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ArlJim78
11-10-2010, 01:07 PM
Boehner is doing something smart (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/11/08/gop-leaders-give-freshmen-more-say/), he's putting at least one of the new tea party Republicans on the leadership committee and two on the steering committee. He is making sure they have some voices in prominent roles. Here is one of the incoming tea party stars, Kristi Noem from South Dakota. She is probable the leading candidate for the leadership position for the freshmen class.
The tea party is going to remake the Republican party over time, just wait. The old ways are not going to fly anymore.
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These are the kind of people Bloomberg recently said would make problems and couldn't read, and don't have passports. If there ever was a bigger elitist ass than Bloomberg I can't think of who it would be. Several of these people are war vets like Col. Allen West. I guess that's how Bloomy views our military personnel.
Why is it the dems never admit they have problems and seek to cleanse their party like we are doing to ours?
They call us "lock-steppers" but never stray too far off their own page.
Curious.
cj's dad
11-10-2010, 02:12 PM
TOM !!
Empty your PM in box - it's full !!
bigmack
11-10-2010, 02:26 PM
While the usuals called 'em racists, on the verge of violence, angry, fat, unhinged & ill-informed they just kept on. The sheeple who bought the vilifying propaganda ought to be ashamed of themselves. The real dummies are the ones willing to accept the status quo. At least these people took the initiative to get out and do something about things. More than I can say for myself and certainly more than all the nerdy libs who are at the ready to ridicule.
Funny it's now the left who are coming unglued.
DJofSD
11-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Mack, they've always been that way. It's now just getting to the point they're getting harder and harder to ignore.
Semper fidelis.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/tea_party_socialism_20101005/#
Tea Party Socialism
If tea party candidates were serious about stopping runaway spending and bringing fiscal responsibility to Washington, they would have to address one of the most egregious wastes of taxpayer dollars: federal farm subsidies. These handouts have become little more than taxpayer robbery, sending billions of dollars every year to wealthy “farmers,” even some who do not farm at all. It is not an opportunity the tea party is willing to take.
“Washington paid out a quarter of a trillion dollars in federal farm subsidies between 1995 and 2009, but to characterize the programs as either a ‘big government’ bailout or another form of welfare would be manifestly unfair—to bailouts and welfare,” says Ken Cook, president of the Environmental Working Group, a watchdog that tracks federal farm subsidies. “After all, with bailouts taxpayers usually get their money back (often with interest), while welfare recipients are subjected to harsh means-testing, time-limited benefits, and a work requirement. ...”
Not so with farm subsidies. Forget about helping struggling farmers—this taxpayer-funded gravy train is skewed primarily toward the rich, paying out billions to “McRanches” and to businesses like Fidelity National Financial, a Fortune 500 company, which got $6.5 million over four years to not farm its land.
If you think such blatant waste would galvanize the tea party, think again.
http://www.yankton.net/articles/2010/03/20/news/doc4ba45f190c93c428176174.prt
"That support for farm subsidies is likely to continue from South Dakota’s lone U.S. House seat, regardless of who wins in November.
State Rep. Kristi Noem, R-Castlewood, is a partner in the Racota Valley Ranch, which received almost $3 million in subsidies from 1995 to 2008, according to figures compiled by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization that collects and analyzes farm subsidy data. As of 2009, Noem had a 16.9 percent ownership stake in Racota Valley.
Her brothers and mother bought her out last year, she said.
.....Many candidates for office in South Dakota have ties to subsidies, especially when family members are factored in. Subsidies are a part of life here, and somebody who criticizes them risks irritating the agriculture industry, Blanchard said.
Like the other Republicans in the race, Noem has entered because she opposes recent federal spending policies. But when it comes to farm subsidies, she said they’re necessary to the country’s ag sector. They preserve the industry, which makes the country more secure. South Dakota in particular has experienced disasters, and Racota Valley has benefited from disaster assistance."
bigmack
11-10-2010, 08:16 PM
hcap doin' some of that 'high steppin' already. Have ya noticed since the election they're out of their minds running around "so where are they gonna cut spending from, huh, huh, where o' where?"
As if cost cutting is impossible. Then they go and search out stories and 'pin the tale on the tea party' and say "whatcha gonna do about this?"
You know, like small children.
Again. Just get out of the way and go tie dye a T shirt somewhere.
You spend a lot of time reading Yasha Levine penned nonsense @ truthdig.com & yankton.net? Sure you do.
You have been suckered big time if you believe the so-called Tea Party is anything new. Just re-packaged rethug talking points puffed up with the "Southern Strategy" of the good ole boy rethugs of yore. I doubt when the rubber hit's the road anything other than Obama hunting will get done by the new ( old ) crowd in the House
bigmack
11-10-2010, 09:13 PM
You have been suckered big time if you believe the so-called Tea Party is anything new. Just re-packaged rethug talking points puffed up with the "Southern Strategy" of the good ole boy rethugs of yore. I doubt when the rubber hit's the road anything other than Obama hunting will get done by the new ( old ) crowd in the House
Yeah, I read that @ MediaMatters as well.
When do you get thoughts of your own?
boxcar
11-10-2010, 09:44 PM
http://www.yankton.net/articles/2010/03/20/news/doc4ba45f190c93c428176174.prt
"That support for farm subsidies is likely to continue from South Dakota’s lone U.S. House seat, regardless of who wins in November.
State Rep. Kristi Noem, R-Castlewood, is a partner in the Racota Valley Ranch, which received almost $3 million in subsidies from 1995 to 2008, according to figures compiled by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization that collects and analyzes farm subsidy data. As of 2009, Noem had a 16.9 percent ownership stake in Racota Valley.
Her brothers and mother bought her out last year, she said.
.....Many candidates for office in South Dakota have ties to subsidies, especially when family members are factored in. Subsidies are a part of life here, and somebody who criticizes them risks irritating the agriculture industry, Blanchard said.
Like the other Republicans in the race, Noem has entered because she opposes recent federal spending policies. But when it comes to farm subsidies, she said they’re necessary to the country’s ag sector. They preserve the industry, which makes the country more secure. South Dakota in particular has experienced disasters, and Racota Valley has benefited from disaster assistance."
Hmm...Farm Subsidies, eh? They're kinda like corporate welfare, wouldn't you say? Heck...I've long been in favor of cutting of the welfare checks to corporations. I see that you don't have any empathy for them either, so we have something in common. But if we're really going to save some money, let's do some really serious reform to the people variety of welfare, too. We could save gazillions by cutting off all subsidies to corporations, to farms and to more than few deadbeats in society -- you know all the ObamaBucks nuts out there. How 'bout it, 'cap? For that matter, I'm also in favor of cutting off all funding to all areas in society that are unconstitutional, such as schools. Let the states take care of their own schools.
So, yeah...I'm aboard with cutting, cutting, cutting vs. spending, spending, spending. Glad to see we're finally on the same page on something. ;)
Boxcar
Isn't it a betrayal of the grand Tea party ideals to talk cutting government spending while being on the Farm subsidy dole?
Just asking.
Btw, she is not the only Tea Party Socialist new to the House
rgustafson
11-11-2010, 09:22 AM
At least Boehner and Cantor were smart enough to tell Michelle Bachmann to forget it as far as any leadership position is concerned. I have lived in her congressional district for over thirty years. Some of you looking from afar don't seem to see the whole picture.
newtothegame
11-11-2010, 09:29 AM
Your welcome to enlighten us rgus.....
But please....opinions are like...(well you know the rest of that story)....
I am sure you will have links to support all the claims your gonna make....
ArlJim78
11-11-2010, 10:00 AM
Isn't it a betrayal of the grand Tea party ideals to talk cutting government spending while being on the Farm subsidy dole?
Actually no, it isn't a betrayal.
rgustafson
11-11-2010, 11:11 AM
Your welcome to enlighten us rgus.....
But please....opinions are like...(well you know the rest of that story)....
I am sure you will have links to support all the claims your gonna make....
Mainly a question of political savvy, knowing when to speak up and when to keep your mouth shut. Kind of like, " know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em" in poker.
newtothegame
11-11-2010, 12:30 PM
Mainly a question of political savvy, knowing when to speak up and when to keep your mouth shut. Kind of like, " know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em" in poker.
So in essence...if ya cant attack the message...attack the messenger???
So to make sure I understand, she just doesnt know when to shut up?
What possibly could she be running her mouth about that would cause such a ruckus??? Or what isnt she saying that she should???
And I know I am sounding a bit skeptical...but seriously....if your gonna toss around those allegations, I am sure you can back them up with points of view.
rgustafson
11-11-2010, 01:37 PM
So in essence...if ya cant attack the message...attack the messenger???
So to make sure I understand, she just doesnt know when to shut up?
What possibly could she be running her mouth about that would cause such a ruckus??? Or what isnt she saying that she should???
And I know I am sounding a bit skeptical...but seriously....if your gonna toss around those allegations, I am sure you can back them up with points of view.
The point I was trying to make is why she wasn't considered for a leadership position, but maybe you can give us all a different reason.
PaceAdvantage
11-11-2010, 05:05 PM
Mainly a question of political savvy, knowing when to speak up and when to keep your mouth shut. Kind of like, " know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em" in poker.More misogyny emanating from the left...how quaint...we always knew you guys were experts at putting women in their place. This just proves it.
PaceAdvantage
11-11-2010, 05:08 PM
The point I was trying to make is why she wasn't considered for a leadership position, but maybe you can give us all a different reason.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/11/michele-bachmann-leadership-bi.html
You view the above as a negative? I view it as a positive. A politician who doesn't abandon the girl who brought her to the dance should always be admired.
Lots of Obama supporters probably wish he would act in a similar fashion.
Native Texan III
11-11-2010, 06:18 PM
Boehner is doing something smart (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/11/08/gop-leaders-give-freshmen-more-say/), he's putting at least one of the new tea party Republicans on the leadership committee and two on the steering committee. He is making sure they have some voices in prominent roles. Here is one of the incoming tea party stars, Kristi Noem from South Dakota. She is probable the leading candidate for the leadership position for the freshmen class.
The tea party is going to remake the Republican party over time, just wait. The old ways are not going to fly anymore.
These are the kind of people Bloomberg recently said would make problems and couldn't read, and don't have passports. If there ever was a bigger elitist ass than Bloomberg I can't think of who it would be. Several of these people are war vets like Col. Allen West. I guess that's how Bloomy views our military personnel.
Worst possible move the TP members can make is get sucked into the same old Washington power and elite machine with failed Republicans who know all the snide moves to absorb them and dispense them. They need to stick out as being true to their promises but with the Boehner being the lobbyist's best and biggest pal in Washington, the TP promoted members will quickly get identified as being just as bad as the rest, then goodbye TP.
boxcar
11-11-2010, 06:23 PM
Worst possible move the TP members can make is get sucked into the same old Washington power and elite machine with failed Republicans who know all the snide moves to absorb them and dispense them. They need to stick out as being true to their promises but with the Boehner being the lobbyist's best and biggest pal in Washington, the TP promoted members will quickly get identified as being just as bad as the rest, then goodbye TP.
He definitely wouldn't be any worse than those on the other side of the aisle.
And just what was that Boehner promise, again?
Boxcar
newtothegame
11-11-2010, 10:52 PM
The point I was trying to make is why she wasn't considered for a leadership position, but maybe you can give us all a different reason.
I shouldnt have to give any reason....YOU were the one on here spouting about her inabilities and her lackings or shortcommings. I asked YOU for links...and of course...NONE provided...just as thought.
Thanks for playing though....:lol:
johnhannibalsmith
11-11-2010, 11:51 PM
Worst possible move the TP members can make is get sucked into the same old Washington power and elite machine with failed Republicans ...
Now this is something that Republicans and Democrats can surely agree upon. Strangely, they have been getting along well recently.
NJ Stinks
11-12-2010, 12:18 AM
I shouldnt have to give any reason....YOU were the one on here spouting about her inabilities and her lackings or shortcommings. I asked YOU for links...and of course...NONE provided...just as thought.
Thanks for playing though....:lol:
How desperate does one have to be to defend Michelle Bachmann?
Just curious.
johnhannibalsmith
11-12-2010, 12:21 AM
How desperate does one have to be to defend Michelle Bachmann?
Just curious.
It's about midway to loving Barney Frank.
newtothegame
11-12-2010, 12:22 AM
How desperate does one have to be to defend Michelle Bachmann?
Just curious.
The better question...should be how much personal attacks should someone take? I didnt start the attackson her...I asked for links to his "accusations" about what the other poster implied. And of course...as with most libs....no reply.
Standing policy for libs...attack the messenger when ya cant attack the message.
NJ Stinks
11-12-2010, 12:27 AM
The better question...should be how much personal attacks should someone take? I didnt start the attackson her...I asked for links to his "accusations" about what the other poster implied. And of course...as with most libs....no reply.
Standing policy for libs...attack the messenger when ya cant attack the message.
Mostpost leaves links to back up his points daily. So does Hcap. Standing policy for libs my foot! :D
newtothegame
11-12-2010, 12:30 AM
Mostpost leaves links to back up his points daily. So does Hcap. Standing policy for libs my foot! :D
You make a great cheerleader for 'cap and mosty. I have said many times although I disagree with mosty...he tries his best. Glad to see 'cap back as well....I missed the long graphs and diagrams lol
Now lets hear it from NJ..."rah rah rah...go mosty"......:lol:
NJ Stinks
11-12-2010, 12:44 AM
You make a great cheerleader for 'cap and mosty. I have said many times although I disagree with mosty...he tries his best. Glad to see 'cap back as well....I missed the long graphs and diagrams lol
Now lets hear it from NJ..."rah rah rah...go mosty"......:lol:
When you are right - you're right, Newtothegame. I'd share a foxhole with those guys anytime. Because no matter how much BS is coming in from all sides, those guys just keep returning fire. :cool: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
newtothegame
11-12-2010, 12:57 AM
When you are right - you're right, Newtothegame. I'd share a foxhole with those guys anytime. Because no matter how much BS is coming in from all sides, those guys just keep returning fire. :cool: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
Kudos to you for wanting to share with them.....
Personally, I would wager that neither spent a day in the military. Secondly, from the side that did all the protesting our boys when they were in Nam, cambodia, etc etc...not so sure I would be proud of that.
And this is not a statement as to whether those "conflicts" were right or wrong....its about the actions of the public towards those brave young men who gave so much.
Lastly, just because ya return fire doesnt mean they are hitting any targets lol.
Still waiting on 'caps reply to mack concerning climate change...thats been a long time waiting....
And mosty...or YOU ...have yet to respond to the redistribution of wealth when YOU or HIM is asked directly to contribute.
In case ya forgot...heres your chance....I am sure you make more then me. I mean I couldnt possibly afford to live in Jersey...(not that I would want to either way)...but, how about hooking a fellow american up? I mean we should be on equal terms....I feel like ive gotten the short end due to geographical restraints, etc etc. So, therefore (based on libs theory of redistribution), I can be expecting a check in the mail shortly from you...right?
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