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Pell Mell
09-13-2010, 02:10 PM
Of course out lefties have been to Europe and know this is not true.




Geert Wilders is a Dutch Member of Parliament.

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In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: Who lost Europe ?'
Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands , at the Four Seasons, New York , introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem .

Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe . Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem .

The Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks.. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. There are mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe . These are the building blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe . With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam , Marseille and Malmo in Sweden . In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin . The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels , because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya , Israel . I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe . San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France . One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey .

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers', because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission' . Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel . First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines , Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan , Lebanon , and Aceh in Indonesia . Israel is simply in the way.. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel . It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the co ntrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel , they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands , 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome , Athens and Jerusalem .

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe , American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish.. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so.

We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know ! This is very serious, and we just MUST do something ! God help us ..

Let's Roll
09-13-2010, 05:29 PM
I'm on a few Internet boards, have been for about 9 years, on and off.
This is the most compelling and important post I've ever seen a board member make.
Read this. Understand this !

boxcar
09-13-2010, 05:55 PM
Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission' . Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now we can understand why the Left in this country is so enamored with Islam --why the Left has prostituted itself with Islam. Islam and the Left both have a common enemy: Freedom.

The writer is dead on target: Islam is NOT compatible with freedom or personal liberties and capitalism -- anymore than Leftist ideology is. And what is it that the Left is constantly attacking? Is it not these three!? The Left does it in the name of "social justice". Islam does it in the name Allaha and sharia law -- a law which they think is just.

And like Islam, doesn't the Left desire to control virtually every aspect of our personal lives -- right down to our personal retirement accounts, what eat, what we drink, what kind of health care we want for ourselves, what kind of cars we drive, what kind of light bulbs we use in our fixtures at home, etc., etc., etc.. The list is endless and it will continue to grow unless we trample progressive-socialist-Marxist ideology and Islamic ideology to dust.

Boxcar

ArlJim78
09-13-2010, 05:57 PM
I also plead for people to open their eyes on this matter and become informed. All over this country leaders like the president take care to always point out that we are not at war with Islam. The problem is that Islam is waging a slow war against the west, and the sooner we wake up and realize that the better.

46zilzal
09-13-2010, 06:06 PM
throw out that fear mongering.....Right up there with killer bees!

witchdoctor
09-13-2010, 06:34 PM
throw out that fear mongering.....Right up there with killer bees!

Thank you Neville Chamberlain.

boxcar
09-13-2010, 06:39 PM
throw out that fear mongering.....Right up there with killer bees!

Precisely the way I feel about man-made global warming.

Talking about which, Zil...doesn't your head ever feel warm due to where you have parked it? Dark, warm and moist can't be a good environment for it. Not exactly a winning Tri.

Boxcar

ArlJim78
09-13-2010, 07:02 PM
throw out that fear mongering.....Right up there with killer bees!
you're a real johnny-one-note.
US = always BAD
every other country in the world = no problem whatsover

an odd perspective from someone who lives in a country that merely rides on our coattails. don't ever forget that your freedoms in Canada are guaranteed by the US. you should be showing a little appreciation our way instead of the constant barbs.

Native Texan III
09-13-2010, 07:17 PM
"I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe."


Just what USA needs right now, one more racist loudmouth spreading lies.
Does no one ever stop to question what the actual evidence is and just how ridiculous these claims are?

Greyfox
09-13-2010, 07:34 PM
throw out that fear mongering.....Right up there with killer bees!

Facts aren't fear mongering.
Take your head out of the sand Zilly.

http://caosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/head-in-sand.jpg


The Muslimization of Europe is well underway.
It's just a matter of time until they are the majority.


The birth rate of native born Europeans is low.
The birth rate of Muslim's who have migrated to Europe is significantly higher.

From the Pew forum link :

http://pewforum.org/Muslim/An-Uncertain-Road-Muslims-and-the-Future-of-Europe.aspx

"Islam is already the fastest-growing religion in Europe. Driven by immigration and high birthrates, the number of Muslims on the continent has tripled in the last 30 years. Most demographers forecast a similar or even higher rate of growth in the coming decades.

The social impact of this growing population is magnified by a low birthrate among native Europeans. After a post-World War II baby boom, birthrates in Europe have dropped to an average of 1.45 children per couple, far below the 2.1 needed to keep population growth at replacement levels.

boxcar
09-13-2010, 07:37 PM
"I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe."


Just what USA needs right now, one more racist loudmouth spreading lies.
Does no one ever stop to question what the actual evidence is and just how ridiculous these claims are?

Do yourself a huge favor and beg, borrow or steal a copy of the Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America. You'll enjoy it. It's well documented -- chock full of facts and figures. Be sure to come back and give us a review after you've read it. ;)

Boxcar

boxcar
09-13-2010, 07:40 PM
Facts aren't fear mongering.
Take your head out of the sand Zilly.

http://caosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/head-in-sand.jpg


The Muslimization of Europe is well underway.
It's just a matter of time until they are the majority.


The birth rate of native born Europeans is low.
The birth rate of Muslim's who have migrated to Europe is significantly higher.

From the Pew forum link :

http://pewforum.org/Muslim/An-Uncertain-Road-Muslims-and-the-Future-of-Europe.aspx

"Islam is already the fastest-growing religion in Europe. Driven by immigration and high birthrates, the number of Muslims on the continent has tripled in the last 30 years. Most demographers forecast a similar or even higher rate of growth in the coming decades.

The social impact of this growing population is magnified by a low birthrate among native Europeans. After a post-World War II baby boom, birthrates in Europe have dropped to an average of 1.45 children per couple, far below the 2.1 needed to keep population growth at replacement levels.

You're wasting your breath. Zilly and his ilk are far more comfortable assuming the position in your graphic. It's their way of...er...escaping reality.

Boxcar

nijinski
09-13-2010, 07:42 PM
"I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe."


Just what USA needs right now, one more racist loudmouth spreading lies.
Does no one ever stop to question what the actual evidence is and just how ridiculous these claims are?
Geert Wilder has threats to his life for quite a while , yet he refuses to let go
of his right of free speech.
If you think he is spreading lies rethink the matter of Theo Van Gogh and how
in broad daylight he was murdered by a Muslim for his depictions of them.

Mr Van Gogh had not just singled out Muslims , he tore up many an etnic group .
but no one else put a price on his head.,

Pell Mell
09-13-2010, 07:58 PM
"I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe."


Just what USA needs right now, one more racist loudmouth spreading lies.
Does no one ever stop to question what the actual evidence is and just how ridiculous these claims are?

I would suppose that his living there and seeing what's going on disqualifies him from having a factual opinion.

On the other hand, someone like you who has probably never had to contend with those circumstances knows better.

You would probably tell people in Africa they have nothing to fear from malaria because you don't.

The one thing i admire about you and your kind is that you are absolutely fearless. You fear no enemy and always think that there is no enemy but only that which exists in the minds of bigots and racists.

Someday you will all eat your words when your begging for mercy at the hands of those you swore were peace loving and kind peoples. I wish I could be there to watch you wallow in your own shit. :mad:

Pell Mell
09-13-2010, 08:21 PM
[QUOTE=46zilzal]throw out that fear mongering.....Right up there with killer bees![/QUOTE

Zilly you have proven a thousand times on this board that you have a mental deficiency of some sort. You can get provoked and upset with pill companies, doctors, bureaucrats, etc. But when it comes to something or someone that can actually cause harm you are totally impervious to any threats.

I really think that you could commit murder and get away with it because, under close scrutiny, any judge would deem you mentally incompetent to stand trial. :lol:

Greyfox
09-13-2010, 08:49 PM
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The exact statistics in the above video can be questioned.
Nevertheless, the trends reported in it are in operation.
View it and think.

JustRalph
09-13-2010, 10:52 PM
reminds me...... I have to buy some 9mm ammo.............

boxcar
09-13-2010, 10:55 PM
Read all about the Muslim Brotherhood. Real "mainstream" Islam. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Anyhow, long read but very informative.

http://www.meforum.org/687/the-muslim-brotherhoods-conquest-of-europe?gclid=CI6FjP3zhaQCFUHt7Qodhh

Boxcar

46zilzal
09-14-2010, 12:27 AM
Zilly you have proven a thousand times on this board that you have a mental deficiency of some sort. You can get provoked and upset with pill companies, doctors, bureaucrats, etc. But when it comes to something or someone that can actually cause harm you are totally impervious to any threats.

I really think that you could commit murder and get away with it because, under close scrutiny, any judge would deem you mentally incompetent to stand trial. :lol:
No I just laugh at the lemmings: never an original thought

bigmack
09-14-2010, 01:36 AM
No I just laugh at the lemmings: never an original thought
People like you don't laugh, they whine. You have no humor. You bear the weight of the world with no effect.

“A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road.”

46zilzal
09-14-2010, 11:14 AM
xenophobia: calling all Germans HUNS, the characterization of all Japanese as having bucked teeth and glasses, the Rwandan, Armenian, Bosnian genocides, the old South (which is still alive and well as creating 2nd class citizenship to people of color)

People never learn from history. They take a single factor and assume everyone of them is the same, just like these same clowns assess the gay population.....

It is as stupid as assuming something for all left handed people or all of those with green eyes as having some nasty disposition....and is it has a very old title PREJUDICE.....PRE-JUDGMENT

46zilzal
09-14-2010, 11:37 AM
AND it is usually those who are Christians, ONE hour per week, who are out in the front lines fomenting this prejudice conveniently forgetting all that their religion supposedly taught them about tolerance.....

No wonder people run from these goons in mass...

Pell Mell
09-14-2010, 11:40 AM
xenophobia: calling all Germans HUNS, the characterization of all Japanese as having bucked teeth and glasses, the Rwandan, Armenian, Bosnian genocides, the old South (which is still alive and well as creating 2nd class citizenship to people of color)

People never learn from history. They take a single factor and assume everyone of them is the same, just like these same clowns assess the gay population.....

It is as stupid as assuming something for all left handed people or all of those with green eyes as having some nasty disposition....and is it has a very old title PREJUDICE.....PRE-JUDGMENT

And I suppose if you met 2 pit bulls on the prowl in an alley you wouldn't be prejudiced, you would treat them as any other dog, like a poodle or cocker. Just plain stupid! I know plenty of places where you wouldn't survive very long. :bang:

Tom
09-14-2010, 11:40 AM
People never learn from history. They take a single factor and assume everyone of them is the same, just like these same clowns assess the gay population.....

...and cops, and the military, and drug companies....yadda yadda yadda.
Physician, heal thyself.

ArlJim78
09-14-2010, 11:55 AM
actually there was no pre-judgement and no assumption that all of "them" are the same. just dealing with the facts and the facts show that the threat is very real. of course not all of them are the same, but that hardly matters because those in charge are proposing violence to any who get in their way of domination and conquest, and there are legions of followers carrying out these marching orders. there is sufficient evidence if you only dare to open your eyes enough to see it.

ArlJim78
09-14-2010, 12:18 PM
They take a single factor and assume everyone of them is the same, just like these same clowns assess the gay population.....

In one sentence you speak against people who make assumtions and paint with a broad brush and then you do exactly the same thing by smearing others by making the wild accusation in the second part of the sentance. You offer nothing but ad hominems.