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andymays
09-22-2010, 06:07 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017335-503544.html

Highlights/Excerpt

Here are some highlights. The full document is available at the link.

Jobs: - Stop job-killing tax hikes
- Allow small businesses to take a tax deduction equal to 20 percent of their income
- Require congressional approval for any new federal regulation that would add to the deficit
- Repeal small business mandates in the new health care law.

Cutting Spending:
- Repeal and Replace health care
- Roll back non-discretionary spending to 2008 levels before TARP and stimulus (will save $100 billion in first year alone)
- Establish strict budget caps to limit federal spending going forward
- Cancel all future TARP payments and reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Reforming Congress:
- Will require that every bill have a citation of constitutional authority
- Give members at least 3 days to read bills before a vote

Defense:
- Provide resources to troops
- Fund missile defense
- Enforce sanctions in Iran

fast4522
09-22-2010, 06:29 PM
This is the death knell of the Obama Administration, you give your average American 40 days to read something in plain English that is counter to what the Obama administration is doing and your going to see people act as they did during the last slaughter of Democrat's with Clinton's mid term elections. God bless America.

46zilzal
09-22-2010, 06:43 PM
I'm reading all about the regenerative cycle of division baloney while both sides SCREW the electorate in a good book The Second Civil War by Ronald Brownstein


Those who study history discover that nothing is new. It only comes in a different package but it is the same tired old Bull.

fast4522
09-22-2010, 06:52 PM
No One Cares, The USA is none of your affair. Foreign opinion is worth less than yesterdays rubbish.

46zilzal
09-22-2010, 06:54 PM
No One Cares, The USA is none of your affair. Foreign opinion is worth less than yesterdays rubbish.
Brownstein is a reporter for the LA Times and this book is highly recommended.

fast4522
09-22-2010, 07:01 PM
The Left Coast is right up there with Canada or higher on THC with the new THC ice cream. Forget about burning a Koran, lets burn Zilzal46 book list.

bigmack
09-22-2010, 07:07 PM
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc
You got it all except:

Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Look for a letter from Publishers Weekly :ThmbUp:

prospector
09-22-2010, 07:13 PM
The Left Coast is right up there with Canada or higher on THC with the new THC ice cream. Forget about burning a Koran, lets burn Zilzal46 book list.
:lol::lol::lol:

Mike at A+
09-22-2010, 07:34 PM
To "Defense", I would add "Build sniper towers 1 mile apart on the southern border".

DJofSD
09-22-2010, 07:44 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Trickle-Up-Poverty-Stopping-Security%20%20/dp/0062010972/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281717673&s%20%20r=8-1

Tom
09-22-2010, 08:02 PM
To "Defense", I would add "Build sniper towers 1 mile apart on the southern border".

Now that is just plain crazy talk.
You can't do stupid stuff like that. For crying out loud.........1/4 mile maximum! :rolleyes:;)

Tom
09-22-2010, 08:03 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Trickle-Up-Poverty-Stopping-Security%20%20/dp/0062010972/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281717673&s%20%20r=8-1

I thought this was Chris Mathew's biography at first!
This looks like must-read!

Liberalism is a cancer, and Obama is a polyp.

ArlJim78
09-22-2010, 08:05 PM
where is the part where they pledge to run Pelosi out of town on rail?:confused:

Mike at A+
09-22-2010, 08:54 PM
Now that is just plain crazy talk.
You can't do stupid stuff like that. For crying out loud.........1/4 mile maximum! :rolleyes:;)
Not if you have the right scope.

DJofSD
09-22-2010, 09:05 PM
The History Channel has aired a program about snipers. Dealy accurate at a helleva lot farther than a mile.

mostpost
09-22-2010, 09:38 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017335-503544.html

Highlights/Excerpt

Here are some highlights. The full document is available at the link.

Jobs: - Stop job-killing tax hikes
We've had ten years of lower taxes. What has it accomplished? Do we have full employment? Not even close. Have we reduced the deficit? Just the opposite.
- Allow small businesses to take a tax deduction equal to 20 percent of their income
So, just like that they now pay tax on only 80% of their income. And you ask nothing in return. At least tie the deduction to jobs created.
- Require congressional approval for any new federal regulation that would add to the deficit
Apparently Republicans are not familiar with seperation of powers. :rolleyes:
- Repeal small business mandates in the new health care law.
They're not going to repeal anything. One word VETO

Cutting Spending:
- Repeal and Replace health care
SEE ABOVE
- Roll back non-discretionary spending to 2008 levels before TARP and stimulus (will save $100 billion in first year alone)
Such as Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment Comp. Take everything away from the people who have the least. BUNCH OF UNFEELING BASTARDS
- Establish strict budget caps to limit federal spending going forward
Stupid, stupid, stupid!! Why do you think Califorrnia is in the shape it's in?
Because they have no flexibility.
- Cancel all future TARP payments and reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Reforming Congress:
- Will require that every bill have a citation of constitutional authority
What does that even mean? Who decides? Is Congress now going to take over the function of the judiciary? These idiots don't understand that the constitution means more than what's on paper. Always has. Always will.
- Give members at least 3 days to read bills before a vote
How many bills go through Congress in a year? Thousands? Three thousand days a year. Something wrong with that math. These guys are idiots.

Defense:
- Provide resources to troops
Apparently that does not include body armor.
- Fund missile defense
I think we have that.
- Enforce sanctions in Iran

The whole thing is stupidity raised beyond the nth degree. Designed to placate the numbskulls who belong to the Tea Party. Any thinking person realizes how dumb this is>

mostpost
09-22-2010, 09:43 PM
No One Cares, The USA is none of your affair. Foreign opinion is worth less than yesterdays rubbish.
I am proud to be an American. Very proud. Not in the least embarassed by it.
I'M VERY EMBARASSED THAT YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.

andymays
09-22-2010, 09:51 PM
The whole thing is stupidity raised beyond the nth degree. Designed to placate the numbskulls who belong to the Tea Party. Any thinking person realizes how dumb this is>

I'm glad to see that the new "Pledge to America" has got you off stride and unhinged. :)

Calling the people who participate in the Tea Party numbskulls doesn't help your side but keep on keepin on. Just like the attacks on Fox News help increase viewership, the attacks on the Tea Party make them stronger as well.

Keep throwing gas on the fire mosty. :ThmbUp:

fast4522
09-22-2010, 09:53 PM
I am proud to be an American. Very proud. Not in the least embarassed by it.
I'M VERY EMBARASSED THAT YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.

Ok, good for you, we all know you have issues.

boxcar
09-22-2010, 10:29 PM
Yikes! Is that Mosty going postal on us? :eek: :eek: Poor guy. So many of us invested a lot of time to get him on the Right path. :(

Boxcar

Tom
09-22-2010, 10:53 PM
The History Channel has aired a program about snipers. Dealy accurate at a helleva lot farther than a mile.

I love that shot at the Taliban behind the brick wall - all you see is the huge blood splatter on the wall behind them! Through the bricks! :ThmbUp:

Golf and Horses
09-23-2010, 12:03 AM
I love that shot at the Taliban behind the brick wall - all you see is the huge blood splatter on the wall behind them! Through the bricks! :ThmbUp:
Talk about hijacking a thread....but you guys started it!!! It was a great shot!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHuQNJ4byU

fast4522
09-23-2010, 05:53 AM
A Must See.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA

cj's dad
09-23-2010, 08:31 AM
I am proud to be an American. Very proud. Not in the least embarassed by it.
I'M VERY EMBARASSED THAT YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.

Ummm Mostie, I think Fast was referring to 46. See posts 3 & 4

jballscalls
09-23-2010, 11:14 AM
one thing i see in this is "cut spending levels back to 2008 levels" etc.

i keep hearing about smaller gov't from the right, but are they actually going to get rid of so many of these programs???

seems to me gov't was still wayyyyy to big in 2008 than it should be, so bringing it back to that is still not the answer imho.

DJofSD
09-23-2010, 11:21 AM
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

mostpost
09-23-2010, 12:44 PM
Ummm Mostie, I think Fast was referring to 46. See posts 3 & 4
I understand who he was referring to. I object to his view that if you don' t live in this country, you don't matter. That you are somehow inferior. An attitude that is prevalent on the right. It is possible to like yourself without denigrating someone else. It is possible to disagree and not be disagreeable.
I disagree with 46 on a lot of things; or I think I would if I could figure out what he's saying, :confused: but I would not tell him is opinion has no value because he lives in Canada.

boxcar
09-23-2010, 01:13 PM
I understand who he was referring to. I object to his view that if you don' t live in this country, you don't matter. That you are somehow inferior. An attitude that is prevalent on the right. It is possible to like yourself without denigrating someone else. It is possible to disagree and not be disagreeable.
I disagree with 46 on a lot of things; or I think I would if I could figure out what he's saying, :confused: but I would not tell him is opinion has no value because he lives in Canada.

In the final analysis his opinion doesn't mean diddly -- not unless he's voting here illegally. Got it now? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

46zilzal
09-23-2010, 01:26 PM
In the final analysis his opinion doesn't mean diddly -- not unless he's voting here illegally. Got it now? :rolleyes:

Boxcar
ABSENTEE ballot

senortout
09-23-2010, 01:26 PM
In the final analysis his opinion doesn't mean diddly -- not unless he's voting here illegally. Got it now? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

Sorry BC but all opinions matter. Some people vote in other ways. Troll on

DJofSD
09-23-2010, 01:35 PM
Sorry BC but all opinions matter. Some people vote in other ways. Troll on
I learned a long time ago, opinions are like *ssholes -- everybody has one.

mostpost
09-23-2010, 01:47 PM
A Must See.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA
Right!! I'm going to pay a lot of attention to a diatribe by a guy who calls himself "Funbobbasso" In addition to the fact that he looks like a fool playing dress up, the whole video is replete with inaccuracies.
Laws must apply to Congressmen. They do. The HealthCare Bill, for example, does not exempt members of congress. Members of congress do pay into Social Security; they have since 1984. Members of congress do not get their full salary as a pension after only one term. The amount of their pension is based on their term of service and the amount they have contributed. A retired congressman can take his pension at the age of 62 with five years of service; at the age of 50 with 20 years of service; or at any age with 25 years of service. That last is kind of misleading since the earliest one can become a member of congress is at age 25.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp
FUNBOBBASSO thinks he's Thomas Paine? Here is a quote from the real Thomas Paine:
Pay as a remission of taxes to every poor family, out of the surplus taxes, and in room of poor-rates, four pounds a year for every child under fourteen years of age. " Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man.
Sounds a lot like.........SOCIALISM!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Tom
09-23-2010, 02:10 PM
Thomas Paine does not decided what is a right when it involves an obligation my part.

Right do not create obligations.

Notice the words surplus taxes.
We do not have surplus taxes.
We have a deficit.

JustRalph
09-23-2010, 05:08 PM
I learned a long time ago, opinions are like *ssholes -- everybody has one.

and they all stink

riskman
09-23-2010, 05:23 PM
and they all stink


:lol: :lol: :lol:

And better yet:

I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them.
George Bush
41st president of US (1924 - )

fast4522
09-23-2010, 10:50 PM
The Thomas Paine youtube is to provoke thought, to suggest we the people and not the elite. You have your own opinion smell your fingers after and see if you like the smell perverts because if you believe in how we became great as a Nation you will loathe those with stinky fingers from being in other peoples pockets. You want to divvy the pie make sure it is your pie to divvy because I WILL NOT judge those who say stay the hell out of my back yard. You really feel your way is a trend that the election will favor lets see exactly how the majority really feels. If I am wrong on this then I do indeed have egg to wear, if you are wrong the road goes on forever and the party will never end, bank on it.

boxcar
09-23-2010, 11:05 PM
Sorry BC but all opinions matter. Some people vote in other ways. Troll on

Care to elaborate about all those "other ways"? In the U.S.A. there's only one kind of vote that matters. From what planet do you hail...TROLL!? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

GameTheory
09-23-2010, 11:23 PM
- Will require that every bill have a citation of constitutional authority
Boy wouldn't that be interesting. I've always thought they needed some mechanism like that.

It wouldn't be practical to have the court battle before each bill, but if they had to draft a statement as to WHY the law was constitutional in their view, that would be great. I wonder if they could make it retro-active? It would be interesting to see where they think some of their imaginary powers come from. It would also be interesting to see the SC put a bitch-slap on an explicitly declared line of reasoning when they really stretch things.

They'll never do it though.

jognlope
09-24-2010, 09:27 AM
Pledge to use false document to win elections.

bigmack
09-24-2010, 09:55 AM
Pledge to use false document to win elections.
Oh, now this sounds explosive. Details??

jballscalls
09-24-2010, 10:23 AM
just curious, but why the need to write down this "pledge" i mean they basically wrote down their same platform that they've always had and used?? i mean we read the same stuff back here on a daily basis, was it just to generate some news?

Tom
09-24-2010, 10:39 AM
Pledge to use false document to win elections.

Obama? His missing BC you mean?
Yeah, no excuse for that crap.

Tom
09-24-2010, 10:41 AM
just curious, but why the need to write down this "pledge" i mean they basically wrote down their same platform that they've always had and used?? i mean we read the same stuff back here on a daily basis, was it just to generate some news?

Because unlike Obama, the platform is now documented.

jognlope
09-24-2010, 12:09 PM
Those SOBs do not care about individuals facing high grade cancer, like the woman Gail who was in Obama's backyard health care act discussion yesterday. You know, they sound like schmucks, no caring, no concern for these people facing death without the proper treatment because they have no insurance. Just SOBs, they sound like.

johnhannibalsmith
09-24-2010, 12:30 PM
Those SOBs do not care about individuals facing high grade cancer, like the woman Gail who was in Obama's backyard health care act discussion yesterday. You know, they sound like schmucks, no caring, no concern for these people facing death without the proper treatment because they have no insurance. Just SOBs, they sound like.

They don't care about Gail. Nobody in Washington does. I'm not sure if politics is a lot like reality TV or if reality TV is a lot like politics - real people in real settings with real consequences - but still a charade, loosely choreographed drama for our viewership. Is that a little easier to stomach? Or, is it simply much more enjoyable if we can play along with the cast in the interactive home game?

Tom
09-24-2010, 12:39 PM
Those SOBs do not care about individuals facing high grade cancer, like the woman Gail who was in Obama's backyard health care act discussion yesterday. You know, they sound like schmucks, no caring, no concern for these people facing death without the proper treatment because they have no insurance. Just SOBs, they sound like.

Yes, I agree. Those democrats.....what scumbags they are!
Limiting Medicare, raising taxes, forcing health care costs to go up, putting people out of work.....how do they sleep at night?

jognlope
09-24-2010, 01:38 PM
So you don't want to limit Medicare right? So let me hear how you want our deficit decreased...since Medicare takes up the biggest chunk. By not letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top 2%, right? There was a really smart guy on one of the political shows who said it right "Tea partiers want the deficit reduced, but they still want all the stuff." 2 + 2 = 0, the new Republican math.

boxcar
09-24-2010, 01:44 PM
So you don't want to limit Medicare right? So let me hear how you want our deficit decreased...since Medicare takes up the biggest chunk. By not letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the top 2%, right? There was a really smart guy on one of the political shows who said it right "Tea partiers want the deficit reduced, but they still want all the stuff." 2 + 2 = 0, the new Republican math.


If that "really smart guy" said that, he's really not that swift. Trust me on this. :rolleyes:

Boxcar

bigmack
09-24-2010, 01:53 PM
Pledge to use false document to win elections.
I'm still waitin' to hear all about this document. Sounds intriguing.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/9_24_10_10_52_13.png

Tom
09-24-2010, 02:00 PM
So let me hear how you want our deficit decreased


Stop spending.

Black Ruby
09-24-2010, 02:02 PM
Care to elaborate about all those "other ways"? In the U.S.A. there's only one kind of vote that matters. From what planet do you hail...TROLL!? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

No vote has as much effect as the corporate contribution or the lobbyist cash.

boxcar
09-24-2010, 03:02 PM
No vote has as much effect as the corporate contribution or the lobbyist cash.

Ditto for Big Labor. But in the final analysis both Big Biz and Big Labor only contribute huge sums to their candidates' campaigns. Neither holds a gun to any voter's head to get him or her to pull the lever a certain way.

Boxcar

Robert Goren
09-24-2010, 03:10 PM
I have a question about the missle defense plank. Is that one based in eastern Europe someplace or is it one for the US main land?

Tom
09-24-2010, 03:31 PM
Ditto for Big Labor. But in the final analysis both Big Biz and Big Labor only contribute huge sums to their candidates' campaigns. Neither holds a gun to any voter's head to get him or her to pull the lever a certain way.

Boxcar

Wasn't Obama bought and paid for by big union money?

DJofSD
09-24-2010, 03:36 PM
Wasn't Obama bought and paid for by big union money?
I thought I had read some place they purchased the Lincoln Bedroom.

jognlope
09-24-2010, 04:15 PM
Stop spending what?

ArlJim78
09-24-2010, 04:21 PM
I have a question about the missle defense plank. Is that one based in eastern Europe someplace or is it one for the US main land?
I think the main priority now is to have a defense against Iranian missles for Israel or other countries that come within their range. But I suppose the technology can be used where ever it is deemed necessary.

bigmack
09-24-2010, 04:22 PM
Stop spending what?
What false document?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/9_24_10_10_52_13.png

boxcar
09-24-2010, 04:26 PM
Wasn't Obama bought and paid for by big union money?

Libs never talk about Big Labor. This is because Big Biz is the evil, greedy, lying, cheating aggressor out to screw the entire planet. There's no such thing as Big Labor.

And there's no such thing as Big Gov. Government in a lib's mind can never be big or powerful enough. After all, they are the self-righteous, self-appointed, self-anointed guardians and protectors of Life, Liberty Justice --the American way of life. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Boxcar
P.S. And, yes, the Marxist in the WH was bought and paid for by Big Labor.

DJofSD
09-24-2010, 04:30 PM
Big government especially on the Federal level is the opium of liberals and democrats.

Tom
09-25-2010, 10:24 AM
Stop spending what?
Stop spending our money!