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ljb
07-16-2003, 06:20 PM
The New York Observer


To show loyalty, Rice lies for Bush
Dr. Rice soils previously unblemished record with string of deceptions

According to contemporary political lore, the Bush clan exalts loyalty above every other virtue. Other politicians envy that inviolable code, whose power is reflected in the absence of leaks from the White House, in the lockstep obedience of politicians in Congress and around the country, and in the enormous cash donations from hundreds of wealthy "friends." This is how dynasties are built to endure.

But at the highest level, in the inner councils, such feudal allegiances often require awful sacrifice and compromise. For those who now work for George W. Bush, loyalty means surrendering professional integrity and accepting public humiliation. Loyalty means uttering words and phrases that nobody can believe. Loyalty means misleading the people and the press about the gravest matters of state.

Loyalty means lying.

Consider the poignant case of Condoleezza Rice, who entered this administration as a respected academic expert on Russian affairs and the former provost of Stanford University. Unlike some of the figures around the President, Dr. Rice had no serious blots on her reputation when she was appointed national security advisor. From a family that suffered the indignities and deprivations of segregated Alabama, she has long been admired as an African-American woman who rose by dint of personal effort and scholarly ability as well as affirmative action. The list of honors, degrees, directorships and other achievements on her official résumé is extraordinary.

After serving in the first Bush White House on the National Security Council, and then a stint in the 2000 campaign as a discreet adviser on foreign affairs, she had come to be regarded by the political clan as among its most reliable members. Sometimes she almost appeared to have been adopted by the President and his family.

But during the past two years of international crisis, Dr. Rice has been dispatched to prevaricate repeatedly in defense of her boss. She was caught spreading a false story about Sept. 11, claiming that Air Force One flew the President to Oklahoma after the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon because "intelligence" indicated that terrorists were aiming for the White House and the Presidential jet. Later she testified that the U.S. government had never anticipated an assault by airliner, when in fact there had been many warnings of exactly such tactics -- most notably during the summer of 2001, when Western intelligence services set up anti-aircraft batteries around the Genoa summit to protect the President.

Memories are short in this country, so Dr. Rice escaped those embarrassing incidents with her reputation more or less intact. Then last year, as the determination of the White House to wage war on Iraq became plain, she began to promote dubious stories about Saddam Hussein's regime. As national security advisor, she had access to all of the sensitive intelligence about Iraq, so the press and Congress took her pronouncements seriously.

More than anyone other than the President himself, Dr. Rice stoked fears about a "mushroom cloud" rising over an American city unless the U.S. waged war on Iraq. To promote such dread, she warned that a shipment of aluminum tubes purchased by the Iraqis could only be intended for a uranium-enrichment device. Long after the International Atomic Energy Authority debunked that claim, the national security advisor continued to insist that it must be true.

Still, she had gotten away with those whoppers as well, thanks to the complaisant national press corps. Lately, however, she has engaged in deceptions that are too obvious and too simple to ignore. Not only is she responsible for the false allegation about Niger uranium in the State of the Union address, but she dishonorably forced C.I.A. director George Tenet to say that was his fault rather than hers.

Dr. Rice knew that the C.I.A. had questioned the veracity of the Niger uranium tale. She knew because Mr. Tenet had warned her deputy, Stephen Hadley, of its dubious quality three months earlier. Yet she permitted that sentence to be uttered by the President. Now she tells us that those 16 words were "accurate" because the information was attributed to British intelligence. She wants us to believe that until last month she had never heard about the mission to Niger undertaken by former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, who reported back to the C.I.A. and the State Department that the Niger uranium story was a fake.

Lefty
07-16-2003, 10:23 PM
ljb, LEFTWING OPINION is not FACT.

PaceAdvantage
07-17-2003, 12:56 AM
Ljb.....WE GET IT!! You don't like BUSH.....move on dude...

ljb
07-17-2003, 08:28 AM
Pace Advantage's words
"Ljb.....WE GET IT!! You don't like BUSH.....move on dude... "
I do not like what the current administration is doing.
When you ask me to move on are you asking me to stop posting my opinions about current affairs? I find the need for quotes as Tom and Lefty keep asking for proof of my opinions/statements. However if my posts are offending or upsetting to the folks on these boards I will comply with your wishes and "move on"

SandyE
07-17-2003, 10:58 AM
The publication that you posted the quote from.
The New York Observer, is it a local paper like the Ocean County Observer? Just curious and thank you for your response,
later,

Lefty
07-17-2003, 12:44 PM
ljb, Tom and I and others ask for proof but an opinion piece from whatever "rag" that was is not proof, it's still someone's opinion and as so is not fact. Post facts and i'll read on, post opinions and i'll post mine. My definition of fact" A true and incontrovertible
happening.

ljb
07-17-2003, 01:29 PM
I posted facts: Exact quotes from Cheney and Rummy and you discredited them. You can't handle real facts or you just don't understand them.

ljb
07-17-2003, 01:38 PM
Sorry don't know anything about the New York observer. Just found the article on the net and since tom was asking for today's lie, I copied it and posted it. They do have a website if you wish to pursue the search further.

PaceAdvantage
07-17-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by ljb
When you ask me to move on are you asking me to stop posting my opinions about current affairs? I find the need for quotes as Tom and Lefty keep asking for proof of my opinions/statements. However if my posts are offending or upsetting to the folks on these boards I will comply with your wishes and "move on" [/B]

No, nobody is offended or upset at the moment (at least nobody that *I* know of). And no, I am NOT asking you to stop posting your opinions about current affairs. I was simply posting my opinion that you seem to be beating a dead horse here. Everyone around here knows that you do not approve of the current administration, in almost every way, shape and form.

I guess I'm getting tired of reading the same stuff day in and day out about how horrible you think this administration is doing, and I decided to vent....


==PA

Tom
07-17-2003, 08:04 PM
You gotta lighten up...everything is not a personal attack or orders out of town.
Got any opinions on "racing?"

ljb
07-17-2003, 08:47 PM
No problemo PA, I am equally tired of reading every day the folks that are praising the current administration. I do in fact totally disagree with their opinions. It seems to be difficult to be a disenter on this board.
Really when I read these notes I am reminded of the childhood story.
The Emperors Clothes.
Well I guess I'll have to take some time off.

JustRalph
07-17-2003, 09:52 PM
of the country.........that's what PA is....... I say move on......and you know how I mean it..............

Lefty
07-17-2003, 10:17 PM
ljb, have a nice rest and ponder this: You bring us half-truths, opinion pieces and quotes out of context to try and convince us of what? That Bush is bad for the country?
Here's some facts for yuh, Iraq not a threat anymore. Bin Laden and Sadaam on the run. Thanks to GW.

North Korea with nuclear power. China with a missile delivery system. Thousands of little girls with social disease of the throat.
Thanks to Bill Clinton.

PaceAdvantage
07-17-2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by ljb
I am equally tired of reading every day the folks that are praising the current administration.


You ain't reading that on here....in fact, I don't think anyone was talking about the current administration until Amazin and you came along and started to trash them. So I again can't comprehend why you feel the need to pull all this off on the off-topic section of a horse racing board. Sure, one or two notes, and you get your point across and have some fun.....

But day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day......well, you the point I'm sure....

SandyE
07-17-2003, 11:16 PM
And it's in a paper that looks like a polictol basher kind of publication. Definetly not my cup of tea/coffee. Me thinks more like a tabloid which I ignore and don't buy.