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Not4Love
04-16-2010, 04:43 PM
Does anybody play Vernon? Any Advice???

markgoldie
04-16-2010, 04:47 PM
Give your money to the Hatian Relief Fund. :D

willphorse
04-16-2010, 04:48 PM
Favorite wins 50 to 60 % of the time up there. Top 2 favorite is more in the range of 70 to 80%! Thats based on last years figures... maybe Ray can elaborate?

lamboguy
04-16-2010, 04:55 PM
just bet anything that joshua marks trains

JustRalph
04-16-2010, 05:21 PM
small pools, 20 bucks into the win pool can kill your odds :lol:

I love the location though.........I haven't been there in a couple of years

but it was nicely kept......very sparse crowd. decent bar and snacks

Ray2000
04-16-2010, 05:59 PM
Vernon Downs still has Dr/Tr stats up from 2009, I can't find their post position numbers

http://www.vernondowns.com/SupportingFiles/documents/driverstrainerstanding.pdf


Here's what I have for last season post position.

877 Races in 2009
...........PP1 ....PP2 ....PP3 ....PP4 ....PP5 ....PP6 ....PP7 ....PP8 ....PP9 ..PP10 ..PP11
Starts.....877.....877.....877.....877.....874.... .852.....785.....597.....273.....4.....1
Wins........93.....104.....107.....108.....144.... .118.....100......72......29.....2.....0
Wins%......11%.....12%.....12%.....12%.....16%.... .14%.....13%.....12%.....11%...50%.....0%

Expect.....114.....114.....114.....114.....113.... .109......98......71......30
% Dev ....-23%....-10%.....-6%.....-6%.....21%......8%......2%......2%.....-4%.....(as in TM program)


Betting
.............PP1 ......PP2 ......PP3 ......PP4 ......PP5 ......PP6 .......PP7 ......PP8 ....PP9 ...PP10 ..PP11
Bet post...$1,754 ...$1,754 ....$1,754 ...$1,754 ...$1,748 ...$1,704 ...$1,570 ...$1,194 ..$546 .....$8 ...$2
Return.......$985 ...$1,056 ....$1,093 ...$1,217 ...$1,508 ...$1,285 ...$1,187 .... $859 ..$427 .....$7 . 0
ROI%.........-44%......-40%.......-38%.....-31%......-14%.......-25%......-24%......-28%...-22%....-19%..-100%

Again, the crowd goes for the rail instead of the 5 hole.


Faves didn't fare as well as years past but still high.
Percent of Winning Favorites 40.8%
Percent of Favorites Win and Place 59.6%
Percent Of Favorites in The Money 72.2%

willphorse
04-16-2010, 05:59 PM
just bet anything that joshua marks trains

I think everybody that bets Vernon has seens this

Same with Marks driving Brainards horses!!!

Average odds are like 3/5

Zman179
04-17-2010, 01:55 PM
Vernon is a 7/8ths track that plays fair and with honest racing; post position plays the same as at Woodbine/Mohawk. It's one of the few tracks that can draw a decent amount of people for racing, but the handle tells that the crowd is all novices, which means that you can find a good price; but, you can't hit it too hard. Average handle for a ten race card is $110,000 to $120,000. I've caught quite a few good prices there in the past due to the majority of the pool being square money.