149:2 in the Jug.....amazes me

[JustRalph]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2010/09/24/a-heavenly-win.html?sid=101

Reading this piece just floors me. These times under 1:50 are something I thought I would never see. Having spent many a Friday or Saturday night at Scioto Downs while a teen, I would have never thought I would see these kinds of times. Simply incredible. If I read this piece right, the winning horse ran 149:2 twice and in 92 degree weather....... Amazing!

Little Brown Jug: A heavenly win
Rock N Roll Heaven equals world-record time of 1:49.2, becomes favorite for 3-year-old Horse of the Year award

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

[lamboguy]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2010/09/24/a-heavenly-win.html?sid=101

Reading this piece just floors me. These times under 1:50 are something I thought I would never see. Having spent many a Friday or Saturday night at Scioto Downs while a teen, I would have never thought I would see these kinds of times. Simply incredible. If I read this piece right, the winning horse ran 149:2 twice and in 92 degree weather....... Amazing!

Little Brown Jug: A heavenly win
Rock N Roll Heaven equals world-record time of 1:49.2, becomes favorite for 3-year-old Horse of the Year award

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCHthe LBJ was an incredible 2 days that was capped off with Rock N Roll Heaven. i am not a harness man, but had a great time watching the jug, its more fun than the mountain these days.

[wilderness]

Hey Ralph,
Standardbred Canada has all the heats replays on this page (http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/9-23-10/flex-muscle-lowers-na-seasons-mark-first-bucket-split.html). Scroll down to see the elimination heats.

The USTA website may have them as well, however SC's are easier to navigate.

BTW, HR-TV showed the entire Delaware card yesterday (404 on Dish).

[JustRalph]

Thanks for the video link

ran 149:2 twice, an hour apart........ amazing stuff

[wilderness]

Just imagine a T-Bred going 8 & change (6f) or 32 and change (1m) in two races an hour apart ;)

[Hanover1]

Tip of the cap to JC (for the zillionth time... :) )

[pandy]

The colt is an outstanding animal but the truth is, these final times are misleading because of the dramatically improved equipment that the horses use today, plus Delaware has by far the fastest half mile track in harness racing.

The track record for 6f at Turf Paradise is 1:06.2, but it means nothing because Turf Paradise has the most souped up surface in the sport of thoroughbred racing. Same is true for the home of the LBJ.

That being said, I enjoyed watching the Jug and Rock N Roll Heaven is certainly an outstanding colt, his effort in the Big M pace this summer was huge, even though he lost. But he is not as good as those times suggest.

Somebeachsomewhere, the best pacer since Nihilator, paced in 1:49.2 at Flamboro, the first horse ever to break 1:50 on a half mile track and that track is much slower than the one in Ohio. He did not race in the Jug but in my estimation he would probably pace in around 1:48 over the Delaware track.

[redshift1]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2010/09/24/a-heavenly-win.html?sid=101

Reading this piece just floors me. These times under 1:50 are something I thought I would never see. Having spent many a Friday or Saturday night at Scioto Downs while a teen, I would have never thought I would see these kinds of times. Simply incredible. If I read this piece right, the winning horse ran 149:2 twice and in 92 degree weather....... Amazing!

Little Brown Jug: A heavenly win
Rock N Roll Heaven equals world-record time of 1:49.2, becomes favorite for 3-year-old Horse of the Year award

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

That's funny I grew up near Hollywood park, when the Harness meet was still held and when I saw ScD in the form I always thought where the hell is that track. No internet then.

[JustRalph]

That's funny I grew up near Hollywood park, when the Harness meet was still held and when I saw ScD in the form I always thought where the hell is that track. No internet then.

Just south of the City of Columbus Ohio. :ThmbUp: Now owned by the same people who own MNR if my memory serves me right.

[xfile]

I was at the Meadowlands in 1977 and saw B.G.'s Bunny set the world record at 1:54 and change. The bikes are much lighter these days.

[pandy]

According to my calculations, the great B G'S BUNNY would pace in a range between 1:47 to 1:47.3 today at the Meadowlands.

[Overcall]

Wasn't BG's Bunny the horse that got scratched in the second heat of the Meadowlands pace? Stress crack? Ended his career.

[wilderness]

There may be something on B G's Bunny in the Meadowlands websites archives. Good Luck.

Found this brief item (http://photo.pds.org:5005/student/media?id=bt178148) on a google search (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=17259,22713,26614,26751&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=%22b+g%27s+bunny%22+%2Bhorse&cp=20&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=%22b+g%27s+bunny%22+%2Bhorse&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=8d9c50a61d5b9175):

Harness Racing. Three-year-old pacers dominated in 1977. Governor Skipper set a world record of 1 minute 56 1/5 seconds in winning the one-mile Little Brown Jug at Delaware, Ohio, on September 22. B. G.'s Bunny became the fastest 3-year-old pacer of all time by going that distance in 1 minute 54 seconds in New Jersey on July 12.
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Sept 22, 1977 was likely Garden State.

[wilderness]

Duh! Earth to Don.

Sept 22, 1977 was the LBJ and Governor's Skipper.

[abetts00]

Yes, the track at Delaware is fastest half mile track out there but to say that the records he set there are meaningless is ridiculous. Are records taken at Colonial Downs and the Red Mile meaningless? Simply put you cant take something away from a horse just because of the track he was racing on and you cant give a horse a mile that he never went.

[pandy]

I never said Rock N Roll Heaven's record is meaningless, he is an outstanding colt. I'm just putting it in perspective. Yes, the records set at Colonial Downs, Delaware Fair Grounds, and The Red Mile are not as prestigious from a historical standpoint as records set on tracks that are not insanely fast.

[DeanT]

It is a hell of a fast piece of dirt. Actually, mind-bogglingly fast. I watched Lucky Man go 49.2 on cruise control and I watch him have trouble doing that at Mohawk a lot of weeks.

Beach's 149.2 at Flammy was the most amazing speed-performance on a half that I have ever seen. The colt did not even break a sweat.

[pandy]

I agree, Somebacksomewhere's world record at Flamboro was remarkable, he was a truly great colt.

[DeanT]

I was there that day and it was something to see. He barely chirped to him. Shadow Play a couple of weeks later won the jug in a WR for straight heats at the Jug in 150, and he can not come close to cutting into the back half speed show. I still marvel at how good this horse was. Huge gait too, but he went around a half like Flammy like a hoop around a barrel. Even Gary Guy was shocked at the final time as he did it so easily.

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