Marijuana legal in CA ?

[redshift1]

Prop 19 approval leading by 10 points in early polling. California poised to become the pot capital of the free world!!!.

[bigmack]

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[pandy]

Perfect weather, beautiful beaches, gorgeous women, two of the greatest racetracks in the world, and now this, as if they needed more reasons to live there...Now if I only knew someone who could hook me up with a union job working for the state, damn I should've been a teacher...

[TJDave]

Marijuana legal in CA?

Pot has been de facto legal in CA for years. Medical marijuana allows virtually anyone to either grow and/or smoke dope. Last week the governor signed a law decriminalizing possession.

I hope Prop 19 passes. CA deserves the grief. ;)

[pandy]

This country waste hundreds of millions of dollars chasing after pot users and sellers, this decriminalization makes sense. Another smart thing would be to decriminalize prostitution, another waste of taxpayers money.

[redshift1]

Perfect weather, beautiful beaches, gorgeous women, two of the greatest racetracks in the world, and now this, as if they needed more reasons to live there...Now if I only knew someone who could hook me up with a union job working for the state, damn I should've been a teacher...

Believe me teachers in CA are not paid well.... a graduate degree gets you less than 50k ..... starting pay 35k and tenure is not guaranteed I live in CA and have some teacher friends who never know from contract to contract whether they have a job and contracts are one year long.

[pandy]

I'm surprised to hear that, although teacher salaries tend to be much higher in the richer neighberhoods. These days though you have to add in the benefits. As we've seen in New Jersey, the teachers have excellent health plans and pay nothing in, and can't get fired even if they suck. There aren't that many jobs like that in the public sector anymore, everyone pays into their health coverage and can be let go at any time. Plus the teachers you're talking about are paid that rate for 10 months of work.

[bigmack]

Depends on the county. Most TeachSals start over $40K

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[redshift1]

I'm surprised to hear that, although teacher salaries tend to be much higher in the richer neighberhoods. These days though you have to add in the benefits. As we've seen in New Jersey, the teachers have excellent health plans and pay nothing in, and can't get fired even if they suck. There aren't that many jobs like that in the public sector anymore, everyone pays into their health coverage and can be let go at any time. Plus the teachers you're talking about are paid that rate for 10 months of work.

I can't speak for NJ salaries but remember teachers spend a minimum of of 4.5 years for a teaching credential and 6.5 years for a masters in Ed. Most delivery drivers working for national companies make more than that right off the the street with a GED.

[redshift1]

Depends on the county. Most TeachSals start over $40K

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Does the article say if benefits are included in the average and does it include all levels of teaching because the 59k number seems very high.

[bigmack]

Does the article say if benefits are included in the average and does it include all levels of teaching because the 59k number seems very high.
It varies by county.

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http://teacherportal.com/salary/California-teacher-salary

http://www.ed-data.org/fiscal/TeacherSalary.asp?reportNumber=4096&level=06&fyr=current

http://www.ed-data.k12.ca.us/articles/article.asp?title=teachers%20in%20california

[redshift1]

Hard to come up with a specific number.

Comparisons of benefits among districts or even among employees of the same district can become quite complex. For example, a district could offer a single plan, two-party plan, family plan, or a cafeteria plan in which the employee selects benefits up to a total dollar allowance. Some districts also contribute to benefits for retired teachers. Occasionally salaries and benefits are combined into one lump sum, which complicates cross-district comparisons. This situation is noted in the Ed-Data Teacher Salary report where known. Further, some contracts call for higher salaries in lieu of benefits. Although there is some variation, expenditures on salaries and benefits for all employees typically make up 80 to 85% of a district’s budget, with the bulk of it going to teachers.

[pandy]

I know in jobs I've had I paid in anywhere from $2,500 to $5,000 a year towards my health benefits, which of course reduced my salary and compensation. Most of these public sector jobs have excellent benefits.

I saw a piece on the news last week where they interviewed a NY city sanitation worker who made over $100,000 last year and they said that the average sanitation worker makes $70,000 a year BEFORE benefits, and that is without over time. Clearly that is out of control spending paid for by the tax payers. The Daily News also had an article that reported that it cost taxpayers over $60,000 a year in salary and health benefits for every retired NY city Fireman. We all love firemen but they only have to work 20 years in NY and then they retire with half salary and top shelf health care for them and their spouse. This is certainly excessive and the main reason why cities and states like NY, NJ, Ca., Ct, and others are drowning in red ink.

[chickenhead]

I think it varies a lot by area -- my pops is a gym teacher, like "Go play soccer you little hooligans, leave me alone" and make 65K or so. That's maxed out, I'd guess.

To tie it back into the thread, that happens to be in Humboldt County, dead center of the marijuana trade. Lottsa folk gonna be voting emphatic NO up there. Take a lot of money out of there pockets.

Wholesale prices are already down to $1K-$1.2K per pound. More than 50% drop since 215 went into effect.

[TJDave]

Believe me teachers in CA are not paid well.... a graduate degree gets you less than 50k ..... starting pay 35k and tenure is not guaranteed I live in CA and have some teacher friends who never know from contract to contract whether they have a job and contracts are one year long.

But wouldn't prospective teachers know this? Years of training to land an underpaid position leads one to believe that educators have a higher calling...That money is not their motivator. Yet they still complain about salaries.

Am I the only one to find this odd? :rolleyes: