James Caan - Ultra Conservative

[ArlJim78]

Oh yessss! Welcome aboard James, It's an honor to have you on our side.
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from Fox news of course (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/08/11/james-caan-refuses-typical-hollywood-liberal/?test=faces)
Veteran actor James Caan let people in on a little secret last week. After 46 successful years among Hollywood’s most outspoken liberal stars, he’s speaking up about breaking the mold.

“I'm an ultra conservative,” he said at Moet & Chandon’s 6th Annual Hollyshorts Film Festival Opening Night Celebration in Los Angeles.

“I'm not a G** damn Hollywood liberal, I'm not,” he said, adding he only watches Fox News
Caan, who was at the event promoting his involvement with the online platform Openfilm.com, also added that he doesn’t think Hollywood actors need to comment on every single political issue. When Pop Tarts questioned him on California courts deeming Proposition 8, which bans same sex marriage, “unconstitutional,” he preferred to keep his lips sealed.

"I don't want to comment on that. I'll let those other geniuses do that – all those actors who like to find a stage to push their agendas,” he said. “They don't have political science degrees... I certainly don't. I'll leave it to Sean Penn or Barbara Streisand to comment on that."

[jballscalls]

his best friend is Robert Duvall and Duvall was on the Stern show a week or so ago blasting Obama and saying "we're in deep trouble now with this guy"

[Overlay]

Does this mean that Obama will sleep with the fishes?

[Mike at A+]

Does this mean that Obama will sleep with the fishes?
Only if they're union fishes. :D

[horses4courses]

I've never liked him since he porked that fat chick at Connie's wedding.... ;)

[ArlJim78]

What a beatdown he gave Carlo, Connies husband.

[bigmack]

Not as if it matters but Caan was whacked outta his mind on cocaine for decades.

[GameTheory]

Dennis Hopper said he became a conservative "when he sobered up". Robert Downey Jr said that there was no way he could remain a liberal after his experience in prison. Seems to be a theme with people when they clean themselves up...

[Overlay]

Robert Downey Jr said that there was no way he could remain a liberal after his experience in prison.

Your comment brings this Richard Pryor routine to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txp8B4ek_kk

[Mike at A+]

Dennis Hopper said he became a conservative "when he sobered up". Robert Downey Jr said that there was no way he could remain a liberal after his experience in prison. Seems to be a theme with people when they clean themselves up...
As the old saying goes, "I used to be a liberal. Then I grew up."

[Robert Goren]

It should go " I used to a a liberal, then I fried my brain on drugs and became a right wing nut."

[Mike at A+]

It should go " I used to a a liberal, then I fried my brain on drugs and became a right wing nut."
Maybe in Hopper's case that's true. But the overwhelming majority who grow out of their liberal ways do so once they start to understand where their tax dollars go.

[jballscalls]

Maybe in Hopper's case that's true. But the overwhelming majority who grow out of their liberal ways do so once they start to understand where their tax dollars go.

I remember a few years ago talking to my uncle complaining about why on earth we are going to war in Iraq. he is a staunch conservative and has more money than anyone i know, and he told me once "your too young and poor right now to be a conservative....but give it 10 years, and you'll figure it out" took about 3 years

and then my mom who owns a couple poker rooms and casinos had generally supported democrats because they were the ones who allowed non tribal casinos in our state in 1997. so a couple years ago they tried to spring a 10% gaming tax on her, she was meeting with a conservative state representative who told her "it's ok, they butter you up, then they try to take every.......please, come out of the dark and into the light, things are much better on our side"

[Johnny V]

As the old saying goes, "I used to be a liberal. Then I grew up."
I also remember an old saying going something like this:
If you are a conservative when you are young, you don't have a heart.
If you are a liberal when you are older, you don't have a brain.

[Robert Goren]

I hope she still realizes that if a lot of conservatives could get there way, she would not even have a poker room or casino to tax. You can say what you want about liberals, but you would have look pretty hard to find one that wants to do a way with gambling. Tax the hell out of it, maybe, do away with it, no way.

[JustRalph]

I hope she still realizes that if a lot of conservatives could get there way, she would not even have a poker room or casino to tax. You can say what you want about liberals, but you would have look pretty hard to find one that wants to do a way with gambling. Tax the hell out of it, maybe, do away with it, no way.

This is where you are off base. Most Conservatives lean Libertarian on gambling issues. You are speaking of the Religious right. They are different than pure conservatives. Pure Conservatives are more like Barry Goldwater......the two groups overlap in many areas but true Conservatives don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money.

[Tom]

The left is torn between libs and progressives, and are vying for control fo the party.
The right is at least cleaning up - the Tea Party side is rejecting the lib-lite side of the party. The reason the left is attacking the TP side is that they know full well when the republican party is run by the conservative wing they kick dem ass every time, and when the wimpy lib-lite side controls it, the lose. Why take a poor imitation of a lib when you can have a real one?

They try to muddy the waters. Don't buy it. Remember Reagen's milking stool platform - three legs: smaller, less obtrusive governemnt, strong national defense and security, and fiscal responsibility. Nothingelse is worth arguing, debating, fighting about. All the minor stuff will take care of itself. Focus on the core axis.

[Overlay]

This is where you are off base. Most Conservatives lean Libertarian on gambling issues. You are speaking of the Religious right. They are different than pure conservatives. Pure Conservatives are more like Barry Goldwater......the two groups overlap in many areas but true Conservatives don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money.

Which of those two conservative groups (if either) believes in a balanced budget, and would have the political courage to raise taxes or (preferably) cut governmnent spending enough to achieve it? Those are the conservatives I'm (still) looking for. With the reduction in the deficit during the latter part of the Clinton administration (after the Republicans took over Congress in 1995), I thought we'd see real headway after a Republican got in the White House, too, but it didn't happen. Or did 9/11 and the war on terror change that whole equation?

[GameTheory]

Which of those two conservative groups (if either) believes in a balanced budget, and would have the political courage to raise taxes or (preferably) cut governmnent spending enough to achieve it? Those are the conservatives I'm (still) looking for. With the reduction in the deficit during the latter part of the Clinton administration (after the Republicans took over Congress in 1995), I thought we'd see real headway after a Republican got in the White House, too, but it didn't happen. Or did 9/11 and the war on terror change that whole equation?You'll never see disciplined fiscal management when either of these two parties holds both Congress and the Presidency. Then it is payoff and graft time for all the loyal supporters who got them there.

[JustRalph]

Which of those two conservative groups (if either) believes in a balanced budget, and would have the political courage to raise taxes or (preferably) cut governmnent spending enough to achieve it? Those are the conservatives I'm (still) looking for. With the reduction in the deficit during the latter part of the Clinton administration (after the Republicans took over Congress in 1995), I thought we'd see real headway after a Republican got in the White House, too, but it didn't happen. Or did 9/11 and the war on terror change that whole equation?

and this is what spawned the Tea Party. It speaks for itself. I don't agree with the way the Tea Party is doing some things........but it is a symptom of the problem you illustrate above.

[Robert Goren]

This is where you are off base. Most Conservatives lean Libertarian on gambling issues. You are speaking of the Religious right. They are different than pure conservatives. Pure Conservatives are more like Barry Goldwater......the two groups overlap in many areas but true Conservatives don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money. Then there aren't very many true Conservatives out there. Just fire off a letter to your favorite Conservatives and ask them how they feel about gambling. They will tell you. It is one of the few times you will get a straight answer from a politician of any ilk. They are proud of their anti gambling stances. Send the letters or e-mails and I think you will be amazed. I know who the anti gambling people are in Nebraska from my work on trying to legalize casino gambling here. They almost all call themselves conservatives and there is a lot of them here. A true Libertarian is very hard to find although there is a few people who claim to be until you start asking questions.

[JustRalph]

Then there aren't very many true Conservatives out there.

Now you have reached a new state of enlightenment Grasshopper!

[Rookies]

:sleeping:

On a scale of 1-10, this one rates about, why don't you dial the:

1-800-RATZ-ASS line ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

An Actor commenting on politics... who cares !

[Robert Goren]

:sleeping:

On a scale of 1-10, this one rates about, why don't you dial the:

1-800-RATZ-ASS line ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

An Actor commenting on politics... who cares !If you were refering to me, where did you get the idea I was an actor?

[alytim]

If you were refering to me, where did you get the idea I was an actor?

It's your rugged good looks.

[Tom]

I thought it was your rapier wit.

[NJ Stinks]

This is where you are off base. Most Conservatives lean Libertarian on gambling issues. You are speaking of the Religious right. They are different than pure conservatives. Pure Conservatives are more like Barry Goldwater......the two groups overlap in many areas but true Conservatives don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money.

Talk about making excuses, BS, etc. The plain fact is the far right needs the religious right to win elections. Period. Hence, "pure" conservatives everywhere sell their souls to the devil and allow their mealy-mouthed politicians to cave in when it comes to actually endorsing gambling.

If I'm wrong name a few rugged individuals in the GOP who stand by that imaginary "Libertarian" bent you referred to above. You know. The ones who openly say they don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money when it comes to gambling.

IMO, when it comes to money or principles, it's no contest in the GOP. Just another reason why I wouldn't be caught dead supporting the Republican party. :ThmbDown:

[newtothegame]

Talk about making excuses, BS, etc. The plain fact is the far right needs the religious right to win elections. Period. Hence, "pure" conservatives everywhere sell their souls to the devil and allow their mealy-mouthed politicians to cave in when it comes to actually endorsing gambling.

If I'm wrong name a few rugged individuals in the GOP who stand by that imaginary "Libertarian" bent you referred to above. You know. The ones who openly say they don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money when it comes to gambling.

IMO, when it comes to money or principles, it's no contest in the GOP. Just another reason why I wouldn't be caught dead supporting the Republican party. :ThmbDown:

Well duh....of course you couldnt be dead voting for repugs...only dems do that!!! :lol: :lol:

[NJ Stinks]

Well duh....of course you couldnt be dead voting for repugs...only dems do that!!! :lol: :lol:

Pretty good comeback. :)

[BlueShoe]

I also remember an old saying going something like this:
If you are a conservative when you are young, you don't have a heart.
If you are a liberal when you are older, you don't have a brain.
This famous quotation has been attributed to several men, the most noteworthy being Winston Churchhill. His version is said to be:
If, when you are young, you are not a liberal, then you have no heart.
If, when you are older, you are not a conservative, then you have no brain.

[Robert Goren]

Ok, it time to put up or shut up. Start naming names of conservatives politicians who openly support gambling from some place other than Nevada. The Challenge is on.

[bigmack]

Dems could care less for online gambling because of the freedom it offers, it's them tax revenues.

"I have opposed this bill for years, but I am slowly changing," said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif. "The best reason for this bill is the prospect for revenue."

Supporters of the bill estimate that taxing Internet gambling could generate as much as $42 billion over 10 years for the federal government.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/07/29/128844212/internet-gambling-could-generate-billions-for-the-government

Are Reps foolish to oppose a private activity?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/8_14_10_10_15_06.jpg

Full art from Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/12/internet-gambling-regulation-republicans-opinions-contributors-michelle-minton.html?boxes=Homepagechannels

All in all, it looks like 7 Reps voted :ThmbUp: .

[Robert Goren]

Here is site to see who voted for/against H.R. 2267.
http://www.safeandsecureig.org/media/hr2267votetally.pdf

[bigmack]

Here is site to see who voted for/against H.R. 2267.
http://www.safeandsecureig.org/media/hr2267votetally.pdf
Does that mean your challenge is off?

[Robert Goren]

Does that mean your challenge is off? Not a lot of big names voting yes on the Republican side. The only R yes name I recognized Peter King of NY. Among the nays was Michele Bachmann, one of Keith Obermann's favorite Republicans. Two people conservatives love to hate were among the D yes votes, Barney Frank and Maxine Waters. How many of the R yes are Rhinos?

[NJ Stinks]

Ok, it time to put up or shut up. Start naming names of conservatives politicians who openly support gambling from some place other than Nevada. The Challenge is on.

Robert, I figured if one person was going to enjoy reading my post, it's you! :cool:

Conservatives vote with their wallets and leave their values home. Everybody knows it except maybe the religious right who prefer to think their beliefs are mainstream.

[Robert Goren]

Robert, I figured if one person was going to enjoy reading my post, it's you! :cool:

Conservatives vote with their wallets and leave their values home. Everybody knows it except maybe the religious right who prefer to think their beliefs are mainstream. Well, you are close. Conservatives talk about voting with their wallets. But they vote their values. You can be the biggest supporter of tax cuts in the world or what other wallet issues you can name, but if you support gun control you are going to be in trouble at election time. If Barney Frank(pro gambling) and Jon Kyl (as anti gambling as you can get) were running against each other, how many people this board would vote for Kyl? May be someone could set up a poll.

[Tom]

Conservatives vote with their wallets and leave their values home. Everybody knows it except maybe the religious right who prefer to think their beliefs are mainstream.

Don't mix conservatives and republicans. OF course we vote with our wallets - when half the country feels entitles to help themselves to the fruits of our rewards, we have no choice. The government's role is not to rob Peter to pay Paul. As far as the religious right - that is republican trash, like the dems have lib trash and progressive trash.

Libs vote with their hands out.

[toetoe]

Does this mean that Obama will sleep with the fishes?




He's sleeping with a piranha now. :p

[PaceAdvantage]

This is where you are off base. Most Conservatives lean Libertarian on gambling issues. You are speaking of the Religious right. They are different than pure conservatives. Pure Conservatives are more like Barry Goldwater......the two groups overlap in many areas but true Conservatives don't believe they can tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money.Amen Bruddah!

[PaceAdvantage]

May be someone could set up a poll.Now wait a second...what happened to the poll that was supposed to be started in reply #31? Now you want ANOTHER poll? :lol:

[GaryG]

I am as conservative as they come, trust me. I vote for ideals first then my wallet. As far as online gambling, I don't care. If it was outlawed I would just start going to the track like I did for so many years. There are bigger issues on the table than gambling. How about a blowhard Marxist that is trying to impose his will on our great country?

[bigmack]

I have to remind myself to judge politicians on their level of support for gambling. Then I could see more of the ravages of casinos everywhere, pull-tabs & state lotteries have on the financially strapped. After they spend their rent money on lotto tickets & slots we could tax the bejesus out of the pack of smokes they need to buy.

Dems workin' for the workin' folk through taxation.

[NJ Stinks]

I have to remind myself to judge politicians on their level of support for gambling. Then I could see more of the ravages of casinos everywhere, pull-tabs & state lotteries have on the financially strapped. After they spend their rent money on lotto tickets & slots we could tax the bejesus out of the pack of smokes they need to buy.

Dems workin' for the workin' folk through taxation.

We appreciate your interest in saving people from themselves when it comes to gambling. :rolleyes:

[bigmack]

We appreciate your interest in saving people from themselves when it comes to gambling. :rolleyes:
As usual you miss the point.

I still can't figure out how you're not 12 with all the subjects you remain so ignorant of.

[Robert Goren]

I am as conservative as they come, trust me. I vote for ideals first then my wallet. As far as online gambling, I don't care. If it was outlawed I would just start going to the track like I did for so many years. There are bigger issues on the table than gambling. How about a blowhard Marxist that is trying to impose his will on our great country?I think this represents the typical conservative mindset.