The Filly and Mare Classic Final

[andtheyreoff]

1 1/4 Miles Dirt
Monmouth Park
126 pounds for all runners.

:1: . Zenyatta- 17-17-0-0 $6,074,580 M/L- 4/1


First female to win the Breeders' Cup Classic (4th to try).
[list]
Winner of 11 Grade 1 races.
One of 5 horses to win at least 16 races in the modern American era.
Known for a rabid fan club on the internet.
Running style: Deep closer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q5RD54WnGQ

:2: Personal Ensign 13-13-0-0 $1,679,880 M/L- 9/2

One of few horses in modern American era to retire undefeated.
Ran 11 of her races with screws in her ankle keeping it together.
Famous for her amazing closing run to defeat Winning Colors in 1988 Breeders' Cup Distaff.
Running style: Presser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oILJ6IYoZso

:3: Bayakoa 39-21-9-0 $2,817,524 M/L- 10/1

Only horse to date to win back-to-back Breeders' Cup Distaffs.
Came from Argentina after winning premier race by 13 lengths.
Had won 10 out of 11 races from 1989-1990.
Running Style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECf61Nor5fg

More profiles coming later.

[tucker6]

How many can we vote for??

[Space Monkey]

Jerry Bailey on Personal Ensign :confused:

Randy Romero was her rider.

[andtheyreoff]

How many can we vote for??

As many as you want.

:4: Inside Information- 17-14-1-2 $1,641,806 M/L- 15/1

Won 1995 Breeders' Cup Distaff by 13 1/2 lengths.
Won 1994 Acorn by 11 lengths.
Won 1995 Ruffian by 11 lengths.
Running style: Presser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8terPrcQeBw

:5: Go for Wand- 13-10-2-0 $1,373,338 M/L- 8/1

1989 2yo Filly Champion
Winner of 5 straight G1 races, including 2 races against elders.
Won 7 Furlong Test and 9 days later won 1 1/4 Alabama.
Running style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8terPrcQeBw

:6: Davona Dale- 18-11-2-1 $641,612 M/L- 20/1

Winner of 1979 Triple Tiara
Won 8 straight prior to losing 1979 Alabama.
Prior to Triple Tiara, won Kentucky Oaks and Black Eyed Susan.
Running Style: Presser

:7: Princess Rooney- 21-17-2-1 $1,343,339 M/L- 15/1

First winner of Breeders' Cup Distaff.
Concluded 1984 with 5 straight victories, including 4 G1s.
Running Style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmvxk-_bWuI

:8: Genuine Risk- 15-10-3-2 $646,587 M/L- 20/1

First filly in 65 years to win Kentucky Derby.
Victim of Angel Cordero's ride on Codex in the 1980 Preakness.
Running Style: Midpack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpUhy9iyzqo

:9: Lady's Secret- 45-25-9-3 $3,021,425 M/L- 6/1

1986 Horse of the Year.
Won 11 G1s at 3 and 4.
Defeated males in 1986 Whitney, 1-6 against males lifetime.
Running Style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO5mSHDrOfo

:10: Ruffian- 11-10-1-0 $313,429 M/L- 7/2

Winner of 10 straight races.
Never headed at any point of call prior to 1975 Great Match Stakes.
Winner of 1975 Triple Tiara.
Running Style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Ll5R3Ihgg

:11: Azeri- 24-17-4-0 $4,079,820 M/L- 15/1

2002 Horse of the Year.
Winner of 11 straight races.
Grade one winner at 4,5, and 6.
Running Style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnw4NfZ8d3s&feature=related

:12: Shuvee- 44-16-10-6 $890,445 M/L- 10/1

Winner of 2 Mile Jockey Club Gold Cup in 1970.
Winner of 1969 Triple Tiara.
Running Style: Midpack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKQBc8dbvsc

:13: Rachel Alexandra- 17-14-2-0 $3,206,730 M/L- 5/1

2009 Horse of the Year
First Filly in 85 Years to win Preakness.
First 3yo Filly to ever win Woodward.
Largest winning margin in history of KY Oaks and Mother Goose
Known for causing spirited debates on Paceadvantage.com
Running Style: Frontrunner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGvbUmqv-s

:14: Busher- 21-15-3-1 $334,035 M/L- 8/1

1945 Horse of the Year
Beat males 4 times as a 3 year old filly.
Beat older males twice in 1945.
Running Style: Presser.

Jerry Bailey rode Personal Ensign in her first race back from her injury. Randy was already on Go for Wand.

[joanied]

andthereoff...I see you must have read my post about John L Rotz...you have him on Azeri...:cool: :)

[OntheRail]

I'm sorry but Zenyatta has not proven her self on dirt. As well as she has run on poly in the past she has not faced a field as deep as this one. And in the last out St Trinians almost had her number and Mike did not go on about how she had another gear and all that stuff... I think we've seen her bottom. So with that how would St Trinians fair against this field? Also Mike would have to get Zenyatta much closer to the pace and that means running more then the last 3/16's. These are not a bunch of claimers that will be backing up after the turn, I don't think she wins over this field.

[KinkyFriedman]

Ruffian by seven. Rachel Alexandra a distant second. Tossup for third.

[Tom]

Tough between Lady's Secret and Ruffian.
I took Lady 'cause I saw some of her better races.

[tucker6]

Ruffian by seven. Rachel Alexandra a distant second. Tossup for third.
Ruffian wins, but there are a bunch of tough broads (think Joanied :) ) in this race, so even though I like RA, she's not a given to place or show. Zenyatta finishes in the bottom half for the reasons Ontherails states.

[tucker6]

Tough between Lady's Secret and Ruffian.
I took Lady 'cause I saw some of her better races.
Aren't they 1st cousins as well?? Secretariat was Ruffian's uncle, so Lady should be her 1st cousin. I know it's horses, and doesn't translate like human relations, but an interesting factoid.

[joanied]

Ruffian wins, but there are a bunch of tough broads (think Joanied :) ) in this race, so even though I like RA, she's not a given to place or show. Zenyatta finishes in the bottom half for the reasons Ontherails states.

I'll take that as a compliment, tucker:ThmbUp: :) ...
this IS a race with some tough broads in the field...imagine what racing would be like to have this calibur of horse running today...bet it'd be pretty difficult for anyone to bitch about any of them...well, except RA & Z;)

With Ruffian setting the pace, and the like's of Lady's Secret, Go for Wand, Rachel right on her hip the whole way, the pace would be a killer...but, although I don't like going along with the crowd, but I think Ruffian would hang on for the win...what comes next is so hard...how about a dead heat for place with all the rest:D Zenyatta may be a 'pro ride' specialist, but we know she can run just as well on dirt...and with blistering fractions...she'll be coming. Rachel has yet to try 1 1/4 mile...maybe she can get it, but not in this race...I think she comes up short...

I've been thinking about this for a few days, and still can't make up my mind...so, I'll just go with:

Ruffian...by 1/2 length
Zenyatta...by a nose over...
Personal Ensign
Inside Information

[5k-claim]

Some voters are spreading out over trifectas, it looks like. But I am just going to go for the win with Ruffian.

Obviously one heck of a race! I would probably make a propositional bet on Z to finish in the top half of the field to anyone who would offer it.


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[tucker6]

Some voters are spreading out over trifectas, it looks like. But I am just going to go for the win with Ruffian.

Obviously one heck of a race! I would probably make a propositional bet on Z to finish in the top half of the field to anyone who would offer it.


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In reality, I could see her taking fifth as her effort levels out at the head of the stretch. I believe there are too many frontrunners with staying power. She'd either have to use up her late kick early to stay close, or have a ton of ground to make up down the lane. Either way, there's too much quality for a late closer to win this type of race.

[wisconsin]

Too many bullets for Ruffian to fend off, unless she gets loose in world record fractions that are too quick for anyone to challenge her, and then you have the final 1/4 for her to go. After that, who could really call this one? Helluva race to watch.

[5k-claim]

In reality, I could see her taking fifth as her effort levels out at the head of the stretch. I believe there are too many frontrunners with staying power. She'd either have to use up her late kick early to stay close, or have a ton of ground to make up down the lane. Either way, there's too much quality for a late closer to win this type of race.

Could be. Z is always at the mercy of her style and with a field of this historical quality it would be very, very tough to pull off.

To be honest, a prop bet of top half vs bottom half is probably about as specific as I would want to go with a bet. I know that it may go against the spirit of this forum (but maybe not this post?), but I would just love to stand/pace and watch this race without having to subconsciously pull for one of them over the others just because I had a bet on her. Several on this list have been "my favorite" at some point or another over the years. A lot of big hearts in that field.


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[joanied]

Could be. Z is always at the mercy of her style and with a field of this historical quality it would be very, very tough to pull off.

To be honest, a prop bet of top half vs bottom half is probably about as specific as I would want to go with a bet. I know that it may go against the spirit of this forum (but maybe not this post?), but I would just love to stand/pace and watch this race without having to subconsciously pull for one of them over the others just because I had a bet on her. Several on this list have been "my favorite" at some point or another over the years. A lot of big hearts in that field.


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Exactly...I'm sure everyone has watched a race or two where you want nearly every horse in the field to win...this is one of those races...
I put Ruffian on top because she was so insane with her running, I beleive she'd hang on for a close finish...and although I was working at Belmont Park during that time, and we even ran 2nd against her in the CCAO...I don't have as much of a soft spot in my heart as I do some of the others in this field.

I just love your last sentence..." a lot of big hearts in that field" :ThmbUp:

[andtheyreoff]

Final Odds:

Zenyatta- 7/1
Personal Ensign- 8/1
Bayakoa- 41/1
Inside Information- 11/1
Go for Wand- 23/1
Davona Dale- 75/1
Princess Rooney- 70/1
Genuine Risk- 75/1
Lady's Secret- 18/1
Ruffian- 2/1
Azeri- 41/1
Shuvee- 25/1
Rachel Alexandra- 11/1
Busher- 40/1

At the start, Ruffian and Lady's Secret immeadiately challenge for the lead, with Rachel Alexandra and Go for Wand keeping tabs on them, as Bayakoa and Princess Rooney getting stalking spots. They're followed, in order, by Personal Ensign, Shuvee, Busher, Azeri, Inside Information, Genuine Risk, Zenyatta, and Davona Dale through 22 and 3 and 45 flat fractions.

Down the backside, Rachel rushes up to the flank of Ruffian, dead set on taking the lead despite the stout restraint of Calvin. Lady's Secret is beginning to tire as Personal Ensign and Inside Information move up. Busher is advancing 3 wide through a 1:08.3 split for 6 Furlongs, and Zenyatta follows her. Rounding the far turn, Ruffian still clings to the lead by a neck, with Rachel trying to hold on but stopping. Go for Wand is moving up 3 wide, as Personal Ensign weaves her way through. Lady's Secret is tiring, as Zenyatta rushes 5 wide but struggles to keep up with the blazing speed after 1:33.2 for the mile.

Down the stretch, Ruffian has wrestled the lead by 1/2 a length, but Personal Ensign is coming on big time through horses. Rachel Alexandra is chasing PE, as Go for Wand starts again, Lady's Secret is dropping back, and the rallies of Inside Information and Zenyatta have stopped, with Bayakoa having tired the most. Down to the wire, it's Personal Ensign in front by 1 length, with Rachel Alexandra in second, a head ahead of Ruffian for third, followed three lengths behind by Go For Wand for fourth and Lady's Secret for fifth.

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Final time: 1:59.1

[Pick6]

Leaving out a filly who would be favored over all but perhaps 3 of those in this field does not add credbility to this proposed fantasy "classic".

[thaskalos]

Final Odds:

Zenyatta- 7/1
Personal Ensign- 8/1
Bayakoa- 41/1
Inside Information- 11/1
Go for Wand- 23/1
Davona Dale- 75/1
Princess Rooney- 70/1
Genuine Risk- 75/1
Lady's Secret- 18/1
Ruffian- 2/1
Azeri- 41/1
Shuvee- 25/1
Rachel Alexandra- 11/1
Busher- 40/1

At the start, Ruffian and Lady's Secret immeadiately challenge for the lead, with Rachel Alexandra and Go for Wand keeping tabs on them, as Bayakoa and Princess Rooney getting stalking spots. They're followed, in order, by Personal Ensign, Shuvee, Busher, Azeri, Inside Information, Genuine Risk, Zenyatta, and Davona Dale through 22 and 3 and 45 flat fractions.

Down the backside, Rachel rushes up to the flank of Ruffian, dead set on taking the lead despite the stout restraint of Calvin. Lady's Secret is beginning to tire as Personal Ensign and Inside Information move up. Busher is advancing 3 wide through a 1:08.3 split for 6 Furlongs, and Zenyatta follows her. Rounding the far turn, Ruffian still clings to the lead by a neck, with Rachel trying to hold on but stopping. Go for Wand is moving up 3 wide, as Personal Ensign weaves her way through. Lady's Secret is tiring, as Zenyatta rushes 5 wide but struggles to keep up with the blazing speed after 1:33.2 for the mile.

Down the stretch, Ruffian has wrestled the lead by 1/2 a length, but Personal Ensign is coming on big time through horses. Rachel Alexandra is chasing PE, as Go for Wand starts again, Lady's Secret is dropping back, and the rallies of Inside Information and Zenyatta have stopped, with Bayakoa having tired the most. Down to the wire, it's Personal Ensign in front by 1 length, with Rachel Alexandra in second, a head ahead of Ruffian for third, followed three lengths behind by Go For Wand for fourth and Lady's Secret for fifth.

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Final time: 1:59.1Blasphemy!

A pace set-up like this...and Zenyatta no-where to be found at the wire?

[tucker6]

1:59.1 is a fast race, and would win every KD ever run. In his Belmont, Secretariat only did 1:59.0 for the first 10F. Just saying that this is an unrealistic race pace even for these great ladies.