Go Ahead with that Arizona Boycott....in the Dark

[JustRalph]

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/18/az-utility-board-member-responds-to-la-boycott-over-sb1070/

From the link:

Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona. Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)

I received your message; please receive mine. As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

Sincerely,

Commissioner Gary Pierce

[DJofSD]

LA City needs to boycott California too: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/17/la-city-councilman-blasts-az-law-for-provisions-in-ca-penal-code/

[bigmack]

The insanity of misinformation about AZ 1070 has been a joy to watch. They're all either liars or idiots. From Obama to Holder to Napalitano to Los Angeles to San Francisco to that woman who kiboshed the Chicago girls volleyball team.

They're all dishonest, knowingly ill-informed & just plain wrong.

[GaryG]

That LA mayor had no idea what the bill was about, just that it was "Anti-Latino". I like Arizona better all the time. Bring it on LA, just get out the candles.

[ElKabong]

A lot of supply chain pros are coming to AZ's aid the past few days. If it comes at the expense of LA, then all the better. If hardheads wanted to piss off people to the point of directing businesses' $$ away from them, LA and SF have succeeded. So did St Paul, MN.

As for the Commish...that guy and his bosses have balls. BIG balls. Wish Texas was run like this.

[boxcar]

The insanity of misinformation about AZ 1070 has been a joy to watch. They're all either liars or idiots. From Obama to Holder to Napalitano to Los Angeles to San Francisco to that woman who kiboshed the Chicago girls volleyball team.

They're all dishonest, knowingly ill-informed & just plain wrong.

None of the above even read the AZ bill that's only 10 pages in length, yet they freely speak out of their ignorance to criticize and condemn something about which they know nothing.

Boxcar

[Tom]

Texas
Arizona


The NEW republic is taking shape.
Whatever will the left do without other to leech from?


Long live the NEWnited States.

(Los Angeles? We don't need no steenking Los Angeles)

[PaceAdvantage]

The insanity of misinformation about AZ 1070 has been a joy to watch. They're all either liars or idiots. From Obama to Holder to Napalitano to Los Angeles to San Francisco to that woman who kiboshed the Chicago girls volleyball team.

They're all dishonest, knowingly ill-informed & just plain wrong.Agree 100%. It would be refreshing to see all border states (not just the southern border either) adopt similar measures as a sign of support and unity over this massive problem that nobody at the Federal level has had the balls to deal with over the past gazillion years....

[sandpit]

We could solve this entire problem and eliminate the national debt in one fell swoop by selling the southern half of California and all of Arizona (except the Grand Canyon) to Mexico. With one stipulation: that none of their new or pre-existing citizens enter our newly-redrawn border.

[BlueShoe]

This has been big news in SoCal since it broke. Commissioner Pierce has been getting many thumbs up from those of us that wish to see secure borders and our laws enforced. On the other hand, Tony V., the womanizing, member of the radical MEChA, inept Los Angeles mayor, is a man that never met an illegal alien that he did not like. He and the LA city council are pawns to, and are aligned with, the pro illegal block in California. What LA officials did not consider is that boycotts can work both ways. Time for, "Lights out Baby"?
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/18/arizona-dares-los-angeles-to-carry-out-boycott/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/18/arizona-dares-los-angeles-to-carry-out-boycott/)

[JustRalph]

Today Obama lets the President of Mexico stand in the White House and condemn Arizona......... get real......... :bang:

The most Corrupt Government in the world lecturing us from the White House.

[boxcar]

Today Obama lets the President of Mexico stand in the White House and condemn Arizona......... get real......... :bang:

The most Corrupt Government in the world lecturing us from the White House.

And what does this say about the moral state of our government, since BO was obviously in agreement with this guy?

Boxcar

[bigmack]

People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

Sincerely,

Commissioner Gary Pierce
This dude is officially one of the good guys in this mind-boggling saga. :ThmbUp:

http://www.garypierceforarizona.com/images/Commissioner%20Pierce%20taking%20Oath.jpg

Tony Villar, mayor of LA, has just said he will not respond to threats!!! :lol:

[Tom]

Today Obama lets the President of Mexico stand in the White House and condemn Arizona......... get real......... :bang:

The most Corrupt Government in the world lecturing us from the White House.

And The AHOLE n Chief stands there and lets him.
I would have punched the POSs light out and then held him hostage for reparations.

[JustRalph]

http://www.democraticstuff.com/common/images/products/large/BT46150.jpg

[Robert Goren]

Arizona called LA's bluff and raised them all in.;)

[delayjf]

Today Obama lets the President of Mexico stand in the White House and condemn Arizona

An even bigger irony here is that Mexico's Immigration law is a lot tougher than ours.

[slewis]

Agree 100%. It would be refreshing to see all border states (not just the southern border either) adopt similar measures as a sign of support and unity over this massive problem that nobody at the Federal level has had the balls to deal with over the past gazillion years....


100% wrong PA,

It will only be refreshing if the border states ENFORCE the measures.

The laws have been around for decades....

[boxcar]

An even bigger irony here is that Mexico's Immigration law is a lot tougher than ours.

Wouldn't that make all of Mexico a racist nation. Mexico would make AZ look like small fry -- if the Great State of Arizona was really a bigoted state.

Boxcar

[PaceAdvantage]

100% wrong PA,

It will only be refreshing if the border states ENFORCE the measures.

The laws have been around for decades....That's kind of my point though. Laws have been around, and they are not being enforced, which leads states like Arizona to up the ante, and in the process, shine a big bright spotlight on exactly how screwed up it all is...

[ArlJim78]

the laws have not been around for years at the state level. the federal laws have been around, and just not enforced adequately. but at least for arizona this is the first foray into immigration.

[Tom]

Failure to secure the border and to allow the murder and kidnapping of Americana citizens is, to me, treason. Both Bush and Ovomit should be tried and when found guilt,dealt with as the law prescribes.
Neither one is fit to live in this country.

[cuzimahustler]

We are part owner of both power plants, which are generating assets of the Department. As such, nothing in the City’s resolution is inconsistent with our continuing to receive power from those LADWP-owned assets.

http://www.ladwpnews.com/go/doc/1475/555479/

nice try az. next :lol:

[Tom]

LA is a disgrace to this country. End of story.

[newtothegame]

I find it amazing that people like yourself can laugh at a state who is struggling to just have its government and the overall government ENFORCE its laws that are and have been on the books. not too mention the UNnecessary cost to even YOURSELF (providing you are a tax payer). But keep laughing....wont be alot to laugh at the way things are currently headed. :bang:

[cj's dad]

I just spent a whopping 8 minutes reading Arizona bill1070. It does nothing but give Arizona law enforcement officers the power to enforce existing federal statutes.

NOWHERE does it give any officer the right to randomly stop a person based on appearance, skin color, dialect etc...

The POSPOTUS and his criminal sidekicks have little choice but to declare that they have not read the bill. Were they to admit to reading it, and they still declared it a discriminatory piece of legislation, they would appear foolish; make that more foolish than they normally appear to be.

[DJofSD]

They probably haven't read the Constitution either.

[Show Me the Wire]

We are part owner of both power plants, which are generating assets of the Department. As such, nothing in the City’s resolution is inconsistent with our continuing to receive power from those LADWP-owned assets.

http://www.ladwpnews.com/go/doc/1475/555479/

nice try az. next :lol:


I would think you would want to divest yourself of the Palo Verde Plant, because your continuing financial investment goes against the idea of boycott. Of course LA wouldn't want to boycott the accepting power form the Great State of Arizona as it would cause a hardship to LA.

The energy commissioner's letter exposes the hypocrisy of LA's boycott of Arizona business’, as does your posting.

[bigmack]

This just in...The head of ICE said:

A top Department of Homeland Security official reportedly said his agency will not necessarily process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona authorities.

John Morton, assistant secretary of homeland security for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, made the comment during a meeting on Wednesday with the editorial board of the Chicago Tribune, the newspaper reports.

"I don't think the Arizona law, or laws like it, are the solution," Morton told the newspaper.

The best way to reduce illegal immigration is through a comprehensive federal approach, he said, and not a patchwork of state laws.

The law, which criminalizes being in the state illegally and requires authorities to check suspects for immigration status, is not "good government," Morton said.

So not only do they not want to secure the border they're unwilling to carry out due process? Have they read polls of what a vast majority of people favor?

[Show Me the Wire]

bigmack:

The fed's declining to deport is not a big problem. The cure for the problem is the criminality of the act as the Arizona conviction would be a bar to gaining citizenship, the ultimate prize.

[DJofSD]

Just remember, that is the management speaking. The rank and file want to do their job and do what is required by law.

[boxcar]

bigmack:

The fed's declining to deport is not a big problem. The cure for the problem is the criminality of the act as the Arizona conviction would be a bar to gaining citizenship, the ultimate prize.

Really? Ever hear about an animal called a "presidential pardon"? You can believe those convictions would be overturned in a heartbeat. This is the most arrogant, in-your-face, anti-American government in the history of this country. They care not a whit about what the majority of the electorate wants. For all practical intent and purposes, this country is currently under the thumb of a dictator. There isn't very much a Dem-controlled government can't do.

Boxcar

[bigmack]

Senator Sessions is now asking for the resignation of Morton.

[ArlJim78]

I don't believe ICE will be able to get away with selectively not processing illegals. For example those that come from Arizona. Its not their call, whether or not they agree with the AZ law. the statement made is irresponsible. of course with this regime any kind of lawlessness is possible.

[JustRalph]

That works for me. Now they can change the law to impose the death penalty on conviction. :lol:

We can always build a nice Gitmo in Arizona and force the prisoners to work to pay for it. I have lots of Idea's

[Robert Goren]

I don't believe ICE will be able to get away with selectively not processing illegals. For example those that come from Arizona. Its not their call, whether or not they agree with the AZ law. the statement made is irresponsible. of course with this regime any kind of lawlessness is possible. ICE has for years and years, what make you think that they would change now. We did just suddenly get 12 million illegal immigrants the day Obama became president.

[boxcar]

That works for me. Now they can change the law to impose the death penalty on conviction. :lol:

We can always build a nice Gitmo in Arizona and force the prisoners to work to pay for it. I have lots of Idea's

That's a great idea! Since the "messiah" isn't really the Messiah, so he won't be able to raise the dead. But...we're going to have execute them very quickly before the ACLU comes up with a "cruel and unusual punishment" appeal. :D

Boxcar

[newtothegame]

ICE has for years and years, what make you think that they would change now. We did just suddenly get 12 million illegal immigrants the day Obama became president.
sadly, your right....

May 17, 2010, 2:50 pm
Obama’s Aunt Is Granted Asylum

By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE (/author/katharine-q-seelye/)BOSTON — An immigration judge has granted asylum to President Obama’s aunt and will allow her to stay in the United States, her lawyers said Monday. She could become a citizen in about six years.

Zeituni Onyango, 57, who lives in public housing in Boston, is the half-sister of Mr. Obama’s late father and is from Kenya. She moved to the United States in 2000 on a valid visa and has been seeking asylum since 2002.

Judge Leonard Shapiro, an immigration judge in Boston, reached his decision in the long-running case on Friday. Her lawyers announced the decision Monday at their offices in Cleveland.

Ms. Onyango applied for asylum in 2002 and was rejected in 2004 and ordered to leave the country. She continued to fight the case and in April 2009, Judge Leonard Shapiro in Boston stayed her case until February, when hearings were held in the case.

Ms. Onyango had lived in relative anonymity in Boston until just before the 2008 presidential election, when The Times of London found her in what it described as “rundown public housing.”

At the time, Mr. Obama’s aides said that he did not know his aunt was in the United States illegally and that “any and all appropriate laws” covering her situation should be followed. The aides said he would not intervene in her case and that the two had had no contact.

It turned out that Ms. Onyango made small contributions to Mr. Obama’s campaign, amounting to $265, but the campaign returned them. She attended Mr. Obama’s inauguration in January in Washington but the two did not see each other.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/obamas-aunt-is-granted-asylum/

[newtothegame]

Some people in Cali have their sanity....

Updated May 20, 2010

Calif. City Takes Stand Against Illegal Immigration as Ariz. Boycott Battle Rages

A California city mere miles from the metropolis that imposed a boycott on Arizona over its immigration law has just weighed in on the other side of the debate -- voting to declare itself a "Rule of Law City" where illegal immigrants are not welcome.

The decision by the Costa Mesa City Council comes after the Los Angeles City Council voted last week to suspend official travel to Arizona and end future contracts with state in protest of Arizona's immigration policy. That decision sparked a war of words between Los Angeles and Arizona officials, who this week warned the city their Arizona-based power supply could be at risk.

Several other local governments across the country have proposed or implemented similar boycotts on Arizona since the law passed last month. But Costa Mesa's declaration puts it on the other side of the fence, as a counterweight to those jurisdictions that have declared themselves "sanctuary cities" for illegal immigrants.

Mayor Allan Mansoor told Fox News on Thursday that the "Rule of Law" resolution should "set the tone" for tougher policies to come. As Arizona officers are now empowered to do, Mansoor said Costa Mesa law enforcement should be able to ask suspects for proof of legal residency.

"It's the right thing to do," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/20/california-city-takes-stand-illegal-immigration-az-boycott-battle-rages/

[Tom]

I don't believe ICE will be able to get away with selectively not processing illegals. For example those that come from Arizona. Its not their call, whether or not they agree with the AZ law. the statement made is irresponsible. of course with this regime any kind of lawlessness is possible.

If they do, the AZ just busses them ALL to DC and release them - in front of FOX cameras - in front of the WH and the Capital building. But not until Sheriff Joe fits them all for pink shirts! :lol:

[HUSKER55]

How can CA impact anything? They are broke. They still don't see their problem.