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Canadian
04-16-2010, 03:06 AM
Anyone else?

I don't mean to paint two whole groups with such a broad brush as it would not apply to the whole group, but....

When I was watching the major anti-war demonstrations go on back in 2003 I got the feeling, and I think I was right, that significant number of people demonstrating against the war would have rather have seen every man women and child in Iraq dead before they'd want to see George Bush right. I'm not saying their position was wrong, I just felt the feeling from alot of them that there was disappoitment that far more people weren't killed during the war.

Now watching the other side outraged... I kind of feel the same way. It's almost as if people out there would rather see America fall apart then Obama rule during a peaceful and prosperous economy. Again not the whole crowd but a good number of them.

JMO

bigmack
04-16-2010, 03:18 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

This indoctrination is on a far grander & public scale than that of Syung Myung Moon. Look at these fools!! :lol:

Look at 'em startin' threads & gettin' real scared & all.

Im 'bout fixed to git my teeth in and start laughin' all over again & stuff.

newtothegame
04-16-2010, 04:24 AM
Anyone else?

I don't mean to paint two whole groups with such a broad brush as it would not apply to the whole group, but....

When I was watching the major anti-war demonstrations go on back in 2003 I got the feeling, and I think I was right, that significant number of people demonstrating against the war would have rather have seen every man women and child in Iraq dead before they'd want to see George Bush right. I'm not saying their position was wrong, I just felt the feeling from alot of them that there was disappoitment that far more people weren't killed during the war.

Now watching the other side outraged... I kind of feel the same way. It's almost as if people out there would rather see America fall apart then Obama rule during a peaceful and prosperous economy. Again not the whole crowd but a good number of them.

JMO

Obama.....peaceful...and prosperous???? Lmao

ArlJim78
04-16-2010, 06:09 AM
You've got it backwards. The Tea Party wants peace and prosperity for the US.
Obama is trying to dismantle America, and to reduce it's power and influence in the world.

"Whether we like it or not, America is a military superpower".
Think about this statement and ask yourself why a president would make it. He truly wishes that the US were not a military superpower. To him it's not fair.

Tom
04-16-2010, 08:29 AM
Suff's back? :rolleyes:

Another one with no social upbringing.
Teabagger - you are a foul mouthed putz - would you like to call your a CS?
Think about it and try to present yourself as an adult - civilized pepole post here.

GaryG
04-16-2010, 08:54 AM
I turn on the computer this morning and see three new Tea Party threads started by the wingnuts. I love the smell of fear coming from the left side. Hannity wasn't there, my poll shows different numbers, they hate sodomites....etc etc. This is an excellent way to start the day.....now some coffee and the pps.

Tom
04-16-2010, 09:27 AM
I was at a rally last night - a few hundred, not bad.
But looking at the crowd, I understand why the libs are in a tizzy. :lol:

jognlope
04-16-2010, 09:34 AM
Both Reps and Dems are guilty of not wanting to cut spending and Obama's plan, just heard a reference to it, would cut defiict by $500 billion per year for 10 years, and the Republican guy being interviewed said but that's too long, like what a failure he is to make it take so long ... but how are you going to do that in two years anyway if no one is going to want to budge on their pet programs. It's going to take 10 years if not longer.

Tom
04-16-2010, 09:46 AM
Dems? Repubs :sleeping:

We're beyond that.
And Obama cutting the deficit? :lol::lol::lol:
We will be at 909% of our income going to interest long before that ever happens.

"Doctor, will I be able to walk again after the surgery?"
"Yes unless you die on the table." :eek:

jballscalls
04-16-2010, 11:30 AM
Suff's back? :rolleyes:

Another one with no social upbringing.
Teabagger - you are a foul mouthed putz - would you like to call your a CS?
Think about it and try to present yourself as an adult - civilized pepole post here.

you have to be kidding right?? every other post has you calling someone a Sack of S*** or lying sack of S***

is calling someone a bag of excrement different than calling them a teabagger?? (which by the way doesnt involve any Cs'ing, it's simply a placement of a bag. and it's not a homosexual act, it's done by many straight couples as well i'm sure)

johnhannibalsmith
04-16-2010, 11:38 AM
... (which by the way doesnt involve any Cs'ing, it's simply a placement of a bag. and it's not a homosexual act, it's done by many straight couples as well i'm sure)

I suppose I'm pretty naive to the SEXtreme Games and I refuse to google the intracacies of this teabagging hetero/homo act, but what the hell is "Cs'ing"?

I've been pondering this for ten minutes and am feeling very left out... though I'm somewhat of the belief that I may be better off being clueless on the subject...

mostpost
04-16-2010, 11:40 AM
I turn on the computer this morning and see three new Tea Party threads started by the wingnuts. I love the smell of fear coming from the left side. Hannity wasn't there, my poll shows different numbers, they hate sodomites....etc etc. This is an excellent way to start the day.....now some coffee and the pps.
Get your facts straight, man. You're the wingnuts. We're the moonbats. Sheeesh!!! :bang:

jballscalls
04-16-2010, 11:42 AM
I suppose I'm pretty naive to the SEXtreme Games and I refuse to google the intracacies of this teabagging hetero/homo act, but what the hell is "Cs'ing"?

I've been pondering this for ten minutes and am feeling very left out... though I'm somewhat of the belief that I may be better off being clueless on the subject...

think Monica and Bill. we should stop though, i apologize for perpetuating ludeness on a thread. sorry guys

johnhannibalsmith
04-16-2010, 11:47 AM
think Monica and Bill...

Can't I think of Paris Hilton and whoever the dude was? Monica and Bill? Oh man, no wonder Tom gets so offended by the word Teabagger...

By the way... it dawned on me that there is some irony in getting clarification on this matter from a guy that has the moniker 'JBallscalls'... :D

jballscalls
04-16-2010, 11:51 AM
Can't I think of Paris Hilton and whoever the dude was? Monica and Bill? Oh man, no wonder Tom gets so offended by the word Teabagger...

By the way... it dawned on me that there is some irony in getting clarification on this matter from a guy that has the moniker 'JBallscalls'... :D

quick point of clarification on that. it technically should be jball's calls, but punctuation seemed stupid. my nickname growing up was J-ball, since the first name was jason and i played baseball all growing up, i mean i had the nickname since i was two. and i used to make race calls for a living, hence jball's calls.

nothing sexual about it my friend, that was simply your interpretation of it! ;)

johnhannibalsmith
04-16-2010, 11:55 AM
...
nothing sexual about it my friend, that was simply your interpretation of it! ;)

I was just teasing you a bit Jason... I knew the origin of the name and am familiar with your work in Portland... the juvenile delinquent side of me just couldn't resist... :cool:

boxcar
04-16-2010, 12:05 PM
Anyone else?

I don't mean to paint two whole groups with such a broad brush as it would not apply to the whole group, but....

When I was watching the major anti-war demonstrations go on back in 2003 I got the feeling, and I think I was right, that significant number of people demonstrating against the war would have rather have seen every man women and child in Iraq dead before they'd want to see George Bush right. I'm not saying their position was wrong, I just felt the feeling from alot of them that there was disappoitment that far more people weren't killed during the war.

Now watching the other side outraged... I kind of feel the same way. It's almost as if people out there would rather see America fall apart then Obama rule during a peaceful and prosperous economy. Again not the whole crowd but a good number of them.

JMO

Hey, "JMO", what makes you think our economy is prospering?

Boxcar
P.S. Many in this country want to see BO's policies fail because then America would have a chance to truly prosper.

toetoe
04-16-2010, 12:17 PM
Canajun,

Your love of And's'n Cooperphrage's term is not enough per se. You must spell it correctly. Otherwise, your wonderfully cogent argument suffers.

Two *g*s in teabaggers.

LottaKash
04-16-2010, 12:23 PM
Now watching the other side outraged... I kind of feel the same way. It's almost as if people out there would rather see America fall apart then Obama ruleduring a peaceful and prosperous economy. Again not the whole crowd but a good number of them.

JMO

Now, there is a "key" word for you....

Imo, anyone who has a voice, should be voicing it now, while we "still" have the opportunity to do so...

best,

hazzardm
04-16-2010, 12:23 PM
I was at a rally last night - a few hundred, not bad.
But looking at the crowd, I understand why the libs are in a tizzy. :lol:


?????

boxcar
04-16-2010, 01:46 PM
Now, there is a "key" word for you....

Imo, anyone who has a voice, should be voicing it now, while we "still" have the opportunity to do so...

best,

This is what socialism does to people's minds. After awhile its proponents WANT the state to RULE over them -- over every aspect of their life. Truly sick and perverted...

Boxcar

JustRalph
04-16-2010, 02:11 PM
way too many balls in this thread

Tom
04-16-2010, 02:25 PM
?????

Real people, hones, hard working people, thinking on their own, not drinking the kool aid, who are going vote the dems out in November. People not buying the lies that Barry, Nancy, and Harry keep dishing out. Nothing scares a lib more than the truth.

hazzardm
04-16-2010, 02:46 PM
Real people, hones, hard working people, thinking on their own, not drinking the kool aid, who are going vote the dems out in November. People not buying the lies that Barry, Nancy, and Harry keep dishing out. Nothing scares a lib more than the truth.


But one must be careful, there are a lot of flavors of kool aid......

johnhannibalsmith
04-16-2010, 02:51 PM
But one must be careful, there are a lot of flavors of kool aid......

Yes, but there's only one top seller.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/KoolAid_1stUSEd_front.jpg

Tom
04-16-2010, 03:16 PM
But one must be careful, there are a lot of flavors of kool aid......

Boy, we agree on that one! :lol:

46zilzal
04-16-2010, 03:32 PM
The anti war movement was nothing like this.

If you had lived through it one could easily see it is no where near the same.

johnhannibalsmith
04-16-2010, 03:36 PM
...When I was watching the major anti-war demonstrations go on back in 2003...
JMO

The anti war movement was nothing like this.

If you had lived through it one could easily see it is no where near the same.

Are you implying that there are a lot of people posting here that are seven years of age or younger?

Or did you blow over the entirety of the original post that made it clear that the subject was the Bush era protests?

I mean, I caught hell yesterday for missing the word "adult" in one of your posts...

NJ Stinks
04-16-2010, 03:51 PM
Real people, hones, hard working people, thinking on their own, not drinking the kool aid, who are going vote the dems out in November. People not buying the lies that Barry, Nancy, and Harry keep dishing out. Nothing scares a lib more than the truth.

What a joke. Federal income tax rates have not been lower than today for at least 50 years. Yet these people - "thinking on their own" - are crying about Obama taxing us to death and are, of course, seeking the Holy Grail in the form of even more tax cuts.

Somebody is drinking the the kool aid alright. :rolleyes:

boxcar
04-16-2010, 04:00 PM
The anti war movement was nothing like this.

If you had lived through it one could easily see it is no where near the same.

You're right. The anti-war movement was violent. To put it into today's vernacular -- they were domestic terrorists by comparison.

Boxcar

46zilzal
04-16-2010, 04:14 PM
You're right. The anti-war movement was violent. To put it into today's vernacular -- they were domestic terrorists by comparison.

Boxcar
No it was not...I walked by a silent protest along the hill next to Powell Library almost everyday for three years. Several hundred people, it varied each day, stood there (many with arm bands honored those lost in action in a stupid wasteful and completely unnecessary and immoral war) for 15 minutes and never said a word.....These were never worthy of the medias mantra :IF he bleeds it leads" of the day.

Robert Goren
04-16-2010, 04:23 PM
Which anti war movement. The Bush one was about as tame as you can get. The 60s one had some violence, but nothing to compare with Oklahoma City by a couple of Militia drop outs.

jballscalls
04-16-2010, 04:35 PM
I think the problem is that people generalize far too much. They say the anti war movement was violent. how many anti war protests were there and how many were violent??

just as people on the left think the tea party movement is all about race and bad spelling on signs. sure there are probably some racist folks in the group and yes there are terribly spelled signs, but the majority that is not the case.

vast generalizations like the one Boxcar made above (if he was talking about this latest war protests, bush era) are terrible and generally dont show much thought or actual investigation into events, they more just are a short cut to put down the other side.

boxcar
04-16-2010, 04:35 PM
SF anti-war protest by a crowd that looked like they might have attained to a 100 I.Q. in the aggregate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OynofhdvxhY

Nice little G20 protest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaVahxDhWfM

A bunch of rowdy masked, thug-like protesters at the Repug convention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg5BCSZ55pQ

Far more often than not, when violence at any public gathering or protest, it's usually by the Left. And then when that happens the MM spins it that it was the police's fault!

Boxcar

46zilzal
04-16-2010, 04:36 PM
A large recognition in the anti-war movement was in the discovery of how many inner city people and low income individuals were taking the brunt of the sacrifices.........and all for NOTHING except to line the pockets of the war providers.

I am talking about the only antiwar protest I am directly familiar with and that took place a long time ago.

boxcar
04-16-2010, 05:02 PM
A large recognition in the anti-war movement was in the discovery of how many inner city people and low income individuals were taking the brunt of the sacrifices.........and all for NOTHING except to line the pockets of the war providers.

I am talking about the only antiwar protest I am directly familiar with and that took place a long time ago.

Fine. If they were so concerned, they should have reached into their own pockets to help them out. The state has no business to begin with stealing from one group to give to another in exchange for their votes.

You on the Left are bunch of hypocrites! You protest one evil (often with shame which is why you guys had to hide your ugly mugs), but then turn right around, as you have just done, to condemn the very same government for its lack of evil performance, in terms of thievery, from one group of people so that it can give their money to another group in exchange for their votes.

You're really pathetic!

Boxcar

hazzardm
04-16-2010, 05:11 PM
Far more often than not, when violence at any public gathering or protest, it's usually by the Left. And then when that happens the MM spins it that it was the police's fault!

Boxcar

:ThmbUp:

JustRalph
04-16-2010, 05:12 PM
Don't forget those anti-war types evolved .......at least the ones in the 60's did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground

They did their share of violence. Ever heard of Bill Ayers ?

from the link:

Weatherman, known colloquially as the Weathermen and later the Weather Underground Organization (abbreviated WUO), was an American radical left organization. It originated in 1969 as a faction of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)[2] composed for the most part of the national office leadership of SDS and their supporters. Their goal was to create a clandestine revolutionary party for the violent overthrow of the US government and the establishment of a dictatorship of the proletariat.[3]
With a charismatic[4] and articulate[5] leadership whose revolutionary positions were characterized by anti-imperialist, feminist, and Black liberationist rhetoric,[2] the group conducted a campaign of bombings through the mid-1970s, including aiding the jailbreak and escape of Timothy Leary. The "Days of Rage," their first public demonstration on October 8, 1969, was a riot in Chicago timed to coincide with the trial of the Chicago Seven. In 1970 the group issued a "Declaration of a State of War" against the United States government, under the name "Weather Underground Organization" (WUO). The bombing attacks mostly targeted government buildings, along with several banks. Most were preceded by evacuation warnings, along with communiqués identifying the particular matter that the attack was intended to protest. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a communiqué saying it was "in protest of the US invasion of Laos." For the bombing of the Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the US bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the United States Department of State Building, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."[6]

http://res.binscorner.com/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i/125107023669.JPG

Robert Goren
04-16-2010, 05:15 PM
Fine. If they were so concerned, they should have reached into their own pockets to help them out. The state has no business to begin with stealing from one group to give to another in exchange for their votes.

You on the Left are bunch of hypocrites! You protest one evil (often with shame which is why you guys had to hide your ugly mugs), but then turn right around, as you have just done, to condemn the very same government for its lack of evil performance, in terms of thievery, from one group of people so that it can give their money to another group in exchange for their votes.

You're really pathetic!

Boxcar I just do not agree that the government is stealing from group to give to another. I think the large tax payers receive more benefits than they pay for. And if they don't get what they they think they have got coming they cry like babies. JMO

boxcar
04-16-2010, 05:31 PM
I just do not agree that the government is stealing from group to give to another. I think the large tax payers receive more benefits than they pay for. And if they don't get what they they think they have got coming they cry like babies. JMO

And for what specifics benefits are they being undercharged?

Boxcar

JustRalph
04-16-2010, 05:49 PM
I just do not agree that the government is stealing from group to give to another. I think the large tax payers receive more benefits than they pay for. And if they don't get what they they think they have got coming they cry like babies. JMO

You have got to be kidding? You obviously don't know the data then.

What bennies do they receive that others don't? Let's just start there.....

boxcar
04-16-2010, 06:50 PM
You have got to be kidding? You obviously don't know the data then.

What bennies do they receive that others don't? Let's just start there.....


:lol: :lol: I always love it when the statists come at ya from this angle.

Boxcar

Tom
04-16-2010, 07:53 PM
The anti war movement was nothing like this.

If you had lived through it one could easily see it is no where near the same.

Those cheeks are wiggling again.
It was EXACTLY like this, when it came from the sincere people, like TP people. I was the treasurer for the XXXXXX for Peace group and we were comprised of mothers, fathers, housewives, ministers, bankers, store keepers.....not a slime ball among us, you know, slimeballs like Obama's friends and mentors, radical garbage who used violence and racism as tools? It was EXACTLY like it is today, among the civilized people. When it came to being anit-war, zilly, we were anti war, but pro-our troops. We thought the country was going down the wrong road, just like today. Exactly the same. Like your stupid phony sign holders, we had aholes try to take over our events, too.
Exactly the same.

jognlope
04-16-2010, 09:54 PM
Going down the wrong road, but no suggestions for the right road. But you still want your full Medicare and social security benefits, right?

Again, what is Palin's or any Replubican's replaced health care plan?

NJ Stinks
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Again, what is Palin's or any Replubican's replaced health care plan?

Put on a sweater or coat. Drink your milk. In short, don't get sick.

boxcar
04-16-2010, 10:39 PM
Going down the wrong road, but no suggestions for the right road. But you still want your full Medicare and social security benefits, right?

Again, what is Palin's or any Replubican's replaced health care plan?

Are you saying that those who were FORCED to pay for those programs all their lives are not entitled to them? What do you advocate: the U.S. government shutting down their benefits? In the private sector, such scams are serious crimes and punished by stiff prison sentences in the private sector. If the U.S. government wants to shut down these programs after scamming billions of dollars from us, would you be okay if we tried, convicted and imprisoned all politicians in favor of this action, and all those politicians who have ever voted for any entitlement or social welfare program?

Boxcar
P.S. Personally, I think this would be an excellent trade off!

P.P.S. When was the last time you paid for a some service or product in the private sector and didn't receive it? If you ever experienced this, were you okay with that?

johnhannibalsmith
04-16-2010, 10:43 PM
Are you saying that those who were FORCED to pay for those programs all their lives are not entitled to them? ...

I give you credit for even trying to engage with a reply.

Tom
04-16-2010, 11:30 PM
She don't read so good.....and only what she wants to read.
Waste of time....she is still waiting for Obama to fill up her gas tank.

PaceAdvantage
04-17-2010, 12:30 AM
I am talking about the only antiwar protest I am directly familiar with and that took place a long time ago.That's not what the other people in this thread were talking about. Don't act dense.

PaceAdvantage
04-17-2010, 12:32 AM
Again, what is Palin's or any Replubican's replaced health care plan?Palin?

jognlope
04-17-2010, 11:21 AM
The Wall St crash, you don't seem to want to read about or mention that. Did you forget it happened? Obama didn't cause it. Republicans voted for stimulus, 28% of which is a middle class tax cut. The taxes aren't going up for the rich; the bush tax cuts are not being renewed. The taxes will just go back to the Clinton rates. The 47% should pay some income tax though. Just go to Politifact and get some truth, or watch Fox, your choice.

Secretariat
04-17-2010, 07:42 PM
http://res.binscorner.com/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i/125107023669.JPG

This is a Republican plant.

bigmack
04-17-2010, 07:47 PM
This is a Republican plant.
What color scarf do you wear Capt. Race Baiter?

http://zombietime.com/sf_anti-war_rally_3-20-2010/IMG_0868.JPG

jballscalls
04-17-2010, 07:47 PM
This is a Republican plant.

As acorn proved, they would never doctor tape or pictures to further something :rolleyes:

johnhannibalsmith
04-17-2010, 07:47 PM
This is a Republican plant.

And this is a Democratic plant:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Sativa.jpg

bigmack
04-17-2010, 08:16 PM
As acorn proved, they would never doctor tape or pictures to further something :rolleyes:
What was doctored & what was furthered?

Buckeye
04-17-2010, 08:23 PM
Anyone else?

I don't mean to paint two whole groups with such a broad brush as it would not apply to the whole group, but....

When I was watching the major anti-war demonstrations go on back in 2003 I got the feeling, and I think I was right, that significant number of people demonstrating against the war would have rather have seen every man women and child in Iraq dead before they'd want to see George Bush right. I'm not saying their position was wrong, I just felt the feeling from alot of them that there was disappoitment that far more people weren't killed during the war.

Now watching the other side outraged... I kind of feel the same way. It's almost as if people out there would rather see America fall apart then Obama rule during a peaceful and prosperous economy. Again not the whole crowd but a good number of them.

JMO

look, it's a war and we won it, isn't that the way it's supposed to go? The other side can kiss my ass. Obama included.

hazzardm
04-17-2010, 08:39 PM
And this is a Democratic plant:



Mmmmmmmmmm

johnhannibalsmith
04-17-2010, 09:05 PM
Damnit... I didn't realize that I screwed up the horizontal with that photo until I got home to my junky computer... Sorry... If I could fix it now, I would... :blush: