level quality) with good bloodlines.

Her stud fee:eek: aside:lol: ...

An in depth study was recently done about top race mares and their foals...and top race mares are the best producers in getting better foals...anyone that knows about breeding also knows it's crap shoot and very good race horses have come from mares with little race record, but within this study, top race mares come out way better than others.
The one thing about the really good race mares and that sometimes they do have problems getting in foal and carrying to term...but according to this study (published by the BloodHorse), that's what you want to produce a really good race horse...and needless to say, the covering stallions do need to 'nick' well.
Guess that's one reason the top race mares sell for millions!!

[Cardus]

I am not getting into the nicks, but it's safe to say that the stallion to which they ultimately breed better have speed.

(Which is why, unless the cross is too good to pass up, would they want to breed Zenyatta to AP Indy?)

[Pell Mell]

I think the best bred and best horse in many a year is Big Brown. Zen would seem to be just enough out cross for him. I also think the next TC winner will be sired by him. Just my pedigree opinion. ;)

[FenceBored]

A P Indy

Hmm, will the Mosses let their girl ship to the farm that stands Jess Jackson's Curlin?

[point given]

Still hoping the Moss's reconsider her retirement and send her across the pond to either Dubai or Europe for a race on the turf. The way she runs seems ideal for the turf. No ?

[joanied]

I seriously doubt they'll send her overseas...I think she could win the Dubia World Cup...but never happen, she stays home.

[tucker6]

I was surprised to read that Quality Road will also stand for $35,000 per live foal. Maybe he moved to the back to check out Zenyatta. That would be a novel excuse.