Gov. Chris Christie

[bigmack]

Kickin' fanny & takin' names. This cat rocks.

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[andymays]

That's one of the best speeches I've ever seen on the subject.

[boxcar]

Gotta love this guy! That "bully" pulls no punches! :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

This is the kinda guy (perhaps twice the "bully") this country needs for our next president. This country desperately needs someone like this who is able to carefully articulate the core issues that confront us.

Boxcar

[ArlJim78]

Christie puts all other politicians to shame. We can only hope that he inspires others to step up.

[andymays]

Do you mean to tell me he doesn't need a teleprompter? :D

[boxcar]

Christie puts all other politicians to shame. We can only hope that he inspires others to step up.

Jan Brewer out in Arizona tells it like it is, too. Conversely, I perceive that Jindal has a wussy streak in him.

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

Jan Brewer out in Arizona tells it like it is, too. Conversely, I perceive that Jindal has a wussy streak in him.

Boxcar Except when it comes to her father's service during WWII.

[sandpit]

I hope he runs for president SOON...I might vote for him even if the opposition resurrected Thomas Jefferson.

[boxcar]

Except when it comes to her father's service during WWII.

Elaborate, please.

Boxcar

[bigmack]

Elaborate, please.
Don't bother. He's been suckin' on the tailpipe of Olbermann again.

[pandy]

Just the kind of leader we need.

[boxcar]

Don't bother. He's been suckin' on the tailpipe of Olbermann again.

In that case, he needs to get into rehab.

Boxcar

[TiznowfaninNY]

Good for him.

Still wondering how he got elected in liberal NJ.

[Robert Goren]

Elaborate, please.

Boxcarhttp://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0610/Brewer_claim_on_fathers_death_draws_scrutiny.html? showall

"The Nazi comments ... they are awful," Brewer told the Arizona Republic (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/06/01/20100601arizona-immigration-law-jan-brewer.html) of the rhetorical attacks she'd absorbed after signing a tough immigration measure. "Knowing that my father died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany, that I lost him when I was 11 because of that ... and then to have them call me Hitler's daughter. It hurts. It's ugliness beyond anything I've ever experienced."

The problem, the Arizona Guardian reports (http://www.arizonaguardian.com/azg/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2101:brewer&catid=937:campaigns-a-elections-fp):




During the war, [Brewer's father Wilford] Drinkwine worked as a civilian supervisor for a naval munitions depot in Hawthorne, Nev. He died of lung disease in 1955 in California.

[boxcar]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0610/Brewer_claim_on_fathers_death_draws_scrutiny.html? showall

"The Nazi comments ... they are awful," Brewer told the Arizona Republic (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/06/01/20100601arizona-immigration-law-jan-brewer.html) of the rhetorical attacks she'd absorbed after signing a tough immigration measure. "Knowing that my father died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany, that I lost him when I was 11 because of that ... and then to have them call me Hitler's daughter. It hurts. It's ugliness beyond anything I've ever experienced."

The problem, the Arizona Guardian reports (http://www.arizonaguardian.com/azg/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2101:brewer&catid=937:campaigns-a-elections-fp):




During the war, [Brewer's father Wilford] Drinkwine worked as a civilian supervisor for a naval munitions depot in Hawthorne, Nev. He died of lung disease in 1955 in California.





What you post is meaningless. Produce the actual quote of Brewer whereby she allegedly said her father died in the war. I'd like to see her words in print in the the context in which she spoke them.

Boxcar

[bigmack]

Good for him.

Still wondering how he got elected in liberal NJ.
The opponent was seen hangin' with the wrong crowd.

http://www.manlyrash.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/obama-corzine.jpg

[Rookies]

What you post is meaningless. Produce the actual quote of Brewer whereby she allegedly said her father died in the war. I'd like to see her words in print in the the context in which she spoke them.

Boxcar

See: http://cbs2.com/local/governor.brewer.arizona.2.1731948.html?detectflash =false

or http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38127.html

or many others...

Here's a good triangulation:

“My father died fighting the German regiments of Hitler,” she said.

(pause...)

“And he did. He was building the bombs.”

Yep. EVERYBODY reading that first statement would understand he was in a U.S. munitions plant- just like Rosie the Riveter. Nothing wrong with that work- everything wrong with the spin.


Another despicable bullshit pol. Does EVERY politician have to lie ? Is it intrinsic to their very nature- especially when the heat is on ?

[bigmack]

Another despicable bullshit pol.
You drones are a piece of work. Her dad died in '55. He worked in a factory making munitions towards the cause to fight Nazi's that were IN Germany. Dolts like you, Goren & Olbermann sit and worry about such things.

Women worked in factories to fight Nazi's. That's the way people described it. Do you honestly think sitting up there in the Great White North that she was trying to embellish the record of her father who died 55 years ago?

Talk about despicable.

Let alone hijacking a thread that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

[JustRalph]

I have also read that her family blames the air in the bomb factory for being filled with asbestos, therefore causing her fathers lung problems.

I don't think it is too far a jump to make the statement she made. Maybe not technically accurate, but in the same thought process I can see.

[chrisl]

Christie\Palin ......2012. The pot has been stirred.

[Robert Goren]

Christie\Palin ......2012. The pot has been stirred. He nationalize all the race tracks in the country and force the casinos to subsidize them. That could plank number 4 in his platform. It will get him all the horse people's vote.

[GaryG]

He nationalize all the race tracks in the country and force the casinos to subsidize them. That could plank number 4 in his platform. It will get him all the horse people's vote.Hey Robert....what took you so long with this one? I thought it would be post #2. If blue states like CT and MA can elect guys like Christie and Brown there may yet be hope, right Barry Hussein?

[Robert Goren]

See: http://cbs2.com/local/governor.brewer.arizona.2.1731948.html?detectflash =false

or http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38127.html

or many others...

Here's a good triangulation:

“My father died fighting the German regiments of Hitler,” she said.

(pause...)

“And he did. He was building the bombs.”

Yep. EVERYBODY reading that first statement would understand he was in a U.S. munitions plant- just like Rosie the Riveter. Nothing wrong with that work- everything wrong with the spin.


Another despicable bullshit pol. Does EVERY politician have to lie ? Is it intrinsic to their very nature- especially when the heat is on ?Doing the Rosie the Riveter thing is not same thing as fighting the Nazis in Germany like my dad did(and was injured doing so) . To put people who went home every night to a warm bed in the class as the soldiers ducking bullets in Europe is insulting. I am sure the few WWII vets that are still alive feel the same way. Just because she agrees with me on illegal immigration, I am not giving her a pass on this.

[Robert Goren]

Hey Robert....what took you so long with this one? I thought it would be post #2. If blue states like CT and MA can elect guys like Christie and Brown there may yet be hope, right Barry Hussein? :blush: Yeah, I know I am slipping a bit here. The only excuse I can offer was that last night I was so mad about old blue eyes getting bumped for Alicia Keys that I could see straight.

[jballscalls]

Christie\Palin ......2012. The pot has been stirred.

if you get rid of the second part of that lineup you got a real shot, she would kill any ticket in 2012, she's just hated by too many people. granted she's loved and adored by many, but those are all people that would vote for her party anyways. i've never heard one liberal or even moderate who would vote for her. plus she'd probably quit a year into it anyways, and at $12 mil a year, i wouldn't blame her!

[boxcar]

:blush: Yeah, I know I am slipping a bit here. The only excuse I can offer was that last night I was so mad about old blue eyes getting bumped for Alicia Keys that I could see straight.

You should get riled up more often if it makes you see straight.

Boxcar

[Tom]

I can't differentiate her comments from the sleazebag in Conn.
It was a lie no matter how much lipstick you put on it.

The lesson we are learning here is that never, ever, ever, trust, believe or support a politician. Support or oppose ideas, but never let the person into it. All of them, no matter the party, are not to be trusted. No one deserves any respect whatsoever.

[Tom]

Doing the Rosie the Riveter thing is not same thing as fighting the Nazis in Germany like my dad did(and was injured doing so) . To put people who went home every night to a warm bed in the class as the soldiers ducking bullets in Europe is insulting. I am sure the few WWII vets that are still alive feel the same way. Just because she agrees with me on illegal immigration, I am not giving her a pass on this.

You hit it, man.
Screw that bitch!

[Canarsie]

As a resident of NJ there is only going to be two issues that will define the next 4 years for Christie. If he enacts toll roads on I-195 or raises tolls ( I hope not!!!) and if property taxes go lower.

Corzine was even beaten in heavily Democratic Middlesex County mainly because of the toll increase. In more Republican Monmouth he got thumped that's even a longer commute. Commuters and property owners can be a very angry lot.

The teacher issue will go away it's just a tit for tat right now. Many are retiring because they will lose benefits and the next generation won't care as much. The only way it hurts him is if education scores go down. I don't really see that happening but could be wrong.

[boxcar]

I have also read that her family blames the air in the bomb factory for being filled with asbestos, therefore causing her fathers lung problems.

I don't think it is too far a jump to make the statement she made. Maybe not technically accurate, but in the same thought process I can see.

That's exactly how I see it. Probably in an emotional moment she "embellished" the cause of his death, which not directly attributable to being in a war zone, but was indirectly attributable to building munitions for the war effort -- the effort that actually did contribute to his death. I certainly wouldn't have chosen the words she used if it had been my father, but it's understandable; for she may have been very close to her dad.

Also, it's not as though she told a lie about herself like that low life did who claimed he was in Vietnam. Her "lie" (if you want to characterize it as such) was not told for selfish reasons or for purposes of self-aggrandizement.

Boxcar

[Overlay]

Christie\Palin ......2012. The pot has been stirred.

Would Palin settle for the second spot again?

[bigmack]

Also, it's not as though she told a lie about herself like that low life did who claimed he was in Vietnam. Her "lie" (if you want to characterize it as such) was not told for selfish reasons or for purposes of self-aggrandizement.

Bingo. As if this is even worth talking about.

& Tom, between this & Blumenthal they're not even in the same planet.

[skate]

if you get rid of the second part of that lineup you got a real shot, she would kill any ticket in 2012, she's just hated by too many people. granted she's loved and adored by many, but those are all people that would vote for her party anyways. i've never heard one liberal or even moderate who would vote for her. plus she'd probably quit a year into it anyways, and at $12 mil a year, i wouldn't blame her!

OK, you expect to find someone who'd vote for her, while she is Not running:eek:

Ballsey, get a hold of YOURSELF, let go the hatred:)

[Rookies]

I can't differentiate her comments from the sleazebag in Conn.
It was a lie no matter how much lipstick you put on it.

The lesson we are learning here is that never, ever, ever, trust, believe or support a politician. Support or oppose ideas, but never let the person into it. All of them, no matter the party, are not to be trusted. No one deserves any respect whatsoever.

Tom has nailed it perfectly.:ThmbUp: Sorry- doesn't look good on you Ralph, that you're trying to join the usual go-down-with-the-Con-ship suspects like Boxcar & Big Mack on this one.

Her motive was likely the opposite of Blumenthal- not self promotion, but the mirror of the paradigm- playing a strong defence while under considerable pressure. Some of you can go through all the mental gyrations to prop up the 'home' team.

Bottom line: she lied through fabrication of her dad's war record, a growing affliction it would appear, when stories of the military are raised.End of story.

[skate]

And Paaaaalease, let us not excrete those that LIE, hence, we'd have nothing for the Neo-cons to run AGAINST.:bang:

[bigmack]

Bottom line: she lied through fabrication of her dad's war record, a growing affliction it would appear, when stories of the military are raised.End of story.
Don't weigh-in too heavily. Your opinion doesn't matter. Wrong country don't ya know.

[skate]

Tom has nailed it perfectly.:ThmbUp: Sorry- doesn't look good on you Ralph, that you're trying to join the usual go-down-with-the-Con-ship suspects like Boxcar & Big Mack on this one.

Her motive was likely the opposite of Blumenthal- not self promotion, but the mirror of the paradigm- playing a strong defence while under considerable pressure. Some of you can go through all the mental gyrations to prop up the 'home' team.

Bottom line: she lied through fabrication of her dad's war record, a growing affliction it would appear, when stories of the military are raised.End of story.


Yeh baby, i guess she figures because her dad worked at Munitions making, which were to defeat Hitler, and he caught some damage to his Lungs, somehow this should give her protection from those neo-libs, here under civil disobedience, from name (i guess false) calling.
Like maybe she has something against the Name Hitler.

She might get really pissed if they call her "Hussein".

the begen

[boxcar]

Tom has nailed it perfectly.:ThmbUp: Sorry- doesn't look good on you Ralph, that you're trying to join the usual go-down-with-the-Con-ship suspects like Boxcar & Big Mack on this one.

Her motive was likely the opposite of Blumenthal- not self promotion, but the mirror of the paradigm- playing a strong defence while under considerable pressure. Some of you can go through all the mental gyrations to prop up the 'home' team.

Bottom line: she lied through fabrication of her dad's war record, a growing affliction it would appear, when stories of the military are raised.End of story.

End of story only to simpletons. Ironically, only to those who claim they see shades of gray in everything in life, but only in black and white when it comes to conservatives. :rolleyes:

Which is the least evil?

A. Lies for self-promotion
B. Malicious lies designed to hurt another
C. Lies, embellishments or exaggerations about some loved one's cause of death.

Yes, all lying is sinful but not all lies are created equal. And I can support that from scripture!

I think in many people's minds, they would consider a loved one's death to be war-related even if the loved one was indirectly involved in the effort. The irrefutable fact remains that he was involved. He did contribute to the war effort. And that contribution was directly responsible for his demise. So...it's not that much of stretch to say that he "fought Nazis" -- although, I personally wouldn't have framed it in those terms. She probably expressed it that way out of an emotional response. After all, it was her dad.

But feel free to make mountains out little mole hills. I fully understand that morally-impoverished liberalism/socialism/progressivism offers so few opportunities (as in none :rolleyes: ) to wax righteously indignant or self-righteous; therefore, the best you and your ilk can do is to take the occasional cheap shot for your equally as cheap feel good moment.

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

So what if her lie is "less" than that of that jerk in Connecticut. She still lied. You just willing to forgive her because she one of your own. If a liberal had done this, you be all over them. That is your right, but it is pretty sad.

[ArlJim78]

boxcar nails it. it's making a mountain out of a molehill. this is the best they can come up with, that the lady possibly slightly embellished her fathers record? she did not lie. to me it is not comparable at all to lying about your own whereabouts during the war in order to pump up your military street cred.

funny how these people with such laserlike focus on truth detection never once raise an eyebrow concerning the liar-in-chief and his extensive history of falsehoods.

[boxcar]

So what if her lie is "less" than that of that jerk in Connecticut. She still lied. You just willing to forgive her because she one of your own. If a liberal had done this, you be all over them. That is your right, but it is pretty sad.

No, let me define for you is really sad: Your lack of TOLERANCE and understanding for someone who at worst told a "white lie". Isn't tolerance toward others supposed to be the cornerstone to liberalism? Aren't you guys supposed to see shades of gray in virtually everything in life? From where I sit, you're just another run-of-the-mill, ho-hum hypocrite.

And I"m not defending her per se, but simply offering a perspective on something that really isn't a big deal -- except to those who are already running a deep moral deficit.

Boxcar

[bigmack]

Goren & Rookies have nothing to say about Helen Thomas or Blumenthal though they paint anyone pointing out the ridiculousness of this incident as defending 'their team'.

How sad. :lol:

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[Robert Goren]

Goren & Rookies have nothing to say about Helen Thomas or Blumenthal though they paint anyone pointing out the ridiculousness of this incident as defending 'their team'.

How sad. :lol:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/dazed024-1.gifI have posted plenty about that jerk, Blumenthal. The sad part is that he going win anyway because the liberal equivalent of people like you are willing overlook this. At least he was in the military, I not even sure that Brewer's father was. Maybe someone could find that out as I couldn't. As for Helen Thomas, I have not gotten around to posting about her yet. I will say this much now, she has been making a fool out of herself since I was in high school. Class of 1966.

[bigmack]

Van Susteren asked, “All the politicians – we’re fact checking everything you say… Mr. Blumenthal in Connecticut got hit… said something about Viet Nam and he hadn’t served. You’re getting hit by your newspaper for some… I’m asking what you said about the Nazis and your father.

Brewer told the story about her father making bombs in World War II at a munitions factory and, as a result of the toxic fumes, became disabled and died when she was young.

Brewer continued, “I have a very interesting story in regards to my life… It’s unfortunate that there are people out there, in fact I believe it’s pathetic, that they want to spin something to the fact that I have said this or I have said in respect to what he did for his country… Everybody went to work (on behalf of the war effort)… and for them to embellish and pathetically try to twist that into something ugly is ridiculous. I have determined at this point in time that I’m just not going to give it any more notice because it’s so wrong.”
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She said that the paper had quoted Brewer as saying, “the Nazis killed (my) father.” Brewer was actually quoted as saying her father had “died fighting the Nazi regime in Germany.”

“I never said that,” Brewer replied, accurately, I presume, about Van Susteren's faulty quote (which she admitted may not have been correct). Brewer continued, stumbling as she spoke, “I said, ‘My father died fighting the German regimen (sic) of Hitler.’ And he did. He was building the bombs. I never said he was overseas. I never once said he was in the military.” No, but she implied it. :lol: And she seemed to acknowledge that by adding, “If my choice of words were odd, so be it.”
http://www.newshounds.us/2010/06/04/van_susteren_inquires_about_brewers_fathers_war_re cord.php
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Brewer ain't the most articulate person in the world. She said he died as a result of ingesting fumes, et al. in his position of building munitions to be used against the Nazi regime. Or as she put it regimen. :rolleyes:

WOW. What a damn liar she is. Trying to prop-up the career of her father 55 years ago. She is just another lying POS politician. Tom what right afterall.

She should resign immediately. :p

Now, how 'bout that Christie? :ThmbUp:

[skate]

Robert
why you old fart you;)

[boxcar]

I have posted plenty about that jerk, Blumenthal. The sad part is that he going win anyway because the liberal equivalent of people like you are willing overlook this. At least he was in the military, I not even sure that Brewer's father was. Maybe someone could find that out as I couldn't. As for Helen Thomas, I have not gotten around to posting about her yet. I will say this much now, she has been making a fool out of herself since I was in high school. Class of 1966.

Brewer's dad wasn't in the military. He did his part for the war effort in a munitions factory.

Boxcar

[Robert Goren]

Brewer's dad wasn't in the military. He did his part for the war effort in a munitions factory.

BoxcarThank you for finding that.

[Tom]

Far enough over the line for me. It was a lie.
No wiggle room for any pol. Ever. :ThmbDown::ThmbDown::ThmbDown:

[bigmack]

Far enough over the line for me. It was a lie.
No wiggle room for any pol. Ever. :ThmbDown::ThmbDown::ThmbDown:
A lie for what?

[Robert Goren]

Gov Christie can't even keep his race track running.:rolleyes:

[Rookies]

End of story only to simpletons. Ironically, only to those who claim they see shades of gray in everything in life, but only in black and white when it comes to conservatives.



Which is the least evil?



A. Lies for self-promotion

B. Malicious lies designed to hurt another

C. Lies, embellishments or exaggerations about some loved one's cause of death.



Yes, all lying is sinful but not all lies are created equal. And I can support that from scripture!



I think in many people's minds, they would consider a loved one's death to be war-related even if the loved one was indirectly involved in the effort. The irrefutable fact remains that he was involved. He did contribute to the war effort. And that contribution was directly responsible for his demise. So...it's not that much of stretch to say that he "fought Nazis" -- although, I personally wouldn't have framed it in those terms. She probably expressed it that way out of an emotional response. After all, it was her dad.



But feel free to make mountains out little mole hills. I fully understand that morally-impoverished liberalism/socialism/progressivism offers so few opportunities (as in none ) to wax righteously indignant or self-righteous; therefore, the best you and your ilk can do is to take the occasional cheap shot for your equally as cheap feel good moment.



Boxcar



I never thought you a simpleton, but on this one, now I'm not so sure. As is your usual wont, you have demanded the verbiage and it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she said what she said... So, an obtuse simpleton ?



Naw. Rather, a willful Con polemicist fraud; one who clearly demands a higher and qualitatively different standard for the Left than the Right. You, and most of your fellow travelers here, would not and have not waited one millisecond to bring up the errant words of somebody from the other side. But, in this case, it is hilarious… no frankly schadenfreude… to watch a few of you twisting in the wind with your mental gymnastics to find a road out of the maze for Lyin’ Brewer.



Being none, you have moved on to that old classic:

“Probably in an emotional moment she "embellished" the cause of his death”

Ah yes, when nothing else is left, out comes the ‘emotion’ card to cover the b.s.


Let me help you out here without any syllogism, 3 Card Monte or Con sleight of hand.

1) MY father, unlike Brewer’s, was an active member of the Armed Forces.

2) He served in the Canadian Navy during WW2.

3) His war time service from 1944-45 was restricted to patrolling Canadian waters off the Atlantic to detect U-Boats and prevent any possible attacks on Canadian shores.

4) His service was similar to my father-in-law who served in the U.S. Army and was stationed in Alaska to insure that similar attacks didn't occur on American territory.

5) Neither, I’m pretty sure, faced the enemy in combat.

6) NEITHER of these good men could or did ever say that they were: “ fighting the Nazi regime in Germany”.

And they both served. :ThmbUp:

GOT IT?

And finally, Big Mack, when he’s got nada, plays what has become the Ugly American, O.T. jingoism card: “Don't weigh-in too heavily. Your opinion doesn't matter. Wrong country don't ya know.”:sleeping:

What I do know, is that chestnut is old and boring, especially for persons like yourself that troll the planet on the Net, trying to find any commentary/video/audio/bite supportive of your position, regardless of country or continent.
Do a little better, will ya ?

[JustRalph]

6) NEITHER of these good men could or did ever say that they were: “ fighting the Nazi regime in Germany”.[/font][/color]

And they both served. :ThmbUp:



I think you might be doing them a disservice. I would think that any War Related effort, especially doing Naval Patrols for Subs would qualify when it comes to "fighting the Nazi regime" Hell, would you say the same thing about the Female Airplane Ferry Pilots who flew fighters and Bombers around in Non Combat zones ? I think supervising a Bomb making operation for Bombs that were dropped on the Germans qualifies for helping to "fight the Nazi regime"

If you don't think it's dangerous working in a Bomb making plant.......that's your prerogative and you can stand on it. But everybody did their part from what I read about WWII. Supervising a bomb plant sounds like an integral part of the War effort to me. It doesn't excuse the way she said it. But I don't think it is any reason to deprecate what the guy did, or what your relatives did for that matter.

[Tom]

Her father died in 1955?
That is not the way she spun it.
That is what I called a lie.
Not diminishing what HE did, just what SHE said.
HE did it for his country. SHE said it to help herself.

[Rookies]

I think you might be doing them a disservice. But I don't think it is any reason to deprecate what the guy did, or what your relatives did for that matter.

Ralph, I don't at all deprecate what he did for the Allied war effort. Nor am I suggesting that, a la Vietnam and other theatres of war, he ever attempted to shirk his service, by performing work in amunitions factor- which sadly caused his later demise. And of course, I'm not denying the actual war service of members of my family. Maybe, I'm a little harder than most, but I can draw a distinction between various efforts within the service and those that occurred, say 56 years ago today!:ThmbUp:

The bottom line is that the politician's father said nada. It was the Pol who used him in an illustration clearly designed to suggest that he was in some sort of combat role. And again, like Blumenthal's lie, designed to impress and enhance something that was simply not true for her own benefit.

On this Tom & I are agreed. Today and unfortunately, you can never trust anything today out of a politician's mouth. EVERY claim needs to be fact checked.

[bigmack]

I've seen the light. This broad is a phony & a bald faced liar who in response to La Raza types who accused her of being a Nazi by attempting to enforce the law regarding illegal aliens and who had the same types camped outside her home for two days protesting & chanting, CLEARLY LIED about the work of her Pops.

She said this for her own aggrandizement and it has certainly made me question the integrity of virtually every politician. They are liars & phonies.

This is one of the most egregious examples of a self centered POS politician saying something for her own benefit that I've ever seen.

This woman should be impeached. I just hope AZ can find someone with some level of integrity that won't be a lying SOS.

How disgusting. :ThmbDown:

[bigmack]

Now that the outrage of Brewer has blown over, as if it mattered to anyone with a brain...

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[delayjf]

Olbermann has zero credibility covering this issue - didn't he claim to attend Cornell when in fact he went to Cornell Agg?

[JustRalph]

Olbermann has zero credibility covering this issue - didn't he claim to attend Cornell when in fact he went to Cornell Agg?

He majored in Manure apparently

[boxcar]

He majored in Manure apparently

And we can tell that he passed those courses with flying shades of brown!

Boxcar

[bigmack]

The fearless leader of the motley crew. mostpost, goren, njsmelleth, hcap...

This is the top of their class. Heck of a class.

Short bus works for this gang of nerds.

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