Oh where oh where did all the KEE horses go?

[Foolish Pleasure]

Not all weather-check

Not conclusively safer-check

Not leading to bigger fields-check

Underperforming the industry avg handlewise-check





Even better than the nits telling me they separating 8 horses at the quarter pole in 12 horse KEE poly races?

THe nits telling me they beating short field racing where the whole field has a shot with 50yrds left.


:bang: :bang: :bang:

[LottaKash]

Me, just like a broken record, I keep saying that racing's biggest problem is that there just aren't enough of good horses and owners to go around "these days"...I see this "everywhere", in fact just the other day there was a thread about a track not having enough jockeys to go around....

Racetracks had better face this "reality" and soon...There is just too much racing going on "simultaneously" anymore....I suggest that they "all" get together and face this very large problem head-on....It is just not going to go away anytinme soon, imo...

And, there just aren't enough players "now", to support all this racing either...

What has to happen in order for the tracks to finally get this ?...

I will bet that there will be at least 2-tracks to go belly-up this year...:eek:

best,

[Foolish Pleasure]

I see full field racing all over the place.

Less is less, the notion that running fewer tracks leads to big fields has never once come to fruition.

They used to all run 10 races, then they wanted bigger fields so they ran 9 races and guess what? Field size went up for abt two weeks.

MNR didn't run two months this past year-did it effect anything at all other than less races to bet? TP cut back number of cards significantly, did it make their fields bigger at all or anyone else's for that matter?


Less is less-it may make sense to think otherwise but it never works out that way.


Monmouth's next move, will be even less racing summer of 2011.

[LottaKash]

I see full field racing all over the place.

Less is less, the notion that running fewer tracks leads to big fields has never once come to fruition.

They used to all run 10 races, then they wanted bigger fields so they ran 9 races and guess what? Field size went up for abt two weeks.

MNR didn't run two months this past year-did it effect anything at all other than less races to bet? TP cut back number of cards significantly, did it make their fields bigger at all or anyone else's for that matter?


Less is less-it may make sense to think otherwise but it never works out that way.


Monmouth's next move, will be even less racing summer of 2011.

Not to take you task, but let me ask you this...What is happening then ?

Imo, this day and age, this ain't my daddy's horse racing...So what is it ?....I see small fields at all the big tracks...And, I hear complaints about this from a multitude of people...

Perhaps the changes that you have stated, aren't the right changes....

How can there be enough of horse and owners, and players to go around, when the handles are down, the fields are smaller, and the owners are fewer, almost everywhere...

When people aren't coming out to the "fresh-air" in the numbers of old, and they are staying at home to play, then I consider this to be a big change in the way the racing is conducted and played these days, and the tracks don't seem to be in tune with that aspect....All they know is, same old, same old, and they are trying to cure their ills in the same old way....That will just not do, if horse racing is to survive, imo..

best.

[therussmeister]

I do believe Turfway's fields were bigger. I paid more attention to their field size this year than last, so I can't be sure.

[Robert Goren]

I see full field racing all over the place.

Less is less, the notion that running fewer tracks leads to big fields has never once come to fruition.

They used to all run 10 races, then they wanted bigger fields so they ran 9 races and guess what? Field size went up for abt two weeks.

MNR didn't run two months this past year-did it effect anything at all other than less races to bet? TP cut back number of cards significantly, did it make their fields bigger at all or anyone else's for that matter?


Less is less-it may make sense to think otherwise but it never works out that way.


Monmouth's next move, will be even less racing summer of 2011.When I started betting, they ran 8 races a day. The only place I see full fields at a major track is on the turf. Some minor tracks have full fields because the horses race every week or ten days. The better the track, the longer between starts. JMO

[therussmeister]

When I started betting, they ran 8 races a day. The only place I see full fields at a major track is on the turf. Some minor tracks have full fields because the horses race every week or ten days. The better the track, the longer between starts. JMO

Yep, that's it. When purses started rising, first because of simulcasting, then casinos, the horsemen responded by racing less often. Ironically, higher purses were supposed to mean fuller fields, but it seems the opposite is true.

Last year, starting in August, I played Suffolk for the first time. Suffolk has the lowest purses (I think) in the region. Every month there were numerous horses that had 5 starts/month.

[joanied]

And they are actually thinking of building another track...in Nebraska:ThmbDown:

[Tom]

Good. Build that one and close KEE....the worst track ever!
Dirt or poly - it has always featured crap racing. Beautiful track,
horrible racing. Like a buxom blond with an IQ of 46.;)

[hansend]

And they are actually thinking of building another track...in Nebraska:ThmbDown:


The current track in Lincoln is going away which is why they are thinking about doing it. Can't really race without it. None of the other tracks want the days it races (I think).

[Robert Goren]

And they are actually thinking of building another track...in Nebraska:ThmbDown:Replacing one is little more accurate. There is a lot of thinking, but thinking ain't money. I doubt that it is going to happen. JMO

[Cardus]

Good. Build that one and close KEE....the worst track ever!
Dirt or poly - it has always featured crap racing. Beautiful track,
horrible racing. Like a buxom blond with an IQ of 46.;)

What's wrong with that?

[Valuist]

Part of the problem is the rampant fear that horses need at least a month off between starts, or they will bounce to the moon. Makes it so what used to be 15 races a year for a horse is now 8.

[JustRalph]

Like a buxom blond with an IQ of 46.;)

What's wrong with that?


There's 23 other hours in the day............

btw, not sure if Tom meant an "IQ of 46"

or an "IQ like 46"

Which are two different things all together

[Foolish Pleasure]

Not to take you task, but let me ask you this...What is happening then ?

Imo, this day and age, this ain't my daddy's horse racing...So what is it ?....I see small fields at all the big tracks...And, I hear complaints about this from a multitude of people...

Perhaps the changes that you have stated, aren't the right changes....

How can there be enough of horse and owners, and players to go around, when the handles are down, the fields are smaller, and the owners are fewer, almost everywhere...

When people aren't coming out to the "fresh-air" in the numbers of old, and they are staying at home to play, then I consider this to be a big change in the way the racing is conducted and played these days, and the tracks don't seem to be in tune with that aspect....All they know is, same old, same old, and they are trying to cure their ills in the same old way....That will just not do, if horse racing is to survive, imo..

best.




The have sold their soul and the entire sport down the river for slot machines.

No other explanation, sorry, the rest are excuses and bullshit to the max.


The sport once appealled to the broadest audience of any american sport,
and now supposedly appeals to nobody-

it is a ludicrous joke, take something poker where one is folding 90% of the time and that booms while something like horse racing struggles-it is ridiculous,

just like racing losing to slots is ridiculous.



Regardless, less means less. It has never worked the other way in this industry.