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Cubbymac26
07-12-2010, 02:58 AM
My friend went to the casino today to go bet the mth pk5 and we put a play in in the 7th race the 3 and the 5 have a monster stretch dual and they hit the wire together........

After this they don't even show a replay of the stretch drive and then to boot there an inquiry on the 5 which they make no mention of(my friend called me told me who won the photo and that there was an inquiry)

After the finish of the race they go to Hollywood that's still 4 mtp..... But what do they care they sucked in everybodys money for the pk5...

I troll alot on this forum and I see lots of tvg bashing but now I see where it comes from.....all u see there is pick 3 this pick 4 that pick 6 here pick 5 there..then they show every bodys stupid pics...

Why don't they show tri and exacta pics....the channel has gone downhill in the 2 years I've had tvg...

And by the way the mth race 7 stretch call wasn't one of larrys best calls either...

Am I out of line here or is tvg just that bad?!?!?!?

redshift1
07-12-2010, 03:52 AM
They jacked up the Meadowlands pace eliminations as well. For some reason they discussed the results of the 3rd heat before they aired it...knuckleheads

Cubbymac26
07-12-2010, 04:37 AM
It's so stupid over there was a good one the other day...I guess when Belmont cancelled last week cuz of the heat tvg had nothing to show so they carried Chester which is harness and these guys had no clue what they were talking about.....

Totally exposed!!!!!!!!!

Did anybody put in that Paul loduca pick 5 for $100 yesterday?!?!?!?! Where are they getting these people from....they should just let brad Thomas do the mth picks he's very solid at mth/med....even though med is shut down

lamboguy
07-12-2010, 07:53 AM
do yourself a favor, don't pay attention to TVG or anyone else's picks, and play your own picks.

from my mother's lips "those that tell don't know, and those that know don't tell"

KingChas
07-12-2010, 08:38 AM
After this they don't even show a replay of the stretch drive and then to boot there an inquiry on the 5 which they make no mention of(my friend called me told me who won the photo and that there was an inquiry)

After the finish of the race they go to Hollywood that's still 4 mtp..... But what do they care they sucked in everybodys money for the pk5...


Am I out of line here or is tvg just that bad?!?!?!?

Once the California tracks start running,
Forgetaboutit.
They tend to overstate their case for every horse running in every race.
It's tunnel vision for TVG. ;)

OTM Al
07-12-2010, 09:13 AM
Some things never change......

Phantombridgejumpe
07-12-2010, 09:24 AM
what I have heard this season Larry has been doing a very nice job with those big fields and long days.

I'll take your word that he had a bad call in the 7th, but I thought it was worth pointing out that (and least in my opinion) he is doing a solid job.

lamboguy
07-12-2010, 09:28 AM
what I have heard this season Larry has been doing a very nice job with those big fields and long days.

I'll take your word that he had a bad call in the 7th, but I thought it was worth pointing out that (and least in my opinion) he is doing a solid job.
congradualtions on the double you hit yesterday at monmouth, keep it up. someone else on here picked a winner in the last race at the mountain last night, kudo's to him

David-LV
07-12-2010, 10:38 AM
I'm wondering is TVG going to be on location at Meadowlands on Saturday for the $1,000,000 Meadowlands Pace or are we going to get more of those $4,000 claimers at Los Al?

Christina is already at Monmouth in the afternoon and it would not take much to get her up to the Meadowlands for the evening card.

Just a request to TVG, stop giving us the results before you show us the race, it really takes the fun out of watching TVG.

And please TVG enough with those pick 6 tickets at Hollywood, your record is zero for a thousand.

Stop wasting time with a history lesson on each and every horse, almost all of us can read a racing form and show us the races in a timely manner.

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David-LV

slew101
07-12-2010, 10:50 AM
No, legitimate complaint. They've been doing that for years. They rarely show a replay seconds after the race, even if they have plenty of time.

Oftentimes, on a head-bob, I used to race to the computer to get the live feed and the result. Then I realized just watching on the computer was the best route.

After this they don't even show a replay of the stretch drive and then to boot there an inquiry on the 5 which they make no mention of(my friend called me told me who won the photo and that there was an inquiry)

Am I out of line here or is tvg just that bad?!?!?!?

David-LV
07-12-2010, 10:55 AM
It's so stupid over there was a good one the other day...I guess when Belmont cancelled last week cuz of the heat tvg had nothing to show so they carried Chester which is harness and these guys had no clue what they were talking about.....

Totally exposed!!!!!!!!!

Did anybody put in that Paul loduca pick 5 for $100 yesterday?!?!?!?! Where are they getting these people from....they should just let brad Thomas do the mth picks he's very solid at mth/med....even though med is shut down

I'm going to defend the whole Monmouth team including Paul LoDuca,
they have given out plenty of winners this meet which is very unusual for a TVG crew.

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David-LV

PhantomOnTour
07-12-2010, 10:57 AM
I like LoDuca a lot. He had some good insight last year at Bel and Sar....don't know why he's at Mth all summer, but hopefully he will be at the Spa.

rrbauer
07-12-2010, 11:15 AM
I'm wondering is TVG going to be on location at Meadowlands on Saturday for the $1,000,000 Meadowlands Pace or are we going to get more of those $4,000 claimers at Los Al?



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David-LV

Gary Siebel is their harness guy. At one time he was a harness owner.

David-LV
07-12-2010, 11:39 AM
Gary Siebel is their harness guy. At one time he was a harness owner.

I know, I still have the Video tapes when he did those great 3 and 4 hours of harness shows every Saturday night in the 80's.

TVG does not give him much face time, God forbid let someone with some knowledge talk for more then 60 seconds makes the rest of them look bad.

Dave Brower is pretty knowledge also so they give him about 60 seconds, then it's off to Les at LOS AL and the $4,000 claimers.

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David-LV

KingChas
07-12-2010, 11:42 AM
I'm wondering is TVG going to be on location at Meadowlands on Saturday for the $1,000,000 Meadowlands Pace or are we going to get more of those $4,000 claimers at Los Al?

Christina is already at Monmouth in the afternoon and it would not take much to get her up to the Meadowlands for the evening card.

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David-LV

I think Christina is one of if not the best cappers/pickers TVG has.
She picked a lot of winners at Monmouth and when she didn't she was still in the ballpark with her selections.
She stated at the end of the 12th at MP she was heading back to Cal.
Too bad...............Next up at MP is Matt C. for the Haskell.

KingChas
07-12-2010, 11:47 AM
Some things never change......

I know you mean another TVG thread.
But they just don't get it.

Some things never change......

David-LV
07-12-2010, 11:51 AM
I think Christina is one of if not the best cappers/pickers TVG has.
She picked a lot of winners at Monmouth and when she didn't she was still in the ballpark with her selections.
She stated at the end of the 12th at MP she was heading back to Cal.
Too bad...............Next up at MP is Matt C. for the Haskell.

Sending Christina back to Calif, are those people brain dead at TVG? She is the key ingredient on TVG's Monmouth coverage.

She is a pleasure to listen to and she has handicapping ability far an above her fellow regular TVG announcers.

Matt C.?? Thank God for the mute button.

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David-LV

Cubbymac26
07-12-2010, 12:08 PM
no I meant with the 7th at mp Sunday larrys call was quiet with the great stretch drive the 3 fought like a champ at 21-1....larry is one of my favorite announcers by far.....

As for Gary seibel and dave brower they are as solid as it gets in harness racing....why can't they just have there own show on tvg...

Rich perloff is prob my favorite handicapper on tvg he seems pretty knowlegable and has some good systems

I wish it was non stop racing action there's to much talking and selections...

We should invent a horse racing channel that runs along the lines of the red zone channel for NFL cuz they don't miss a beat that's how tvg should run

Igeteven
07-12-2010, 12:12 PM
I am not a TVG fan, however, the boys can only do what they are told, the program director controls them and how the show goes, they must follow his format or there out, there 10 people to take their place.

E mail them on their web page and complain or call them

David-LV
07-12-2010, 12:22 PM
E mail them on their web page and complain or call them

Been there, done that, it means nothing to complain to this group. They seem to think they invented horse racing.

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David-LV

exiles
07-12-2010, 12:50 PM
I think Christina is one of if not the best cappers/pickers TVG has.
She picked a lot of winners at Monmouth and when she didn't she was still in the ballpark with her selections.
She stated at the end of the 12th at MP she was heading back to Cal.
Too bad...............Next up at MP is Matt C. for the Haskell.

So they send the best thing they have going for them back to CA, and they send us the CLOWN AKA IDIOT M. Caruthers TVG SUCKS.

Sericm
07-12-2010, 01:17 PM
If you are watching TVG and betting then you have a computer. Pay the extra $5.00 a month to get the video feeds and then you don't have to listen to that senseless prattle. You can watch any race as soon as it goes off. With a decent monitor and sound you have everything you need.

Unless you are watching them for their STUPID PICKS, there is no reason to watch the television feed. If you are playing their picks then there is no reason to bitch because except for very few they are salesmen not handicappers.

YOUR CHOICE!!!:bang:

Phantombridgejumpe
07-12-2010, 01:22 PM
Appreciate you pointing out that hit.

Missed today at Philly, but hit a small one on Friday too.

David-LV
07-12-2010, 01:30 PM
If you are watching TVG and betting then you have a computer. Pay the extra $5.00 a month to get the video feeds and then you don't have to listen to that senseless prattle. You can watch any race as soon as it goes off. With a decent monitor and sound you have everything you need.

Unless you are watching them for their STUPID PICKS, there is no reason to watch the television feed. If you are playing their picks then there is no reason to bitch because except for very few they are salesmen not handicappers.

YOUR CHOICE!!!:bang:

Can not get in some states including Nevada.

TVG will not sell us the video unless you have a betting account.



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David-LV

Dave Schwartz
07-12-2010, 02:00 PM
Apparently YouBet is not an unlimited video account, even when you pay for it. I found this out the hard way when they told me my maximum was like 50 hours per month.

comet52
07-12-2010, 02:01 PM
I don't think you can win at gambling playing someone else's selections, be it horses, sports or tiddly winks.

That said, there is a market for the pre-race show. There are people out there who need a selection, need a gamble, need a clue. Whether they get a winner or not is really not the point, if you think about it. So don't knock it, it helps put more money into the pools and thus keeps the game alive. It needs all the help it can get at this point.

David-LV
07-12-2010, 02:13 PM
Apparently YouBet is not an unlimited video account, even when you pay for it. I found this out the hard way when they told me my maximum was like 50 hours per month.

David, I think YouBet has an unlimited video plan for us in Nevada for $34.95 per month. Check with their customer service.

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David-LV

Cubbymac26
07-12-2010, 02:16 PM
I know you mean another TVG thread.
But they just don't get it.

Now this is why I don't post very often cuz of morons like this...

Here I am I make a pk 5 play really don't get to see it and wondered if anybody shared my view...

I want to know how many people in their 20s made betting the pk 5 a priorty such as myself and u wonder why no young people don't go to the races cuz they see the old guy with cigar whose rude and abnoxious who can't takethetime to explain what certain people mean

Now I see tvg threads on here all the time I figure the threads do make sense because it's our version of espn... I always get a laugh out them...

But as a young horseplayer I don't like getting the " oh no not this again" response last time I checked u don't have to read the thread...I try to promote this forum as much as possible on other sites so I really don't think there's to many people trying to promote the sport like I do....

Anyways thanks thanks to the people that responded to my thread in a meaningful manor!!!

toussaud
07-12-2010, 02:26 PM
btw i use xpressbet pro exclusivly, i can have 3 streams going at once, doesnt' cost me a dime a month. xpressbet classic does you have to pay. i bet enough there it's not a problem either way but xpressbet classic, you have to wager to watch the race basically. xpressbet pro youd on't.

David-LV
07-12-2010, 02:30 PM
Apparently YouBet is not an unlimited video account, even when you pay for it. I found this out the hard way when they told me my maximum was like 50 hours per month.

Dave, I just checked with YouBet customer service and you can buy unlimited video for $34.95 a month and if you want unlimited two video streams at the same time they charge you an additional $9.95 a month.

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David-LV

David-LV
07-12-2010, 02:45 PM
Now this is why I don't post very often cuz of morons like this...

Here I am I make a pk 5 play really don't get to see it and wondered if anybody shared my view...

I want to know how many people in their 20s made betting the pk 5 a priorty such as myself and u wonder why no young people don't go to the races cuz they see the old guy with cigar whose rude and abnoxious who can't takethetime to explain what certain people mean

Now I see tvg threads on here all the time I figure the threads do make sense because it's our version of espn... I always get a laugh out them...

But as a young horseplayer I don't like getting the " oh no not this again" response last time I checked u don't have to read the thread...I try to promote this forum as much as possible on other sites so I really don't think there's to many people trying to promote the sport like I do....

Anyways thanks thanks to the people that responded to my thread in a meaningful manor!!!

Good post and keep posting, we need more young blood like you to keep this game going.

It's only alright when the negative posters post their same dribble, then it is okay.

Keep supporting Monmouth, I know that they care about all their customers even the young ones.

Monmouth is giving you many chances every weekend to make 'A SCORE AT THE SHORE'.

Good luck this weekend and I hope you hit the .50 cent pick 5 on all three days.

BTW: Being from Brooklyn a long time ago I personally know that everything New York has is better, Ha, Ha what a joke.
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David-LV

llegend39
07-12-2010, 02:59 PM
heres a post I made at TVG community:


All day they(bores at the shore) particularly Paul palooka,were shoving the Pick 5 down everyone's throat and kept saying there may be a possibility of a carryover and yet after race 10,they throw it back to the studio to Putz Perloff and he gives the results for race 10-up to the pick 3 no mention of the pick-5! Tvg wonders why they get bashed here and other forum's and oh NO CARRYOVER

David-LV
07-12-2010, 03:06 PM
heres a post I made at TVG community:


All day they(bores at the shore) particularly Paul palooka,were shoving the Pick 5 down everyone's throat and kept saying there may be a possibility of a carryover and yet after race 10,they throw it back to the studio to Putz Perloff and he gives the results for race 10-up to the pick 3 no mention of the pick-5! Tvg wonders why they get bashed here and other forum's and oh NO CARRYOVER

It appears that their production team does not have a clue, I think they are to interested in their own bets to care about a small thing like giving you the results of the .50 cent pick 5 after hawking their TVG tickets all morning. You are right first class Putzes.

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David-LV

onefast99
07-12-2010, 03:39 PM
heres a post I made at TVG community:


All day they(bores at the shore) particularly Paul palooka,were shoving the Pick 5 down everyone's throat and kept saying there may be a possibility of a carryover and yet after race 10,they throw it back to the studio to Putz Perloff and he gives the results for race 10-up to the pick 3 no mention of the pick-5! Tvg wonders why they get bashed here and other forum's and oh NO CARRYOVER
We have had Paul sit in our box when he is on a break from the set, he is as down to earth as you can get. On Saturday he couldn't miss at MP he had the first pick 4 and just missed the last one. I know some people aren't too happy with the way TVG does things but give them a break nobody gets it right 100% of the time.

Cubbymac26
07-12-2010, 03:50 PM
We have had Paul sit in our box when he is on a break from the set, he is as down to earth as you can get. On Saturday he couldn't miss at MP he had the first pick 4 and just missed the last one. I know some people aren't too happy with the way TVG does things but give them a break nobody gets it right 100% of the time.

I have absolutly zero problem with Paul being on tvg he brings sort of a raw gambler/owner to the set and I like that...

The only thing I said was with them stuffing pk 5 plays down our throats he put $100 play in that was funny....

I remember like 6 years ago there was a pic of Paul in the new york post on a wendsday sitting in the boxes at Aqu hawking the action while playing for the mets.....so that there tells me he's one of us!!!!!

onefast99
07-12-2010, 10:21 PM
I have absolutly zero problem with Paul being on tvg he brings sort of a raw gambler/owner to the set and I like that...

The only thing I said was with them stuffing pk 5 plays down our throats he put $100 play in that was funny....

I remember like 6 years ago there was a pic of Paul in the new york post on a wendsday sitting in the boxes at Aqu hawking the action while playing for the mets.....so that there tells me he's one of us!!!!!
He is without a doubt one of us. I hope he stays at MP for the rest of the summer season I know Christina O is gone anyone know who is replacing her?

thespaah
07-12-2010, 11:11 PM
:1a: It's so stupid over there was a good one the other day...I guess when Belmont cancelled last week cuz of the heat tvg had nothing to show so they carried Chester which is harness and these guys had no clue what they were talking about.....

Totally exposed!!!!!!!!!

Did anybody put in that Paul loduca pick 5 for $100 yesterday?!?!?!?! Where are they getting these people from....they should just let brad Thomas do the mth picks he's very solid at mth/med....even though med is shut down
Lo Duca hit the Pick 4 earlier in the day. His $48 ticket returned $176...That was Saturday.
I have to ask..Why would any estute handicapper bet anything anyone else picked? Especially people on a tv show?
I cannot imagine myself ever doing this.
I do my own homework and make my onw bets.
And while it is ok for anyone to use those picks if that is their choice, those that do bet them have NO RIGHT getting upset when the bets don't pay off.

thespaah
07-12-2010, 11:16 PM
Once the California tracks start running,
Forgetaboutit.
They tend to overstate their case for every horse running in every race.
It's tunnel vision for TVG. ;)
Both TVG and HRTV are west coast focused because those channels ar based there. In fact HRTV's "studio" appears to be at Santa Anita.

JustRalph
07-12-2010, 11:18 PM
He is without a doubt one of us.

Speak for yourself. I am not cheater, middle man for illegal drugs either.

From his Wiki Page and the Mitchell Report

"On December 13, 2007, Lo Duca was named in the Mitchell Report in his connection with human growth hormone (HGH). Lo Duca allegedly received the HGH from former clubhouse attendant and known steroids dealer Kirk Radomski, who produced three checks from Lo Duca totaling $3200. Federal investigators also seized handwritten notes from Lo Duca to Radomski during a search of Radomski's house. The report also claims that Lo Duca introduced several other baseball players to Radomski, including Adam Riggs, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagné, and Matt Herges.[9]

The Mitchell Report cites a October 2003 meeting among Dodgers officials that included discussion of the possible use of steroids by some players. The notes of the meeting say:

“ Steroids aren’t being used anymore on him. Big part of this. Might have some value to trade . . . Florida might have interest. . . . Got off the steroids . . . Took away a lot of hard line drives. . . . Can get comparable value back would consider trading. . . . If you do trade him, will get back on the stuff and try to show you he can have a good year. That’s his makeup. Comes to play. Last year of contract, playing for 05. [10] ”
Six months later the Dodgers traded Lo Duca to the Florida Marlins. Mitchell did not identify the Dodgers officials involved, nor if other players were traded because they stopped taking steroids. "

thespaah
07-12-2010, 11:18 PM
I'm wondering is TVG going to be on location at Meadowlands on Saturday for the $1,000,000 Meadowlands Pace or are we going to get more of those $4,000 claimers at Los Al?

Christina is already at Monmouth in the afternoon and it would not take much to get her up to the Meadowlands for the evening card.

Just a request to TVG, stop giving us the results before you show us the race, it really takes the fun out of watching TVG.

And please TVG enough with those pick 6 tickets at Hollywood, your record is zero for a thousand.

Stop wasting time with a history lesson on each and every horse, almost all of us can read a racing form and show us the races in a timely manner.

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David-LV
It's pretty easy to give the history on all horses in a field when there are only 5 of them. :lol:

KingChas
07-12-2010, 11:56 PM
Now this is why I don't post very often cuz of morons like this...
Anyways thanks thanks to the people that responded to my thread in a meaningful manor!!!

Hope you are not calling me a moron. :mad:
The reference was to OTM AL's response.
They just don't get it was in reference to TVG not us.
If they would just show the damm races from the east coast when the post times don't coencide with their beloved Cal tracks, I wouldn't have a problem with them.
Their hosts though quite unique,shall I say, do not bother me. ;)

onefast99
07-13-2010, 09:38 AM
Speak for yourself. I am not cheater, middle man for illegal drugs either.

From his Wiki Page and the Mitchell Report

"On December 13, 2007, Lo Duca was named in the Mitchell Report in his connection with human growth hormone (HGH). Lo Duca allegedly received the HGH from former clubhouse attendant and known steroids dealer Kirk Radomski, who produced three checks from Lo Duca totaling $3200. Federal investigators also seized handwritten notes from Lo Duca to Radomski during a search of Radomski's house. The report also claims that Lo Duca introduced several other baseball players to Radomski, including Adam Riggs, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagné, and Matt Herges.[9]

The Mitchell Report cites a October 2003 meeting among Dodgers officials that included discussion of the possible use of steroids by some players. The notes of the meeting say:

“ Steroids aren’t being used anymore on him. Big part of this. Might have some value to trade . . . Florida might have interest. . . . Got off the steroids . . . Took away a lot of hard line drives. . . . Can get comparable value back would consider trading. . . . If you do trade him, will get back on the stuff and try to show you he can have a good year. That’s his makeup. Comes to play. Last year of contract, playing for 05. [10] ”
Six months later the Dodgers traded Lo Duca to the Florida Marlins. Mitchell did not identify the Dodgers officials involved, nor if other players were traded because they stopped taking steroids. "
I never met him prior to the MP meet. His past is just that his past. I don't know what that has to do with his ability to handicap horses. If you want to run a thread about steroid use in baseball there is an off-topic sports section for that.

Igeteven
07-13-2010, 10:46 AM
Been there, done that, it means nothing to complain to this group. They seem to think they invented horse racing.

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David-LV

I am sorry, TVG Management is run by a program director who has to do it his way, regardless of customer complaints,

I have seen is this in the entertainment world, All program director's thinks they know everything and know nothing how the customer feels and wants, please remember, the customer knows nothing. :D

If you ever go to the track and see a TVG crew, one can go over there and talk to them, one will see that they can do nothing to help the customer. :(

We have to live with them because they have the money to run the program.

Welcome to the entertainment world. :mad:

Where sponsors come first, and customers come second. :(

TommyCh
07-13-2010, 02:02 PM
TVG is really in a rut. ALL they talk about is multi-race wagers. They don't, as far as I can see, discuss basic or even creative individual-race bets. One result is that they aren't imparting any insight to old-timers--or the newbies they really need--on how bets are structured. And I have also noticed lately that in analysis of any given field, they just about all have a chance to win. If TVG has three or four guys at the desk, all horses will be liked by at least one of them. Frank Lyons is pretty honest, though. They're bordering on deceptive. And when are they going to get HD?

Marshall Bennett
07-13-2010, 03:17 PM
And when are they going to get HD?

As soon as the track feed is available in hd , unless you simply want to see the talking heads in hd .

OTM Al
07-13-2010, 03:25 PM
You know what I find the funniest about all these complaints about TVG? They are owned by Betfair. You know, the company so many wish would come into the US markets and make everything so much better for the player. So do you really think Betfair is any different? They are what they are. I have to believe they hyped Monmouth so much because they saw the meet as a great boon to their bottom line, and I'm sure it has been, and for no other reason. Doesn't mean their employees that are players don't enjoy what has happened there, but they never would have done what they have there unless it was benefitting them.

thaskalos
07-13-2010, 03:54 PM
You know what I find the funniest about all these complaints about TVG? They are owned by Betfair. You know, the company so many wish would come into the US markets and make everything so much better for the player. So do you really think Betfair is any different? The reason so many people want Betfair to move into the US markets, has NOTHING to do with their ability (or inability) to put on a first-class TV show...

JustRalph
07-13-2010, 03:56 PM
I never met him prior to the MP meet. His past is just that his past. I don't know what that has to do with his ability to handicap horses. If you want to run a thread about steroid use in baseball there is an off-topic sports section for that.

just pointing out who you are praising.............

his past is just his past...........does that Apply to Charlie Manson? You're right.......I won't go on........another discussion for another day. The fact that he participated in what ruined our once great sport of Baseball is for another thread.

Light
07-13-2010, 03:58 PM
After this they don't even show a replay of the stretch drive

They are very predictable. If they win,they'll show you the replay and regurgitate the live ticket. If they bust, its bad for publicity. They'll sweep the ticket under the rug and move on.

But I think Mr B is cute the way he always picks chalk and plays it safe. Get that man some warm milk and cookies!

OTM Al
07-13-2010, 03:59 PM
The reason so many people want Betfair to move into the US markets, has NOTHING to do with their ability (or inability) to put on a first-class TV show...

Yep, but that's not the point. They own TVG. TVG, according to all these posts does not care about the customer. Therefore, Betfair does not care about the customer. Betfair wants to be the one to run the exchanges. They like TVG want your money. And merrily down the garden path you go.

onefast99
07-13-2010, 04:12 PM
just pointing out who you are praising.............

his past is just his past...........does that Apply to Charlie Manson? You're right.......I won't go on........another discussion for another day. The fact that he participated in what ruined our once great sport of Baseball is for another thread.
I simply pointed out he was a pleasure to speak with at the track. He also does a decent job at TVG. Your analogy to Charles Manson is terrible. Here is a quote from Loduca.

In regards to Senator Mitchell’s report, I apologize to my family, all my fans and to the entire baseball community for [the] mistakes in judgment I made in the past and for the distractions that resulted. I am fully committed to being the best player and person I can be, on and off the field, for the Washington Nationals and the entire baseball community.
“I recognize the importance of my role in the community as a professional athlete, and I intend to focus my energies on making a positive impact in that regard. So that I can focus on making positive contributions and avoid creating further distractions, I respectfully decline to comment any further on the content of the Mitchell Report.”

Canarsie
07-13-2010, 04:56 PM
As soon as the track feed is available in hd , unless you simply want to see the talking heads in hd .

Last time I looked Keeneland was in high def and not from TVG.

TommyCh
07-13-2010, 06:07 PM
Marshall Bennett, Canarsie:
Time to start tallying up the HD feeds. Keeneland, Churchill, Fair Grounds, I think Arlington. don't know about New York, but the MSG wrap-up show is in HD. Obviously, TVG doesn't have featured access to the CDI properties. The HD pictures are decent on the computer, but not real HD. And yeah, TVG in HD on the set or when the guys are on location would be nice. Literally the only good thing about watching TVG show a race versus the computer is the big-screen TV. Seems TVG is too cheap to go HD. I don't get HRTV.

thespaah
07-13-2010, 06:13 PM
Marshall Bennett, Canarsie:
Time to start tallying up the HD feeds. Keeneland, Churchill, Fair Grounds, I think Arlington. don't know about New York, but the MSG wrap-up show is in HD. Obviously, TVG doesn't have featured access to the CDI properties. The HD pictures are decent on the computer, but not real HD. And yeah, TVG in HD on the set or when the guys are on location would be nice. Literally the only good thing about watching TVG show a race versus the computer is the big-screen TV. Seems TVG is too cheap to go HD. I don't get HRTV.
HD is much more costly to produce. Plus, space has to be found on satellite transponders to send HD back to earth.
HD uses nearly 8 times the bandwidth of SD.

TommyCh
07-13-2010, 06:30 PM
Yeah, I know. Still would be nice. Not enough profit margin to do it? Just feels the same as how the local OTBs here cheap things out so much that the experience suffers.

levinmpa
07-13-2010, 08:48 PM
It only took TVG 10 years to start showing the final odds on the screen after the horses cross the wire. Why they weren't doing this from day 1 is beyond me.

thespaah
07-13-2010, 10:06 PM
It only took TVG 10 years to start showing the final odds on the screen after the horses cross the wire. Why they weren't doing this from day 1 is beyond me.
They don't post the odds with any consistency. HRTV does.
The other thing that annoys me is why TVG uses it's own graphics instead of the track's graphics. 9 times out ten, TVG pulls ther graphics down BEFORE the field hits the 1/4 pole AND they don't post the 1/4 split times with any consistency.
The real kicker is I have emailed TVG several times asking why they do this and to date I have not gotten a response. That's shitty...
BTW, HRTV always uses the track's graphics.

levinmpa
07-13-2010, 10:24 PM
They don't post the odds with any consistency. HRTV does.
The other thing that annoys me is why TVG uses it's own graphics instead of the track's graphics. 9 times out ten, TVG pulls ther graphics down BEFORE the field hits the 1/4 pole AND they don't post the 1/4 split times with any consistency.
The real kicker is I have emailed TVG several times asking why they do this and to date I have not gotten a response. That's shitty...
BTW, HRTV always uses the track's graphics.

And don't you love it when they cover a track's split screen logo with their own logo like for Tampa Bay Down or Indiana Downs, and then forget to pull it when the split screen goes to full screen at the top of the stretch. You get the TVG.com logo across the middle of the screen while the field runs down the stretch. They really need to get over themselves and their damn logo and just show the races. Please just give us the track feed and track graphics. I prefer to watch Hollywood and Del Mar on Calracing.com because I can get the split screen instead of TVG switching back and forth between the front runners and the full screen. It's just unbelievably annoying when they switch cameras while the field runs down the backstretch. And then at Del Mar they switch to a camera on the ground, looking up at the field for a few seconds, which is just a completely worthless angle if you have a wager on the race and are trying to find your runner.

David-LV
07-13-2010, 10:29 PM
They don't post the odds with any consistency. HRTV does.
The other thing that annoys me is why TVG uses it's own graphics instead of the track's graphics. 9 times out ten, TVG pulls ther graphics down BEFORE the field hits the 1/4 pole AND they don't post the 1/4 split times with any consistency.
The real kicker is I have emailed TVG several times asking why they do this and to date I have not gotten a response. That's shitty...
BTW, HRTV always uses the track's graphics.

Maybe someone from TVG that reads these blogs can explain why, that if they really care.

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David-LV

affirmedny
07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
And don't you love it when they cover a track's split screen logo with their own logo like for Tampa Bay Down or Indiana Downs, and then forget to pull it when the split screen goes to full screen at the top of the stretch. You get the TVG.com logo across the middle of the screen while the field runs down the stretch. They really need to get over themselves and their damn logo and just show the races. Please just give us the track feed and track graphics. I prefer to watch Hollywood and Del Mar on Calracing.com because I can get the split screen instead of TVG switching back and forth between the front runners and the full screen. It's just unbelievably annoying when they switch cameras while the field runs down the backstretch. And then at Del Mar they switch to a camera on the ground, looking up at the field for a few seconds, which is just a completely worthless angle if you have a wager on the race and are trying to find your runner.

Nothing is worse than Del Mar's live feed though. You need a telescope to watch the race, no immediate replay of the finish (they show you that stupid isolated slomo replay of the winner as if there were no exactas, triples or supers). Terrible, just terrible. Minor league. Whoever's in charge of TV production has never bet on a horse race.

KingChas
07-13-2010, 11:53 PM
In regards to Senator Mitchell’s report, I apologize to my family, all my fans and to the entire baseball community for [the] mistakes in judgment I made in the past and for the distractions that resulted. I am fully committed to being the best player and person I can be, on and off the field, for the Washington Nationals and the entire baseball community.
“I recognize the importance of my role in the community as a professional athlete, and I intend to focus my energies on making a positive impact in that regard. So that I can focus on making positive contributions and avoid creating further distractions, I respectfully decline to comment any further on the content of the Mitchell Report.”

Yo Ralph,doesn't that sound like a certain Guv that lives near you too? :lol:
Ala Mr. Universe.

onefast99
07-14-2010, 12:19 PM
Yo Ralph,doesn't that sound like a certain Guv that lives near you too? :lol:
Ala Mr. Universe.
And all this time I thought he was one of those natural body builders.

David-LV
07-17-2010, 12:22 PM
TVG is at it again with their Pick 6 Central today for Hollywood's carryover.

Today's crew is led by the handicapping genius known as Matt C.

I just have one question for this group including Matt C., when will one of your ticket be a winning ticket?

Promote, promote, and burn up the public's money. You all sound like a bunch of snake oil salesmen.

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David-LV

thespaah
07-17-2010, 02:21 PM
TVG is at it again with their Pick 6 Central today for Hollywood's carryover.

Today's crew is led by the handicapping genius known as Matt C.

I just have one question for this group including Matt C., when will one of your ticket be a winning ticket?

Promote, promote, and burn up the public's money. You all sound like a bunch of snake oil salesmen.

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David-LV
I get the part about them promoting the pick 6...TVG does that and promotes other multi-race wagers in order to have something to say and maybe sound interesting.
But how is TVG "burning the public's money"? Are you implying that TVG is influencing wagers?....
I gotta tell ya, IMO no self respecting horseplayer would ever bet what a talking head on TV recommends.
I agree that in general, American's have limited attention spans and tend ot want things spoon fed to them, but we're handicappers...I would like to believe we as a species do our own homework...

David-LV
07-17-2010, 04:48 PM
I get the part about them promoting the pick 6...TVG does that and promotes other multi-race wagers in order to have something to say and maybe sound interesting.
But how is TVG "burning the public's money"? Are you implying that TVG is influencing wagers?....
I gotta tell ya, IMO no self respecting horseplayer would ever bet what a talking head on TV recommends.
I agree that in general, American's have limited attention spans and tend ot want things spoon fed to them, but we're handicappers...I would like to believe we as a species do our own homework...

They would not be spending so much time and posting their plays on the TVG betting website if they did not has a fair amount of suckers playing their tickets.

Just show the races, that is all most of us ask for and cut down on the BS.

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David-LV

MONMOUTH="A SCORE AT THE SHORE."

KingChas
07-18-2010, 10:29 AM
Does Belmont actually run a 10th race?
I haven't seen it live in a long time.

Thank god I get Monmouth Park feed online or I would miss a couple of their live races every weekend also.