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HUSKER55
04-18-2010, 03:42 PM
demand that ALL ELECTED officials had to serve in the armed forces.

no exceptions. army or navy or marines


your thoughts?

Robert Goren
04-18-2010, 03:53 PM
Well that would get rid of chicken hawks like Dick Cheney. I would settle for slime-balls not questioning patriotism of people injured action. JMO

ArlJim78
04-18-2010, 04:08 PM
we might want to also avoid electing presidents with lifelong associations with domestic terrorists. i think that's only common sense though.

GaryG
04-18-2010, 04:29 PM
Well that would get rid of chicken hawks like Dick Cheney.Non to mention draft dodgers like slick willie and whatever you want to call that Kenyan that is now in charge.

Robert Goren
04-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Of the last bunch of president only Bush 41 had any real combat experience. Although others served only LBJ, JFK and Bush 41 could be said to be combat veterans in last half century.

bigmack
04-18-2010, 04:40 PM
Of the last bunch of president only Bush 41 had any real combat experience.
Wrong. Dub'ya took on enemy fire qualifying him to put combat experience on his resume.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1630-political-bush-three-s.gif

boxcar
04-18-2010, 04:55 PM
Non to mention draft dodgers like slick willie and whatever you want to call that Kenyan that is now in charge.

Oh yeah...that one who to this day is still murdering civilians in Afghanistan. Yet...nary a wimper from any of his sheeple or the MM.

Boxcar

Tom
04-18-2010, 05:28 PM
Get rid of 47% of the people.

fast4522
04-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Outlaw any money being spent on any individual in this country illegally.

JustRalph
04-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Does it really matter anymore ?

Charlie Rangel has a silver star and a purple heart.

Look what a Turd he turned into

Show Me the Wire
04-18-2010, 06:38 PM
your thoughts?

Term limits

Buckeye
04-18-2010, 07:27 PM
I don't agree with term limits but people have to realize when they vote for somebody it matters.

Lincoln had no combat experience so no, that should not disqualify anyone.

Jefferson had no combat experience either.

Reagan didn't have it. That's three off the top of my head. :)

lamboguy
04-18-2010, 07:35 PM
find more dynamic peraonalities like sarah palin and michelle bachman, and have them lead the teaparty and get rid of all these rotten bankers.

fast4522
04-18-2010, 08:28 PM
find more dynamic peraonalities like sarah palin and michelle bachman, and have them lead the teaparty and get rid of all these rotten bankers.

Not al bankers are rotten, just the ones from The Bilderberg Group.

lamboguy
04-18-2010, 08:58 PM
find more dynamic peraonalities like sarah palin and michelle bachman, and have them lead the teaparty and get rid of all these rotten bankers.

Not al bankers are rotten, just the ones from The Bilderberg Group.
does that make former presidents ford and clinton rotten?

does that make the present govenor from texas, perry, present governor from south carolina sanford, and present senators hagel and feinstein, all rotten. i guess it does. then we should get rid of them too!

those are all biderberg participants presently in office

boxcar
04-18-2010, 09:06 PM
does that make former presidents ford and clinton rotten?

does that make the present govenor from texas, perry, present governor from south carolina sanford, and present senators hagel and feinstein, all rotten. i guess it does. then we should get rid of them too!

those are all biderberg participants presently in office

Would not the better question be: Why would any of these desire to attend and participate in meetings with a communistic agenda?

Boxcar

fast4522
04-18-2010, 11:28 PM
That is not how I copy and pasted it, just like Television right!

Robert Goren
04-18-2010, 11:40 PM
does that make former presidents ford and clinton rotten?

does that make the present govenor from texas, perry, present governor from south carolina sanford, and present senators hagel and feinstein, all rotten. i guess it does. then we should get rid of them too!

those are all biderberg participants presently in officeChuck Hagel is no longer in the Senate. He was replaced by Mike Johanns in 2008. Hagel was a Sargent in the Vietnam War and earned several medals and was wounded twice. He was a hero over there. He also the phony son of bitch you would ever want to meet since he entered politics. My late mother could spot those guys a mile away. Something about the hair. JMO

NJ Stinks
04-19-2010, 12:33 AM
What would help America the most? A quick short list off the top of my head:

1. term limits for Congressmen
2. Campaign contributions from any entity is limited to $50 per candidate per election except what we check off on our federal and state tax returns
3. Bring back the draft
4. Make the top three tax brackets 30, 35, and 40 instead of the 28, 33, and 36 we have today
5. Bring back tariffs and dump these free trade agreements

riskman
04-19-2010, 12:41 AM
Wrong. Dub'ya took on enemy fire qualifying him to put combat experience on his resume.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/1630-political-bush-three-s.gif

Yeah, but he didn't get a Purple Heart.

bigmack
04-19-2010, 12:48 AM
2. election except what we check off on our federal and state tax returns
3. Bring back the draft
4. Make the top three tax brackets 30, 35, and 40 instead of the 28, 33, and 36 we have today
5. Bring back tariffs and dump these free trade agreements
I never thought I'd say something like this as I cling to a youthful attitude but your world is looking like something meant for another country.

Do you have the slightest idea the uniqueness of this country that you have been a part of for many years?

NJ Stinks
04-19-2010, 12:55 AM
I never thought I'd say something like this as I cling to a youthful attitude but your world is looking like something meant for another country.

Do you have the slightest idea the uniqueness of this country that you have been a part of for many years?

OK, Mack. What's your solution?

Greyfox
04-19-2010, 12:57 AM
This thread starts asking : What would help America the most?
Simply stated : Today's debt = Tomorrow's Taxes.

Government proposals including the Health Care idea are taking America into bankruptcy. It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to see that revenue is not the problem, spending is out of control.

Below is the link to the National Debt Clock. Look at it. You be the Judge.

http://www.babylontoday.com/national_debt_clock.htm

PaceAdvantage
04-19-2010, 04:45 AM
OK, Mack. What's your solution?First solution: stop with the silly notion that EVERYTHING can or needs to be FIXED!

rastajenk
04-19-2010, 06:08 AM
Amen...especially by politics.

sandpit
04-19-2010, 08:18 AM
I just heard on the news that a poll published by Pew Report (sp?) found that nearly 80% of Americans don't trust the federal government...sounds to me like the solution would be to correspondingly disband 80% of the beauracracy and leave us with the essentials: military protection and infrastructure stability.

One caveat: I would keep the national park system federally administered. Most anything Teddy Roosevelt championed is worthy of consideration.

jballscalls
04-19-2010, 09:40 AM
First solution: stop with the silly notion that EVERYTHING can or needs to be FIXED!

Exactly!! We (the citizens) make america great, not politicians or policies. I would think making the family a strong solid unit again would solidify our greatness much more than a tax code would.

we are great!

hazzardm
04-19-2010, 10:56 AM
16% flat income tax, with NO DEDUCTIONS except for certified charities.

Tom
04-19-2010, 11:43 AM
10%

boxcar
04-19-2010, 11:53 AM
Exactly!! We (the citizens) make america great, not politicians or policies. I would think making the family a strong solid unit again would solidify our greatness much more than a tax code would.

we are great!

Just remember: The Freedom Chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Boxcar

boxcar
04-19-2010, 12:02 PM
10%

A tax on man's labors is abhorrent. The fairest and most transparent tax of all would be a consumption tax. After the 16th Amendment is repealed, this would abolish the IRS forever. It would bring down the phony multi-billion dollar tax industry. April 15th would just be another day in paradise. AND...American businesses would be placed in a much better competitive position. In short, there is no upside to any income tax, but plenty of benefits to a national sales tax, including the fact that consumers pretty much get to control what goes into the federal treasury through their spending.

Boxcar

ArlJim78
04-19-2010, 12:24 PM
First solution: stop with the silly notion that EVERYTHING can or needs to be FIXED!
yes, they need too stop fixing things. I'll never understand why people think government is capable of fixing anything. How many times do you hear that although the plan is bad that "we must do something". Why must we do something? Each and every time government does something, it turns into a debacle that guess what?, has to be fixed AGAIN by government.

People, government cannot fix things for you. Fix it yourself or live with it.

lamboguy
04-19-2010, 01:51 PM
A tax on man's labors is abhorrent. The fairest and most transparent tax of all would be a consumption tax. After the 16th Amendment is repealed, this would abolish the IRS forever. It would bring down the phony multi-billion dollar tax industry. April 15th would just be another day in paradise. AND...American businesses would be placed in a much better competitive position. In short, there is no upside to any income tax, but plenty of benefits to a national sales tax, including the fact that consumers pretty much get to control what goes into the federal treasury through their spending.

Boxcar
you obviously love this current president, he plans on introducing this tax during his administration
to pay for all his programs. only problem is that he doesn't plan on getting rid of the current income tax system. almost like they have in all the socialist countries in europe.

boxcar
04-19-2010, 01:54 PM
yes, they need too stop fixing things. I'll never understand why people think government is capable of fixing anything. How many times do you hear that although the plan is bad that "we must do something". Why must we do something? Each and every time government does something, it turns into a debacle that guess what?, has to be fixed AGAIN by government.

People, government cannot fix things for you. Fix it yourself or live with it.

Evidently, you haven't heard about the new "freedom" that Government has been marketing all these years -- and quite successfully, I might add. This new freedom provides for all kinds of fixes. The "old" freedom (or traditional freedom, if you will), dealt with our inalienable rights -- Liberty being among these. And true liberty is freedom FROM tyranny or coercion, among other things. And this freedom insures our freedom TO make our own individual and personal choices.

But the new "freedom" that the state has been pushing on us is freedom FROM Personal Struggle -- keeping in mind that struggling through life is a universal experience, which very many governments in the "civilized" world have discovered they can exploit to their advantage through one form or another of socialism or even totalitarianism. But in order for a government to ease personal struggles, it must in turn assume responsibilities that would normally reside with the individual, that is to say it must assume some our personal responsibilities. But there's a huge price to pay whenever we want or expect government to carry some of our personal baggage through life: We also grant them power by relinquishing personal control, personal regulation over our own lives! In short, we lose some our freedom.

Yesterday, on my way home from church and while sitting at a light I saw one of those grass signs written in bold letters that advertised "KNOW YOUR RIGHTS..." About what? About how to reduce your personal credit card debt by up to 60%! :bang: :bang: So, this company was pushing its credit card debt service by advertising some government manufactured right that encouraged and even entitled people to shirk their personal debt responsibility by settling with the credit card companies through some kind of "stimulus" money granted by the government. But we know from whence come these "ObamaBucks", don't we? Such money ultimately comes at the taxpayers' expense!

This is a classic example of how a state's manufactured right completely trumps our God-given, inalienable rights, since a legitimate government role is to protect one's personal property, and not to steal it to give to someone else who has made irresponsible choices in life. Oh, yes...the guy on the receiving end of the "charity" is eternally grateful to the state for "fixing" his debt problem -- for helping to ease his struggles and he'll probably become a lifelong Dem(on)s devotee. Meanwhile, the responsible people who make responsible personal choices are left to hang on the hook for the money. Their inalienable rights were stomped on and yet...they're still expected to not be thankful to the state. They're expected to be happy over it -- not angry -- even though such anger is fully justified.

Boxcar