Saratoga isn't exactly jumping

[GARY Z]

The Town has been exceptionally quiet this week, I'm presuming
due to the economy, stock market , and hopefully I'm wrong,
competition from MTH.

Today's card actually resembled the 2009 with 10k and 20k claimers,
not a great statement for this showplace.


Still, there truly are very few places that make a racing fan feel
he is in handicappers heaven, unless it turns 95 degrees and you
feel you are hanging with Satan ..

[cj]

Everyone is awaiting my impending arrival. It will liven up.

[JustRalph]

Everyone is awaiting my impending arrival. It will liven up.

And he is bringing a posse :lol:

[the little guy]

The Town has been exceptionally quiet this week, I'm presuming
due to the economy, stock market , and hopefully I'm wrong,
competition from MTH.

Today's card actually resembled the 2009 with 10k and 20k claimers,
not a great statement for this showplace.


Still, there truly are very few places that make a racing fan feel
he is in handicappers heaven, unless it turns 95 degrees and you
feel you are hanging with Satan ..


Written by someone who has no idea how to enjoy this great town.

[only11]

Everyone is awaiting my impending arrival. It will liven up.
Cj upon your arrival will you be holding a press conference?

[GARY Z]

guess you're right, I've only been in this town for the past 20 years.

That said, read the DRF and speak to some people connected to this game,
including the merchants in town rather than making sarcastic
remarks .

:mad:

[JBmadera]

guess you're right, I've only been in this town for the past 20 years.

That said, read the DRF and speak to some people connected to this game,
including the merchants in town rather than making sarcastic
remarks .

:mad:

:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: , it's really boring reading tlg's endless sarcasm. thx for the update Gary.

[GARY Z]

JB:

thanks for the support, and I posted my message to underscore
my concerns for a town and track I love more than any place in
the world.

Best,


Gary

[Dahoss9698]

I wonder who talks to more people connected to the game in Saratoga...Gary Z or TLG. Hmmm...

[cj's dad]

Everyone is awaiting my impending arrival. It will liven up.

And I thought it was all about me !

[badcompany]

JB:

thanks for the support, and I posted my message to underscore
my concerns for a town and track I love more than any place in
the world.

Best,


Gary

Yeah, it's not as though your observations are supported by facts:;)

Tuesday, August 10, 2010,
Attendance, betting down at Saratoga
The Business Review (Albany)

Attendance and betting on horse races at Saratoga Race Course remain below the pace set in last summer’s meet, according to The New York Racing Association Inc.
The data cover the first two full weeks of racing this year and last year. It doesn’t include the first four days of this year’s meet, which NYRA added this year to boost business.

NYRA had this to say about the results:
• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet (12 days, Days 5 through 16) was 271,800, down 3.2 percent from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)
• On-track handle for the two weeks totaled $34,380,833, down 11.7 percent from $38,922,149 for 2009’s first two weeks, with a daily average of $2,865,069 compared to $3,243,512.

****************

I recently got back from 'Toga, having spent three weeks there. I usually arrive about a week before the meet starts to take advantage of off-season motel rates. You didn't need to talk to people "in the game" to notice that the town wasn't as crowded.

This isn't a knock on Toga, and I don't see why Andy has to take it as a personal affront. It just shows that in a down economy, Toga isn't immune.

[Mike at A+]

... I recently got back from 'Toga, having spent three weeks there. I usually arrive about a week before the meet starts to take advantage of off-season motel rates...
Are you implying that your hotel actually extended the off season rate for your entire 3 week stay?

[badcompany]

Are you implying that your hotel actually extended the off season rate for your entire 3 week stay?

No. When the track opens the rate goes up about $120 a day. I like Toga for more than the track. The week leading up to the meet I do alot of hiking, swimming and working on my tan.

[misscashalot]

No. When the track opens the rate goes up about $120 a day. I like Toga for more than the track. The week leading up to the meet I do alot of hiking, swimming and working on my tan.

whatz toga?

[Grits]

Everyone is awaiting my impending arrival. It will liven up.

This trip, please, refrain from your mischief on the turf course and the starting gate! Grown as you are, your daddy can't do a thing with YOU.:lol:

[Charli125]

Written by someone who has no idea how to enjoy this great town.

Ok, so you can either give him an idea of how to enjoy that great town, or you can just insult him. I know which option I'd prefer. Why not act like an ambassador rather than just telling people that they don't have a clue?

Jesus man, it's like you don't want anyone to come to the Spa unless they know all of the insider spots to hang out. I was there last week and had a great time, without even "knowing how to enjoy this great town".

[pktruckdriver]

Let me chime in from a worker perspective, the track here is still just as it always was, but this year a few things are being felt due to the economy.

1. Being the Sales, this year was not worth crowing about, for sure.

2. Some smaller motels are going empty this yearr due to their stubborness at keeping rates ridicuoulsy high.

Most of the summer only Resturants re-opened, but a few did not, they still are the place to be, like Siro's and Horseshoe, and a few others, around the area.

I am a cabbie and the fellow drivers are telling me how this year is so different than years past, as the money just isn't being made by us, where in years past we'd be making double or triple what we are this year, except the night drivers still do pretty well hauling the night-time drinkers around safely.

Local renters also found it somewhat tougher this year to find last minute renters as in years past, and been forced to lower prices a bit, but the preffered places still remain high priced and doing well.

Attendence is still doing well, just try to find a picnic table any day the track is open, now they may not be betting as much, but they are still flocking out to the track to picinic under the tree's, where the clubhouse and grandstands may be just a little less full, but on those give-away days and big race days watch out they come from all-over and fill this place with no problem.

Some say this year more people are hiking and boating and camping than ever before, actuall getting out and seeing the area's near-by, but still hitting the track, not just as often as before.

All this info was gathered from my fellow cabbies and passenger's and can be taken for what it is worth, The Spa is still a greta place to come and enjoy your time off and visit the best track around and still enjoy your off track time, just a little more low keyed as in the past, and less catered parties at rentals this year, then years past, this too from local caterer's and workers we haul around each day.

So enjoy your time here and do all you can , the Spa is still alive with everything you want , Concert's, boating , Casino, outdoors galore, and a Horse track too

Patrick

PS: Not a member of the Chamber of Commerce

[carlonr]

JB:

thanks for the support, and I posted my message to underscore
my concerns for a town and track I love more than any place in
the world.

Best,


Gary

"Didn't you know?, you only supposed to bash synthetic tracks and non-east coast racing"

[Trotman]

Written by someone who has no idea how to enjoy this great town.
Gary Z I've been going to the Spa for 40 years and common sence would say it would be hurting with the economy. I don't quite know how to take TLG's comments as I do respect his views on a lot of things. Maybe it was just one of those days, or a New York kind of thing.

[Bruddah]

And I thought it was all about me !

Daddy'O, it's like every other time you took your boys to the play grounds, it was always about them. :D

[TheBid9]

Gary,
Thanks for your impressions. They are greatly appreciated. Forget the sarcastic post and enjoy your track.

[speed]

whatz toga?

Remember in Animal House the movie, they had a toga party. Except this party is held at saraTOGA race track in New York.

[the little guy]

I did enjoy the many silly responses to my post....good stuff.

Sorry, but the headline of this thread is both wrong and unfortunate. I am at the track every racing day and around town every single night. It seems pretty alive to me. Have there been busier years? Perhaps....but there have been slower years as well. It's the negativity cloaked with the " I love this place, but...." hypocracy that bothers me.

No " buts " for me......I love this town.

[cj's dad]

I did enjoy the many silly responses to my post....good stuff.

Sorry, but the headline of this thread is both wrong and unfortunate. I am at the track every racing day and around town every single night. It seems pretty alive to me. Have there been busier years? Perhaps....but there have been slower years as well. It's the negativity cloaked with the " I love this place, but...." hypocracy that bothers me.

No " buts " for me......I love this town.

So do i BUT if a 20+ year resident states that things are not up to par, why so much sarcasm !!!!

[Relwob Owner]

The Town has been exceptionally quiet this week, I'm presuming
due to the economy, stock market , and hopefully I'm wrong,
competition from MTH.

Today's card actually resembled the 2009 with 10k and 20k claimers,
not a great statement for this showplace.


Still, there truly are very few places that make a racing fan feel
he is in handicappers heaven, unless it turns 95 degrees and you
feel you are hanging with Satan ..


Thanks for the honest feedback Gary...I have been up the last 10 or so years but wont make it up this year and it is good to get an honest assessment of things up there....seems like you probably are as just as likely as any to enjoy the town but just seem to be noticing a difference there....makes sense, given the somewhat turbulent times we are facing, both inside and outside of racing.

[the little guy]

I had to go home early tonight......but the town is jammed.

[GARY Z]

[.

NYRA had this to say about the results:
• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet (12 days, Days 5 through 16) was 271,800, down 3.2 percent from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)


Hi Guys:

Thanks again for the kind words, and frankly, I was simply expressing my
concerns with the turmoil facing the survival of racing country wide
including Saratoga.

Saratoga attendance generally increases during Friday-Sunday
and the weather has been great these past few weeks. Hopefully
this tradition and scenario continues!

I happened to catch Steve Davidowitz on the Capitol OTB show
promoting his new web site :gradeoneracing.com which is free
and informative for pro's and novices, so check it out.

I also caught the Wizard, Mike Kipness on Friday, who moderates the
Capitol OTB simulcast and provides his picks which did quite
well yesterday.Iinterstingly, my picks virtually mirrored Mike's analysis.

Mike was given 10k by captiol OTB prior to the meet and at this point
he's at 9k.BUT, he hammers the tri's and exactas(is 50.00 tri's,60.00
exactas).No pick 3's or 4's like TVG, just plain old exotics/win bets
and great info.Wish he'd get picked up by HRTV or TVG..


For the record, I had a fantastic 2 weeks at the Spa, actually hitting
6 straight races last Saturday, which I've never done at Sar in 20 +years!



For those of you at Saratoga, or planning to go during the
racing season,and love Italian food, check out
Villa Balsamo(former owners and relatives of the crew who
owned Paradiso), and Augies in Ballston Spa.

This recommendation is probably the best tout you'll
ever receive from me. :)

Leaving later today, sunny sky and hoping to "own" the
track today :jump:

Best,

Gary

[Robert Goren]

Saratoga isn't exactly jumping

How can you say that? They just had a hurdles race on thursday.;)

[lamboguy]

i hear they are doing plenty of business at the spa city diner, and mama goldsmith's for breakfast.

[RichieP]

Saratoga isn't exactly jumping

How can you say that? They just had a hurdles race on thursday.;)

:lol::lol: :ThmbUp:

[only11]

[.

NYRA had this to say about the results:
• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet (12 days, Days 5 through 16) was 271,800, down 3.2 percent from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)


Hi Guys:

Thanks again for the kind words, and frankly, I was simply expressing my
concerns with the turmoil facing the survival of racing country wide
including Saratoga.

Saratoga attendance generally increases during Friday-Sunday
and the weather has been great these past few weeks. Hopefully
this tradition and scenario continues!

I happened to catch Steve Davidowitz on the Capitol OTB show
promoting his new web site :gradeoneracing.com which is free
and informative for pro's and novices, so check it out.

I also caught the Wizard, Mike Kipness on Friday, who moderates the
Capitol OTB simulcast and provides his picks which did quite
well yesterday.Iinterstingly, my picks virtually mirrored Mike's analysis.

Mike was given 10k by captiol OTB prior to the meet and at this point
he's at 9k.BUT, he hammers the tri's and exactas(is 50.00 tri's,60.00
exactas).No pick 3's or 4's like TVG, just plain old exotics/win bets
and great info.Wish he'd get picked up by HRTV or TVG..


For the record, I had a fantastic 2 weeks at the Spa, actually hitting
6 straight races last Saturday, which I've never done at Sar in 20 +years!



For those of you at Saratoga, or planning to go during the
racing season,and love Italian food, check out
Villa Balsamo(former owners and relatives of the crew who
owned Paradiso), and Augies in Ballston Spa.

This recommendation is probably the best tout you'll
ever receive from me. :)

Leaving later today, sunny sky and hoping to "own" the
track today :jump:

Best,

Gary
Gary thanks for the onfo on gradeoneracing its a great website

[Rookies]

Saratoga isn't exactly jumping

How can you say that? They just had a hurdles race on thursday.;)

As good as Mosty's saying that this Forum was all all about the races. :D :lol:

But seriously folks, I guess I'd wonder if I/ my group was the ONLY person(s) in attendance, but I love EVERY minute. I await the Durkin greeting with my first screwdriver of the day. The weather, as it has been every day I've been for 10 years, is "clear & fast".

There are worse places in the world to be- by far!

Day 3 of 4- COMIN' UP !:ThmbUp:

[AgainstAllOdds]

Hang on to your hats. I heard that the ostrich and camel races are scheduled soon. :jump:

[WinterTriangle]

GARY! Thanks for Davidowitz's new site.....I had already found it because Lauren Stitch is contributing. :jump: :jump:


It's the negativity cloaked with the " I love this place, but...." hypocracy that bothers me.

If Gary has lived there for 20 years, sounds like he loves it enough to have chosen it for his home and I don't doubt he "loves the place."

Locals have a different way of taking the pulse of their region than tourists, regardless of how many years tourists visit. I didn't think he was being negative so much as making an innocent observation? :confused:

Jumping or not, it surely makes no difference to people visiting and like Rookie said, I'm sure everyone will still enjoy themselves...albeit the locals "may" have a few less dollars from racing tourism this year.

[the little guy]

GARY! Thanks for Davidowitz's new site.....I had already found it because Lauren Stitch is contributing. :jump: :jump:




If Gary has lived there for 20 years, sounds like he loves it enough to have chosen it for his home and I don't doubt he "loves the place."

Locals have a different way of taking the pulse of their region than tourists, regardless of how many years tourists visit. I didn't think he was being negative so much as making an innocent observation? :confused:

Jumping or not, it surely makes no difference to people visiting and like Rookie said, I'm sure everyone will still enjoy themselves...albeit the locals "may" have a few less dollars from racing tourism this year.


Mother Teresa would be impressed with PA's patience for not banning you.

[TheBid9]

Mother Teresa would be impressed with PA's patience for not banning you.

I guess I missed it. What was so wrong with Triangle's post???

[riskman]

GARY! Thanks for Davidowitz's new site.....I had already found it because Lauren Stitch is contributing. :jump: :jump:




If Gary has lived there for 20 years, sounds like he loves it enough to have chosen it for his home and I don't doubt he "loves the place."

Locals have a different way of taking the pulse of their region than tourists, regardless of how many years tourists visit. I didn't think he was being negative so much as making an innocent observation? :confused:

Jumping or not, it surely makes no difference to people visiting and like Rookie said, I'm sure everyone will still enjoy themselves...albeit the locals "may" have a few less dollars from racing tourism this year.

I do not think Gary is a resident of Saratoga. Minor issue, but I could be wrong.

[Bruddah]

Mother Teresa would be impressed with PA's patience for not banning you.


I thought, I was the only one who got off his med's ocassionally. There was nothing in the ladies post which called for that type of post. You're not showing up well as an Industry spokesperson or leader in this thread. More like an Industry neer do well.

As far as PA not banning someone (been there and done that) Your behaviour in this thread would qualify on most sites.

[GARY Z]

Hello to all.

No, I don't live in Saratoga, but I spend at least two weeks at the Spa,
which has been a ritual, for the past 30 years(not 20 as originally posted).

Through the years I have been fortunate to have met numerous
friends and even clients ,and my wife and I are currently scouting
the area to find a permanent secondary residence.

I have been an owner for the past twenty years in various partnerships,
have done some pinhooking that turned out to be profitable, but did
sustain large losses when several of my babies didn't make it to the track.

I currently have a Malibu Moon filly in foal to a son of Street Cry,
and the foal will hopefully be bown in early April.

I have attended every Fasig Tipton sale during this time frame which has
enabled me to meet important people in racing, which really
helps one to appreciate the dynamics of racing.

In short, I'm quite familiar with the game and love the Spa, and
hope this new infusion of $ somehow strengthens the NYRA
operation.

My post was not to criticize or alarm any of you, simply to reflect
on the current scene vs prior years.

Yes,I'm sure I know how to enjoy Saratoga, and hope all of you gets the chance to visit this unique part of the universe.

Best

Gary

[PaceAdvantage]

I thought, I was the only one who got off his med's ocassionally. There was nothing in the ladies post which called for that type of post. You're not showing up well as an Industry spokesperson or leader in this thread. More like an Industry neer do well.

As far as PA not banning someone (been there and done that) Your behaviour in this thread would qualify on most sites.It had nothing to do with her post in this actual thread.

And you yourself Bruddah, have written far, far worse things around here when compared to Andy's recent "written by someone who has no idea" reply. In fact, Andy's reply register's as pretty harmless compared to some of the crap written here on a day by day basis.

The sensitivity meter sure is running high lately. This isn't a "pretty pony" forum where everyone plays "nicey nice" 24/7. This place is more like the track, where people needle and joke and argue their opinions with passion.

Andy is passionate about Saratoga and responded in much the same way as those passionate about Monmouth responded in other threads when people were critical about Monmouth's ongoing "experiment."

[Bruddah]

Respectfully disagree with your Pretty Pony Forum comment. It's as if you represent a New York favored Pony clique poster. I am sure many many others here would agree.

The Little Guy was out of line in this thread and you are too. He doesn't need you to fight his battles. He should/could have represented his station within the Industry and as an important/valued contributor simply by being gentlemanly. He chose to demean himself among the posters here.

Best Regards

John wilkins a.k.a. Bruddah

P.S. I am finished with this thread unless you insist on making it pissing contest. We have had those before and you're still O fer.

[PaceAdvantage]

Respectfully disagree with your Pretty Pony Forum comment. It's as if you represent a New York favored Pony clique poster. I am sure many many others here would agree.You along with everyone else are certainly entitled to your opinions, no matter how off base they might be.

If anyone else other than Andy had written that rather tame (as far as criticisms go) comment, there would not have been pages of condemnation to follow.

Who exactly represents what clique around here I might ask?

And keep living in the past Bruddah...as far as scores go, I'm leading where it counts the most.

[Rico8812]

The Town has been exceptionally quiet this week, I'm presuming
due to the economy, stock market , and hopefully I'm wrong,
competition from MTH.

Today's card actually resembled the 2009 with 10k and 20k claimers,
not a great statement for this showplace.


Still, there truly are very few places that make a racing fan feel
he is in handicappers heaven, unless it turns 95 degrees and you
feel you are hanging with Satan ..

As a local, i'm loving the smaller crowds and lack of traffic. Thanks NYRA!

[PaceAdvantage]

As a local, i'm loving the smaller crowds and lack of traffic. Thanks NYRA!I thought we were blaming Monmouth?!?!

[GARY Z]

A: my posting reflected differences in the town scene, and the
insult from TLG benchmarks his poor judgement.

B: Sure, I can take a shot at friends at the track and vice versa,
but if a stranger makes a sarcastic remark about my bet or me
my response could take a different direction rather than typing
this response.

By the way, if TLG or you made a remark and I wrote an insulting
remark how much heat would I take?

[the little guy]

A: my posting reflected differences in the town scene, and the
insult from TLG benchmarks his poor judgement.

B: Sure, I can take a shot at friends at the track and vice versa,
but if a stranger makes a sarcastic remark about my bet or me
my response could take a different direction rather than typing
this response.

By the way, if TLG or you made a remark and I wrote an insulting
remark how much heat would I take?


Oh stop it. Insult? Stop being so self-aggrandizing and acting as though some grave injustice has been perpetrated against you. You made some blanket statements based on the early days of the meet that I felt were misleading. I hardly " insulted " you. Compared to the average disagreement around here I was practically cordial.

The responses in this thread are not about what was said....but about who said it. PA is the only one willing to say that. In a reverse situation you think you would take a lot of heat? That's funny. Apparently you haven't studied the pps of similar situations around here.

[badcompany]

Andy,

I caught one of your morning shows where you said you agreed with your co-host who believes Saratoga will eventually start on July 4 and run until Labor Day. Do you think this is a good idea? There was a time when I thought so, but, not now. In fact, IMO, extending the meet to its current length has damaged the aura of Saratoga. 10K claimers are for Saratoga Harness, not flats.


Attendance at Saratoga Race Course down 10.7 percent for first 18 days


By PATRICK H. DONGES, The Saratogian


SARATOGA SPRINGS — New York Racing Association is betting on a better second half at Saratoga Race Course after reporting that attendance and on-track handle continued downward in the third week of the 2010 meet.

Attendance for the first 18 days of the meet totaled 392,729, down 10.7 percent from 439,713 in 2009. At the same point last year, attendance was up 8.4 percent from 405,616 in 2008.

On-track handle is also down 10.7 percent, or $392,729, from $439,713 in the 2009 meet, with a daily average of $21,818 compared to $24,429. Last year, after three weeks of racing, on-track handle was up 12.3 percent.

[jelly]

It had nothing to do with her post in this actual thread.

And you yourself Bruddah, have written far, far worse things around here when compared to Andy's recent "written by someone who has no idea" reply. In fact, Andy's reply register's as pretty harmless compared to some of the crap written here on a day by day basis.

The sensitivity meter sure is running high lately. This isn't a "pretty pony" forum where everyone plays "nicey nice" 24/7. This place is more like the track, where people needle and joke and argue their opinions with passion.

Andy is passionate about Saratoga and responded in much the same way as those passionate about Monmouth responded in other threads when people were critical about Monmouth's ongoing "experiment."



I like that approach.

[the little guy]

Andy,

I caught one of your morning shows where you said you agreed with your co-host who believes Saratoga will eventually start on July 4 and run until Labor Day.


Honestly, nothing personal......but this never happened.

[Charlie D]

Off Topic

Hey TLG, i like the different DRF guys format on TH.

Keep up the good work.

[Tom]

Just spent two days at the Spa. No one cared about attendance figures or handle. To much fun going on.

[JustRalph]

Downtown was packed tonight! Lots of people .....2 cars for every 5 dollar parking space

[PaceAdvantage]

Man I wish I was there...have to wait just a wee bit longer...

[Grits]

Just spent two days at the Spa. No one cared about attendance figures or handle. To much fun going on.

Figures and attendance are important, there's no doubt. Still, spending time and sharing interests and laughter with those you enjoy--is a good deal of what this sport is about.

Its far more fun than talking online . . . . . . :)

[Robert Fischer]

does nobody give any credence to the stats AT ALL???

Attendance and betting on horse races at Saratoga Race Course remain below the pace set in last summer’s meet, according to The New York Racing Association Inc.
The data cover the first two full weeks of racing this year and last year. It doesn’t include the first four days of this year’s meet, which NYRA added this year to boost business.

NYRA had this to say about the results:
• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet (12 days, Days 5 through 16) was 271,800, down 3.2 percent from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)
• On-track handle for the two weeks totaled $34,380,833, down 11.7 percent from $38,922,149 for 2009’s first two weeks, with a daily average of $2,865,069 compared


or am I just the only one questioning " '09 vs. '10 discounting the first 4days of '10" ?????

the first damn thing i question when i see a stat like that is whether the first 4 days of '09 where big earners? , if so I look at recent years , and THEN question if the the first 4 days of the meet are significant as "beginnings to festivities" and if so the exclusion of them from 2010 would be ignorant. If not, then we still have a case (not so much with hardly significant 3.2% attendance , but with the on-site handle) then other causes such as stakes schedules, any major "draw horses" from 2009 or other factors (weather?) HAVE to be considered.
im no politician but statistics can easily lie.

shit, without looking at total handle, we can scarcely say if a big player or 2 chose to bet off site due to any number of reasons

[Tom]

does nobody give any credence to the stats AT ALL

Nope, I coudn't care less what the stats say. They have no bearing on my handicapping nor my betting. How do you adjust your methods in light of this knowledge?

[Robert Fischer]

Nope, I coudn't care less what the stats say. They have no bearing on my handicapping nor my betting. How do you adjust your methods in light of this knowledge?


:) you got me. its past my literacy's bed-time, but the rest of my post should convey what i meant.

[GARY Z]

Mike Watchmaker, on yesterday's Blinkers Off show, felt the lengthening
of the meet may have lessened the urgency of fans making reservations at
the local hotels, and rental properties which was not the case in prior
years, thereby creating the decrease in on track handle and attendance.

With the Racino approval, perhaps a return to the original/shorter schedule
coupled with increased purses will attract larger and classier fields to
meet any competition from Mth or any alternative sources.

[gm10]

Mother Teresa would be impressed with PA's patience for not banning you.

Even Mother Teresa would have put you on her ignore list. What is it with you? What in that particular post justified this kind of response?