Dahoss vs. Only11

[Dahoss9698]

Rules

The contest will last from July 17th and end after the last race from Del Mar on August 22nd. The contest days are every Saturday and Sunday. You get 10 $2 Win/Place bets on any thoroughbred track running every Saturday and Sunday during the contest. Bets need to be in by 12:30pm eastern every race day. If your bet scratches, you get post time favorite. If you bet an entry you get both halves. Please post the bets in this thread. The highest profit or lowest amount of money lost at the end will be the winner.

I will try and update the scores after everyday, but I can't promise it. When putting your wagers in this thread, please indicate track, race, horse number. Only11 wins and Dahoss has to leave the board for good. Dahoss wins and Only11 donates $100 to a charity Dahoss chooses. Good luck.

[PaceAdvantage]

I get the feeling at least one of these rules will be broken on day 1. Hope I'm wrong.

[Dahoss9698]

I get the feeling at least one of these rules will be broken on day 1. Hope I'm wrong.

Which one...or ones? I thought they were all pretty specific and it seems like having all of the plays in at a specific time is the fairest way.

[lamboguy]

Which one...or ones? I thought they were all pretty specific and it seems like having all of the plays in at a specific time is the fairest way.personaly, i don't want to see you leave. i would be willing to put up $100 for a contest between you 2 as long as i don't have to monitor it. i would be more that happy to put the money up upfront. but i don't want any part of the contest to have to do with you leaving this board. i need guys like you with intelligence in the horse racing game to keep posting here, that is why i am willing to put up the money.

[thaskalos]

Dahoss...you are being stubborn here IMO. Nobody wants you to leave.

For one thing...the Zenyatta/Rachel threads won't be the same without you. :)

[Hedevar]

Pace was correct. Only 11 has already posted his selections in the wrong thread. He is at the Man O' War thread.

[Hedevar]

Perhaps it's a decoy.

[only11]

Perhaps it's a decoy.
Now thats funny... :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wont change the rules but...if i had a choice i would make this change every horse picked has to be over 3/1 and this is why...

Supposed i jumped to a 5 horse lead(Likely scenario)...and leading thru out...all of a sudden Chalkie Dahoss decides to pick chalks and he gets back in it with a bunch of 3.60 horses now what?
Imade 2 picks today that i would never make...but if i get off to a slow start at least i could be sure i have Baze/Catalano for a 4.00 winner..
But we will play by HIS rules i will post my picks here..

Belmont

1- :2:
2- :5:
5- :5:
6- :3:
8- :3:

Monmouth

7th- :7:
10th- :7:

Arlington

4th- :7:
8th- :2:

Colonial

12- :2:

Also i will be holding a press conference after todays debacle...no follow up questions Thank you
And to make it even i will leave PA if i lose and still donate my miserable$100 fair enough..

[Dahoss9698]

Only11, I'm not sure if you read the rules or not, but I thought they were pretty self explanatory. It really has nothing to do with the number of horses that win. It's based on the highest amount of money won or lowest lost (ROI) at the end. There won't be a 5 horse lead, because it is based on money. You might jump to a high $ amount lead (likely scenario), but if that happens a bunch of $3.60 horses (my bread and butter obviously) won't get me back into it.

I have to give PA credit though. He called it from the start. What exactly was confusing about my first post and why put the picks in the Man O War thread? Especially after I pm'd you this thread? And there is no reason for you to leave. We made the agreement and I have no desire for you to leave.

[Dahoss9698]

Saturday July 17th

Belmont
1st- :7:
5th- :8:
6th- :3:
7th- :4:
10th- :3:

Monmouth
1st- :6:
4th- :5:

Colonial Downs
10th- :12:
12th- :3:

Arlington Park
9th- :3:

[Dahoss9698]

personaly, i don't want to see you leave. i would be willing to put up $100 for a contest between you 2 as long as i don't have to monitor it. i would be more that happy to put the money up upfront. but i don't want any part of the contest to have to do with you leaving this board. i need guys like you with intelligence in the horse racing game to keep posting here, that is why i am willing to put up the money.

I appreciate it, but it's not about the money at all.



Dahoss...you are being stubborn here IMO. Nobody wants you to leave.

For one thing...the Zenyatta/Rachel threads won't be the same without you. :)

Not the first or last time I've been accused of being stubborn.

[only11]

honestly i didnt read this post til after i posted my picks..secondly i wasnt clear on the rules but im ok with it..let the games begin..

[only11]

honestly i didnt read this post til after i posted my picks..secondly i wasnt clear on the rules but im ok with it..let the games begin..
Unique Citizen was tons the best in the 5th,your horse got the jump on mine,after a troubled trip...

[Dahoss9698]

Unique Citizen was tons the best in the 5th,your horse got the jump on mine,after a troubled trip...

First of many whines of this contest.

[only11]

First of many whines of this contest.
Are you saying the different..what were you watching...Unique Citizen was bottled up behind horses..then went around your horse picked up his head a bit late.. im ok behind a few dollars...

[Dahoss9698]

Are you saying the different..what were you watching...Unique Citizen was bottled up behind horses..then went around your horse picked up his head a bit late.. im ok behind a few dollars...

Try and not lose your head the first day. Your horse was probably best. I don't know about being "tons the best" but for your sake it was unfortunate he had to wait. The point is, stop whining already. Did I whine when CC Lopez rode like an idiot in the 1st? How about Jara's ride in the 4th at Monmouth? It'll all even out.

[only11]

Try and not lose your head the first day. Your horse was probably best. I don't know about being "tons the best" but for your sake it was unfortunate he had to wait. The point is, stop whining already. Did I whine when CC Lopez rode like an idiot in the 1st? How about Jara's ride in the 4th at Monmouth? It'll all even out.
Wait Santiago in the first had a wwf chokehold on Lubash in the first...

[Dahoss9698]

Wait Santiago in the first had a wwf chokehold on Lubash in the first...

The difference in the two rides in the 1st isn't even close.

[only11]

The difference in the two rides in the 1st isn't even close.
Your horse made a harness move at least he tried to win,,,santiago totally stiffed the 2...3 moves from the start of the race

[Dahoss9698]

Your horse made a harness move at least he tried to win,,,santiago totally stiffed the 2...3 moves from the start of the race

He stiffed the horse? This is getting comical. I don't have the time to try and educate you any further. Please, please watch some replays and understand how trips influence the way a horse runs. You are totally clueless in that aspect of the game.

[only11]

DA ok let me clear this up for you "stiff " is a word often used to simply say the jock is a ahole...it doesnt mean as in fixing races..
Now i just saw the race again the 2 made 3 moves...had the lead briefly..then the stranglehold began behind your piece of garbage..then moved up to engage then dropped back..made his bid then flatten..

[Dahoss9698]

DA ok let me clear this up for you "stiff " is a word often used to simply say the jock is a ahole...it doesnt mean as in fixing races..
Now i just saw the race again the 2 made 3 moves...had the lead briefly..then the stranglehold began behind your piece of garbage..then moved up to engage then dropped back..made his bid then flatten..

How can someone be so confused about simple aspects of this game? You would have preferred he went out and joined CC when he moved 4 furlongs too early?

[only11]

He stiffed the horse? This is getting comical. I don't have the time to try and educate you any further. Please, please watch some replays and understand how trips influence the way a horse runs. You are totally clueless in that aspect of the game.
dahoss let me take you to school...
There off DURKIN SAYS LUBASH TO THE FRONT HAS A CLEAR LEAD
3 seconds later
DURKIN SAYS LUBASH HAS BEEN YANKED BACK TO 3RD(YANKED BEING THE IMPERATIVE WORD) 25 seconds later
DURKIN SAYS LUBASH still UNDER STOUDT RESTRAIN...
ok listen to the race just dont watch it DADUMMY

[Dahoss9698]

I wish I could have taken bets about how long it would take for you to go on tilt.

[only11]

I wish I could have taken bets about how long it would take for you to go on tilt.
I just explain what DURKIN saw in the race...

[Dahoss9698]

Who cares what Durkin saw? I'm asking, would you have preferred he went out dueling on the lead? Do you think that would have changed the horses outcome? If anything he would have finished farther back.

Watch more, talk less. You could learn a lot by watching races and not whining.

[only11]

Dueling and they went 24 1st quarter..what was this a BC sprint grow up with that comment..

[only11]

Nicely done Dahoss,,,tip my cap...but not soooo fast a ala corso...
you won the 1st inning...my bullpen is up early...tomorrow will be another day...
My mother did say they will be days like this...

[only11]

Now thats funny... :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wont change the rules but...if i had a choice i would make this change every horse picked has to be over 3/1 and this is why...

Supposed i jumped to a 5 horse lead(Likely scenario)...and leading thru out...all of a sudden Chalkie Dahoss decides to pick chalks and he gets back in it with a bunch of 3.60 horses now what?
Imade 2 picks today that i would never make...but if i get off to a slow start at least i could be sure i have Baze/Catalano for a 4.00 winner..
But we will play by HIS rules i will post my picks here..

Belmont

1- :2:
2- :5:
5- :5:
6- :3:
8- :3:

Monmouth

7th- :7:
10th- :7:

Arlington

4th- :7:
8th- :2:

Colonial

12- :2:

Also i will be holding a press conference after todays debacle...no follow up questions Thank you
And to make it even i will leave PA if i lose and still donate my miserable$100 fair enough..
Imade 2 picks today that i would never make
I have made the adjustments.i was being honest i thought it was head to head..no excuse DAHOSS you got the best of me today...got the bullpen going tomorrow different stragedy

[only11]

Imade 2 picks today that i would never make
I have made the adjustments.i was being honest i thought it was head to head..no excuse DAHOSS you got the best of me today...got the bullpen going tomorrow different stragedy
Imade 2 picks today that i would never make

[jpjpicks]

i like to join your contest can i post picks for sunday

jimmy

[Dahoss9698]

i like to join your contest can i post picks for sunday

jimmy

I would prefer if you did not. It's between he and I and there isn't any reason for anyone else to post picks in this thread.

[Dahoss9698]

Imade 2 picks today that i would never make
I have made the adjustments.i was being honest i thought it was head to head..no excuse DAHOSS you got the best of me today...got the bullpen going tomorrow different stragedy

I'm not sure why you would think it was head to head. When you asked me a week ago I explained how it would be scored and my first post in this thread explained it also. I sent you a pm with the link to this thread and you posted your picks AFTER I sent you that.

[only11]

Because im a idiot and i read it without taking time to understand it..Dahoss you got the best of me today no excuses...the only bet i lost out was Kijo...but i still wouldve gotten beat..
Tomorrow is another day..
We could take turns adding up the totals.I could take next week to add it up...
Good job i went over your picks 1hr ago and they were very well thought out and it offered value....
different tune tomorrow...i have my bullpen up and going...have a good night..

[only11]

i send you a pm read them...

[Dahoss9698]

Saturday July 17th

Belmont
1st- :7: 6th
5th- :8: 1st $10.80 to win $5.60 to place
6th- :3: 1st $7.70 to win $3.70 to place
7th- :4: 6th
10th- :3: 2nd $8.40 to place

Monmouth
1st- :6: 2nd $8.60 to place
4th- :5: 6th

Colonial Downs
10th- :12: 5th
12th- :3: 2nd $3.40 to place

Arlington Park
9th- :3: 1st $14.20 to win $6.20 to place




Belmont

1- :2: 3rd
2- :5: 3rd
5- :5: 2nd $7.10 to place
6- :3: 1st $7.70 to win $3.70 to win
8- :3: 5th

Monmouth

7th- :7: 8th
10th- :7: 7th

Arlington

4th- :7: 5th
8th- :2: 6th

Colonial

12- :2: 3rd



Day 1 Totals

Dahoss- $40 wagered $68.60 returned
Total- Plus $28.60

Only11- $40 wagered $18.50 returned
Total- Minus $21.50

[PaceAdvantage]

i like to join your contest can i post picks for sunday

jimmyAny selections by anyone other than Dahoss and only11 should and will be deleted from this thread.

[only11]

After breaking slowly i have settle going into the first turn..deciding to save ground...


Belmont-

2rce- :5:
7th- :10:

Monmouth-
2rce- :7:
5th- :5:
7th- :11:
8th- :3:
11th- :2:


Hollywood-
1st- :3:
4th- :2:
9th :2:

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: ice in my veins!!!

[Dahoss9698]

Woodbine
6th- #:6:
9th- #:4:

Arlington
7th- #:6:

Hollywood
7th- #:8:
9th- #:3:

Monmouth

6th- #:6:
7th- #:3:
8th- #:2:

Belmont

5th- #:7:
9th- #:8:

[only11]

3 for 3 today :cool: ice in my veins..bullpen has stopped warming for the time being..

[only11]

Since my horse was scratch from the 2nd @ monmouth the post time favorite won.
But my other 2 picks JOGGED!

[only11]

Dahoss strkies with back to back winners @ monmouth and Woodbine..

[thaskalos]

What's the score? :)

[only11]

hes up...but im heating up,but hes on fuego i need to weather the storm hes been good,my hat off to him i got til August 22 to make a Silky Sullivan move with the Spa and Del mar approaching ill be ok

[only11]

Ran 2nd @ monmouth 6-1 got beat by the chalk..

[thaskalos]

hes up...but im heating up,but hes on fuego i need to weather the storm hes been good,my hat off to him i got til August 22 to make a Silky Sullivan move with the Spa and Del mar approaching ill be ok If only the race between you and Dahoss was run on a synthetic track...which would be more conducive to your "late move"...

[Dahoss9698]

If only the race between you and Dahoss was run on a synthetic track...which would be more conducive to your "late move"...

He'll be okay as long as he keeps falling into the chalk after his picks scratch. I can only imagine the pm's he must be getting from my fans. :lol:

[Dahoss9698]

Woodbine
6th- #:6: 1st $13.90 to win $4.80 to place
9th- #:4: 4th

Arlington
7th- #:6: 2nd $4.80 to place

Hollywood
7th- #:8: 6th (put him in your stablemail, will win next time)
9th- #:3: 4th

Monmouth

6th- #:6: 1st $10.60 to win $5.80 to place
7th- #:3: 7th
8th- #:2: 5th

Belmont

5th- #:7: 8th
9th- #:8: 5th






Belmont-

2rce- :5: 1st $6.50 to win $3.40 to place
7th- :10: 3rd

Monmouth-
2rce- :7: SCR Favorite wins $3.60 to win #2.20 to place
5th- :5: 1st $9.60 to win $6.00 to place
7th- :11: 2nd $5.60 to place
8th- :3: 6th
11th- :2: 3rd


Hollywood-
1st- :3: 6th
4th- :2: 5th
9th :2: SCR...Favorite wins $6.80 to win $3.60 to place



Day 2 Totals

Dahoss- $40 wagered $39.90 returned
Contest Total- $80 wagered $108.50 returned

Only11- $40 wagered $47.30 returned
Contest Total- $80 wagered $65.80 returned

[only11]

its called stragedy...since the picks have to be in by 1230 its tough..but i needed to get back in the game..had a tough beat at monmouth in the last race horse was 17-1..til next weekend dahoss may all your photos be losing ones..
I will catch you trust me...

[Dahoss9698]

its called stragedy...since the picks have to be in by 1230 its tough..but i needed to get back in the game..had a tough beat at monmouth in the last race horse was 17-1..til next weekend dahoss may all your photos be losing ones..
I will catch you trust me...

Strategy? Excuses? Where did all of the bravado go?

[only11]

Dahoss its a marathon be careful though...i will catch you..

[only11]

Strategy? Excuses? Where did all of the bravado go?
Excuses are for people who are ready to find a way to lose...not me

[Dahoss9698]

Dahoss its a marathon be careful though...i will catch you..

I understand it's a marathon. I just fail to see what the "strategy" was. You're the one talking and have been. I just find it funny.

[only11]

Being down i cant play as aggressive..after all said and done you beat me saturday and i beat you Sunday...
Dahoss after you posted about David Arias i knew you were to be reckoned with....not many knew that...
Im still going to run you down..

[Floyd]

its called stragedy...

You know what they say: "Scomedy = Stragedy + Time!"

[PaceAdvantage]

Being down i cant play as aggressive..after all said and done you beat me saturday and i beat you Sunday...
Dahoss after you posted about David Arias i knew you were to be reckoned with....not many knew that...
Im still going to run you down..My how you've mellowed from your previous cocky self...it's a long road...best at this point to simply post picks and keep quiet...let the score do the talking...

[Dahoss9698]

Being down i cant play as aggressive..after all said and done you beat me saturday and i beat you Sunday...
Dahoss after you posted about David Arias i knew you were to be reckoned with....not many knew that...
Im still going to run you down..

I googled the Arias stuff.

For the record you beat me Sunday with two scratched favorites winning. On your own picks you didn't. Good luck rest of the way.

[only11]

He had one good day now you want to pencil him into the Saratoga hall of fame jesus...
For your information PA i would donate $100 to his charity and i will leave this forum... but we both must show our ROI from our ADWs...
I know your a Dahoss fan ,if you think im keeping quiet this ought to shut me up right?

[only11]

I googled the Arias stuff.

For the record you beat me Sunday with two scratched favorites winning. On your own picks you didn't. Good luck rest of the way.
And for the record you made up the post time favorite rule.I rather call the race a no bet...

[only11]

Dahoss you just keep using your speed figures and par numbers... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[only11]

PA keep rooting for Dahoss thats the kiss of death!

[Hedevar]

I've been waiting for your press conference. Understood no questions. I had a post deleted asking about the conference.

[castaway01]

You know what they say: "Scomedy = Stragedy + Time!"

I think Curly Howard said that, but then he was a victim of circumstance.

[the little guy]

This thread remonds me of another one from the not too distant path.

He didn't really say that Lubash and Unique Citizen were best....did he? Lubash???? I can see why he was fooled by Unique Citizen....but Lubash?

[Hedevar]

Dahoss has more friends than you suspected.

[PaceAdvantage]

For your information PA i would donate $100 to his charity and i will leave this forum... but we both must show our ROI from our ADWs...Huh? Dat no part o' rulez.

[only11]

This thread remonds me of another one from the not too distant path.

He didn't really say that Lubash and Unique Citizen were best....did he? Lubash???? I can see why he was fooled by Unique Citizen....but Lubash?
i never said he was the best...i said he got a bad ride..let me guess your a lifetime winner?

[only11]

This thread remonds me of another one from the not too distant path.

He didn't really say that Lubash and Unique Citizen were best....did he? Lubash???? I can see why he was fooled by Unique Citizen....but Lubash?
so i got fooled by Unique Citizen....let me guess your a lifetime winner!

[only11]

Huh? Dat no part o' rulez.
Oh.. ok then its best to keep quiet...

[Dahoss9698]

Oh.. ok then its best to keep quiet...

Way too late for that.

[only11]

Dahoss amigo you make the rules then you bitch and whine about him...you made the post time favorite rule not me...dont start bitching about it..

[Dahoss9698]

Dahoss amigo you make the rules then you bitch and whine about him...you made the post time favorite rule not me...dont start bitching about it..

Who's bitching?

[the little guy]

so i got fooled by Unique Citizen....let me guess your a lifetime winner!


Since you asked ( twice )....yes, I am a substantial lifetime winner.

However, if I broke it down to an hourly wage........

[only11]

Since you asked ( twice )....yes, I am a substantial lifetime winner.

However, if I broke it down to an hourly wage........
Soooo if you broke it down hourly are you a lifetime winner?Let me get this straight from the very first nickle you ever wagered til now you have beaten this game?

[only11]

Who's bitching?
Funny i saw your picks @ Delaware...talk about chalk :lol: :lol:

[only11]

Who's bitching?
For the record you beat me Sunday with two scratched favorites winning. On your own picks you didn't. Good luck rest of the way..

I know your being sarcastic.. :D ..

[PaceAdvantage]

It's amazing how quiet only11 was after day one..why was that?

[cj]

It's amazing how quiet only11 was after day one..why was that?

I'm not even sure why he is talking now.

[only11]

Wasnt quiet..i was busy the rays are ready to deal upton...

[only11]

I'm not even sure why he is talking now.
Why wouldnt i talk..im having fun with this if i lose i donate to a great charity...the world doesnt end if i lose...

[cj]

Why wouldnt i talk..im having fun with this if i lose i donate to a great charity...the world doesnt end if i lose...

Cool, that is a good attitude to have.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Why wouldnt i talk..im having fun with this if i lose i donate to a great charity...the world doesnt end if i lose...

Given your position in the baseball world, why only a $100 donation? I recall the mention of a $350k sign-on bonus - surely more followed. The $100 donation seems rather nominal, some might say miserly, no?

[only11]

Cool, that is a good attitude to have.
attitude is everthing..learned in the minors and bigs...Its who you are..roses dont have thorns...thorns have roses..its how you look at it...
Does Dahoss know more about racing then me..yep...but it doesnt mean hes better..I complimented him when he whiped me on saturday..i came back and won Sunday granted i had some luck but you need it in this game..
Attitude!!!

[only11]

Given your position in the baseball world, why only a $100 donation? I recall the mention of a $350k sign-on bonus - surely more followed. The $100 donation seems rather nominal, some might say miserly, no?
I signed for the that bonus 20 years ago...i currently worked as a investigator for the DERPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY..and i did some scouting for the rays early on,,,im still a area scout for the rays...I scouted Michael Burgess and wanted the rays to sign him he wanted to much money..i get a pension from mlb but i made some bad decisions thru my lifetime....it happens..

[Saratoga_Mike]

I signed for the that bonus 20 years ago...i currently worked as a investigator for the DERPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY..and i did some scouting for the rays early on,,,im still a area scout for the rays...I scouted Michael Burgess and wanted the rays to sign him he wanted to much money..i get a pension from mlb but i made some bad decisions thru my lifetime....it happens..

Fair enough - I'd never seen anyone call out a sign-on bonus on this board until your post. I thought it was odd. Of course there was the British chap who informed us all that he was a millionaire. Gotta ask: how many yrs do you have to play in MLB to get a pension?

[only11]

Given your position in the baseball world, why only a $100 donation? I recall the mention of a $350k sign-on bonus - surely more followed. The $100 donation seems rather nominal, some might say miserly, no?
One other thing Mike since you think im cheap...We have a foundation in honor of breast cancer and every year we hold a golf tournament @ country way in tampa raises thousands of dollars a year..

[only11]

Fair enough - I'd never seen anyone call out a sign-on bonus on this board until your post. I thought it was odd. Of course there was the British chap who informed us all that he was a millionaire. Gotta ask: how many yrs do you have to play in MLB to get a pension?
Played 8 years anything else...?

[judd]

One other thing Mike since you think im cheap...We have a foundation in honor of breast cancer and every year we hold a golf tournament @ country way in tampa raises thousands of dollars a year..
when is it? i go to sarasota every year

[only11]

Fair enough - I'd never seen anyone call out a sign-on bonus on this board until your post. I thought it was odd. Of course there was the British chap who informed us all that he was a millionaire. Gotta ask: how many yrs do you have to play in MLB to get a pension?
another thing Spa Mike i trained this kid called Jason Heinrich...and yes hes might be a better hitter then Harper..look it up on you tube..I nicknamed him K9 will be a first rounder in 4 years..

[Saratoga_Mike]

One other thing Mike since you think im cheap...We have a foundation in honor of breast cancer and every year we hold a golf tournament @ country way in tampa raises thousands of dollars a year..

It crossed my mind that you were cheap when you were presenting yourself as a former hot-shot MLB player, at very least you intimated that. Apparently that isn't the case, so I retract my miserly comment.

[the little guy]

Soooo if you broke it down hourly are you a lifetime winner?Let me get this straight from the very first nickle you ever wagered til now you have beaten this game?


It was pretty clear the first time....yes, I have made money over the course of my life by betting on horse races.

I'm sure there are plenty of things that have eluded you where others have succeded.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Played 8 years anything else...?

I was genuinely interested how it worked. Thank you for the answer. I may have more questions later, if that's okay with you.

[Saratoga_Mike]

another thing Spa Mike i trained this kid called Jason Heinrich...and yes hes might be a better hitter then Harper..look it up on you tube..I nicknamed him K9 will be a first rounder in 4 years..

I haven't followed baseball since Mattingly was playing first for the Yankees, so I'm not doubting any of this.

[only11]

It was pretty clear the first time....yes, I have made money over the course of my life by betting on horse races.

I'm sure there are plenty of things that have eluded you where others have succeded.
Eluded me..hmmm..cant think of anything..its entertainment to me,,ahtletes think they could beat anyone at any game programmed differently ...just because my opinion of a race is different then yours doesnt make you right does it?
I find it amusing i wonder how much baseball you know?

[Dahoss9698]

For the record you beat me Sunday with two scratched favorites winning. On your own picks you didn't. Good luck rest of the way..

I know your being sarcastic.. :D ..

No, not sarcastic. Was just being realistic about how you "beat me" on Sunday.

[only11]

Amigo the bottom line is...it is what it is..

[the little guy]

Eluded me..hmmm..cant think of anything..its entertainment to me,,ahtletes think they could beat anyone at any game programmed differently ...just because my opinion of a race is different then yours doesnt make you right does it?
I find it amusing i wonder how much baseball you know?

I know a great deal more about the business of baseball than you as well.

So what?

[only11]

I know a great deal more about the business of baseball than you as well.

So what?
You know more baseball business then me?you know the yankees business thats what you know..i think you better keep your day job no offense..
Let me ask you if teams are receiving money from the luxury tax how come you see so many bad teams in baseball...?
I know this answer i got it from steinbrenner,,,i also instruct sheffield 7 year old son,i also instruct Darren Gooden Dwight Goodens son(we won the Ripken World series last year Google it),i also have worked out with the juice guys in san pedro,dominican..Me and Manny Ramirez talk at least 4 times a month...i helped opened a night club with Vladamir Guerro in tampa...I instructed the Yankees players from Santa Domingo 4 years ago who were signed @ 16 years old,they stayed @ the BW hotel off the Causeway..i was babysitting steinbrenner signees..
Im sure you know the business more then me... :lol: and i got to eat with Arod at burns steakhouse last year while he was on Rehab assignment... :p

[the little guy]

You didn't need to prove to me that I knew more than you....but thanks anyway.

[cj]

You know more baseball business then me?you know the yankees business thats what you know..i think you better keep your day job no offense..
Let me ask you if teams are receiving money from the luxury tax how come you see so many bad teams in baseball...?
I know this answer i got it from steinbrenner,,,i also instruct sheffield 7 year old son,i also instruct Darren Gooden Dwight Goodens son(we won the Ripken World series last year Google it),i also have worked out with the juice guys in san pedro,dominican..Me and Manny Ramirez talk at least 4 times a month...i helped opened a night club with Vladamir Guerro in tampa...I instructed the Yankees players from Santa Domingo 4 years ago who were signed @ 16 years old,they stayed @ the BW hotel off the Causeway..i was babysitting steinbrenner signees..
Im sure you know the business more then me... :lol: and i got to eat with Arod at burns steakhouse last year while he was on Rehab assignment... :p

Why would you assume his info is Yankee related? You would be wrong, of course, but feel free to just make assumptions than post page long responses based on them.

(I see you edited that part out, at least you got something right.)

[Robert Goren]

You know more baseball business then me?you know the yankees business thats what you know..i think you better keep your day job no offense..
Let me ask you if teams are receiving money from the luxury tax how come you see so many bad teams in baseball...?
I know this answer i got it from steinbrenner,,,i also instruct sheffield 7 year old son,i also instruct Darren Gooden Dwight Goodens son(we won the Ripken World series last year Google it),i also have worked out with the juice guys in san pedro,dominican..Me and Manny Ramirez talk at least 4 times a month...i helped opened a night club with Vladamir Guerro in tampa...I instructed the Yankees players from Santa Domingo 4 years ago who were signed @ 16 years old,they stayed @ the BW hotel off the Causeway..i was babysitting steinbrenner signees..
Im sure you know the business more then me... :lol: and i got to eat with Arod at burns steakhouse last year while he was on Rehab assignment... :pOK, I know I am taking a big risk here. Is there anything you haven't done?;)

[Pell Mell]

OK, I know I am taking a big risk here. Is there anything you haven't done?;)

Picked a decent winner?

[atlasaxis]

attitude is everthing..learned in the minors and bigs...Its who you are..roses dont have thorns...thorns have roses..its how you look at it...
Does Dahoss know more about racing then me..yep...but it doesnt mean hes better..I complimented him when he whiped me on saturday..i came back and won Sunday granted i had some luck but you need it in this game..
Attitude!!!

Small poster I have up on my office wall:


ATTITUDEby: Charles SwindollThe longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life.

Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home.

The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude... I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

And so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes.

[thaskalos]

Small poster I have up on my office wall:


















ATTITUDEby: Charles SwindollThe longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life.









Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home.

The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude... I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

And so it is with you... we are in charge of our attitudes.









IMO, man is a machine, and his reactions to the situations of life are largly...automatic.Our "attitude" has been established over a very long period of time...and it does not change overnight. Many of us have read an inspiring book, or attended a "life-changing" seminar...and we thought that we would "change" as a result...

A week or two later...we are right back where we started from.

Lasting attitude changes only come about, after a great deal of effort.

[only11]

Picked a decent winner?
Go read some of my post..i think i had a few winners actually i have some members pm me and complimented me on my picks

[only11]

You didn't need to prove to me that I knew more than you....but thanks anyway.
What can you possibly know?Whether its the yankees or not..
First and foremost baseball players dont swing at baseballs i bet you knew that..
heres another thing... let me take you to school hitters track the ball from far to near they never track it from the pitchers hand...its like watching a plane from far...it looks slow from afar but its travelling at 750 mph..i know you knew that....
and yes i know more baseball then you 7 days a week 2x on sundays....
Please answer my luxury tax question.?

[only11]

OK, I know I am taking a big risk here. Is there anything you haven't done?;)
Havent hit a pick six,,but im sure OUR LIFETIME WINNER LITTLE GUY HAS!Aint no one convincing me hes beat the horses in his lifetime..nope aint buying it..

[the little guy]

Havent hit a pick six,,but im sure OUR LIFETIME WINNER LITTLE GUY HAS!Aint no one convincing me hes beat the horses in his lifetime..nope aint buying it..


I've hit more than a few Pick-6s but only two paid over $100K.

You really are funny. I couldn't imagine caring less what you think or believe.

[only11]

Picked a decent winner?
Im going to take this wild guess..YOU HAVE BEATEN THE RACES IN YOUR LIFETIME...!

[only11]

I've hit more than a few Pick-6s but only two paid over $100K.

You really are funny. I couldn't imagine caring less what you think or believe.
$100,000 i believe you,and i respect your knowledge of the game...but i didnt appreciate your cheap shots everytime i posted anything about racing...got knews for you theres a whole of cappers that are alot better then you,,just like theres was alot of pitchers better then me..
im sure at one point in the 90's you paid to watch a game i pitched or played in..
Theres a old italian proverb..AT THE END OF THE GAME THE QUEEN AND PAWN GO IN THE SAME BOX!
News for you we are all equal...

[Saratoga_Mike]

$100,000 i believe you,and i respect your knowledge of the game...but i didnt appreciate your cheap shots everytime i posted anything about racing...got knews for you theres a whole of cappers that are alot better then you,,just like theres was alot of pitchers better then me..
im sure at one point in the 90's you paid to watch a game i pitched or played in..
Theres a old italian proverb..AT THE END OF THE GAME THE QUEEN AND PAWN GO IN THE SAME BOX!
News for you we are all equal...

Alla fine del gioco, il pedone e il re vanno nella stessa scatola. King, not queen.

[PaceAdvantage]

Come for the contest, stay for the trash talk!

And some people think this shouldn't go down like this... :faint:

[tzipi]

What can you possibly know?Whether its the yankees or not..
First and foremost baseball players dont swing at baseballs i bet you knew that..

What do they swing at?

[newtothegame]

What do they swing at?

A spot ?

[only11]

A spot ?
Bingo they swing @ where they think the ball is going

[only11]

The hitter doesnt have enough time to load his arms and shoulders to hit a 93mph fastball,he has to start his swing alot sooner..as soon as the pitcher loads his scapula(Take a close look at Strasburg back when he breaks his arms)the hitter starts to load..
a major league hitter can hit a fastball with his eyes close from 10ft away
By that time he has started his swing and he already has anticipated where he THINKS IS GOING..
Thats why Strasburg is the best pitcher ever drafted..his late movement @98mph makes it impoosible to hit,then he throws a knee bender at 88mph..
Example:If your watching a nascar race would you wait to see your car when crossing in front of you..or your going to TRACK IT from far and slow it down?
MLB hitters do the same,,Bonds would track it from left center,Pujols from dead center,thats why you hardly ever saw a bad swing,there tracking skills are filthy..Hard to learn harder to teach..

[tzipi]

Bingo they swing @ where they think the ball is going


What about MLB players who say they "picked up the pitch late" when talking about a HR or hit in a post game interview. Obviously their watching the ball then and adapted to where it was going. Coaches tell you to keep you eye on the ball all the way.

I think if batters just swung at a "guessed" spot they thought it was going on the plate everytime,you'd see so many MLB players swinging at ridiculous places that the ball is not even close to. Like a high-outside pitch goes across and the player is swing down and inside. Would look pretty funny and you'd hear so much laughter from the announcers every game. Players bats are always close to the pitch even when they miss. Everyone can't be guessing right 99% of the time whether they hit it or not. JMO

[Dahoss9698]

Go read some of my post..i think i had a few winners actually i have some members pm me and complimented me on my picks

Didn't I call this pm stuff days ago?

[Hedevar]

Go read some of my post..i think i had a few winners actually i have some members pm me and complimented me on my picks

Care to comment on some of the other pms. For complete disclosure I never pmed you.

[only11]

Never mentioned you im talking about others members on this forum,on previous picks..

[only11]

What about MLB players who say they "picked up the pitch late" when talking about a HR or hit in a post game interview. Obviously their watching the ball then and adapted to where it was going. Coaches tell you to keep you eye on the ball all the way.

I think if batters just swung at a "guessed" spot they thought it was going on the plate everytime,you'd see so many MLB players swinging at ridiculous places that the ball is not even close to. Like a high-outside pitch goes across and the player is swing down and inside. Would look pretty funny and you'd hear so much laughter from the announcers every game. Players bats are always close to the pitch even when they miss. Everyone can't be guessing right 99% of the time whether they hit it or not. JMO
They dont have to time to adjust..the ball is travelling at 93mph..take a close look at some video in slow motion...most major league hitters dont know how to explain it...thats why they hit the ball 3 out of 10 times

[TheBid9]

They dont have to time to adjust..the ball is travelling at 93mph..take a close look at some video in slow motion...most major league hitters dont know how to explain it...thats why they hit the ball 3 out of 10 times


If they're lucky!!!

[tzipi]

They dont have to time to adjust..the ball is travelling at 93mph..take a close look at some video in slow motion...most major league hitters dont know how to explain it...thats why they hit the ball 3 out of 10 times

Not all pitches in a game are 90-100 MPH fastballs. You have change ups,sliders,curves,sinkers,etc. Only Fastballs travel fast(90+ to 100). Just based on my opinion and from me playing and also from what MLB batters say in post game interviews.

[tzipi]

Thats why they hit the ball 3 out of 10 times

Well,not true at all. You should know this as a big baseball guy. Players hit more than 3 out of every 10 balls. They're are fielders in the field who get them out mostly after they hit the ball. I dont know how you can say they only hit 3 out of every 10 balls. That than means every player should be hitting under.100 because if only 3 out of 10 balls are hit,that means the other two balls by very good chance will be fielded. You'd have 95% of the league hitting .100 or a little more at best.

[only11]

I meant batting average...Tzip are you saying they could start there swing when the ball is 10ft away thats impossible,i know for a fact there swing is on its way as soon as the ball leaves the pitchers hand..
The little league coach whos a (parent) and says keep the eye on the baseball doesnt know what hes talking about.
once there bat is in motion they never stop ...the hitter doesnt have any time..the idea of a off speed pitch is A.to interrupt there timing.B.Change the hitters eye plane of the ball..

[tzipi]

I meant batting average...Tzip are you saying they could start there swing when the ball is 10ft away thats impossible,i know for a fact there swing is on its way as soon as the ball leaves the pitchers hand..
The little league coach whos a (parent) and says keep the eye on the baseball doesnt know what hes talking about.
once there bat is in motion they never stop ...the hitter doesnt have any time..the idea of a off speed pitch is A.to interrupt there timing.B.Change the hitters eye plane of the ball..

No of course not. They swing as the pitcher is throwing but they track the baseball. You don't guess a spot. You'd have 80% of players swinging WAY OFF where the pitch actually is and they would all look funny. Baseball players always pretty much swing where the picth is whether they hit it or not. They track it. Not every picth is a 95-100 MPH fastball.

"The little league coach who tells kids to keep their eye on the ball has no idea what they are talking about" Wow.

[Saratoga_Mike]

"Try to watch the pitcher's hand and keep your eye on the ball." -Manny Mota on hitting, 1962 to 1982 - lifetime batting avg .304.

[newtothegame]

No of course not. They swing as the pitcher is throwing but they track the baseball. You don't guess a spot. You'd have 80% of players swinging WAY OFF where the pitch actually is and they would all look funny. Baseball players always pretty much swing where the picth is whether they hit it or not. They track it. Not every picth is a 95-100 MPH fastball.

"The little league coach who tells kids to keep their eye on the ball has no idea what they are talking about" Wow.

Actually, in my opinion, its an "educated" guess. Hitters Only makes it sound as though the hitter has "no chance" and that is wrong too if thats what he is implying.

A hitter begins to "build" into the swing as the pitcher is nearing the top of his release. As the ball is released, the hitter (depending on shadows and lighting etc etc) can actually pick up rotation and then make that educated guess.

But the energy is already built into the swing...motion started...but the swing can be adjusted slightly (to foul off a pitch etc etc).

Only is right in the fact that if the hitter is wrong though (not being able to pick up rotation etc etc) he will look like a complete fool at the plate (either way out in front or behind). Or in some cases, just stand there wondering "what happened" lol

[tzipi]

Actually, in my opinion, its an "educated" guess. Hitters Only makes it sound as though the hitter has "no chance" and that is wrong too if thats what he is implying.

A hitter begins to "build" into the swing as the pitcher is nearing the top of his release. As the ball is released, the hitter (depending on shadows and lighting etc etc) can actually pick up rotation and then make that educated guess.

But the energy is already built into the swing...motion started...but the swing can be adjusted slightly (to foul off a pitch etc etc).

Only is right in the fact that if the hitter is wrong though (not being able to pick up rotation etc etc) he will look like a complete fool at the plate (either way out in front or behind). Or in some cases, just stand there wondering "what happened" lol

Oh I agree,most are in front or behind the pitch but they do pick up where it's going and swing at the ball while watching it. It's not just a blind guess swing at some random spot they pick. Enjoy ;)

[only11]

Actually, in my opinion, its an "educated" guess. Hitters Only makes it sound as though the hitter has "no chance" and that is wrong too if thats what he is implying.

A hitter begins to "build" into the swing as the pitcher is nearing the top of his release. As the ball is released, the hitter (depending on shadows and lighting etc etc) can actually pick up rotation and then make that educated guess.

But the energy is already built into the swing...motion started...but the swing can be adjusted slightly (to foul off a pitch etc etc).

Only is right in the fact that if the hitter is wrong though (not being able to pick up rotation etc etc) he will look like a complete fool at the plate (either way out in front or behind). Or in some cases, just stand there wondering "what happened" lol
1000 percent correct!

[Grits]

Jeez, Only11. This is yours and Dahoss's thread. But wasn't it supposed to be about you guys going against one another with your handicapping selections? Wasn't that the challenge? Dh posted the standings on page 4. Now its up to 9 pages--about everything but . . . . selections. These picks are weekend contest and there's good interest in the competition between the two of you--but PLEASE, make this easier to follow. Five pages of talking trash and baseball each week is gonna be rough.

[garyscpa]

J...-but PLEASE, make this easier to follow. Five pages of talking trash and baseball each week is gonna be rough.

How else are they going to keep the ratings up? :D

[Grits]

How else are they going to keep the ratings up? :D

Good point, I reckon. But it'll take an hour to find the current standings from one weekend to the next.:lol:

[only11]

Understood..granted!

[GaryG]

Maybe two separate threads, one for the standings and the other for the posturing and bravado.

[Dahoss9698]

Saturday July 24th

Saratoga

6th- :6:
9th- :1:
10th- :2:

Monmouth

5th- :1:
6th- :3:
10th- :7:
12th- :1:

Woodbine

2nd- :5:

Del Mar

2nd- :2:
6th- :10:

[only11]

Saturday July 24th

Saratoga

6th- :6:
9th- :1:
10th- :2:

Monmouth

5th- :1:
6th- :3:
10th- :7:
12th- :1:

Woodbine

2nd- :5:

Del Mar

2nd- :2:
6th- :10:
Im surprised RA wasnt one of your picks

[only11]

After my BB won @ SPA yesterday(stakes race)Read the thread WHOS GOING TO WIN THE JOCKEY TITLE AT SPA? POST #9... it may be im heating up sooo im staying with the spa..

1- :5:
2- :1:
3-:6:
4- :9:
5- :8:
6- :11:
7- :1:
8- :1:
9- :4: did like the 1 but he posted first go with my second choice.
10- :7:
Dahoss may all your photos be losing ones... :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Dahoss9698]

Keep talking...:sleeping:

[tucker6]

I hope that Only11 can make a comeback today to keep the interest level up. If he gets a beating like he did last week, the ref may have to call this fight a TKO. If 11 loses big this weekend, he'll have to take longer shots next week, and that's a losing proposition, barring luck.

[only11]

Tucker my friend...lets not pencil Dahoss in Spa's hall of fame yet,,he won sat..i won sun...but its still early got til Aug 22 to make a Zenyatta move ...im just loping along..

[Hedevar]

only11,

Perhaps you should give your bullpen Forms and darts and let them make your selections. They couldn't do worse.

[only11]

my horses in the first 3 races ran well..then i had 3 scratches..Zonga Zing was up against it..nothing phases me dude,,theres tomorrow...i have been behind before..by the way i had a nice win bet on yesterdays stakes race read thread WHOS GOING TO WIN JOCKEY TITLE AT SPA>>read post #9..im ok
By the way Dahoss is 1 for 8 today..

[Tee]

By the way Dahoss is 1 for 8 today..

You see the results of Mth race 10?

[GaryG]

You see the results of Mth race 10?Dahoss....that one was a beauty.....:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[tucker6]

Has 11 conceded this contest yet??

[PaceAdvantage]

Dahoss....that one was a beauty.....:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:A $41.60 scorcher...won with ease...great pick Dahoss!

[Rise Over Run]

I keep sending PMs to Only11 that his picks are great. Is this helping????

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Robert Fischer]

you knuckleheadz don't know baseball...

[Dahoss9698]

Saturday July 24th

Saratoga

6th- :6: 11th
9th- :1: 4th
10th- :2: 10th

Monmouth

5th- :1: 3rd
6th- :3: 8th
10th- :7: 1st $41.60 to win $16.80 to place
12th- :1: 4th

Woodbine

2nd- :5: 4th

Del Mar

2nd- :2: 2nd $4.60 to place
6th- :10: 1st $15.20 to win $6.60 to place





1- :5: 2nd $4.60 to place
2- :1: 4th
3-:6: 3rd
4- :9: SCR.....favorite 4th
5- :8: SCR...favorite 7th
6- :11: 4th
7- :1: 6th
8- :1: 3rd
9- :4: SCR...favorite 1st $3.40 to win $2.40 to place
10-:7: 8th




Day 3 Totals

Dahoss- $40 wagered $84.80 returned
Contest Total- $120 wagered $193.30 returned

Only11- $40 wagered $10.40 returned
Contest Total- $120 wagered $76.20 returned

[Dahoss9698]

Dahoss....that one was a beauty.....:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

A $41.60 scorcher...won with ease...great pick Dahoss!

Thanks guys

[only11]

only11,

Perhaps you should give your bullpen Forms and darts and let them make your selections. They couldn't do worse.
In other words do what you do?

[only11]

The reason i played in the big leagues was because i had a very short memory,its amazing i give out fridays winner at spa(20.00) and no one says anything Dahoss comes up witha 40.00 winner and now hes abeled the chosen one.. :lol:
Boy didnt know there was so much venom towards me..great..he will hit his wall but this is what i wonder.....if he played those picks...
i had a bad day at Spa butt i had HOT VISION at Arlington and the exacta,,now i didnt post the pick because i came up with the horse after 12:30..No excuses and if anyone doubts me i will send them a pm with my twinspires username and password....
No excuses ...if i lose like i said i will leave and donate my $100....and im still going to talk ...why because this is entertaiment and fun...!

[Hedevar]

In other words do what you do?

No, I don't have a bullpen so I use a different method. I have friends blindfold me, spin me around three times and then I pin a tail on my selection. It has worked well for me, perhaps you should give it a try.

[only11]

No, I don't have a bullpen so I use a different method. I have friends blindfold me, spin me around three times and then I pin a tail on my selection. It has worked well for me, perhaps you should give it a try.
Let me guess you to are lifetime winner?

[Hedevar]

Let me guess you to are lifetime winner?

Actually I am not. I did retire a little earlier than most, but that was because of my profession. I am able to hold my own with some good horseplayers but was never able to make a living betting horses.

[only11]

Actually I am not. I did retire a little earlier than most, but that was because of my profession. I am able to hold my own with some good horseplayers but was never able to make a living betting horses.
Hedevar what was your profession ?Im asking this question to you....do you really think people could make a living playing horses?...BS little Guy claims hes a lifetime winner ...i almost fell off my chair...of course he will tell you the 19.60 winner and then he goes 4 for 34,,,
We all have our days some more then others...if you hit a pick 6 for 300,000 it shouldnt be one of your best lifetime moments if it is then something went wrong in your life..
Heres a story....Mack Brown football coach at Texas had just won his 1st national championship when beating USC...he was interviewed the next day and 1 of the questions was"Mack you won your 1st national Cahampionship beating the heavly favored USC this has to be in your top 3 moments in your life?"Mack responded if you hit a bottom of the 9th hr to win a WS,a game winning shot to win a championship, a final drive to win a SB and you considered that moment.. one of your top 3 lifetime moments,then something went drastically wrong in your life....and IMO i agree 100% ...
Mike Mussina told me playing baseball isnt a big deal to him neither is the HOF it doesnt define who i am my family does...i get paid to play baseball think about that for a moment..he went on to say
YOUR LEGACY IS DEFINE ON HOW EASY YOU LEAVE IT FOR OTHERS WHEN YOUR GONE....
Dahoss has his days just like others ..you have your days like others..im having fun with it..but it isnt going to break me..very few things bother me and me losing to DAhoss in a PA handicapping contest aint one of them..I will donate more then $100 to his charity,,IF I lose..once you quit its hard to learn how to stop..enjoy your day at the races :cool: :cool:

[lamboguy]

Day 3 Totals

Dahoss- $40 wagered $84.80 returned
Contest Total- $120 wagered $193.30 returned

Only11- $40 wagered $10.40 returned
Contest Total- $120 wagered $76.20 returned
nice pick at monmouth dahoss. i have to give you alot of credit, you do your work. the only thing i want to point out to you is that the $41.00 horse is something like a an 8-1 shot before the race. a matter of fact the horse left the gate @14-1 and came home @19-1. but still an excellent pick. and i know that yesterday in the morning that you never thought that horse was going to pay $40 in your wildest imagination. i am glad you picked up the cheese with that one!

[only11]

Staying @ the Spa...

1st-#- :3:
3rd-#- :5:
4th-# :9:
5th-# :12:
6th-# :9:
7th-# :5:
8th-# :5:
10th-# :2:


Monmouth

1st-# :3:
12-# :5:

Im making a move today to close the gap...Ice in my veins...
Good luck today Dahoss seems like everyone else forgets your other 8 losers in the day...you hit a 40.00 horse and all of a sudden you should be on the Talking Horses.... :lol: :lol:

[Hedevar]

Hedevar what was your profession ?Im asking this question to you....do you really think people could make a living playing horses?...BS little Guy claims hes a lifetime winner ...i almost fell off my chair...of course he will tell you the 19.60 winner and then he goes 4 for 34,,,
We all have our days some more then others...if you hit a pick 6 for 300,000 it shouldnt be one of your best lifetime moments if it is then something went wrong in your life..
Heres a story....Mack Brown football coach at Texas had just won his 1st national championship when beating USC...he was interviewed the next day and 1 of the questions was"Mack you won your 1st national Cahampionship beating the heavly favored USC this has to be in your top 3 moments in your life?"Mack responded if you hit a bottom of the 9th hr to win a WS,a game winning shot to win a championship, a final drive to win a SB and you considered that moment.. one of your top 3 lifetime moments,then something went drastically wrong in your life....and IMO i agree 100% ...
Mike Mussina told me playing baseball isnt a big deal to him neither is the HOF it doesnt define who i am my family does...i get paid to play baseball think about that for a moment..he went on to say
YOUR LEGACY IS DEFINE ON HOW EASY YOU LEAVE IT FOR OTHERS WHEN YOUR GONE....
Dahoss has his days just like others ..you have your days like others..im having fun with it..but it isnt going to break me..very few things bother me and me losing to DAhoss in a PA handicapping contest aint one of them..I will donate more then $100 to his charity,,IF I lose..once you quit its hard to learn how to stop..enjoy your day at the races :cool: :cool:

only11,

I understand your question but for me that question is a little too personal. What I did was totally legal and between the Government and me. However I will say I am proud of what I did.

I do believe there are people who make a living betting horses because I know some. I also know it is hard work and they go through losing streaks like all horseplayers. When that occurs they are not happy people because their livelihood depends on winning. It is a tough way to make a living but it can be done. However, it is more than a full time job and a good percentage are not the most personable people on earth.

[only11]

only11,

I understand your question but for me that question is a little too personal. What I did was totally legal and between the Government and me. However I will say I am proud of what I did.

I do believe there are people who make a living betting horses because I know some. I also know it is hard work and they go through losing streaks like all horseplayers. When that occurs they are not happy people because their livelihood depends on winning. It is a tough way to make a living but it can be done. However, it is more than a full time job and a good percentage are not the most personable people on earth.
Boy aint that the truth miserable horseplayers who live under pressure everyday,no insurance,retirement,depending on jockeys,and trainersYOU COULD HAVE IT.

[Dahoss9698]

Im making a move today to close the gap...Ice in my veins...
Good luck today Dahoss seems like everyone else forgets your other 8 losers in the day...you hit a 40.00 horse and all of a sudden you should be on the Talking Horses.... :lol: :lol:

I have to admit, I'm shocked you are still talking. Don't get me wrong....it's very amusing. But at some point you would think pride would set in, guess not.

I'm also sort of amused you questioned whether or not I bet these horses. Classic stuff. Like I said, keep talking...it makes it all the more pleasurable when I'm tallying up the scores.

[Dahoss9698]

Sunday July 25th

Del Mar

8th- :5:

Monmouth

3rd- :1:
7th- :5:
8th- :5:
11th- :4:

Saratoga

1st- :7:
2nd- :2:
6th- :11:
8th- :6:
10th- :7:

[only11]

I have to admit, I'm shocked you are still talking. Don't get me wrong....it's very amusing. But at some point you would think pride would set in, guess not.

I'm also sort of amused you questioned whether or not I bet these horses. Classic stuff. Like I said, keep talking...it makes it all the more pleasurable when I'm tallying up the scores.
Shocked why..since you like to paste my quotes why dont you copy and paste your roi from your adws.
Im behind 117.00...no biggie...

[only11]

you knuckleheadz don't know baseball...
Hey RF your funny...its almost like saying the ROUND BASEBALL COMES IN A SQUARE BOX....HUH?
Or i bet you knew there was such a thing as a first baseman balk... or you knew there was such a thing as a catchers balk...
Let me guess your another lifetime winner.. :lol: :lol:

[tucker6]

This is how I envisioned a Secretariat - Green Monkey match race....

[only11]

Hes only 117 ahead with 5 weekends to go....need a quick last quarter 11.. Spa after opening day has been tough...long way to go ..posting picks before 1230 is tough..so many things can happen...but im playing by his rules cus i decided to open my mouth...
It will be close///
Gotta believe Tucker... :cool: even Big Red lost 4 times

[tucker6]

Hes only 117 ahead with 5 weekends to go....need a quick last quarter 11.. Spa after opening day has been tough...long way to go ..posting picks before 1230 is tough..so many things can happen...but im playing by his rules cus i decided to open my mouth...
It will be close///
Gotta believe Tucker... :cool: even Big Red lost 4 times
Oh, don't worry, I believe a lot of things ...... :cool:

All this is in fun of course. You have the cahunas to go up against Dahoss, and I'll respect your stupidity for that. I guess my brain is bigger than your cahunas because I get to sit on the sidelines and chuckle.

[only11]

Oh, don't worry, I believe a lot of things ...... :cool:

All this is in fun of course. You have the cahunas to go up against Dahoss, and I'll respect your stupidity for that. I guess my brain is bigger than your cahunas because I get to sit on the sidelines and chuckle.
Tucker im playing into his game...no way posting picks by 1230 can you have a good grasp on any horse...too many things happen plus alot of my horses have bee scratch..im still willing to post my adw account numbers and i guarantee im beating him on profit..

[GaryG]

Tucker im playing into his game...no way posting picks by 1230 can you have a good grasp on any horse...too many things happen plus alot of my horses have bee scratch..im still willing to post my adw account numbers and i guarantee im beating him on profit..Is he not playing under the same conditions? If you don't want scratches you should play some other tracks besides Saratoga. Maybe you would do better at another venue. I can tell you this: winning players do not have the ego problems that you apparently have.

[tucker6]

winning players do not have the ego problems.
This is true in many walks of life. Those who know they're good and are good don't have to flaunt it. Everyone already knows it.

[only11]

Is he not playing under the same conditions? If you don't want scratches you should play some other tracks besides Saratoga. Maybe you would do better at another venue. I can tell you this: winning players do not have the ego problems that you apparently have.
A.i dont have a ego ...yep you could believe that.B.I said hes was playing under the same rules and if you read carefully its ok with me...C.i=he isnt humbling me,i talk and back it up...yep im having a rough time of it.....what im about to do is post the contest picks ,,,,then i will post my pick right before the race...
Example yesterday didnt post a pick from Arlington on the thread,,but i had a healthy win bet on Hot Vision and had the exacta a few times..a horse i capped from the previous race...
Its impossible odds change half the horses i wouldhve never bet at those,track condition,total chaos,
Im going to finish..but i will post my picks of races i wager right before the race...

[only11]

This is true in many walks of life. Those who know they're good and are good don't have to flaunt it. Everyone already knows it.
Not true,Beyer is good im sure he lets everyone know when he wins,im sure little guy lets us know how much he knows..
In any sport if your great you must have a ego,,,now flaunting it thats a different story..

[tucker6]

A.i dont have a ego ...yep you could believe that.B.I said hes was playing under the same rules and if you read carefully its ok with me...C.i=he isnt humbling me,i talk and back it up...yep im having a rough time of it.....what im about to do is post the contest picks ,,,,then i will post my pick right before the race...
Example yesterday didnt post a pick from Arlington on the thread,,but i had a healthy win bet on Hot Vision and had the exacta a few times..a horse i capped from the previous race...
Its impossible odds change half the horses i wouldhve never bet at those,track condition,total chaos,
Im going to finish..but i will post my picks of races i wager right before the race...
So, you're saying you would have done better under different rules. If so, why didn't you say that before the contest began?? You agreed to all of the rules without disagreement.

[only11]

because of my stubborness..and it is what it is...After watching this weekend its impossible..Like i said i will post my picks before the race..starting next weekend
By the way The Rangers will win the Al League.

[only11]

So, you're saying you would have done better under different rules. If so, why didn't you say that before the contest began?? You agreed to all of the rules without disagreement.
Maybe i will hold a press conference... :D

[tucker6]

By the way The Rangers will win the Al east.
I'll take that bet at any odds you choose to give.

[only11]

I'll take that bet at any odds you choose to give.
Must be a Yankee fan?Thay have 1 pitcher and no bullpen..the rangers have the best era in the AL and there bullpen is best..
2 things to win a pennant,you must hit the long ball and you must have a bullpen,,,Joba couldnt get my travel team out,and hughes is hitting the wall,take Vasquez he sucks and pettite is vulnerable against the rangers.

[tucker6]

Must be a Yankee fan?Thay have 1 pitcher and no bullpen..the rangers have the best era in the AL and there bullpen is best..
2 things to win a pennant,you must hit the long ball and you must have a bullpen,,,Joba couldnt get my travel team out,and hughes is hitting the wall,take Vasquez he sucks and pettite is vulnerable against the rangers.
Actually I'm a Mets fan, but like the Yankees as well. However, that's not what got my excitement level up. It will take quite a bit of help for the Rangers to be crowned AL East champs. Don't you think??

[only11]

I'll take that bet at any odds you choose to give.
And my Rays cant hit..or pitch..neiman is ok shields sucks,Garza sucks,and Davis sucks,Longo hits into more DP then any 3rd baseman in the league,And Maddon thinks hes invented baseball.Crawford wants out and Bj is gone,pena couldnt hit water if he fell of a boat in the middle of the ocean..

[only11]

Actually I'm a Mets fan, but like the Yankees as well. However, that's not what got my excitement level up. It will take quite a bit of help for the Rangers to be crowned AL East champs. Don't you think??
Tucker im a met fan the team drafted me 2x and Darren Gooden Docs Son i instruct,,by the way hes a absolute stud in football.this kid is from his 1st marriage...
Fire Omar needs to go, young GMs are taking over the game..the young guns,theo,friedman etc,,,
fire manuel,and trade pelfrey and let go of beltran.. ike davis is magadan in 3 years,there farm system is down..
Look up Boras players how many were juicing? Beltran was on the stuff he broke down last year his knees..the mets are a mess..

[GaryG]

Im going to finish..but i will post my picks of races i wager right before the race...You might do better if you waited until after the races are over to make your picks.

[PaceAdvantage]

Only11 scratched into one chalk winner today....

Dahoss scratched into a bigger chalk winner, and then had a $29 winner in the eighth at Saratoga...the man is on FIRE....plus he has one more race to go at DMR...

[cj]

nice pick at monmouth dahoss. i have to give you alot of credit, you do your work. the only thing i want to point out to you is that the $41.00 horse is something like a an 8-1 shot before the race. a matter of fact the horse left the gate @14-1 and came home @19-1. but still an excellent pick. and i know that yesterday in the morning that you never thought that horse was going to pay $40 in your wildest imagination. i am glad you picked up the cheese with that one!

Just catching up. Dude, that happens ALL THE TIME, longshots go up.

[Grits]

Only11 scratched into one chalk winner today....

Dahoss scratched into a bigger chalk winner, and then had a $29 winner in the eighth at Saratoga...the man is on FIRE....plus he has one more race to go at DMR...

LOLOL He is doing an outstanding job of making mincemeat out of poor Only.

Only, don't throw away your baseball glove, 'cause its a fact, I don't care who has told you what--if your eating were dependent on your handicapping--you'd be starving, darlin'.:lol:

You're a legend in your own mind. LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLL

[lamboguy]

Just catching up. Dude, that happens ALL THE TIME, longshots go up.i got a funny feeling that there were a few people in the know on that horse that masacred a few off shore bookmakers. keep in mind that the bookmakers have limits on the odds that they pay on a horse. from the old days in vegas it used to be 20-1 for win. this one was very close to the limit. how they got this one to pay $40 is beyond me. my incremental odds line had it at 7-1. the people in the dutrow camp are pretty sharp dudes and love to take down scores. i was very fortunate to be on this one.

[Kimsus]

How do we know the one that losses this contest doesn't just create a new user name and rejoin the forum? People using mulitple user names on a site wouldn't be a first.

[JustRalph]

How do we know the one that losses this contest doesn't just create a new user name and rejoin the forum? People using mulitple user names on a site wouldn't be a first.

ever heard of an IP address ? :bang:

Google it

[Kimsus]

ever heard of an IP address ? :bang:

Google it

You are assuming it is logged or was that a guess? What about wireless networks Einstein?

[Dahoss9698]

So let me get this straight. It's impossible to pick winners when the horses need to be posted by 12:30? With the exception of the west coast tracks, all of the scratches for the tracks we have been playing are in well before (like an hour...at least) 12:30.

What is so impossible about this? Lots of excuses for some really poor handicapping.

[Dahoss9698]

You are assuming it is logged or was that a guess? What about wireless networks Einstein?

Wow

[willphorse]

Only11 will bash you saying you hit only 2 winners yesterday, and only 1 of your selections Won today... yet, Dahoss has shown a profit EVERYDAY except 1 (Was like $0.10 Short).

In my personal opinion, PROFIT is what counts, and although early, it may be LONG over. Excellent capping Dahoss.

[JustRalph]

You are assuming it is logged or was that a guess? What about wireless networks Einstein?

your wireless network has the same IP as your non wireless connection, and it logged by the server here at PA

unless only11 is going to start driving around from Starbucks to Starbucks just to post on Paceadvantage.............

[PaceAdvantage]

How do we know the one that losses this contest doesn't just create a new user name and rejoin the forum? People using mulitple user names on a site wouldn't be a first.Why should you care either way?

[only11]

LOLOL He is doing an outstanding job of making mincemeat out of poor Only.

Only, don't throw away your baseball glove, 'cause its a fact, I don't care who has told you what--if your eating were dependent on your handicapping--you'd be starving, darlin'.:lol:

You're a legend in your own mind. LOLOLLLLLLLLLLLL
Actually i work for a living and i get a pension ...and you can count on both hands whos makes a living at the track.

[only11]

Why should you care either way?
Pa you love to trash me,,,when i opened that door..
This is entertainment to me...
Im about to post my ADW numbers up that will really shut some of your followers...
Dahoss beating me means nothing...it means he won...he didnt shut me up hes a lifetime loser at the track like me and most people..
If you carefully read my posts i have tipped my hat to him plenty of times..But its ok at the end of the contest if i lose i have no problem leaving and donating my $200 doubled it its for a good cause..

[only11]

How do we know the one that losses this contest doesn't just create a new user name and rejoin the forum? People using mulitple user names on a site wouldn't be a first.
Kimsus the reason i will walk away if i lose without going into another username is because i honor my word...racing is a great game members on this forum are great people ..but it isnt my life..i =f i lose i will miss posting but life does goes on....
Plus after this contest is over i will have a surprise..enjoy your day at the spa..

[Kimsus]

I'm just pointing out the obvious, I'm not casting doubt on anyone's sincerity to leave a forum, I've seen message boards from DRF to this one and it is my experience people will always find a way to post. They rarely leave forever.

[Kimsus]

Kimsus the reason i will walk away if i lose without going into another username is because i honor my word...racing is a great game members on this forum are great people ..but it isnt my life..i =f i lose i will miss posting but life does goes on....
Plus after this contest is over i will have a surprise..enjoy your day at the spa..

It only takes a few big hits to get back into it, trust me it happens, keep plugging. The key is looking for value in races.

[Kimsus]

Why should you care either way?

Personally I think it is a silly contest since you asked my opinion, if one wanted to prove their superiority for a month span in handicapping, then I would think that would be reward enough, but to throw in I am leaving a board for the loser seems like highschool stuff. We are all men I her and again I don't believe people can stay away forever, though that is my opinion and that is why I think the penalty is nonsensical.

[Kimsus]

your wireless network has the same IP as your non wireless connection, and it logged by the server here at PA

unless only11 is going to start driving around from Starbucks to Starbucks just to post on Paceadvantage.............

Not necessarily, I have access to 3 wireless networks where I am posting from right now, it's that easy.

[Kimsus]

Wow

There's that other contest, good pick with The Voss horse, I liked him also. Didn't like the Delmar pick though, 1st time turfer.

[BIG RED]

.... even Big Red lost 4 times

Not true...I have lost 7 wagers in my entire life.

[Dahoss9698]

Personally I think it is a silly contest since you asked my opinion, if one wanted to prove their superiority for a month span in handicapping, then I would think that would be reward enough, but to throw in I am leaving a board for the loser seems like highschool stuff. We are all men I her and again I don't believe people can stay away forever, though that is my opinion and that is why I think the penalty is nonsensical.

I never asked or wanted him to leave here. I realize it's a pain to go back and read this thread, but I have said many times I have no desire for him to leave and still don't.

[Dahoss9698]

Pa you love to trash me,,,when i opened that door..
This is entertainment to me...
Im about to post my ADW numbers up that will really shut some of your followers...
Dahoss beating me means nothing...it means he won...he didnt shut me up hes a lifetime loser at the track like me and most people..
If you carefully read my posts i have tipped my hat to him plenty of times..But its ok at the end of the contest if i lose i have no problem leaving and donating my $200 doubled it its for a good cause..

You keep coming back with this lifetime winner/loser stuff. What does it have to do with anything? You keep harping on you ADW stuff as though that will shut everyone up. The reality is you are the one that needs to shut up. It's like 3 weeks overdue already.

[Hedevar]

I never asked or wanted him to leave here. I realize it's a pain to go back and read this thread, but I have said many times I have no desire for him to leave and still don't.

The original bet was that you(Dahoss) would leave the board if you lost and only11 would donate $100.00 to a breast cancer charity if he lost. If my recollection is correct.

[Kimsus]

I never asked or wanted him to leave here. I realize it's a pain to go back and read this thread, but I have said many times I have no desire for him to leave and still don't.

We have had our battles and really if you look back it was fun, I suspect we even relished it. It doesn't mean I want you to leave or anyone else for that matter, a public forum is a place where you interact and exchange ideas.

[Dahoss9698]

We have had our battles and really if you look back it was fun, I suspect we even relished it. It doesn't mean I want you to leave or anyone else for that matter, a public forum is a place where you interact and exchange ideas.

I don't know about it being fun, but I get what you are saying. Again, I'm not asking for him to leave if I win. I never did. He wants me to leave and if he beats me I will. No big deal.

But even you would have to admit he's ridiculous with this lifetime winner stuff and all of the excuses. Put up or shut up. So far he's not putting up and not shutting up. How does that work?

[Dahoss9698]

Sunday July 25th

Del Mar

8th- :5: 5th

Monmouth

3rd- :1: 3rd
7th- :5: 3rd
8th- :5: 5th
11th- :4: SCR....favorite wins $7.40 to win $4.80 to place

Saratoga

1st- :7: 4th
2nd- :2: 5th
6th- :11: 3rd
8th- :6: 1st $29 to win $12.40 to place
10th- :7: 4th






Staying @ the Spa...

1st-#- :3: 5th
3rd-#- :5: 7th
4th-# :9: 2nd $5.70 to place
5th-# :12: SCR....favorite wins $5.10 to win $3.10 to place
6th-# :9: 6th
7th-# :5: SCR....favorite 2nd $3.60 to place
8th-# :5: 9th
10th-# :2: 7th


Monmouth

1st-# :3: 5th
12-# :5: 4th




Day 4 totals

Dahoss- $40 wagered $53.60 returned
Contest Total- $160 wagered $246.90 returned

Only11- $40 wagered $17.50 returned
Contest Total- $160 wagered $93.70 returned

[lamboguy]

good work again today dahoss. i looked up all your selections and realise that you put alot of work in to get them. your selections are real and top quality.

the only thing i can say that is missing is knowing the physicality of the horses that you select at 12:30 in the afternoon that run at 5:00. if you had that tool at your disposal you would really have something there with the combination of your selections and looks.

[JustRalph]

Not necessarily, I have access to 3 wireless networks where I am posting from right now, it's that easy.

There is more to this story than just looking for IP addresses also. But only having 3 IP's would be picked up pretty quick. You realize that IP address info is available right down to the street it is coming from right? Neighborhood info is available also. This would be a discussion for PA to have.......he is an expert at spotting retreads...........

[willphorse]

Here is some constructive criticism for Only11.... If you are going to make a comeback.... worry more about handicapping and less about talking baseball with the world. It seems as though you are more interested in PROVING you are a good handicapper by posting your ADW account and all that, or how important you used to be in the BIG LEAGUES.... instead of letting your handicapping do the talking like Dahoss is doing.

Just Handicap. Don't talk smack, Don't talk baseball, Don't tell us how good you are. Just Handicap, and Post selections.

[castaway01]

Hedevar what was your profession ?Im asking this question to you....do you really think people could make a living playing horses?...BS little Guy claims hes a lifetime winner ...i almost fell off my chair...of course he will tell you the 19.60 winner and then he goes 4 for 34,,,


I don't want to turn this into a TLG vs. only11 thread when DaHoss is already handing you your a** quite easily, but I will point out that I remember Andy giving out a $100,000+ Pick 6 back on the old DRF forum. That had to go a long way towards putting him ahead for life.

And Only11, while you're talking is amusing or something, you do realize that the guy who talks trash while he's getting destroyed at something he brags about looks pretty stupid (that guy being you). It's like you going up to the plate and striking out in 4 straight at-bats, then bragging about how you owned that pitcher.

[only11]

I don't know about it being fun, but I get what you are saying. Again, I'm not asking for him to leave if I win. I never did. He wants me to leave and if he beats me I will. No big deal.

But even you would have to admit he's ridiculous with this lifetime winner stuff and all of the excuses. Put up or shut up. So far he's not putting up and not shutting up. How does that work?
The reason i post that very same phrase is because members here like to be very critical..they sound like they are never ever wrong..
Dahoss i have complimented you a few times but never once have i ever had member say anything good about me..and im fine the idiots that say i stink thats bothers me more then your know it all attitude
If they would take time to go thru my history i have posted very few times with few winners...
And i believe i could do anything..and im having fun with this.. we will finish up...and no im not going to shut up...
Enjoy your week see ya on saturday..

[only11]

I don't want to turn this into a TLG vs. only11 thread when DaHoss is already handing you your a** quite easily, but I will point out that I remember Andy giving out a $100,000+ Pick 6 back on the old DRF forum. That had to go a long way towards putting him ahead for life.

And Only11, while you're talking is amusing or something, you do realize that the guy who talks trash while he's getting destroyed at something he brags about looks pretty stupid (that guy being you). It's like you going up to the plate and striking out in 4 straight at-bats, then bragging about how you owned that pitcher.
Andy gave a 100'000 pick 6 what about his 26000 losers come on...everyone in this game loses more then they win...

[only11]

Here is some constructive criticism for Only11.... If you are going to make a comeback.... worry more about handicapping and less about talking baseball with the world. It seems as though you are more interested in PROVING you are a good handicapper by posting your ADW account and all that, or how important you used to be in the BIG LEAGUES.... instead of letting your handicapping do the talking like Dahoss is doing.

Just Handicap. Don't talk smack, Don't talk baseball, Don't tell us how good you are. Just Handicap, and Post selections.
Your 1000 percent right..im having fun with this..i cant believe the venom people have towards me,thats amusing...
I dont have to prove anything and never said how important i was in the big leagues i was a average pitcher who got lucky,never once have i said i was a all star...
Some cappers around this forum act like they do nothing but pick winners ...there quick to jump on me for having a big mouth..im having alot of fun with this what some people fail to understand is losing this contest means nothing to me it has very little to do with my life..but DAhoss seemed like he never lost a freaking race..he had this know it all attitude which made me get into this nonsense in the first place...
im doing a awful job in handicapping..like i said from now til august 22 i will post my picks right before the race

[only11]

I don't want to turn this into a TLG vs. only11 thread when DaHoss is already handing you your a** quite easily, but I will point out that I remember Andy giving out a $100,000+ Pick 6 back on the old DRF forum. That had to go a long way towards putting him ahead for life.

And Only11, while you're talking is amusing or something, you do realize that the guy who talks trash while he's getting destroyed at something he brags about looks pretty stupid (that guy being you). It's like you going up to the plate and striking out in 4 straight at-bats, then bragging about how you owned that pitcher.
What about the other 360,000 losers hes given out,you cant be serious he loses just as much as you and me...Come on guys get a grip..
He talks horses..ok now what im sure 90% of this forum could do the same thing..
What is it with people who think these guys are beating the game..jesus please he hit a pick six so has million others cappers..

[Rise Over Run]

Come on guys get a grip..He talks horses..ok now what im sure 90% of this forum could do the same thing..

That's a bit of an exageration. I don't think 90% of us are good enough looking to be on camera like Serling is.. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[tucker6]

DAhoss seemed like he never lost a freaking race..he had this know it all attitude which made me get into this nonsense in the first place...

That may be, but he's backing it up, and then some. You can't deny that his methodology and subsequent scoring support his handicapping ability. I have no ill will toward you. However, as opposed to Dahoss's sublime demeanor where his capping does the talking, you prefer to have your mouth talk on behalf of your handicapping ability, which seems near zero. Honestly, you're at about minus 40% return, and he's at plus 50% using the same rules. You keep talking about being hemmed by the rules, yet fail to acknowledge that if Dahoss played by your rules, the same result may occur anyway. Skill is skill under any set of rules. Show some contrition and you'd get further along in this thread and on this board.

[thaskalos]

Your 1000 percent right..im having fun with this..

im doing a awful job in handicapping..like i said from now til august 22 i will post my picks right before the raceOnly11...

Why are you making selections for every single race at Saratoga?

Don't you think that your results would be better is you picked the best races from several tracks...instead of playing every race at the Spa?

[HuggingTheRail]

I'll wait for the movie...

[only11]

That may be, but he's backing it up, and then some. You can't deny that his methodology and subsequent scoring support his handicapping ability. I have no ill will toward you. However, as opposed to Dahoss's sublime demeanor where his capping does the talking, you prefer to have your mouth talk on behalf of your handicapping ability, which seems near zero. Honestly, you're at about minus 40% return, and he's at plus 50% using the same rules. You keep talking about being hemmed by the rules, yet fail to acknowledge that if Dahoss played by your rules, the same result may occur anyway. Skill is skill under any set of rules. Show some contrition and you'd get further along in this thread and on this board.
Tucker you couldnt be more wrong..he had underlays that he would never bet...theres a huge difference as you will see come saturday...cappers change there mind all the time..posting picks on horses i never wagered is insane,,

[Dahoss9698]

Tucker you couldnt be more wrong..he had underlays that he would never bet...theres a huge difference as you will see come saturday...cappers change there mind all the time..posting picks on horses i never wagered is insane,,

You really have no shame, huh? Between this garbage and the press conference thread are you kidding me? Now you want to change the rules? A week before this whole thing started, I outlined the rules. Here is a post from me on July 10th (1 week before this started).


I win, you donate $100. You win, I leave for good. That way we each get what we really want.

The contest will last from July 17th and end after the last race from Del Mar on August 22nd. The contest days are every Saturday and Sunday. You get 10 Win/Place bets on any thoroughbred track running either of those days. Bets need to be in by 12:30pm every race day. If your bet scratches, you get post time favorite. Highest total at the end wins.

Here was your response....

I PROMISE YOU AND FORUM MEMBERS WHO DISLIKE YOU...

August 22nd will be your last day on PA....

Then you preceded to talk more shit and mocked my plays. Even said you would spot me 3 horses. Imagine that. And you gave me a nickname, "Chalkie." How ironic.

Now if you had an issue with the time, why didn't you say anything? Honestly, I don't want to have to waste anymore time on this than I already am and having to track down post times is way more than I want to get involved in. That is why 12:30 was selected, because it gives us both enough time to get scratches, changes, track conditions, etc. before posting our selections. I could post my picks the night before, and have a pretty good idea of what bets I will be making. I know I'm not alone there.

The contest is fair, because we both are playing by the same set of rules. We both have the same chance to do well, but it is up to us to do it.

The bottom line is this exercise is similar to tournaments I have been in and rewards the person who is the better handicapper. The sample is large enough (120 races) that having one good day can't really erase 11 bad ones. And it is a profit based contest, so picking 10 favorites everyday isn't going to get the job done.

But, you had a full week to mention you didn't really like the format and didn't. You didn't seem to have an issue until you got down by $150. What a coincidence! The real funny part of all of this, is you challenged me.

No one cares about your ADW's and no one cares about your made up baseball career. This isn't about either one of those things. It's about picking winners and showing a profit.

[thaskalos]

I sincerely hope that "only11" is not a Zenyatta fan.

We Zenyatta fans get enough criticism for our handicapping skills around here...:)

[willphorse]

You really have no shame, huh? Between this garbage and the press conference thread are you kidding me? Now you want to change the rules? A week before this whole thing started, I outlined the rules. Here is a post from me on July 10th (1 week before this started).


I win, you donate $100. You win, I leave for good. That way we each get what we really want.

The contest will last from July 17th and end after the last race from Del Mar on August 22nd. The contest days are every Saturday and Sunday. You get 10 Win/Place bets on any thoroughbred track running either of those days. Bets need to be in by 12:30pm every race day. If your bet scratches, you get post time favorite. Highest total at the end wins.

Here was your response....

I PROMISE YOU AND FORUM MEMBERS WHO DISLIKE YOU...

August 22nd will be your last day on PA....

Then you preceded to talk more shit and mocked my plays. Even said you would spot me 3 horses. Imagine that. And you gave me a nickname, "Chalkie." How ironic.

Now if you had an issue with the time, why didn't you say anything? Honestly, I don't want to have to waste anymore time on this than I already am and having to track down post times is way more than I want to get involved in. That is why 12:30 was selected, because it gives us both enough time to get scratches, changes, track conditions, etc. before posting our selections. I could post my picks the night before, and have a pretty good idea of what bets I will be making. I know I'm not alone there.

The contest is fair, because we both are playing by the same set of rules. We both have the same chance to do well, but it is up to us to do it.

The bottom line is this exercise is similar to tournaments I have been in and rewards the person who is the better handicapper. The sample is large enough (120 races) that having one good day can't really erase 11 bad ones. And it is a profit based contest, so picking 10 favorites everyday isn't going to get the job done.

But, you had a full week to mention you didn't really like the format and didn't. You didn't seem to have an issue until you got down by $150. What a coincidence! The real funny part of all of this, is you challenged me.

No one cares about your ADW's and no one cares about your made up baseball career. This isn't about either one of those things. It's about picking winners and showing a profit.


Dahoss.... I think you took the words out of everybody on PaceAdvantage's Mouths! Great Post! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[Kimsus]

Agree, same rules, well said.

[only11]

You really have no shame, huh? Between this garbage and the press conference thread are you kidding me? Now you want to change the rules? A week before this whole thing started, I outlined the rules. Here is a post from me on July 10th (1 week before this started).


I win, you donate $100. You win, I leave for good. That way we each get what we really want.

The contest will last from July 17th and end after the last race from Del Mar on August 22nd. The contest days are every Saturday and Sunday. You get 10 Win/Place bets on any thoroughbred track running either of those days. Bets need to be in by 12:30pm every race day. If your bet scratches, you get post time favorite. Highest total at the end wins.

Here was your response....

I PROMISE YOU AND FORUM MEMBERS WHO DISLIKE YOU...

August 22nd will be your last day on PA....

Then you preceded to talk more shit and mocked my plays. Even said you would spot me 3 horses. Imagine that. And you gave me a nickname, "Chalkie." How ironic.

Now if you had an issue with the time, why didn't you say anything? Honestly, I don't want to have to waste anymore time on this than I already am and having to track down post times is way more than I want to get involved in. That is why 12:30 was selected, because it gives us both enough time to get scratches, changes, track conditions, etc. before posting our selections. I could post my picks the night before, and have a pretty good idea of what bets I will be making. I know I'm not alone there.

The contest is fair, because we both are playing by the same set of rules. We both have the same chance to do well, but it is up to us to do it.

The bottom line is this exercise is similar to tournaments I have been in and rewards the person who is the better handicapper. The sample is large enough (120 races) that having one good day can't really erase 11 bad ones. And it is a profit based contest, so picking 10 favorites everyday isn't going to get the job done.

But, you had a full week to mention you didn't really like the format and didn't. You didn't seem to have an issue until you got down by $150. What a coincidence! The real funny part of all of this, is you challenged me.

No one cares about your ADW's and no one cares about your made up baseball career. This isn't about either one of those things. It's about picking winners and showing a profit.
Read carefully i said i will finish with your rules..im still going to post my picks before the race...
BTW my made up baseball career dude if you lived 1000 times you couldnt live the life i lived for 8 years..

[only11]

You really have no shame, huh? Between this garbage and the press conference thread are you kidding me? Now you want to change the rules? A week before this whole thing started, I outlined the rules. Here is a post from me on July 10th (1 week before this started).


I win, you donate $100. You win, I leave for good. That way we each get what we really want.

The contest will last from July 17th and end after the last race from Del Mar on August 22nd. The contest days are every Saturday and Sunday. You get 10 Win/Place bets on any thoroughbred track running either of those days. Bets need to be in by 12:30pm every race day. If your bet scratches, you get post time favorite. Highest total at the end wins.

Here was your response....

I PROMISE YOU AND FORUM MEMBERS WHO DISLIKE YOU...

August 22nd will be your last day on PA....

Then you preceded to talk more shit and mocked my plays. Even said you would spot me 3 horses. Imagine that. And you gave me a nickname, "Chalkie." How ironic.

Now if you had an issue with the time, why didn't you say anything? Honestly, I don't want to have to waste anymore time on this than I already am and having to track down post times is way more than I want to get involved in. That is why 12:30 was selected, because it gives us both enough time to get scratches, changes, track conditions, etc. before posting our selections. I could post my picks the night before, and have a pretty good idea of what bets I will be making. I know I'm not alone there.

The contest is fair, because we both are playing by the same set of rules. We both have the same chance to do well, but it is up to us to do it.

The bottom line is this exercise is similar to tournaments I have been in and rewards the person who is the better handicapper. The sample is large enough (120 races) that having one good day can't really erase 11 bad ones. And it is a profit based contest, so picking 10 favorites everyday isn't going to get the job done.

But, you had a full week to mention you didn't really like the format and didn't. You didn't seem to have an issue until you got down by $150. What a coincidence! The real funny part of all of this, is you challenged me.

No one cares about your ADW's and no one cares about your made up baseball career. This isn't about either one of those things. It's about picking winners and showing a profit.
Dahoss please find where i said i wouldnt finish if the rules werent changed?I aint serious with my press conference.. christ you guys take this way to serious,..

[only11]

Dahoss.... I think you took the words out of everybody on PaceAdvantage's Mouths! Great Post! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
So why did you have trouble wording it

[Kimsus]

So why did you have trouble wording it

You don't sound like a bad guy, I know you didn't ask for any advice, so pardon me if I am out of line here. But just let your handicapping do the talking for now on, post a few winners get the ball rolling and have fun with it. Dahoss is, it's not the end of the world all things considered with some of the things that are going on in the world. I still think the contest is ridiculous, I think there is a place for you and Dahoss on this forum and frankly it wouldn't be the same place without the same dynamic each brings. That's enough from me, I wouldn't want to tarnish the bad reputation I have built here.

[only11]

Saratoga

1st-# :5:
2nd-# :2:
5th-# :2:
8th-# :5:
10th-# :4:
11th-# :4:

Monmouth

5th-# :4:
6th-# :6:
8th-# :3:
10th-# :6:

Del Mar

8th-# :1:

[woodtoo]

Good Luck with yer picks :) :) :)

[Dahoss9698]

Saratoga

1st-# :5:
2nd-# :2:
5th-# :2:
8th-# :5:
10th-# :4:
11th-# :4:

Monmouth

5th-# :4:
6th-# :6:
8th-# :3:
10th-# :6:

Del Mar

8th-# :1:

You picked 11 races. We're supposed to pick 10.

[only11]

You picked 11 races. We're supposed to pick 10.
Delete the last race @ Del MAr..

[speed]

Delete the last race @ Del MAr..

Now i have an automatic play :)

[Dahoss9698]

Saturday July 31st

Saratoga

2nd- :2:
5th- :5:
7th- :8:
8th- :3:
10th- :6:
11th- :6:

Monmouth

5th- :9:
6th- :2:
9th- :2:
11th- :3:

[only11]

Now i have an automatic play :)
Line of the century :lol: :lol: :lol:

[thaskalos]

Are you sure you weren't looking at SUNDAY'S racing form? :)



Saratoga

1st-# :5:
2nd-# :2:
5th-# :2:
8th-# :5:
10th-# :4:
11th-# :4:

Monmouth

5th-# :4:
6th-# :6:
8th-# :3:
10th-# :6:

Del Mar

8th-# :1:

[only11]

Are you sure you weren't looking at SUNDAY'S racing form? :)
I havent bet any of the horses..i made 3 bets 2nd @ spa Admiral Alex won.,,Ambassador Bridge ran 2nd..And the 4th race @ monmouth Nondo ran 2nd...
Too tough to post before hand...
Admiral Alex was bet off the board... the other 2 horses i bet were dropdowns @ 6-1 and got beat by Just A lion another dropdown,and the garbage can Jim Martini

[only11]

Are you sure you weren't looking at SUNDAY'S racing form? :)
@ arlington im using the #2 and #6 4th race..

[only11]

spa- using the :6: :7: :9: garcia went to the right Bernadini firster

[only11]

@ arlington im using the #2 and #6 4th race..
2 wins the race if he gets thru @ 13-1

[only11]

Im taking Charter Class in the 5th race @ Arlington..

[only11]

Im taking Charter Class in the 5th race @ Arlington..
ran 2nd ..tough day runnerup 4 times

[Dahoss9698]

Any chance you can post your bets in another thread? It's hard enough trying to follow it.

[only11]

ok

[PaceAdvantage]

Looks like only11 almost broke even today with one $19.80 winner, which was enough to beat Dahoss who backed into a $6.10 winner via a scratch....for those dying to know...

[only11]

Looks like only11 almost broke even today with one $19.80 winner, which was enough to beat Dahoss who backed into a $6.10 winner via a scratch....for those dying to know...
PA im on Fuego i swept half the races @ Del MAr had the late pic 4 and 3..my silky sullivan move is about to be made :D :D ..

[only11]

After a absolute clinic of handicapping yesterday.. heres my quick rundown
Spa
2 race-Admiral Alex-5/2 winner
4th race-Ambassador Bridge-6-1 2nd..much the best
6th race-win bets on Athurs Tale And Data Link..lost both horses win the next time out...
9th race-Shared Account -11-1 2nd lost the photo-much the best
10th-Aikenite-lost
11th-Wow Wow Wow-8-1 winner

Totals @ the spa 5 bets won 2..as you can see 2 runnerup finishes @ this point im heating up...
I make my trip to Monmouth
4TH RACE -Nondo -2nd @6-1
5th-Cest Qui Ton Pere-3rd @ 15-1
8th-Bella d Oro-2nd- 3-1
9th-Western Flyer-7-1 3rd
11th -One Proud Cat-3rd 9-1..much the best
12th-Arabian Dancer and Scavezzato-win bets on both-Arabian Dancer 2nd 30-1,Scavezzato made a huge bid flatten out(will win next time)..Had Arabain Dancer on my watch go look @ a recent thread a month ago,i stated he would win next start,,,came close(dead next time)

Totals-7 bets-0 for 7..but my horses finish top 3...good sign and now i make my way to Arlington..

Arlington

3rd -Too Wild For Words win bet 2-1 odds-winner
4th-A Shot Away win bet 12-1 3rd..couldnt get thru much the best
5th-Charter Class-2nd @ 4-1
6th-Blue Canoe -3rd @ 6-1
7th-Bubbling Springs-4th @ 6-1..ran good(wins Next time)

Totals-5 bets..1 winner,a runnerup,and 2 3rd place finishes..not bad
Del Mar awaits the Only 11 massacre im about to lay on them..

Del Mar
1st race- a win on Golden Mexico wins by a nose @ 5-1
2nd race -a win bet on the 1 horse Joburg Star..3-1 off the board
3rd race -a win bet on Prytania and exacta with Apt Be Amazing..they finish 2nd and 3rd.
4th race-win bet on Major Smoke..bingo 5-1
6th race-a win bet on La Nez and the exacta..if 2 gets better trip i hit the super
7th race late pic 4- :8: :10: :11: :12: / :1: :10: / :11: / :8: :11:-$2800
7th race pick 3- :8: :10: :11: :12: / :10: / :11: -$282
8th race - :1: :10: / :11: / :2: :7: :8: :11: -$394
BTW had win bets on Dakato Phone..and Seductionist
Like Durkin would say a absolute brilliant display of speed...
Now for those who think i redboard..simply put..its tough to post my bets and worry about posting here..i dont have time since i wager within 5 minutes to race time..
And anyone who doubts yesterdays performance shoot me PM and i will gladly give you my username and password and let you see my stats,the just dont wager... :cool:
My amigos its like Marv Albert used to say..the great ones you could only hope to contain them before they go off.
Back to Dahoss...i will post on a different thread my picks for the day,,,they may not be the same picks as the Dahoss contest..too early and way too many things can happen..

[only11]

Spa-
1st - :8:
3rd - :4:
4th- :3:
6th- :10:
8th- :5:
Monmouth
1st- :3:
2nd- :3:
4th- :9:
5th- :3:
7th- :6:

I will be posting my picks on another thread....
Dahoss may the horse be with you.. :cool: