SARATOGA P-4's & MORE FOR MONDAY

[canleakid]

MORNING ALL, NICE P-6 CARRYOVER TODAY ;) WISH EVERYONE GOOD LUCK.
POST YOUR PICKS HERE!!!!

[porkchop]

RACE 1 WP 8

RACE 3 WP 8

RACE 4 WP 4

RACE 5 PK 6 > 10 / 2 / 2 3 6 / 1 2 8 / 1 3 6 / 2 3 5

RACE 6 WP 2

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

[theguarantee]

Seems like a tough card, capped the first 2 races and I just have no clue.

[canleakid]

EARLY BUDGET QUICK P-4
3-4 // 6-1 // 3-6-4 // 9 =$12.00

LATE P-4

6-2 // 10-8-2 // 1-2 // 11-3-5-8 =$48.00

IF I COULD BET THE P-6 MY TICKET WOULD BE:

9 // 7-4-2 // 6-2 // 10-8 // 1-2 // 11-3-5 =$144.00

GOOD LUCK ALL

[positive4th]

Race 1 - -

2 units on :8: to WIN

1 unit on :5: to WIN

..........possibly a chicken-scratch early P4 to come in a few minutes

[positive4th]

Early Pick 4:

Main Ticket ($2)

ALL
:7:
:3: :6:
:9:

$20

Back-up #1 ($1)

ALL
:3: :4: :5: :6:
:3: :6:
:9:

$40

Back-up #2 ($1)

ALL
:7:
:4: :5: :7: :8: :1:
:9:

$25

Back-up #3 ($1)

ALL
:7:
:3: :6:
:1: :2: :4: :5: :6: :8:

$60

Total Invested = $145

BOL

[positive4th]

Race 1 - -

2 units on :8: to WIN

1 unit on :5: to WIN

..........possibly a chicken-scratch early P4 to come in a few minutes

Little confused there.........the :3: was no doubt a good horse (esp. after :1a: was scratched), but the :8: ran a surprisingly uninspired race, and lit my first bets of the day on fire :)

On to the Pick 4..............

[Phantombridgejumpe]

I was going to play against the fave that scratched in the 5th, but that idea went by the boards.

Just a for fun pick 6 ticket with no singles. For $2 it is $648

5th: 4/9
6th: 2/7
7th: 3/6/9
8th: 2/8/10
9th: 3/6
10th: 3/8/9

Good Luck

[positive4th]

I was going to play against the fave that scratched in the 5th, but that idea went by the boards.

Just a for fun pick 6 ticket with no singles. For $2 it is $648

5th: 4/9
6th: 2/7
7th: 3/6/9
8th: 2/8/10
9th: 3/6
10th: 3/8/9

Good Luck

bol

[Beachbabe]

Early pick 4:

:4: :6:
:4: :6:
:3: :6:
:4:

Money's tight- bettin' light.

[positive4th]

Early Pick 4:

Main Ticket ($2)

ALL
:7:
:3: :6:
:9:

$20

Back-up #1 ($1)

ALL
:3: :4: :5: :6:
:3: :6:
:9:

$40

Back-up #2 ($1)

ALL
:7:
:4: :5: :7: :8: :1:
:9:

$25

Back-up #3 ($1)

ALL
:7:
:3: :6:
:1: :2: :4: :5: :6: :8:

$60

Total Invested = $145

BOL

I think that was a good result.........anything other than the :6: in Leg 1 seems like buying the race was "worth it". Still got 3 legs to survive, though............ :)

[positive4th]

Early pick 4:

:4: :6:
:4: :6:
:3: :6:
:4:

Money's tight- bettin' light.

Sorry, beachbabe...........I bought R2 and cheered like hell against your horses :eek:

[canleakid]

2nd race - Saratoga - August 30, 2010

Pgm Horse Win Place Show
5 Hasten to Be King 7.50 4.30 2.70
6 Grand Terror 3.20 2.10
4 Scotchirish 2.30


$2 Daily Double 3-5 58.00
$2 Exacta 5-6 16.80
$2 Quinella 5-6 9.40

:bang: :bang:

[positive4th]

R3 - -

1 Unit to Win on my single, the :7:

[positive4th]

R3 - -

1 Unit to Win on my single, the :7:

Not good at all...........lost the single, just have 1 back-up ticket alive, AND the winner was a miserable 6/5 favorite firster..............

[positive4th]

LATE PICK 4 - - -

MAIN Ticket ($3)

:3: :6:
ALL
:3:
:5: :8: :9:

$180

Back-up #1 ($2)

:3: :6:
ALL
:3:
:1: :2: :3: :6: :11:

$200

Back-up #2 ($1)

:3: :6:
ALL
:1: :2: :4: :5: :6:
:5: :8: :9:

$200

Total Invested = $580....that sure seems steep :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[positive4th]

Early Pick 4:

Main Ticket ($2)

ALL
:7:
:3: :6:
:9:

$20

Back-up #1 ($1)

ALL
:3: :4: :5: :6:
:3: :6:
:9:

$40

Back-up #2 ($1)

ALL
:7:
:4: :5: :7: :8: :1:
:9:

$25

Back-up #3 ($1)

ALL
:7:
:3: :6:
:1: :2: :4: :5: :6: :8:

$60

Total Invested = $145

BOL

Oh perfect...........I'm singled to a $1 payout of $133 and some change to show a $12 loss.............which the Win bet on :6: Harmonizer in R4 will cover, but still...............this is not exactly inspiring :rolleyes:

[positive4th]

Race 5 - - -

This was a real mis-managed P4 on my part, so rather than hedge, I'm going to go for

2 Units to WIN on :9: to cover the "loss" in the P4, OR to increase the bleeding should he lose :)

[joemc44]

r7 #6-2
r8 #9-11-8
r9 #5
r10 #11-8

$12.00
good luck all

[menifee]

Here goes 2k - Saratoga pick 6:

8,9,​WT,2,4,5,6,7,8,​WT,3,5,6,9,10,​WT,2,8,11,​WT, 3,6,​WT,5,6,11



$ 2160.00

[positive4th]

Here goes 2k - Saratoga pick 6:

8,9,​WT,2,4,5,6,7,8,​WT,3,5,6,9,10,​WT,2,8,11,​WT, 3,6,​WT,5,6,11



$ 2160.00

bol, i'm hoping for the 2-day carry!!

[positive4th]

Race 5 - - -

This was a real mis-managed P4 on my part, so rather than hedge, I'm going to go for

2 Units to WIN on :9: to cover the "loss" in the P4, OR to increase the bleeding should he lose :)

ouch

[menifee]

That really hurts, I just couldn't use the 4 - I saw that you used it, but still couldn't do it. Ah, this game is brutal sometimes.

[positive4th]

That really hurts, I just couldn't use the 4 - I saw that you used it, but still couldn't do it. Ah, this game is brutal sometimes.

Yeah - - - oh well, time for some "stupid Daily Double tricks" & the late P4.

[Beachbabe]

Early pick 4:

:4: :6:
:4: :6:
:3: :6:
:4:

Money's tight- bettin' light.

DID play the pick 3 after I lost the pick 4 (when positive4th rooted me down in the opening leg ;) )

I wouldn't usually post a $55 winning pick 3 ticket, but its been a long time between drinks so here it is:

COMPLETED: 78218402014965 SAR #3 $1 Pick-3 4,6,​WT,3,6,​WT,4 none $ 4.00 $ 55.00 + $ 51.00

[positive4th]

Weighted DD's (R6-R7):

R6 - - :2: :5: :7: (trying to dodge the :4: )

R7 - - :3: :6:

[positive4th]

DID play the pick 3 after I lost the pick 4 (when positive4th rooted me down in the opening leg ;) )

I wouldn't usually post a $55 winning pick 3 ticket, but its been a long time between drinks so here it is:

COMPLETED: 78218402014965 SAR #3 $1 Pick-3 4,6,​WT,3,6,​WT,4 none $ 4.00 $ 55.00 + $ 51.00

That's a nice hit, sorry I rooted against you ;)

You wound up alot better in that sequence than I did :) :)

[canleakid]

RESULTS FO THE EARLY P-4
$1 Pick-4: 5-6-6-4 $395.50 :bang:

2 DAY CARRYOVER I THINK ;)

[positive4th]

Weighted DD's (R6-R7):

R6 - - :2: :5: :7: (trying to dodge the :4: )

R7 - - :3: :6:

:5: grabs it, shoulda Tri-boxed those 3!!!!!!!!!!!! Sonofab^*&^* :) :)

[Beachbabe]

:5: grabs it, shoulda Tri-boxed those 3!!!!!!!!!!!! Sonofab^*&^* :) :)


Good luck with the double. I'm singling the 3 here for the late pick 4:

:3:
:2: :10:
:3:
:3: :8: :11:

[positive4th]

Good luck with the double. I'm singling the 3 here for the late pick 4:

:3:
:2: :10:
:3:
:3: :8: :11:

Double connected, P4 is moving along............shoot, just jump back in for a P3, that worked well last time!!!

[Beachbabe]

Double connected, P4 is moving along............shoot, just jump back in for a P3, that worked well last time!!!


Yeah, I did that.......to no avail, this time.

I DO have a cheapy double going into the last race at Delaware.
Need the :7: in the 10th for a whopping $15 double (for $2); got it for $4 :rolleyes:

[positive4th]

Yeah, I did that.......to no avail, this time.

I DO have a cheapy double going into the last race at Delaware.
Need the :7: in the 10th for a whopping $15 double (for $2); got it for $4 :rolleyes:

bol


still trying to decide whether or not to hedge in R9.............they're all covered, but i dont want the :6: so i might bet him as cushion as he'll deflate the p4 payouts

[Beachbabe]

bol


still trying to decide whether or not to hedge in R9.............they're all covered, but i dont want the :6: so i might bet him as cushion as he'll deflate the p4 payouts

Good luck, Pos4th

[positive4th]

Good luck, Pos4th

thx, i hedged a little

[positive4th]

LATE PICK 4 - - -

MAIN Ticket ($3)

:3: :6:
ALL
:3:
:5: :8: :9:

$180

Back-up #1 ($2)

:3: :6:
ALL
:3:
:1: :2: :3: :6: :11:

$200

Back-up #2 ($1)

:3: :6:
ALL
:1: :2: :4: :5: :6:
:5: :8: :9:

$200

Total Invested = $580....that sure seems steep :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


Kind of a good news, bad news deal here, and its useful to notice the double-edged sword of multi-race wagering.

GOOD NEWS: In the race that I bought, I got a $15 winner, and in the one after that, my single ( :3: ) got home, so I'm alive to 8 horses in the finale, and ALL of them for more than a buck. Payouts should be decent if not earth-shattering.

BAD NEWS: In order to get there, I hedged in R9, putting in some Win bets on the :1a: and :6: to off-set the cost of the P4 should those horses win. SO, now I'm alive to many, but also in for an extra 3.5 units in Win bets, meaning I deflated my own P4 prices. That's why they call it gamblin', I guess.

+++ We'll see what the P4 payouts are to see how I feel ultimately about my decision, but I AM happy that my single in R9 came through, that was helpful.

[positive4th]

UPDATE: I went back and did the math here, and I have $1,050 invested in the P4 and hedges that didn't win.

HOWEVER, with the exception of 2 horses (the :7: and :10: ) in R10, I'm alive to all others for a minimum net profit of $200 (a $2 winner to the :1: ) all the way up to a $6K payout ($3 to the :8: ), with a wide range in between................here's to hoping!!

[menifee]

Here goes 2k - Saratoga pick 6:

8,9,​WT,2,4,5,6,7,8,​WT,3,5,6,9,10,​WT,2,8,11,​WT, 3,6,​WT,5,6,11



$ 2160.00

Alive for 5 twice - which will pay nice. If I hit it though - I won't sleep at all. I can't believe I didn't use the 4 in the first leg.

[speed]

Alive for 5 twice - which will pay nice. If I hit it though - I won't sleep at all. I can't believe I didn't use the 4 in the first leg.
Menifee i feel ur pain but in a different way.
I thought in race 5 the 9 Cranberry Queen was a throw out. Which i did and still had no 4 on my tickets. Like you alive to 5 but am rooting against myself. I seriously deserve to rip these tickets up.

Amazing all are carryovers. We had the pool possibly. :bang:

Good Luck to all

[positive4th]

bol, i'm hoping for the 2-day carry!!

I consider this to be a win in its own right..............you can be sure I'll be there on Wednesday :) :) :) :) :) :)

[WinterTriangle]

Race 10: 2, 9

2-9-5-8

[menifee]

Menifee i feel ur pain but in a different way.
I thought in race 5 the 9 Cranberry Queen was a throw out. Which i did and still had no 4 on my tickets. Like you alive to 5 but am rooting against myself. I seriously deserve to rip these tickets up.

Good Luck to all

She was a throwout and I knew it, but I still freaking used her. Contessa is at 4% right now, but I got suckered in by the odds.

There's a guy on here named Phantom - he's a pretty good handicapper and posts his tickets, he used the 4. I had the horse on my ticket (because I couldn't find anybody else but the 8 and I knew I needed another horse) but I needed to save money and couldn't bet Lemclud so I went with the freaking chalk. What was the pool on the Pick 6?

[PhantomOnTour]

Need this Benzel :3: for a decent lil P3 and, dare I say, pad my bankroll for the Weds carryover :D :lol:

I am only 3 outta 5 in the P6 so no hope of a conso payoff

[speed]

Not sure about pool size. Being NY wont be Cali size but gotta be a nice carryover for sure.

[speed]

I honestly feel better running 2nd in the finally instead of cashing 5.
Carryover like $430,000

[positive4th]

UPDATE: I went back and did the math here, and I have $1,050 invested in the P4 and hedges that didn't win.

HOWEVER, with the exception of 2 horses (the :7: and :10: ) in R10, I'm alive to all others for a minimum net profit of $200 (a $2 winner to the :1: ) all the way up to a $6K payout ($3 to the :8: ), with a wide range in between................here's to hoping!!

:11: Looks like a net profit of about $400 for me.............in retrospect hedging in R9 was probably a little wasteful, but I suppose profit is profit.

[PhantomOnTour]

Good job Positive...4 bills is 4 bills and a nice profit. :ThmbUp: Reinvesting on Weds I presume...???

[menifee]

Here goes 2k - Saratoga pick 6:

8,9,​WT,2,4,5,6,7,8,​WT,3,5,6,9,10,​WT,2,8,11,​WT, 3,6,​WT,5,6,11



$ 2160.00

Pays: $6522 for a profit of $4362.


Worst beat ever in the first leg in 25 years of playing as pool carries.:bang:

[positive4th]

08/30/2010 03:43 PM 45789875 Saratoga Race Course 7 $2.00 P4 3,6/1-4,6-11/3/1-3,6,11 $200.00 $1,454.00

There's the net payout, minus the $1050 spent getting there, plus whatever gets taken out...........oh well, a couple hundred bucks is still more than nothin!!

[PhantomOnTour]

I guess that's a double :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: for you Menifee...nice one.

[menifee]

Good job Positive...4 bills is 4 bills and a nice profit. :ThmbUp: Reinvesting on Weds I presume...???

Oh yeah - I love punishment. Just so I know - why did you use the 4 in the first leg? What did you see that I did not see other than the class drop.

[positive4th]

Good job Positive...4 bills is 4 bills and a nice profit. :ThmbUp: Reinvesting on Weds I presume...???


Absolutely.

[positive4th]

Oh yeah - I love punishment. Just so I know - why did you use the 4 in the first leg? What did you see that I did not see other than the class drop.

relax, I wasn't involved in that race except as the last leg of the early P4, and I wasn't alive to the :4: in that, so he did nothing for me.

[PhantomOnTour]

Oh yeah - I love punishment. Just so I know - why did you use the 4 in the first leg? What did you see that I did not see other than the class drop.
I am getting credit I don't deserve....that was another Phantom on this board. I missed in the first leg...no worries :) Follow him instead of me. You wouldn't have hit squat if you played my ticket :lol:

[menifee]

Phantom on tour, positive 4, phantom bridgejumper - I'm getting confused. :lol: Thanks for the kind words fellas.

[Beachbabe]

Congrats to Pos4th, Menifee and anyone else I mighta missed.
It would be nice if we had a "syndicate" for Wednedays carryover, but I wouldn't even know how to start it or finish it. :confused:


Anywho, I may make a few picks at Delaware tomorrow.

[canleakid]

EARLY BUDGET QUICK P-4
3-4 // 6-1 // 3-6-4 // 9 =$12.00 :bang:

LATE P-4

6-2 // 10-8-2 // 1-2 // 11-3-5-8 =$48.00
#6 in the 7th pd.$7.70 & in the 10th #11 pd.$15.20 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

IF I COULD BET THE P-6 MY TICKET WOULD BE:

9 // 7-4-2 // 6-2 // 10-8 // 1-2 // 11-3-5 =$144.00

GOOD LUCK ALL

RESULTS:
$1 Pick-4: 6-11-3-11 PAID $727.00

AND YES WE HAVE A TWO DAY P-6 CARRYOVER OF $443.275.00 :eek:
TIME TO POOL THE MONEY GANG.