Progressives Want "Direct Action" But a Disarmed Public

[Black Ruby]

It would seem that there's something for everyone in this article. Written by former Deputy Sec. of the Treasury and WSJ columnist

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06182010.html

Excerpt:
"It is the conservatives who are armed, and they think the enemies are blacks, hispanics, pinko-liberal commies, and “terrorists.” Recently a friend told me that Obama was a marxist. Really, how did a marxist get elected with the support of the US military-security complex, the support of AIPAC, the insurance industry, Wall Street, Big Oil? How much money do marxists have with which to make campaign contributions? I mean, really. It is extraordinary that anyone could possibly believe that a stealth marxist could gain the White House. If he did, once he showed his colors, he would be assassinated, and Iran would be blamed, followed by an invasion.

The other day I saw a young man with a t-shirt with Obama’s image. Under it was the caption, ‘“socialist.” The stupidity of Americans is extraordinary. Wall Street is going to put a socialist in the White House?! If the word under Obama’s image had been “prostitute,” the message would have been on target."

[boxcar]

It would seem that there's something for everyone in this article. Written by former Deputy Sec. of the Treasury and WSJ columnist

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06182010.html

Excerpt:
"It is the conservatives who are armed, and they think the enemies are blacks, hispanics, pinko-liberal commies, and “terrorists.” Recently a friend told me that Obama was a marxist. Really, how did a marxist get elected with the support of the US military-security complex, the support of AIPAC, the insurance industry, Wall Street, Big Oil? How much money do marxists have with which to make campaign contributions? I mean, really. It is extraordinary that anyone could possibly believe that a stealth marxist could gain the White House. If he did, once he showed his colors, he would be assassinated, and Iran would be blamed, followed by an invasion.

The other day I saw a young man with a t-shirt with Obama’s image. Under it was the caption, ‘“socialist.” The stupidity of Americans is extraordinary. Wall Street is going to put a socialist in the White House?! If the word under Obama’s image had been “prostitute,” the message would have been on target."

Three things made it very easy elect this Marxist: Most voters of various stripes were reactionaries who voted more against the Repugs out of their hate of Bush. And many if not most liberal voters wanted to be part of history and see a black man be elected president for the first time. And lastly, so little was and still is unknown about BO. This is the most mysterious, secretive president ever. If more had been known, chances would have been better, at least, for his defeat.

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

The hatred of Bush helped, but the defining moment of the campaign was when McCain went to Washington and was unable to broker a deal after Lehman Bros collapsed. I think he might have won if he had just stayed away.

[Black Ruby]

McCain was also stupid enough to tell the American public that he didn't know much about the economy. There's also his involvement in the Keating 5 S&L scandal.

[GameTheory]

I know we bandy around a lot of issues at election time, but every presidential election is decided by the state of the economy in election year, period. No Republican could have won the last one, and no Democrat could have lost it.

[BlueShoe]

"It is the conservatives who are armed, and they think the enemies are blacks, hispanics, pinko-liberal commies, and “terrorists.” Recently a friend told me that Obama was a marxist.
The other day I saw a young man with a t-shirt with Obama’s image. Under it was the caption, ‘“socialist.”
This part of the article may be true, certainly the comments about Obamas ideology, but the rest of it is full of holes. Rather amusing to read that so called peaceful "Progressives" are advocating arming a 100,000 of their number and starting an insurrection. Had any well known person on the Right done that, the media would go absolutely bonkers with hysteria.

[bigmack]

It would seem that there's something for everyone in this article. Written by former Deputy Sec. of the Treasury and WSJ columnist
Odd when The Journal is quoted supporting a conservative position it's thought of Murdock's iron fist.

Paul Craig Roberts is a hack who is a 9/11 truther wack-job. His opinion is draffish.

[Black Ruby]

Odd when The Journal is quoted supporting a conservative position it's thought of Murdock's iron fist.

Paul Craig Roberts is a hack who is a 9/11 truther wack-job. His opinion is draffish.

He left the WSJ long before it became foreign-owned by the guy who wants to rule the world by being THE main stream media.

[Black Ruby]

This part of the article may be true, certainly the comments about Obamas ideology, but the rest of it is full of holes. Rather amusing to read that so called peaceful "Progressives" are advocating arming a 100,000 of their number and starting an insurrection. Had any well known person on the Right done that, the media would go absolutely bonkers with hysteria.

Um.....I don't think you comprehended......what Roberts said was "If progressives really desire direct confrontation with the evil doers who control our country, they will have to accept that the people must be armed, trained, and have an understanding of who their enemy is. As the Founding Fathers tried to beat into our heads, the enemy is always the government.

Somehow I just can’t see progressives getting this far. They would rather Americans be slaves of the state than armed.

I am not advocating armed rebellion, just pointing out an inconsistency in the progressives’ position."

[bigmack]

He left the WSJ long before it became foreign-owned by the guy who wants to rule the world by being THE main stream media.
Delaware is a foreign country? I never knew that.

[TheBid9]

I know we bandy around a lot of issues at election time, but every presidential election is decided by the state of the economy in election year, period. No Republican could have won the last one, and no Democrat could have lost it.

There are so many valid points coming out of this thread! Everybody seems to be right on! However, what is Roberts talking about with his T-shirt remark. By his own admission BO called himself an "Eastern Socialist" his words. I see him more as a Marxist. Game is spot on when he states that no Republican could have won the last election. IMO It was lost early and I believe the Rep. party knew it and simply let it play out and come back stronger next time. I never saw McCain as a strong enough candidate, able to defeat a minority candidate who's time had come, in the midst of such anti-Republican sentiment. And throw in the Hollywood air-heads.
I believe it was Josef Stalin who said, and I'm paraphrasing, the "fastest way to enslave people is to disarm them". Later, Hitler adopted Joe's attitude.

[Black Ruby]

Oh, so Delaware owns the WSJ? It's not Murdoch's The News Corporation? Brilliant, as usual, BM.

[bigmack]

Oh, so Delaware owns the WSJ? It's not Murdoch's The News Corporation? Brilliant, as usual, BM.
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[BlueShoe]

Somehow I just can’t see progressives getting this far. They would rather Americans be slaves of the state than armed. Agree with you on this one. There are a few liberals that are pro gun and own and shoot them, but they are center left, not the far left so called progressives, most of whom are Marxists and who would actually welcome an all powerful slave state.