WallyMart

[bigmack]

I stepped foot in one for the second time in a decade today. I thought people were exaggerating about the sketchiness of the patrons. WOW!

People walking around in slippers, women with sweatpants and their bellies hangin' out. Dudes with no shirts & mullets. Out of control kids grabbing everything in sight.

Farkin' pandemonium.

Employee of the month looked not unlike this:

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I don't care if I can get an 8 pack of REESE'S peanut butter cups for .99. I ain't never goin' back. :eek:

The place grinds my gears.

[JustRalph]

I have pretty much given up on them unless it is really convenient for me.

The studies show that the average family saves over 2k a year shopping at Wally World........but I recently haven't run into anyone at Walmart that lives up to that standard :lol:

Btw, I find it varies greatly based on where the Walmart is located. Which makes perfect sense.

I used to patronize a newer Walmart in Concord NC that I would give a 5 star rating to.

Where I live now, I worry about my car in the lot........and the employees who are taking their smoke breaks outside scare me.........

[jballscalls]

i only went one time and it was in my hometown and it was super sketchy, there was an entire Ethopian gang in one part of the store! i mean group of Ethiopian Americans

[PaceAdvantage]

i only went one time and it was in my hometown and it was super sketchy, there was an entire Ethopian gang in one part of the store! i mean group of Ethiopian AmericansNow you're just putting us on for the hell of it, right? :lol:

You did a lot of this sort of thing when you first "came back" here to PaceAdvantage...I can't say I was a fan of this kind of thing back then either... :lol: :lol:

[bigmack]

Wow, that jb wit is sharp lately. :sleeping:
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Some MoMo started a site with pics of WM customers. :D

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[Overlay]

What elitism, snobbery, and condescension in this thread! Everybody has to shop somewhere, don't they? (And yes, there is a Wal-Mart in McAlester, Oklahoma, at which I shop weekly, and not in a suit and tie.) It wouldn't have to be Wal-Mart. Any store with comparable size, market share, and value would attract a similar cross-section of clientele. Or do you prefer paying higher prices just so your sense of propriety won't be offended? (And with the common public perception of horseplayers, are we really in a position to point fingers?)

[PaceAdvantage]

That middle picture was doctored somehow, correct?

[Steve 'StatMan']

I know what the problem is! Walmart doesn't have a Drive-Thru!

[bigmack]

What elitism, snobbery, and condescension in this thread!
Egads, all of that? Guilty as charged with no remorse.

[Boris]

Hell is surely being stuck at the front door of a Walmart in a rainstorm. The most horrific wet t-shirt contest ever.

[toetoe]

Egads, all of that? Guilty as charged with no remorse.




Here's hoping you reach the first stage, simple morse.

Oh, did you see Mr. Joyner ? Didja, huh ? :jump: .

Oh, and watch your phraseology [silent e], young man. (:Paul Ford tones.)

[bigmack]

Here's hoping you reach the first stage, simple morse.
Not even a morsel of simple morse let alone the aforementioned remorse could tap out enough dots & dashes to morse code myself into axing folk to give some thought to entering a public venue.

Hate to lob a knuckle balled affront to the hallowed name of WallyWorld but to find such an assemblage of folk with little regard to personal hygiene and/or appearance, one might be hard pressed.

Not that I'm judgin' or anythang. :eek: Just cover-up that buttercracker and walk single file so folk can stroll, cart in hand, unencumbered.

[jballscalls]

Now you're just putting us on for the hell of it, right? :lol:

You did a lot of this sort of thing when you first "came back" here to PaceAdvantage...I can't say I was a fan of this kind of thing back then either... :lol: :lol:

now i'm confused, what "kind of thing" did i do? i told a story of my experience at walmart. the reason i put the ethiopian americans was because last time i said the word gang here, some guy went nuts and called me a racist, so i used the politically correct term.

I think me and you are just polar opposites on everything and will never see eye to eye, be it on sarcasm, humor, politics, horses, whatever.

i'm just confused. i mean i know i dont add anything to the board, but i just dont have any clue why that post has you up in arms?

[JustRalph]

What elitism, snobbery, and condescension in this thread! Everybody has to shop somewhere, don't they? (And yes, there is a Wal-Mart in McAlester, Oklahoma, at which I shop weekly, and not in a suit and tie.) It wouldn't have to be Wal-Mart. Any store with comparable size, market share, and value would attract a similar cross-section of clientele. Or do you prefer paying higher prices just so your sense of propriety won't be offended? (And with the common public perception of horseplayers, are we really in a position to point fingers?)

Overlay, you are right.......... I didn't say I don't go anymore....but I pick and choose my spots.......... :lol:

And you are right.....if the price is right...... I am gonna put on nice Pink Sweater and stretch it down past my BVD's and head for the Walmart

[JustRalph]

That middle picture was doctored somehow, correct?

PA....... I have seen this before........my wife tells me about it all the time at her place.......... they have a phrase for it.........but I am embarrassed to put it on the board........the initials are B_ _K B_ _ _S

[Dave Schwartz]

The business model for America in the pre-'80s was service. In the mid-'80s it began moving towards price. Now, service is completely gone, and buying decisions are almost entirely driven by price.

Walmart is the cheapest place in town. I go there whenever I need anything that is relatively cheap; a mouse, a keyboard, a tripod. I even bought my grand-daughter a Compaq laptop there.

I might as well buy price, because higher price does not come with a higher level of service.

Admittedly, the store I frequent is in a more affluent area. We are more likely to see the people in the pictures working there rather than shopping there.

I just think that the people they hire would be on the dole if they weren't working there.

Would I like to go back to the high-prices/high-service of (say) the '70s? You bet I would. But nobody asked me. And they didn't ask you either.

That's because they don't care.

Dave

[wisconsin]

The business model for America in the pre-'80s was service. In the mid-'80s it began moving towards price. Now, service is completely gone, and buying decisions are almost entirely driven by price.

Walmart is the cheapest place in town. I go there whenever I need anything that is relatively cheap; a mouse, a keyboard, a tripod. I even bought my grand-daughter a Compaq laptop there.

I might as well buy price, because higher price does not come with a higher level of service.

Admittedly, the store I frequent is in a more affluent area. We are more likely to see the people in the pictures working there rather than shopping there.

I just think that the people they hire would be on the dole if they weren't working there.

Would I like to go back to the high-prices/high-service of (say) the '70s? You bet I would. But nobody asked me. And they didn't ask you either.

That's because they don't care.

Dave


The WalMarts of the world are exactly what happens when we quit shopping on Main Street, which began to happen years ago. And most of us are guilty of that. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact of life.

[JustRalph]

The WalMarts of the world are exactly what happens when we quit shopping on Main Street, which began to happen years ago. And most of us are guilty of that. It's unfortunate, but it's a fact of life.

The Studies show that the main street merchant was ripping us off pretty badly. Everything from collusion on pricing to manipulating the real estate market around their businesses. I knew a couple of people who were "main st merchants" and when I discussed the issue with them, they agreed. Btw, both of them are out of business after family run ops over 50 yrs old went out of business when huge retailers moved within 3 miles. One a hardware store and another an electronics retailer.

Not for one minute do I approve of the favored scenario we provided to China when it comes to manufacturing and such, but there should have been a middle ground somewhere

[bigmack]

The business model for America in the pre-'80s was service. In the mid-'80s it began moving towards price. Now, service is completely gone, and buying decisions are almost entirely driven by price.
I've ordered a number of things from WM.com, never had a problem. Once you know what you want, find it at the lowest price, know it's backed by a reputable seller and pull the trigger. Wally has enormous buying power.

I'm involved in a potential business transaction with Wally Corporate in AR to the extent that if they make a decision in my favor it will have an effect to my business of 'lotto-like' proportions. They're OK folk to deal with, every single one of them.

Their merchandising I believe is terrible. Their isle space is abysmal. Their store fronts are amateurish. Their doors invite trouble for traffic in/traffic out. Their returns desk is riddled with lines as they offer check cashing, Western Union, wiring loot to foreign lands, leaches, worms & live bait. They try to cover WAY too many bases.

Their prices are low. No question.

Buffet prices at some places are low as well. I find it tough to eat when I see people treating food like it's something they'll never see again and need to store for the winter or 'get their monies worth'.

I'll admit it, I don't like being around slobs. Seems like there are more than ever these days.

I'm a SlobSnob. Shoot me. :rolleyes:

[PaceAdvantage]

now i'm confused, what "kind of thing" did i do? i told a story of my experience at walmart. the reason i put the ethiopian americans was because last time i said the word gang here, some guy went nuts and called me a racist, so i used the politically correct term.

I think me and you are just polar opposites on everything and will never see eye to eye, be it on sarcasm, humor, politics, horses, whatever.

i'm just confused. i mean i know i dont add anything to the board, but i just dont have any clue why that post has you up in arms?Up in arms? Hardly.

Just can't figure out how you knew they were from Ethiopia for starters. Were they carrying a flag? :lol:

I didn't think you were being serious...bottom line...

[JustRalph]

Up in arms? Hardly.

Just can't figure out how you knew they were from Ethiopia for starters. Were they carrying a flag? :lol:

I didn't think you were being serious...bottom line...

They were really skinny ? I have been watching way too much south park

ever seen starvin marvin ?

[Dick Schmidt]

I find this thread rather ironic. I mean, have any of you people ever been to a racetrack? Seen all the sharp dressers who hang out there, or at the average OTB? For the horse racing crowd to be sneering at WalMart customers about how they look and dress is really reminiscent of black pots and kettles. Does Wally world have an isle that specializes in loud sports coats (pre-encrusted with dirt), razors that leave a two day stubble, cheap cigars and spray on BO?

Dick


It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

[alytim]

PA....... I have seen this before........my wife tells me about it all the time at her place.......... they have a phrase for it.........but I am embarrassed to put it on the board........the initials are B_ _K B_ _ _S

Can I buy a vowel?

[BlueShoe]

I am a pragmatist, therefore I often shop at Wal Mart. Far too many have turned Wally into a social or political issue rather than a business decision. Yes, there are things that annoy me. In SoCal the stores are overrun with illegals, and WM has gone after their low end business. Signs and PA announcements in Spanish do not contribute to my composure. As a person for whom the Cold War has never ended, doing business with the damn ChiComs has always grated on me. Many of the stores are messy, with poorly maintained and stocked shelves. On the other hand, Wal Mart is one of Americas great success stories, and is proof of the superiority of the free enterprise system and capitalism. It really tickles me how liberals criticize Wal Mart, since leftists cannot tolerate business success or a company that is profitable, it just confirms that Wally surely has done something right. I look at it this way, the money I save by shopping Wal Mart gives me more cash to take to the track.:ThmbUp:

[prospector]

my social sec check dictates that i buy the bulk of my groceries there each week..mine is fairly new and so far pretty weirdo free..
you should see some of the people that go to the casinos...a bar of soap would do wonders for them..

[cj's dad]

BTW- I love the place - cheap prices and free laughs.








Wal-Mart

1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart Every hour
of every day.

2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!

3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year.

4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined.

5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English.

6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.

7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years.

8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.

9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.

10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.

11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)

12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a
Wal-Mart.

[JustRalph]

I find this thread rather ironic. I mean, have any of you people ever been to a racetrack?

The Ground Floor at Hollywood park is one place I wandered into that kind of gave me the Willies............ :lol:

[toetoe]

so far pretty weirdo free..





I'm trying to get my mirror to the stage mentioned above. Cause for hope ... I ... guess.

[toetoe]

leaches, worms & live bait. They try to cover WAY too many bases.





Nightcrawlers, stampbooks and monthly bus passes.

Spandex-clad hausfraus with tone-challenged asses.

Walls splashed with Goldwater's image (*) (mon Dieu !).

Willkommen, friends, to my SprawlMart milieu.






Tuneups and grease jobs and up-on-the-rack lubes.

Large Marge and Big Bertha showcasing back boobs.

Barefoot contessas with tattoos galore.

Getcher funk on at SprawlMart [wait, there's more] ...





When I get the ...

Vacant cow look ...

From the counter girl,

I simply repair to McD's restaurant ( :liar: ),

And pray I won't have ... to hurl.





Broads with bare midriffs, and piercings and thingies; and

Faces that couldn't launch even two dinghies.

These are a few of SprawlMart's clientele.

Welcome, my friends, to my version of hell ...





* ... It's really Sam Walton's image, but to me, at first glance, it was Barry Goldwater.

[chickenhead]

I like going to Walmart once every 6 months just to reconnect with my peeps.

Rather than seeing myself as I usually do, a marginally successful member of the middle class, I imagine myself the most successful white trash inbred of all-time. The prodigal son, returned home for a quick visit and to pick up a half dozen Campbells Chunky Soups.

But mainly for the Campbells Chunky Soups. What a deal....

[Overlay]

Nightcrawlers, stampbooks and monthly bus passes....Welcome, my friends, to my version of hell ...

I swear I can hear Julie Andrews singing!

[toetoe]

white trash inbred



'Bjekshun, Yer Onner. Goes ta r'dundancy.

[bigmack]

Walls splashed with Goldwater's image (*) (mon Dieu !).

Willkommen, friends, to my SprawlMart milieu[/SIZE].[/I]
Bravo, Bravo. :ThmbUp:

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[toetoe]

I swear I can hear Julie Andrews singing!


I was omiss in not crediting the great Roger Sandham Merstein, for the piece taken from the smash musical, A Mound of Sushi, er some darn thing ... :confused: .

[toetoe]

Bravo, Bravo. :ThmbUp:

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:blush: .

[WinterTriangle]

Many tiny agricultural towns in America ...... like mine. Walmart is the only grocery store. We do have one other small one, prices are way way way higher.

That's it. Two.

Until last year, I could only buy feed for birds, deer, dogs and cats at the feed store, or walmart. Again, feed store way way more expensive.

Now we have an Atwoods.

In a small town, Walmart is also the anchor of many things. Almost every non-profit of any sort, from the school and church groups, to the animal rescues, to the Salvation Army, hold their fund raising, adoption, carwashes, etc. events there.

After the tornado wiped out the town, and Walmart was left standing, many realized that we'd have been up the creek if they had fallen down.

I'm not pro-walmart, but it is what it is.


I used to dislike them more than I do now. I got tired of the "mom and pop" stores not having things, not keeping decent hours, charging an arm and a leg for stuff, and also, when I went in, they'd "point me" to an aisle instead of actually helping me. I would say "gee, if I wanted you to point, I'd just go to walmart and find it myself........and pay about half!" (sorry, but I TRIED to shop the mom and pop stores before Walmart came in. They left a lot to be desired, esp. in terms of service.)

I just went to one that does tires and oil changes. they charged me MORE than the toyota dealership 80 miles away!!! I asked why, and they said that since i got synthetic oil, Toyota can probably get a better deal than them.
They also didn't top off all my fluids, like Toyota does. Walmart will do an oil change for WAY cheaper than my mom and pop store. So---tell me again why I should go to the mom and pop store? It's gonna be toyota where they do things "right", or Walmart, where they do things "cheap" for me!

In a small town, Walmart is also often one of the largest employers.

Without Walmart here, it's 80 miles to the nearest town with "more". :eek:

[Robert Goren]

I use to shop at Walmart a lot. I don't much anymore. I just tired of driving around the parking lot looking for a spot.

[WinterTriangle]

And, by the way, Dave, don't feel sorry for some who work at Walmart "who would be on the dole" otherwise.

Know quite a few lowly associates who retired from there. They took advantage of the Walmart Stock Purchase Plan with a company match-----for decades. They made out REAL WELL.

Probably a whole lot better than a lot of white collar folks.

they ain't so dumb. :)

[rastajenk]

I swear I can hear Julie Andrews singing!I was kinda hearin' Frank Zappa myself; or maybe Alice Cooper.

[Grits]

So---tell me again why I should go to the mom and pop store?

No reason, none whatsoever, WT. Unlike you, I don't have any desire to do all my shopping at the largest retailer in the world, where 99% of what they sell is made in third world conditions in China, though formerly made by plants filled with citizens of my own country who now are jobless and "on the dole." It kinda spread . . . way, way beyond their doors . . . ya know, the domino effect monopolies can cause. Walmart wants to sell our product cheaper, so let's close our U.S. plants and manufacture, solely, for them. We can get this done in any third world country where we can hire folks that'll only work for cents a day.

Sorry, I'm not one to tout how great it is to have the opportunity to shop the local world's largest retailer--the one that's buried any and every business, family owned, smaller chain, or otherwise--within a 25 to 50 mile radius of every one of their stores that exists or has been built in the last decade.

It doesn't matter that their grocery offerings are pathetic, in that one's given little choice, maybe one or two beyond the (house) "value plus" brand on everything from frozen foods, canned goods, to baked goods, to paper products. For the knowledge espoused in another thread regarding the detriment of what we ingest, forgive me if I take a pass--don't care for, or eat, seafood from China, Indonesia, or Vietnam. Don't care for, or eat, beef that could pass for shoe leather or pork that couldn't be tenderized if you beat it to a pulp. All, of course, when I have an alternative.

Remember the Christmas commercial where the bells are ringing as the lights on each checkout come on--with clerks smiling to wait on you? Maybe all the other Walmarts offer far superior service to the one near me where there are at least 20 checkout lines or more--though, I don't care what hour you're there you're gonna see no more than three of them open--with a minimum of 15 to 20 people deep--waiting to check out. Now that's what I call--good service. And if you ask an "associate" to direct you, the attitude you get isn't exactly what I'd term as stellar either.

Everybody in North American wants a Walmart a few blocks away so they can shop for lower prices, sure one can understand needing those. But a monopoly, no. And this is what Walmart has become.

Those that took payouts years ago--good for them. They were wise to do so. This was before Walmart became consumed with greed, before they lost all integrity.

One of their "lowly associates" works for me--her second job. Walmart cut her hours to less than 25 hours from 40--it had to do with "the cutting of benefits" thing for associates.

There are plenty of stores I can frequent and buy from, other than a Walmart. Tractor Supply--they're one of my favorites, but that's for dogfood, bird seed, etc, etc. Lowe's is another. There I can buy all kinds of household stuff, flowers, tools, garden things, etc. So is Target. They've got lots of stuff, too. And the folks I ask for help, they're always pleasant.

As far as Toyota--buying wiper blades at your local Walmart is probably doubtful. I drove to my local "mom and pop" garage a few days ago . . . . where I was told, "we can't replace those for you, we don't have them. You'll have to go back to your Toyota dealership, they don't allow others to sell them.":faint:

(Forgot. Add JMHO. There's two sides to every coin.)

[Tom]

Welcome to the global economy. Everyone in it will have to sink to the lowest level - just where Uncle Sugar wants us all - hungry and dependent.

[GaryG]

Walmart has killed more small business than the current administration. In my small town there is nothing that I can't buy somewhere else. I don't mind paying more to patronize locally owned businesses. I know nearly all of them anyway and it is an opportunity to see what is new around town. Bird seed and animal feed can be had at the Feed & Seed or Tractor Supply. It is certainly your right to patronize whomever you want. Just remember who they are. I wouldn't go so far as to call them pure evil but.....yes I would.

[Pell Mell]

I believe the Walmart stores are a good reflection of the people in the area.

When I lived in NJ I hated the Walmarts in the central part of the state. Dirty, rude, nobody speaks english, at least not the kind I understand, etc. And this applies to the customers and employees alike.

Then there was the one near the shore. Not a bad store but there were so many seniors it took hours to get down a couple aisles.

Where I live now the store is great. EVERYBODY is very friendly and helpful, employees and customers alike. The store is very clean as are the restrooms AND everybody speaks english and I don't have to say "What, what" all day.

There are some really poor people who come down out of the mountains about once a month but they are as friendly as can be.

I guess the area is what makes stores what they are for the most part.

[NJ Stinks]

Grits, that was one great post. :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

I wouldn't be caught dead in Wal-mart if they were giving the sh_t away.

No matter how much Pell Mell loves to trash his former state, the fact is living in NJ I don't need to shop at Wal-mart. There are a ton of other options.

And I'm certainly not going there to save a few dollars.

Like I like to say - one has to be able to sleep at night.

[dav4463]

I like Walmart. I can wear my speedo and wife-beater T-shirt and fit right in!

[JustRalph]

I guess the area is what makes stores what they are for the most part.

This says it all. I have lived all over the country and Walmart stores are a direct reflection of the community in which they reside.

[bigmack]

This says it all. I have lived all over the country and Walmart stores are a direct reflection of the community in which they reside.
Where they've opened stores has been very well thought out. Identifying demographics for a retailer is of utmost importance. For WallyWorld it's essential.

Early on, rural areas were easy pickin's. Throw-up a store and watch 'em come. "Them prices sure is low!" people exclaimed. "Gas-up the truck & pile in the kids, we's headin' for WallyWorld"

As they've made inroads in urbane areas you done still got yer devout Target' demographic and now your semi-urban Wally demo. Wally demographic swarms. Wally demo will go to no length to get roll-on anti-P for .29. Costco costs money to be a memba.

Urban Wally ain't much different than rural Wally.

[Robert Goren]

I will say what a lot of people won't say. On a lot of trips to Walmart the only time you hear English spoken is at the check out stand.

[johnhannibalsmith]

My only complaints with WalMart:

1) The greeter people at the entrances. They're all smiles on the way in when I'm aggravated from having to walk in the damn place. Then, when I'm finally released from the asylum and get a wave of giddiness from the relief of exiting after my torutous transaction - now these friendly "greeters" want to glare at me and decide whether or not to shake me down for a receipt, certain I just hijacked the box of Pop-tarts and case of Mt. Dew that I'm carrying in plain sight.

2) The rest of the entrance. Never mind the happy-go-lucky-elderly-receipt-smile-task force of "greeters", you need nine uniformed law officers to deal with the real crime in progress at these junctions of euphoria - the fact that nobody can figure out which frackin' side to go in and out of. If it says "EXIT" on the left side and you are trying to get in to the place, that's your best chance of getting in, head left in through the out door. If nothing else, the traffic you encounter will largely be polite, understanding people that realize you are kinfolk and have been well-indoctrinated into the "way".

3) Sub-departments, like, electronics. Actually, this gripe extends to a few of Wally's first and second cousins in this game. They have a seperate electronics department all partitioned away from the rest of the riff-raff with counter space and a cash register that is generally unattended to as the clerk spends most of her day unlocking the X-Box cases for the same kid over and over and over and over and over. So, you go in there - find the ink cartridge for the printer or whatever and then stand at that "electronics department counter" for half the afternoon while this clerk is looking through the .99 cent DVD bin for Dude, Where's My Car?, explaining the difference between telephone line and ethernet cable to Grammy Moses, searching the stock room for the one remaining copy of David Archuleta's breakout CD that the computer swears is IN STOCK... ... so finally she gets over to the counter to ring up your ink cartridge and laughs at you for not walking straight through the security apparatus guarding the electronics department and heading directly to the main store checkout.

4 - 10) Sinks without knobs or handles in the bathroom. Are you kidding me? All these disgusting people all jammed into this joint and god forbid you try to wash your hands after taking a leak, but before you head over for a McDeal at the WalDonald's - these places insist on installing those sink heads with some sort of sensor that turns it on and off. What actually happens is I stand there like some kind of Pat Morita protege wax-on, wax-off, full-blown robotdance style maneuvers trying to magically activate the sink. I finally get extremely pissed off and start cussing at everyone for minutes about it, but at least I try and occasionally it works. I suspect most people are either way, way, sharper at making these sinks work or they don't even make the effort after the first try... or perhaps, before the first try.

[JustRalph]

This sub department thing is a staffing issue that sometimes pisses me off. You rarely find the guy who is working in the department, anywhere near the department. Especially later evening

I went in a Wallyworld just 3 days ago and was pleasantly surprised when the guy working in Sporting Goods actually approached me and was able to rattle off instantly the 3 different types of 9mm ammo he sold and the prices.

100 rounds later I was out the door in a matter of minutes