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GatetoWire
10-09-2010, 11:15 PM
Anyone have a list of which Europeans have confirmed 100% that they are coming to the Breeders Cup?

Other than Goldikova I have not heard of anyone else who has confirmed 100%

I have heard there is a Japanese horse coming for the Classic. Is this true?

OTM Al
10-10-2010, 09:58 AM
Confirmed 100% is asking a bit this far out but the ones I have heard are all but definite are Midday to defend in the F&M turf and Pathfork for the Juvie.

Possibles include:
Mile: Dick Turpin, Rip Van Winkle (or maybe Classic), Paco Boy, Poet's Voice
F&M Turf: Stacelita, Sarafina
Turf: Workfoce, Arctic Cosmos, Fame and Glory, Redwood, Debussy, Chinchon
Juv Fil Turf: Misty for Me

Espoir City is the Japanese horse you refer to. He's not bad.

garyscpa
10-10-2010, 11:09 AM
Anyone have a list of which Europeans have confirmed 100% that they are coming to the Breeders Cup?

Other than Goldikova I have not heard of anyone else who has confirmed 100%

I have heard there is a Japanese horse coming for the Classic. Is this true?

You can recognize him by his eyes, that is, unless he's wearing blinkers. :)

OTM Al
10-10-2010, 11:56 AM
You can recognize him by his eyes, that is, unless he's wearing blinkers. :)

Someone's been looking at way too many PEB drawings and thinking they are funny.

GatetoWire
10-10-2010, 12:53 PM
Confirmed 100% is asking a bit this far out but the ones I have heard are all but definite are Midday to defend in the F&M turf and Pathfork for the Juvie.

Possibles include:
Mile: Dick Turpin, Rip Van Winkle (or maybe Classic), Paco Boy, Poet's Voice
F&M Turf: Stacelita, Sarafina
Turf: Workfoce, Arctic Cosmos, Fame and Glory, Redwood, Debussy, Chinchon
Juv Fil Turf: Misty for Me

Espoir City is the Japanese horse you refer to. He's not bad.



Thanks Al.....I was wondering about Behkabad. Have you heard anything about him?

Looks like Poet's Voice is out of the BC.
Goldophin announced that he is skipping the BC and is going to go in the Emirates Airline Champion Stakes (Group 1) at Newmarket next Saturday.

OTM Al
10-10-2010, 01:06 PM
Thanks Al.....I was wondering about Behkabad. Have you heard anything about him?

Looks like Poet's Voice is out of the BC.
Goldophin announced that he is skipping the BC and is going to go in the Emirates Airline Champion Stakes (Group 1) at Newmarket next Saturday.

Just saw the thing about Poet's Voice after I posted. Twice Over going to the same race so he won't be returning.

I would doubt Behkabad would come. I think he was all out for the Arc and his season is likely over. Haven't heard anything though but that's my guess.

thorobasePA
10-10-2010, 01:42 PM
Behkabad is due to go to Hong Kong festival I believe.

I don't think Misty For Me will be AOB's rep in Juv Fillies Turf, Together is more likely. Bright Horizon should run in the Marathon.

50/1 Prix l'Abbaye winner Gilt Edge Girl may go for the Turf Sprint.

Gitano Hernando may come over for the Classic.

I have a feeling that Stacelita may not be running in the BC but in another G1 turf race at a separate meeting.

OTM Al
10-10-2010, 02:47 PM
Didn't list Gitano as he is aiming at Champion Stakes as well, though they have left the Classic a possibility, though that sounds doubtful to me.

gm10
10-10-2010, 03:09 PM
Didn't list Gitano as he is aiming at Champion Stakes as well, though they have left the Classic a possibility, though that sounds doubtful to me.

If they could go to the Classic, I'd think they'd go for the Classic, but apparently he only qualifies for the Marathon at this point. That would be a walk-over imo, but there's not much glory in it.

I think Fame And Glory will definitely come over, the Arc was probably more of a prep (in hindsight).

Dick Turpin is done for the season if I remember correctly.

Pathfork is going into the Juveniles (dirt).

My nap would be Midday. Just a cut above everything else imo.

garyscpa
10-10-2010, 04:48 PM
Someone's been looking at way too many PEB drawings and thinking they are funny.

You're right. I should have given PEB, Dr. Swinesmeller, and his horse Casino Royale some credit for that. :)

RaceBookJoe
10-10-2010, 07:25 PM
I thought i heard that Frankel was goign to be in one of the BC races...cant find anything confirming though. rbj

Some_One
10-10-2010, 07:56 PM
Frankel is running in the Dewhurst or Racing Post Trophy I thought.
Espoir City is the Jpn horse for the Classic, I believe he won the Japan Cup Dirt last year
Red Desire I think is still planning for the FM Turf, will be hoping for some pace and a dry turf this time around.

thorobasePA
10-11-2010, 01:21 PM
Frankel is declared to race in a very hot Dewhurst next weekend. There are no plans for him to race at the BC.

I don't agree that the Arc was a prep for Fame and Glory; it's the biggest race in Europe and he came with a winning chance before receiving very bad interference in the home straight. I like his chances at Churchill Downs.

KaiserSoze
10-11-2010, 04:55 PM
F+G had a light enough campaign up to the Arc so shouldn't be over the top for the BC. Whether he is good enough or suited to the race is another question. Personally I don't think they care where they run him at this stage, if he wins or not it's debatable that he will have a place at Coolmore when he retires.

As far as I know Gitano Hernando would go for the Classic or the Turf if he were to go to the BC with the Classic being more likely.

gm10
10-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Frankel is declared to race in a very hot Dewhurst next weekend. There are no plans for him to race at the BC.

I don't agree that the Arc was a prep for Fame and Glory; it's the biggest race in Europe and he came with a winning chance before receiving very bad interference in the home straight. I like his chances at Churchill Downs.

There was an interesting article in the Racing Post Weekender which explained why this was probably a prep for him. I'm not a fan of F&G personally and I would not be surprised if AOB dropped him in the Classic.

gm10
10-11-2010, 05:09 PM
F+G had a light enough campaign up to the Arc so shouldn't be over the top for the BC. Whether he is good enough or suited to the race is another question. Personally I don't think they care where they run him at this stage, if he wins or not it's debatable that he will have a place at Coolmore when he retires.

As far as I know Gitano Hernando would go for the Classic or the Turf if he were to go to the BC with the Classic being more likely.

He doesn't qualify for the Classic apparently.

KaiserSoze
10-11-2010, 05:59 PM
I'm basing the Classic/Turf thing on the quote from Marco Botti in the RP, 07 Oct 2010, I don't know what the horse is entered for or if supplementing is possible at this stage.

"If we have to pass on the Champion Stakes, the plan would be to work the colt a couple of times on the fibresand at Southwell and determine after that if we would point for the Classic or the Turf.

"Barry Irwin of Team Valor International thinks the tenfurlongs on the dirt would fit the colt better than the 12 furlongs on the turf, but is keeping an open mind until after seeing how the colt breezes at Southwell. His trainer, at the moment, favours the Turf."

Who wrote the F+G article in the Weekender Gm10? Nick Modin and sometimes Fallon are the only two I ever give a look to if I read it

Si2see
10-11-2010, 08:21 PM
as long as my single for the last two years Goldikova comes I don't care who else makes the trip. :D

WinterTriangle
10-11-2010, 08:58 PM
Hey guys, Pace just put us the BC topic area, cool beans :jump:

I'm sure there will be a lot to talk about down there.

gm10
10-12-2010, 04:41 AM
I'm basing the Classic/Turf thing on the quote from Marco Botti in the RP, 07 Oct 2010, I don't know what the horse is entered for or if supplementing is possible at this stage.

"If we have to pass on the Champion Stakes, the plan would be to work the colt a couple of times on the fibresand at Southwell and determine after that if we would point for the Classic or the Turf.

"Barry Irwin of Team Valor International thinks the tenfurlongs on the dirt would fit the colt better than the 12 furlongs on the turf, but is keeping an open mind until after seeing how the colt breezes at Southwell. His trainer, at the moment, favours the Turf."

Who wrote the F+G article in the Weekender Gm10? Nick Modin and sometimes Fallon are the only two I ever give a look to if I read it

It was Mordin.

gm10
10-12-2010, 10:58 AM
Bekhabad confirmed for Turf
Sans Frontieres is a possible

GatetoWire
10-12-2010, 10:22 PM
Bekhabad confirmed for Turf
Sans Frontieres is a possible

I saw that Bekhabad is confirmed...he should really add to the strength of the field.

gm10
10-13-2010, 07:37 PM
A few more ... Plumania and Paco Boy.

gm10
10-15-2010, 09:01 AM
Looks like Fame & Glory isn't coming over. Cape Blanco is a possible.
Bright Horizon (Marathon) and Together (Juveniles Fillies Turf) are likely.
(All Aidan O'Brien)

nijinski
10-16-2010, 01:22 AM
Anyone else like Espoir City ?
Cannot find much on him regarding the Classic , but read they will supplement him.
This could be the one from Japan that is the real deal!!!

gm10
10-17-2010, 07:16 AM
Gitano Hernando could still be coming over after all!!! He's not a true turf horse, the dirt is a good idea to try imo.

gm10
10-21-2010, 04:58 AM
Rip Van Winkle retired
Cape Blanco and Fame & Glory stay in training but skipping the BC

Outlining Ballydoyle's likely team for the Breeders' Cup next month, O'Brien said: "Beethoven is being aimed at the Mile and Bright Horizon will go for the Marathon. Together is under serious consideration for the Juvenile Fillies Turf, while Treasure Beach, who ran third in the Royal Lodge, may go for the Juvenile Turf.

joanied
10-21-2010, 10:46 AM
Hey guys, Pace just put us the BC topic area, cool beans :jump:

I'm sure there will be a lot to talk about down there.

I didn't even know we had a BC section :blush: ...guess I should check out all the topic titles once in a while:)