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MickJ26
11-08-2010, 12:52 PM
TVG is reporting on their Facebook page that Goldikova is coming back for a 2011 campaign. I hope this is true. Thank you Wertheimer and Frere and Mr. Head.

BluegrassProf
11-08-2010, 12:53 PM
Edit: Updated... ;)

Breeders’ Cup four-peat main goal for Goldikova next year
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2010/november/07/goldikova-to-stay-in-training.aspx

Grits
11-08-2010, 01:00 PM
That's my girl, that's my girl--hellcat that she is. Not done yet! Good for her, and a big thank you to her connections.

MNslappy
11-08-2010, 01:05 PM
This. Is. Un-be-lievable

:jump:

deathandgravity
11-08-2010, 01:34 PM
:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Go for :4: Goldie!

Shelby
11-08-2010, 01:37 PM
Oh wow!!!! Thank you to all of Goldie's people for letting her keep running!!!

cpitt84
11-08-2010, 02:44 PM
Goldy being pointed to fourth championship!!!

http://www.drf.com/news/goldikova-point-fourth-bc-mile-next-year

Should Goldikova even race against females anymore?

tucker6
11-08-2010, 03:05 PM
That's my girl, that's my girl--hellcat that she is. Not done yet! Good for her, and a big thank you to her connections.Great news, but only because ALL of the stallions interviewed wouldn't get near that spitfire. I think she'd kick them where it counts. :blush:

cpitt84
11-08-2010, 03:08 PM
Great news, but only because ALL of the stallions interviewed wouldn't get near that spitfire. I think she'd kick them where it counts. :blush:

:D Very true! That horse has definitely got some spirit.

point given
11-08-2010, 09:51 PM
We decided to keep her in training because she’s in great shape,” he continued. “The other reason is that if more older horses are kept in training, it’s good for the public because they get used to seeing them and there’s a good chance of it bringing (more) people to the racetrack. If you only keep them one year, people don’t see them enough; they don’t get attached. I think it would be good if more people were able to do that. I understand for colts because there is a lot of money involved. But when you have a big stable and have a good mare, there’s no reason not to try to keep her in training :ThmbUp:

cpitt84
11-08-2010, 10:04 PM
We decided to keep her in training because she’s in great shape,” he continued. “The other reason is that if more older horses are kept in training, it’s good for the public because they get used to seeing them and there’s a good chance of it bringing (more) people to the racetrack. If you only keep them one year, people don’t see them enough; they don’t get attached. I think it would be good if more people were able to do that. I understand for colts because there is a lot of money involved. But when you have a big stable and have a good mare, there’s no reason not to try to keep her in training :ThmbUp:

I hope the mosses consider this also.

Grits
11-08-2010, 10:08 PM
Great news, but only because ALL of the stallions interviewed wouldn't get near that spitfire. I think she'd kick them where it counts. :blush:

Nah Tucker, she ain't ready to quit playin' "hard to get yet." As in catch me if you can, boys.

;) Spitfire, oh does it fit her well, too.

Tom
11-08-2010, 10:21 PM
Maybe she will try some real horses on dirt next year? :rolleyes:

MNslappy
11-08-2010, 10:35 PM
I'm sure they'll duck, as usual.
Where's CJ's tomato can picture?

duncan04
11-08-2010, 11:19 PM
We decided to keep her in training because she’s in great shape,” he continued. “The other reason is that if more older horses are kept in training, it’s good for the public because they get used to seeing them and there’s a good chance of it bringing (more) people to the racetrack. If you only keep them one year, people don’t see them enough; they don’t get attached. I think it would be good if more people were able to do that. I understand for colts because there is a lot of money involved. But when you have a big stable and have a good mare, there’s no reason not to try to keep her in training :ThmbUp:


:ThmbUp: Great to hear. Wish this would happen more often!!!

PaceAdvantage
11-09-2010, 04:54 PM
Maybe she will try some real horses on dirt next year? :rolleyes:Maybe when people start waxing how she's the BEST HOSS EVAH we'll start calling for it...

Tom
11-09-2010, 08:05 PM
We decided to keep her in training because she’s in great shape,” he continued. “The other reason is that if more older horses are kept in training, it’s good for the public because they get used to seeing them and there’s a good chance of it bringing (more) people to the racetrack.

I used to think that, too, but I was told here that is not true.

Tom
11-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Maybe when people start waxing how she's the BEST HOSS EVAH we'll start calling for it...

Oh, if everyone wants to settle for same old same, old, that' ok too.
Someone has to take the safe road.

Valuist
11-09-2010, 11:12 PM
I wonder how many races Goldikova could've won in a row if her owners only let her race in France.....and against fillies.

This was her most impressive race yet; much tougher Mile field this year than last year. 2008 wasn't a bad bunch either.

Humph
11-10-2010, 03:55 AM
I wonder how many races Goldikova could've won in a row if her owners only let her race in France.....and against fillies.



I wonder how her record in France who have looked if Zarkava had stayed around.

OTM Al
11-10-2010, 08:46 AM
I wonder how her record in France who have looked if Zarkava had stayed around.

Likely they would not have met again. Zarkava would be running races in the 1 1/4- 1 1/2 mile range.

FenceBored
11-10-2010, 08:55 AM
Likely they would not have met again. Zarkava would be running races in the 1 1/4- 1 1/2 mile range.

So Goldikova would have been ducking her, huh?

{Sorry, had to beat Tom to the punch. :) }

Tom
11-10-2010, 09:10 AM
So Goldikova would have been ducking her, huh?

{Sorry, had to beat Tom to the punch. :) }

Aflack! :D

OTM Al
11-10-2010, 12:37 PM
So Goldikova would have been ducking her, huh?

{Sorry, had to beat Tom to the punch. :) }

I'm sure many brilliant minds would have said that since 1 1/4 miles IS the ONLY distance that matters.

Gorgeous George
11-11-2010, 06:09 AM
Goldikova is a living LEGEND, shes the queen of europe!!

Just goes to show you what that freak Zarkava could have done, having beat Goldie twice at two different distances, if she stayed in training.

Steve R
11-11-2010, 08:41 AM
I'm sure many brilliant minds would have said that since 1 1/4 miles IS the ONLY distance that matters.
And they would have said it despite the fact that 10f on the dirt is one of the least competitive distances in North American racing.

BluegrassProf
11-13-2010, 12:02 PM
For Shuback, everything's comin' up Goldi.
Both Goldikova and Zenyatta won five Group or Grade 1 races in 2010, but there is little resemblance in the quality of the fields the two were beating in those races.

In her four Group 1 victories in Europe and her Grade 1 Breeders’ Cup Mile triumph, Goldikova was beating 16 winners of 37 Group or Grade 1 races. The overall Group/Grade 1 record of her competition in those five races is 157-37-25-19.

In her five Grade 1 victories this year, Zenyatta was beating not a single Grade 1 winner. The overall Group/Grade 1 record of her competition in those five races is 28-0-1-2. Moreover, Zenyatta beat just two Grade 2 winners in those five races, St Trinians in the Vanity Handicap and Switch in the Lady's Secret.

In fact, while Zenyatta’s five victories this year were all technically Grade 1’s, the quality of the competition indicates that they were no better than Grade 3’s.

When whittled down to the precise conditions of their respective Breeders’ Cup races, Goldikova again comes out as clearly superior. In the Mile, she was beating four winners of nine Group or Grade 1 races at a mile on turf. In the Classic, Zenyatta was facing a single winner of a Grade 1 race going 1 1/4 miles on dirt, that being Haynesfield.

One of the finest fillies or mares to grace the American turf in history, Zenyatta falls well short of ranking as one of the all-time greats.http://drf.com/news/goldikova-rules-world

Yikes. CD patiently awaits the triumphant return...

OTM Al
11-13-2010, 12:30 PM
And they would have said it despite the fact that 10f on the dirt is one of the least competitive distances in North American racing.

Prior to the BC this year I count 7 Gr1 on the turf in the US at 1 m. 2 are restriced to fillies, all for older horses, 3yo eligible for 5. I count 5 Gr1 1 1/4 m races on the dirt. Only one is unrestricted, 2 are for fillies (1 3yo, 1 3up) and the other 2 restricted to 3yos.

Looks to me like in the US these days 1 1/4 miles on the dirt is more a specialist distance, not a standard.

Stillriledup
11-13-2010, 01:24 PM
TVG is reporting on their Facebook page that Goldikova is coming back for a 2011 campaign. I hope this is true. Thank you Wertheimer and Frere and Mr. Head.

Thank you? You're thanking them for ruining what otherwise would be an amazing betting race with the potential of boxcar payoffs? I made a large wager on Usual QT, without her in the race, i make a monster score in the exactas, tri and maybe the super. With her IN the race, i lose because i don't bet 6-5 shots in Breeders Cup races.

eastie
11-13-2010, 01:41 PM
I wonder how many races Goldikova could've won in a row if her owners only let her race in France.....and against fillies.

This was her most impressive race yet; much tougher Mile field this year than last year. 2008 wasn't a bad bunch either.



:1::9: races in a row

v j stauffer
11-13-2010, 01:42 PM
:1::9: races in a row

Just FYI. Wanted to let you know I just finished soul searching:bang:

Tom
11-13-2010, 02:41 PM
:1::9: races in a row

:1::9:.:9:

;)

tucker6
11-13-2010, 02:59 PM
Wanted to let you know I just finished soul searching:bang:I usually keep mine in the closet under the dress pants. That way, I don't lose them, and I can keep the matching pairs together.


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