View Full Version : New name for Philadelphia Park?
duncan04
08-31-2010, 04:39 PM
Went to equibase to see the results for Philadelphia Park. Couldn't find it at first. Seems they now go by Parx Racing At Philadelphia Park. When did that happen? :confused:
Gapfire
08-31-2010, 04:54 PM
They started racing yesterday with this name.
Just another pain in the ass for programmers.
Turkoman
08-31-2010, 05:18 PM
Went to equibase to see the results for Philadelphia Park. Couldn't find it at first. Seems they now go by Parx Racing At Philadelphia Park. When did that happen? :confused:
The way I see it, it simply causes more confusion. Just like Hollywood Casino at Charles Town. Maybe the next one will be Rubber Track Racing at Del Mar.......hehe
Turkoman
Stillriledup
08-31-2010, 05:22 PM
I like Keystone. :eek:
Still refer to them as Keystone and Waterford.
PurplePower
08-31-2010, 05:47 PM
Went to equibase to see the results for Philadelphia Park. Couldn't find it at first. Seems they now go by Parx Racing At Philadelphia Park. When did that happen? :confused:I noticed the sign at the front entrance on Street Road said "PARX" when I was there for Groom Elite 101 on July 14. To the right of the old grandstand was the big entrance to the new casino building. On the facade of three large projections above the entrance were three of the largest digital video screens I have seen. They were showing ads, etc. for the casino and looked somewhat like three HD drive in movie screens. I saw an "announcement" on their overnight (as well as on local TV) something like "Philadelphia Park is now 'Parx Racing' to more completely describe the 'experience' ". I suppose the Pennsylvania Racing Commission had to give them permission for the name change and Equibase then would make the switch when the "official" regulatory change took place.
lamboguy
08-31-2010, 06:01 PM
what a genius move! it would have been to easy to lower the takeout on surperfectas, pick 3s and pick 4s and trifectas to increase their handle. that would have beeen to easy to do, instead they hired a marketing team to figure out what would be a good new name for the joint.
i don't give a flying ----------whatever name they came up with, i want lower takeout instead of making tvg rich. these idiots only do about $50k a day on track, so what do they need that high takeout for? lower the chop and get more people through the doors.
i am now sounding like everyone else here accusing takeout for racing's problems. i just mentioned it because its elementary and they don't need tohire an efficiency team to figure it out.
castaway01
08-31-2010, 07:06 PM
I noticed the sign at the front entrance on Street Road said "PARX" when I was there for Groom Elite 101 on July 14. To the right of the old grandstand was the big entrance to the new casino building. On the facade of three large projections above the entrance were three of the largest digital video screens I have seen. They were showing ads, etc. for the casino and looked somewhat like three HD drive in movie screens. I saw an "announcement" on their overnight (as well as on local TV) something like "Philadelphia Park is now 'Parx Racing' to more completely describe the 'experience' ". I suppose the Pennsylvania Racing Commission had to give them permission for the name change and Equibase then would make the switch when the "official" regulatory change took place.
Yes, the casino has been "Parx" since it opened, and I guess they want to be known by the casino name and not the old racetrack name. Lately the casino has been in the news because several parents have left their kids in the car and went into the casino for hours to gamble, so pretty soon "Parx" might have a bad image and they'll switch back to Philadelphia Park. :rolleyes:
For those of you who don't know, the track isn't actually in Philadelphia anyway.
Beachbabe
08-31-2010, 07:29 PM
They've got over 10 mil in underpaid purses. The casino's doing better than expected (once the got the table games approved & in operation).So look for even bigger purses for claimers starting soon.
I think "Owners Day" is sept 18 and purses for 5k claimers will be 50k.
metroman
08-31-2010, 07:40 PM
anyone remember LIBERTY Bell
thespaah
08-31-2010, 07:51 PM
anyone remember LIBERTY BellYes.....Closed over 20 years ago...Branywine in nearby Northern DE closed as well. The latter a very nice place. Shame.
BTW....No one is going to call this place PARX....The name is and always will be Philadelphia Park.. Although I was partial to Keystone.
In the 70s I lived the Bronx and there was no harness racing on Sundays in the Metropolitan New York area. So about 1030AM we would drive to Monticello and about 4PM we would leave Monti to arrive at Liberty Bell about 7PM to get home about 1AM. I was lot younger in those days :D .
What I remember about Brandywine was the venetian type blinds they had cause the sun was so bright you could not see the first 2 races. A
Anybody else remember that?
jelly
08-31-2010, 08:58 PM
I like this name.
Philadelphia "hightakeout" Park.
The_Knight_Sky
08-31-2010, 09:09 PM
what a genius move!
Indeed.
Parx http://i51.tinypic.com/2n6fdx2.jpg ?
A: not true horseplayers
lamboguy
09-01-2010, 08:31 AM
Indeed.
Parx http://i51.tinypic.com/2n6fdx2.jpg ?
A: not true horseplayers
if i owned this stupid track the very first thing i would do is lower the takeout on pick 3 and pick 4. to where the track made a 1% profit after paying the state. if that didn't do the job i would start lowering it on superfecta's and trifecta's as well until the move produced the desired result then raise them up to a normal level like 18%. the reason why philly won't do it is because they own their own adw and don't want to rock the boat with lowering thier takeout that they don't make any money on anyway. pennsylvania racing is on the move up and now its time to step up to the plate and break away. it would be good for the whole industry as well.
onefast99
09-01-2010, 09:03 AM
They've got over 10 mil in underpaid purses. The casino's doing better than expected (once the got the table games approved & in operation).So look for even bigger purses for claimers starting soon.
I think "Owners Day" is sept 18 and purses for 5k claimers will be 50k.
The table games monies do not go towards the purses.
onefast99
09-01-2010, 09:06 AM
Indeed.
Parx http://i51.tinypic.com/2n6fdx2.jpg ?
A: not true horseplayers
Check out the numbers on those getting into breeding Pa breds, it will surprise you.
In the 70s I lived the Bronx and there was no harness racing on Sundays in the Metropolitan New York area. So about 1030AM we would drive to Monticello and about 4PM we would leave Monti to arrive at Liberty Bell about 7PM to get home about 1AM. I was lot younger in those days :D .
What I remember about Brandywine was the venetian type blinds they had cause the sun was so bright you could not see the first 2 races. A
Anybody else remember that?
I did many Philly Park/Brandywine double headers. I loved Brandywine. Was 5/8ths if I remember right.
I did the circuit a few times -
Pocono
Penn Nation
Pimlico
Keystone
Liberty Bell
I'd fall asleep driving, now!
onefast99
09-01-2010, 11:54 AM
I went yesterday, the new horsemans area on the first floor came out ok. The track looked good, maybe a little more water is needed during the race-card. It seemed to be of equal footing from the rail all the way out. Prior to the track closure the rail was dead.
macguy
09-01-2010, 11:54 AM
Is the DRF going to change the abbreviation in the form?
Beachbabe
09-01-2010, 07:27 PM
The table games monies do not go towards the purses.
If you say so.
Anyway the cheapest mdn claimers are running for a 22k purse.
5k claimers for 25k
MSW's for 45k
Did the horses' records transfer to the new name, of do they all show 0-0 0 0 in the starts box for Prax Trax?
Robert Goren
09-02-2010, 03:48 PM
The name was changed to protect the innocent horse owner. Now he doesn't have to admit his horses are running at Philly Park.
onefast99
09-02-2010, 06:34 PM
If you say so.
Anyway the cheapest mdn claimers are running for a 22k purse.
5k claimers for 25k
MSW's for 45k
The purses are excellent at Parx. There will be several incremental increases in the next few months.
onefast99
09-02-2010, 06:39 PM
Did the horses' records transfer to the new name, of do they all show 0-0 0 0 in the starts box for Prax Trax?
That is a good question, did they transfer horse records from Keystone to PP when that name change occurred in 1984?
thespaah
09-02-2010, 07:48 PM
I did many Philly Park/Brandywine double headers. I loved Brandywine. Was 5/8ths if I remember right.correct..In fact PA and DE, save Harrington was the king of 5/8th's milers.
I used to go to the Battle of Brandywine. Did it 4 years straight. Made the 135 mile drive no problem.
thespaah
09-02-2010, 07:50 PM
The table games monies do not go towards the purses.if that's true....WTF's the difference. Gambling money is gambling money...Sheesh.
thespaah
09-02-2010, 07:52 PM
The purses are excellent at Parx. There will be several incremental increases in the next few months.NJ and MD T-Bred racing is gonna get crushed.
correct..In fact PA and DE, save Harrington was the king of 5/8th's milers.
I used to go to the Battle of Brandywine. Did it 4 years straight. Made the 135 mile drive no problem.
I don't know about that, Rosecroft was pretty good and I think Freestate was 5/8ths too. I spent many a summer night there.
thespaah
09-02-2010, 08:03 PM
I don't know about that, Rosecroft was pretty good and I think Freestate was 5/8ths too. I spent many a summer night there.my point was every track in PA dn DE except Harrington was/is 5/8ths.
alhattab
09-02-2010, 10:57 PM
if that's true....WTF's the difference. Gambling money is gambling money...Sheesh.
The difference is that somebody woke up. The legislation allowing table games was passed after the slots legislation and it was determined no table games money to the horsemen.
On the harness front, I was weaned on the stuff during my formative years at The Meadowlands circa 1985 (Nihilator's year). I recall the race caller would sort of sing "There they go" (the standard call for the 5/8ths start on the backside). I thought it was Gene Hart (voice of the Flyers), but check out this video which claims it was Roy Shutt (sp?). Freestate was 5/8ths. And Spaah you're right all the PA tracks were/are 5/8th- Pocono, The Meadows, Liberty Bell and now Chester. All the NY tracks were 1/2 save for Vernon which at 7/8ths seemed like the fairest config for harness racing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vx0-Mevwg
onefast99
09-03-2010, 10:45 AM
The difference is that somebody woke up. The legislation allowing table games was passed after the slots legislation and it was determined no table games money to the horsemen.
On the harness front, I was weaned on the stuff during my formative years at The Meadowlands circa 1985 (Nihilator's year). I recall the race caller would sort of sing "There they go" (the standard call for the 5/8ths start on the backside). I thought it was Gene Hart (voice of the Flyers), but check out this video which claims it was Roy Shutt (sp?). Freestate was 5/8ths. And Spaah you're right all the PA tracks were/are 5/8th- Pocono, The Meadows, Liberty Bell and now Chester. All the NY tracks were 1/2 save for Vernon which at 7/8ths seemed like the fairest config for harness racing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vx0-Mevwg
You can't forget Niatross and the race with Justin Passing and Trenton Time where Niatross finished 4th!
Niatross' only two strange losses came in back-to-back starts. The first came at Saratoga, when the pacer mysteriously made a break in the stretch and flipped over the low hub-rail, only to emerge unscathed. In his next start, the elimination for the Meadowland's Pace, he made a break and barely came back to make it into the final, which he subsequently won.
onefast99
09-03-2010, 10:47 AM
NJ and MD T-Bred racing is gonna get crushed.
In October MP will have to offer some pretty decent purse monies to keep the horseman there. Parx will clean up from October thru May.
Al Hattab
Wasn't Vernon listed on the program at 3/4 not 7/8 in those days?
The had a chute and the first quarter mile was a straightaway.
The stretch was extremely short and any horse shipping into the Meadowlands who closed in the stretch at Vernon was an automatic play for me.
Can you believe I am not at Monmouth today due to Hurricane Earl.
Where is it? It's certainly taking it's time getting to the Jersey Shore.
pandy
09-03-2010, 03:17 PM
I can't find Philly Park on RTN, does anyone know what channel it is?
thespaah
09-03-2010, 04:59 PM
The difference is that somebody woke up. The legislation allowing table games was passed after the slots legislation and it was determined no table games money to the horsemen.
On the harness front, I was weaned on the stuff during my formative years at The Meadowlands circa 1985 (Nihilator's year). I recall the race caller would sort of sing "There they go" (the standard call for the 5/8ths start on the backside). I thought it was Gene Hart (voice of the Flyers), but check out this video which claims it was Roy Shutt (sp?). Freestate was 5/8ths. And Spaah you're right all the PA tracks were/are 5/8th- Pocono, The Meadows, Liberty Bell and now Chester. All the NY tracks were 1/2 save for Vernon which at 7/8ths seemed like the fairest config for harness racing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vx0-Mevwg
The first announcer at The Meadowlands was a guy by the name of Ed Gorman. He had a sing-song manner in which he would start each race.
Gorman called the races at The Big M for two or three years. It was my understanding he was a relative of then NJ Governor Thomas Kean. When I heard that Gorman was more or less a political hire, I dismissed it. However it was ironic that after Kean left Trenton, Gorman was no longer the announcer at Meadowlands. The announcer hired to replace Gorman was Tom Durkin.
Gene Hart did indeed call the races at Brandywine as well as Philly Park.
Oh, Vernon Downs original config was 3/4s mile before it was converted to 7/8ths.....In fact both Windsor and Mohawk in Ontario were originally 5/8ths but were converted to 7/8ths....
thespaah
09-03-2010, 05:01 PM
In October MP will have to offer some pretty decent purse monies to keep the horseman there. Parx will clean up from October thru May.Over the long haul, these two states T-Bred industries will suffer. With PA's inflated purses, MD and NJ will be relegated to lower rung status.
thespaah
09-03-2010, 05:03 PM
You can't forget Niatross and the race with Justin Passing and Trenton Time where Niatross finished 4th!
Niatross' only two strange losses came in back-to-back starts. The first came at Saratoga, when the pacer mysteriously made a break in the stretch and flipped over the low hub-rail, only to emerge unscathed. In his next start, the elimination for the Meadowland's Pace, he made a break and barely came back to make it into the final, which he subsequently won.
I was at BOTH of those....
Zman179
09-03-2010, 06:05 PM
The first announcer at The Meadowlands was a guy by the name of Ed Gorman. He had a sing-song manner in which he would start each race.
Gorman called the races at The Big M for two or three years. It was my understanding he was a relative of then NJ Governor Thomas Kean. When I heard that Gorman was more or less a political hire, I dismissed it. However it was ironic that after Kean left Trenton, Gorman was no longer the announcer at Meadowlands. The announcer hired to replace Gorman was Tom Durkin.
Gene Hart did indeed call the races at Brandywine as well as Philly Park.
Oh, Vernon Downs original config was 3/4s mile before it was converted to 7/8ths.....In fact both Windsor and Mohawk in Ontario were originally 5/8ths but were converted to 7/8ths....
Just two slight corrections. The NJ Governor was Brendan Byrne; Kean replaced Byrne and served from 1982 to 1990...and Windsor is still a 5/8ths.
alhattab
09-03-2010, 07:06 PM
Al Hattab
Wasn't Vernon listed on the program at 3/4 not 7/8 in those days?
The had a chute and the first quarter mile was a straightaway.
The stretch was extremely short and any horse shipping into the Meadowlands who closed in the stretch at Vernon was an automatic play for me.
Can you believe I am not at Monmouth today due to Hurricane Earl.
Where is it? It's certainly taking it's time getting to the Jersey Shore.
yes you are correct. I think I was confusing w/Mohawk which someone noted is 7/8ths.
thespaah
09-03-2010, 07:53 PM
Just two slight corrections. The NJ Governor was Brendan Byrne; Kean replaced Byrne and served from 1982 to 1990...and Windsor is still a 5/8ths.Got my governor time frames wrong..and I am from NJ...:bang:
I was thinking of Woodbine Harness not Windsor....Thx..
affirmedny
09-03-2010, 11:54 PM
The first announcer at The Meadowlands was a guy by the name of Ed Gorman. He had a sing-song manner in which he would start each race.
Gorman called the races at The Big M for two or three years. It was my understanding he was a relative of then NJ Governor Thomas Kean. When I heard that Gorman was more or less a political hire, I dismissed it. However it was ironic that after Kean left Trenton, Gorman was no longer the announcer at Meadowlands. The announcer hired to replace Gorman was Tom Durkin.
Gene Hart did indeed call the races at Brandywine as well as Philly Park.
Oh, Vernon Downs original config was 3/4s mile before it was converted to 7/8ths.....In fact both Windsor and Mohawk in Ontario were originally 5/8ths but were converted to 7/8ths....
Gorman was the announcer @ freehold (and liberty bell) before Byrne or Kean were governor. They just brought him over from freehold when the Big M opened.
Hajck Hillstrom
09-04-2010, 01:25 AM
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takeout
09-04-2010, 02:03 AM
A post I saw on another board:
Subject: Track Names Changes
All these race track name changes is a training method to drop the initial name and it will become forgotten. So adding the casino name is first step in removing the horse racing from the future.
In dog training I would always add the new command word before the old command word or even when changing the call name of a dog. Once you see the dog responds to the first word you can gradually drop the second word or name. The animal has now been trained to respond to new command. So all of us horse race fans and public will start responding to casino names and eventually forget about horse racing. Sort of a low level brain washing method.
Zman179
09-04-2010, 08:01 AM
I was thinking of Woodbine Harness not Windsor....Thx..
Not trying to play dogpile on the rabbit here, :) but you're actually thinking about Greenwood. Gwd went from 5/8ths to 7/8ths and the Woodbine 7/8ths standardbred track was built in order to close Greenwood.
alhattab
09-04-2010, 08:16 AM
Gorman was the announcer @ freehold (and liberty bell) before Byrne or Kean were governor. They just brought him over from freehold when the Big M opened.
Since we're talking about old harness announcers- anyone catch races from Indiana Downs?
Horseplayersbet.com
09-04-2010, 08:24 AM
In other news, Philly Steaks are now to be called Parx Steaks.
thespaah
09-04-2010, 09:37 AM
Gorman was the announcer @ freehold (and liberty bell) before Byrne or Kean were governor. They just brought him over from freehold when the Big M opened.I was always skeptical of the political connection. Just intrigued by the irony of Gorman's contract end just as Byrne left office.
Oh well.
Thx for the clarification.
thespaah
09-04-2010, 09:39 AM
In other news, Philly Steaks are now to be called Parx Steaks.how about "Parx Sausages".....Of course this reference may not click with someone from outside the NY Metro area. There was a brand of sausage named "Parks"...Had a very annoying commercial....
thespaah
09-04-2010, 09:43 AM
Not trying to play dogpile on the rabbit here, :) but you're actually thinking about Greenwood. Gwd went from 5/8ths to 7/8ths and the Woodbine 7/8ths standardbred track was built in order to close Greenwood.AHh....a Bugs Bunny reference? LOL....
I remember Greewood .I'd have to dig out one of my old Meadowlands programs and check the abbreviations/ speed ratings listed inside. You could be correct tho.
thespaah
09-04-2010, 09:46 AM
A post I saw on another board:
Subject: Track Names Changes
All these race track name changes is a training method to drop the initial name and it will become forgotten. So adding the casino name is first step in removing the horse racing from the future.
In dog training I would always add the new command word before the old command word or even when changing the call name of a dog. Once you see the dog responds to the first word you can gradually drop the second word or name. The animal has now been trained to respond to new command. So all of us horse race fans and public will start responding to casino names and eventually forget about horse racing. Sort of a low level brain washing method.
Hmm. I will always call Penn National and Charles Town as just those.
DOwn here Lowe's paid $10 mil to a racetrack owner. That renamed Charlotte Motor Speedway to Lowes Motor Speedway. Nobody except the media called it that. The contract ended. Guess what...It's back to Charlotte Motor Speedway.....
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