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JustRalph

11-02-2010, 04:11 PM

http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/251906/harrahs-bosses-put-squeeze-employees-vote-pro-reid-effort-elizabeth-crum

This is one Casino Company that will never get any of my future cash

Check out the emails

get the pdf version here

http://watchdogmedia.org/national/Harrahs/Harrahs_Early_Vote_Email_trail_110210.pdf

The age of email and Internet sure have changed things........

ArlJim78

11-02-2010, 04:43 PM

“We were asked to talk to people individually to find out why they had not yet voted and to fill in these spreadsheets explaining why,” the employee said. “I did not feel comfortable (http://www.nationalreview.com/battle10/251906/harrahs-bosses-put-squeeze-employees-vote-pro-reid-effort-elizabeth-crum#) doing that.”

“It put me in a very awkward position,” the employee added, saying the level of coordination between Harrah’s upper management, the culinary union, and the Reid campaign was “disgusting.”

a quote from the article. you can just imagine what really goes on. the bosses tell you what to do and who to vote for, and if you ask why they can tell you "Let's just say it's in your best interest"

a great example of why we have to throw out the incumbents.

TJDave

11-02-2010, 05:14 PM

a quote from the article. you can just imagine what really goes on. the bosses tell you what to do and who to vote for, and if you ask why they can tell you "Let's just say it's in your best interest"

Considering that voting is by secret ballot, I can't understand how anyone telling someone how to vote would make any difference. OTOH, I would gladly tell my employer I voted per his suggestion...even if I didn't.

Sometimes private jokes are much more satisfying than those told in public. ;)

horses4courses

11-02-2010, 05:17 PM

boxcar

11-02-2010, 05:33 PM

Would you be equally upset if Harrah's supported Angle?
I doubt it.......

Last I knew, casino employees are entitled to vote while on the clock at work.
Obviously, no one can stare over any voter's shoulder as they cast their ballot.

Nothing wrong with encouraging employees to vote, or for a company to support a candidate, either.

First off, YES!!!, it would disturb me if it involved Angle. Wrong is wrong, no matter who is involved. Believe it or not the world is not completely filled with Hcap types who believe the ends justify the means.

And employers should not be in the business of intruding into the personal affairs of employees when those affairs have no connection to the business.
This is outright coercion, and has nothing to do with "encouragement". Exercising one's civic duty is a matter of personal conscience, in which employers and union bosses have no business intruding into or trying to violate that conscience. Some companies feel so strongly as I do about this that they actually have a policy forbidding employees to talk politics while "on the clock". What's next: Bosses telling people that they must attend church and which one? :bang: :bang:

And if execs in a company support candidate, they should keep that to themselves, as well.

Boxcar

JustRalph

11-02-2010, 05:33 PM

Would you be equally upset if Harrah's supported Angle?
I doubt it.......

Last I knew, casino employees are entitled to vote while on the clock at work.
Obviously, no one can stare over any voter's shoulder as they cast their ballot.

Nothing wrong with encouraging employees to vote, or for a company to support a candidate, either.

They didn't encourage them to vote. They told them who to vote for.

They made the point loud and clear that if on Nov 3rd they wake up to a world without Harry Reid in the Senate, it would be bad for them.

The Libs are going ape shit over this story
http://www.newser.com/story/104184/mcdonalds-owner-says-vote-republican-or-else.html

There isn't a dimes worth of difference between the two stories.

I also agree that this may give Angle some votes......... I am sure some will walk in the booth and vote for her out of spite.........
The majority will do what the boss tells them ..........

TJDave

11-02-2010, 05:52 PM

This is outright coercion

It's stupid and probably counterproductive but in no way was anyone forced to do anything.

JustRalph

11-02-2010, 06:22 PM

It's stupid and probably counterproductive but in no way was anyone forced to do anything.

I agree. What goes on behind the curtain is between the voter and the Wizard.

The point of the thread is a valid one. To a certain extent anyway.

BlueShoe

11-02-2010, 06:27 PM

As a long time frequent visitor to Nevadas casino/resorts have had issues with Harrahs and rarely patronize their properties, and then only in a minor way. This incident strengthens that resolve. Angle is pro business and is well aware of the importance of the casino industry to the states economy. Harrahs got it backwards, a pro business Angle victory would be far more helpful to Nevadas sky high unemployment rate than would be more of the same from Dirty Harry.

Rookies

11-02-2010, 07:10 PM

First off, YES!!!, it would disturb me if it involved Angle. Wrong is wrong, no matter who is involved. Believe it or not the world is not completely filled with Hcap types who believe the ends justify the means.

And employers should not be in the business of intruding into the personal affairs of employees when those affairs have no connection to the business.
This is outright coercion, and has nothing to do with "encouragement". Exercising one's civic duty is a matter of personal conscience, in which employers and union bosses have no business intruding into or trying to violate that conscience. Some companies feel so strongly as I do about this that they actually have a policy forbidding employees to talk politics while "on the clock". What's next: Bosses telling people that they must attend church and which one? :bang: :bang:

And if execs in a company support candidate, they should keep that to themselves, as well.

Boxcar

Funny, I didn't see this mea pol culpa in 2008! ;)

You know when several buinesses ( e.g. MacDonalds & Walmart) did PRECISELY this , as well as small Joe the Plumbing Assistant firms who told their employees: If I have to pay for socialized medicine and have my taxes increased, then someone will likely lose their job. Be guided accordingly!

Oh, but that was the right, right ???:rolleyes:

By a quirk of fate, Harrah's will be comping me in about 3 weeks, so I'm happily staying there! :lol: :D

bigmack

11-02-2010, 07:28 PM

By a quirk of fate, Harrah's will be comping me in about 3 weeks, so I'm happily staying there! :lol: :D
It ain't so fateful, they've been running that Comps for Canadian Clowns promo for months.

boxcar

11-02-2010, 07:28 PM

It's stupid and probably counterproductive but in no way was anyone forced to do anything.

It all depends on how the "suggestion" to vote was worded by management.

Boxcar

boxcar

11-02-2010, 07:33 PM

Funny, I didn't see this mea pol culpa in 2008! ;)

You know when several buinesses ( e.g. MacDonalds & Walmart) did PRECISELY this , as well as small Joe the Plumbing Assistant firms who told their employees: If I have to pay for socialized medicine and have my taxes increased, then someone will likely lose their job. Be guided accordingly!

Oh, but that was the right, right ???:rolleyes:

By a quirk of fate, Harrah's will be comping me in about 3 weeks, so I'm happily staying there! :lol: :D

What part of my earlier post didn't you comprehend. I said, as the plain as the nose on your face, that wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Companies have zero business meddling into the personal affairs of employees. I could care less which way the company leans politically. Wrong is wrong! Got it now? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

ArlJim78

11-02-2010, 07:40 PM

For me everything comes down to the Nevada race tonight. If Dingy Harry wins, or worse yet wins and retains his majority leader status there is no justice and it will be a huge letdown. this corruptocrat should be put out to pasture for what he pulled this year.

they are pulling out all the stops on this one too, whatever it takes, illegal vote, SEIU goons, DOJ lawyers are already in place, as we saw earlier the casinos pulling out all the stops even if they have to "put them in a headlock".

this is the race of the night. I pray that dingy is sent packing by the people of Nevada.

Rookies

11-02-2010, 07:43 PM

What part of my earlier post didn't you comprehend. I said, as the plain as the nose on your face, that wrong is wrong no matter who does it. Companies have zero business meddling into the personal affairs of employees. I could care less which way the company leans politically. Wrong is wrong! Got it now? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

And what part of mine did you miss ?

Conveniently, you sat on your keyboard in 2008, but only now, with a different direction possible, you're out of the closet.

Way late... but finally on side...:rolleyes:

Rookies

11-02-2010, 07:51 PM

It ain't so fateful, they've been running that Comps for Canadian Clowns promo for months.

Canadian Sharps-certainly.;)

Come on by and I'll pour one on... er buy you a cold one...:D

TJDave

11-02-2010, 08:15 PM

It all depends on how the "suggestion" to vote was worded by management.

There is absolutely no way management can force an employee to vote for or against a particular candidate or know how a particular employee voted...unless the employee wishes it known.

woodtoo

11-02-2010, 10:36 PM

Angles' lawyers have filed voter intimidation charges over this ,we'll see.

woodtoo

11-03-2010, 12:26 AM

Reid has a 7 point lead 1/3 the way thru :faint:

JustRalph

11-03-2010, 12:34 AM

Fox calls it for Reid

Weak candidate........?

ArlJim78

11-03-2010, 12:46 AM

jballscalls

11-03-2010, 12:50 AM

the advantage Democrats have running against conservative women is that they can say anything about them and it's allowed. It's the "nut, sluts, or whores" offense and so far it works every time like a charm.

she is kind of nutty though. as was Palin. and so was O'donnell. I dont think Condaleeza or someone similar would receive that treatment, but i'm sure the rino's on the site here wouldnt agree

newtothegame

11-03-2010, 01:21 AM

Fox calls it for Reid

Weak candidate........?

Yeah, I think so JR. She wasn't the strongest candidate. But, none the less, I hope dirty Harry understands what just happened throughout the country. Chairmen, have been sliced and diced. Speakers gone...Reid hung on! Hopefully this will awaken him to whats going on (although I doubt it).

Dave Schwartz

11-03-2010, 01:56 AM

Oh, she was weak. A real nut case.

bigmack

11-03-2010, 02:27 AM

Oh, she was weak. A real nut case.
How did she float to the top? I think I may have questioned your take on Harry winning. I stand corrected.

This Tea Party thing is so novel you're bound to get some early rejects. Shame they were mostly women. Then again, there's no shortage of neurosis with women. :cool:

Shouldn't they be baking cookies or in the least, looking as hot as SP?

prospector

11-03-2010, 10:00 AM

By a quirk of fate, Harrah's will be comping me in about 3 weeks, so I'm happily staying there! :lol: :D
its good you're going there...i cut up my slot card last night..hopefully, others will join me..i even hope you win..maybe you could buy a clue..
good luck

prospector

11-03-2010, 10:02 AM

ArlJim78

11-03-2010, 10:18 AM

she is kind of nutty though. as was Palin. and so was O'donnell. I dont think Condaleeza or someone similar would receive that treatment, but i'm sure the rino's on the site here wouldnt agree
kinda nutty? by what standard?
the Harry Reid standard?
the Joe Biden standard?
the Nancy Pelosi standard?
those three among many others are allowed to say some of the most ridiculous, non-sensical, inaccurate, racially tinged, incoherent ramblings you will find anywhere. and these are the entrenched idolized incumbents who cast about how others are insane.

then you've got the media double standard, working overtime to manufacture sleazy allegations, forgetting to runs ad, etc.

what is insane is the stranglehold that the government/media/labor cartel has over the nation.

Dave Schwartz

11-03-2010, 11:20 AM

Mack,

She was just a loose cannon. She says these things - out of context - but they come back to haunt her.

For example, she once said that, given the chance, she'd do away with social security. Of course, what she meant was it should be replaced with something else; better. That quote was all over the media.

The best one was: If you are raped and get pregnant, you need to have the baby. Here's the quote: "Like making lemonade out of lemons."

I mean, you cannot say stuff like that and not get it exploited by a guy like Harry Reid.

She got through the primary because, as seems to happen often these days, the Republican Party could not come up with an honest, electable candidate. (Dems probably have the same problem but it doesn't seem to stop them from running.) The others all had black marks against them and have a reputation for being in the pockets of big gaming.

Brian Sandoval, who is our new Governor, would have defeated Harry easily, I believe. But my belief is that the Repubs did not want to run him against "their" Harry. Make no mistake - a lot of R's supported Reid in Nevada.

Reid is a master of the "good 'ole boy system" so alive in Nevada. He will always be tough to take down. This was our best shot and the R's blew it by putting up a very weak candidate.

Dave

JustRalph

11-03-2010, 03:14 PM

Reid is a master of the "good 'ole boy system" so alive in Nevada. He will always be tough to take down. This was our best shot and the R's blew it by putting up a very weak candidate.
Dave

Is that what they call the Mafia in Nevada ?

Dave Schwartz

11-03-2010, 05:50 PM

No. It is what they call the system where anyone who is in power, is related to someone in power or knows someone in power gets favoritism.

It is why Nevada ranks third in gaming tax revenues. Think about it... How is THAT possible?

JustRalph

11-03-2010, 09:17 PM

I find it odd that H. Reid retains his Senate seat but his son gets his ass waxed running for Governor

What accounts for that? Gotta be some kind of disconnect there.

Tom

11-03-2010, 09:59 PM

Might be the heat. It was 117 last time I was there. I hallucinated, too.

rastajenk

11-04-2010, 09:44 AM

They just didn't have enough time to fix two races, I guess; takes twice as long to make two marks ("on each in that stack of ballots in front of you, you nice loyal union patriot useful idiot").

boxcar

11-04-2010, 11:23 AM

I find it odd that H. Reid retains his Senate seat but his son gets his ass waxed running for Governor

What accounts for that? Gotta be some kind of disconnect there.

But there's no disconnect with the fact that his son had a direct connection or oversight of the voting machines -- I guess the same machines that had ol' Harry as the default selection on their screens!

Boxcar