Tea Party Leader and Racism

[Secretariat]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/26/movements-leaders-say-bad-behavior-not-their-cup-o/?page=2

"Dale Robertson, founder of teaparty.org, said no one knows who might have yelled out racial epithets during the Capitol Hill protest. He said a Democratic lawmaker refused to accompany Capitol Police officers to identify a white man accused of spitting.

"These people could be anybody. I wouldn't put it past the Democrats to plant somebody there," Mr. Robertson said. "They're trying to label the tea party, but I've never seen any racial slurs.""

........and yet.....

http://www.mediaite.com/online/tea-party-leader-that-claimed-no-slurs-now-famous-for-n-word-sign/

"Call it the Tea Party version of the “Whitey Tape,” if the “Whitey Tape” really existed. Dale Robertson, self-proclaimed founder of the Tea Party movement, was quoted in today’s Washington Times denying he had ever “seen any racial slurs” at Tea Party events. He was responding to the furor over nasty, sometimes violent reactions to the passage of health care reform.

There’s just one problem with Robertson’s claim: He was famously photographed at a Feb. 27, 2009 Tea Party event holding a sign that featured the n-word. (via FreakOutNation)

For a movement trying to shake accusations of racism, the Tea Partiers could not have found a worse spokesman. Not only did Robertson’s sign have the n-word written on it, he had also misspelled it. The image plays into the worst stereotypes about Tea Partiers.

[ElKabong]

Senator Byrd, is that you? Oh, you're a fiiiine Democrat Senator, yes you are

[Space Monkey]

Oh no Secretariat, hes not a racist. All the RWT's on this board will tell you that. Hey, didn't you know, Bush kept us safe for 8 years until Obama got in office :lol: :lol: :lol: . Thats a gem from the politically astute Tom. Tom comes from the Rudy Guiliani School of History :lol: Oh, and the recession is all Clinton's fault :lol: :lol: .

I've been away with the wife in Orlando for the last few days. I can't locate that post right now or I'd paste it.

Glen Beck just called. He wants all the RWT's on this board to know that "I've been away with the wife in Orlando for the last few days" is really CODE for "I've been to an Obama Socialist rally" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bigmack]

Always a hoot to see the likes of hcap & Sec plop this stuff in like it's a big steaming cow pie for people to freak out over. Shame Sec is reading a story that is months old. It's time to re-think giving Sec credit for bringing a healthy debate at one point. Now he's just cow pie flingin', garden variety, wannabe provocateur.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/3_28_10_12_11_32.png

And then we've got the down right brain dead Space Monkey. Always a joy...

[PaceAdvantage]

That sign looks doctored to me...I blame the lefties....

Also, you lefties NEVER take the Washington Times seriously...so why should we now?

[Tom]

Guess what Sec?
That guy and his organization do not represent the tea party movement.
It was designed to make morns look stupid when they try to claim they are.
Worked, huh?:D

PA, should he be paying to advertise here when it is blatantly obvious he is nothing but an Acorn-like robot taking his daily orders to spread progaganda?

[Space Monkey]

Typical rightie responses. Insults, conspiracy theories and denial of a plain fact thats staring you right in the face. There is no 1 Tea Party movement. There are many different factions. This racist is part of it. I was watching Jusdon Phillips of Tea Party Nation this morning on MSNBC and he said that he only sees 1 or maybe 2 people with racist signs at his rallys. Yeah right. 1 or 2 a row. Thats part of their problem. They don't have a platform, or a candidate. Well, they got Sara. I think the Tea Party should get behind Sara. Shes their leader. Lets hear their platform and ole Gov. Quitter should announce her candidacy now!! Lets see how that will fly with the sane and intelligent among us.

[PaceAdvantage]

Typical rightie responses. Insults, conspiracy theories and denial of a plain fact thats staring you right in the face. There is no 1 Tea Party movement. There are many different factions. This racist is part of it. I was watching Jusdon Phillips of Tea Party Nation this morning on MSNBC and he said that he only sees 1 or maybe 2 people with racist signs at his rallys. Yeah right. 1 or 2 a row. Thats part of their problem. They don't have a platform, or a candidate. Well, they got Sara. I think the Tea Party should get behind Sara. Shes their leader. Lets hear their platform and ole Gov. Quitter should announce her candidacy now!! Lets see how that will fly with the sane and intelligent among us.Dude...a RACIST was part of OBAMA for how many years while he sat in that church?

Pardon me if I don't faint and drop my hankie while reading your rather banal reply.

[Space Monkey]

The propaganda in this country is FOX NEWS, Tom. They won a lawsuit that gives them the right to lie to the American people. Look it up.

[Tom]

Well, they got Sara. I think the Tea Party should get behind Sara. Shes their leader.


There is no leader. What you think we should do is your opinon. WE could care less what you think.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Typical rightie responses. Insults, conspiracy theories and denial of a plain fact thats staring you right in the face. There is no 1 Tea Party movement. There are many different factions. This racist is part of it. I was watching Jusdon Phillips of Tea Party Nation this morning on MSNBC and he said that he only sees 1 or maybe 2 people with racist signs at his rallys. Yeah right. 1 or 2 a row. Thats part of their problem. They don't have a platform, or a candidate. Well, they got Sara. I think the Tea Party should get behind Sara. Shes their leader. Lets hear their platform and ole Gov. Quitter should announce her candidacy now!! Lets see how that will fly with the sane and intelligent among us.

Thankfully, racism has been eradicated in all factions of society except the Tea Partiers. :rolleyes:

[Tom]

Well, they got Sara. I think the Tea Party should get behind Sara. Shes their leader.


There is no leader. What you think we should do is your opinon. WE could care less what you think.

Here is what a real racist sounds like.....he is the admitted spritual leader of Barack Obama for over 20 years. Worry about that one.
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[PaceAdvantage]

Thankfully, racism has been eradicated in all factions of society except the Tea Partiers. :rolleyes:Yup...I'm sure those New Black Panther Party members who were standing in front of that polling place were there to keep black people from voting for Obama in November 2008.

Nothing racist to see here...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/cityhall/New_Black_Panther_Party_Guarding_Fairmount_Ave_Pol ling_Place.html

Contributors like Space Monkey make me laugh with how selective they are on pointing out racism.

[Space Monkey]

http://www.foxbghsuit.com/jasw082600.htm

FOX lawsuit. They got this reversed on appeal.

PA, I sat in Catholic church every Sunday as a child and what I heard and what has transpired since has nothing to do with who I am today. This Jeremiah Wright stuff is old. I don't see how what church he attended, or how that pastor operated, has any relevance to how our President is running this country. Wright has about as much influence on our President as I do. I suppose you think hes a Muslim and not a citizen too?

[PaceAdvantage]

FOX lawsuit. They got this reversed on appeal.

PA, I sat in Catholic church every Sunday as a child and what I heard and what has transpired since has nothing to do with who I am today. This Jeremiah Wright stuff is old. I don't see how what church he attended, or how that pastor operated, has any relevance to how our President is running this country. Wright has about as much influence on our President as I do. I suppose you think hes a Muslim and not a citizen too?I feel the same way about some isolated idiot holding a sign or shouting the n-word. It has absolutely no influence on the actual message trying to be sent...and not only that, often times, there is absolutely no proof provided for these allegations.

At least we have Wright on tape.

[Tom]

HE said he was a muslem.
And 20 years of having a racist biggot as your spiritual advisor and more doesn't affect a person?????

[Space Monkey]

I'll be the first to admit that racism runs both ways. I made a post stating my opinion that the radical right that has taken over the Republican party, and has gained #'s because its bringing in people like the old John Birchers, KKK, and White Supremists like Tim McViegh. What got me pissed was a response (I don't remember from who) that to him it didn't matter. We are talking about our President. We are talking about members of the Republican party cheering on protesters from the Congress balcony who are spitting on and calling black members the n word. We are talking about blatant racism that can't be condoned. The Black Panthers and Jeremiah Wright have nothing to do with what's going on now. I fear for the safety of our leaders like I haven't since the Kennedy assassinations.

[Space Monkey]

HE said he was a muslem.

Fact check please.
He was sworn in on the Bible, not the Koran, and during a speech on the campaign trail, I heard him say that he was a Christian. If he was raised a Muslem, then it was not his choice. I don't care anyway. We are fighting the radical Muslem's. Are you saying all Muslems are our enemies?

[johnhannibalsmith]

...We are talking about members of the Republican party cheering on protesters from the Congress balcony who are spitting on and calling black members the n word....

Which members are the ones that are cheering for racism?

Do you really believe what you have typed here - that the support is for the handful of people spitting and spewing and not for the actual stated intent of the collective?

[bigmack]

I fear for the safety of our leaders like I haven't since the Kennedy assassinations.
Hey Chumly, you yap about typical right responses & about watching MSNBC, John Birch Society, the bias of Fox and whitey racism and now this about "fearing for the safety". You're garden variety left. So what?

Get some new material. This bit has been played out ad nauseum around here. :sleeping:

[JustRalph]

appropriate for our times

[Space Monkey]

Which members are the ones that are cheering for racism?

Bachman and I believe Boehner were encouraging from the balcony, the protesters below, that were spitting on congressman and calling out n.....'s at black members.

[boxcar]

Fact check please.
He was sworn in on the Bible, not the Koran

So what compels you to believe a proven serial liar? Are you implying that BO doesn't have a dishonest bone in his body?

and during a speech on the campaign trail, I heard him say that he was a Christian.

And during an interview he mentioned his "Muslim faith"...and didn't even catch himself. The news guy had to correct him!

If he was raised a Muslem, then it was not his choice. I don't care anyway. We are fighting the radical Muslem's. Are you saying all Muslems are our enemies?

Unless you know specifically who our Muslim enemies are, then why not? After all, it is Muslims who have called the U.S. "the great Satan" and have declared war on us! Why should we not err on the side of caution and assume that all Muslims consider us their enemy?

And one word about Wright and his pernicious, hate-filled BLT "gospel" message he preaches: No one sits under a preacher for a very long time, listens to and absorbs that preacher's teachings and sermons without being in substantial and essential agreement with the speaker. No one!
People don't and won't listen to things for any prolonged period of time that militate against their internal belief system -- against their world view. People consistently attend church services to have learn more about what they believe and to have it reinforced week in, week out.

Boxcar

[Space Monkey]

Hey Chumly, you yap about typical right responses & about watching MSNBC, John Birch Society, the bias of Fox and whitey racism and now this about "fearing for the safety". You're garden variety left. So what?

I state my opinion and I'm a Socialist, Commie, shithead, whose wrong 100% of the time. I should also find some European country to move to. There's not a whole lot of substance to your responses. Just read the quote above :lol: Its obvious that most of the posters here are followers of Rush, Beck, Hannity and FOX. Your posts are all about fear and hate. The typical rightwing gameplan. They count on the low information voter and that fits this bunch to a tee. Just getting your info from the above mentioned doesn't make you informed. Misinformed is more like it. You're all being played and you don't even know it. I just want to know, what has the Republican party done for you lately?

[GaryG]

I haven't heard the John Birch Society invoked in a coon's age. This is a bit of a reach even for you. Hey, I thought you said recently that you were leaving because you did not want to be associated with those who live here at PA. Guess not.

[boxcar]

I state my opinion and I'm a Socialist, Commie, shithead, whose wrong 100% of the time.

You're far too modest. Since you appear to assigning these sentiments or works to Mack, I'd have to say...3.000% would at least put you in the ball park.

I should also find some European country to move to.

If you don't have enough airfare or you're a professional Taker in this land, Cuba is closer and cheaper -- and the weather is pretty nifty, too.

Boxcar

[Tom]

I'll be the first to admit that racism runs both ways. I made a post stating my opinion that the radical right that has taken over the Republican party, and has gained #'s because its bringing in people like the old John Birchers, KKK, and White Supremists like Tim McViegh. What got me pissed was a response (I don't remember from who) that to him it didn't matter. We are talking about our President. We are talking about members of the Republican party cheering on protesters from the Congress balcony who are spitting on and calling black members the n word. We are talking about blatant racism that can't be condoned. The Black Panthers and Jeremiah Wright have nothing to do with what's going on now. I fear for the safety of our leaders like I haven't since the Kennedy assassinations.

No, YOU are talking about it.
None of it has been proven, most of it has been disproven.
You fear of what is going is ridiculous - it has been going on with repubs for years - they just don't use it as a political tool, and most have more balls than the dems do! God you drink a lot of Kool Aid.:lol:

[Tom]

Fact check please.
He was sworn in on the Bible, not the Koran, and during a speech on the campaign trail, I heard him say that he was a Christian. If he was raised a Muslem, then it was not his choice. I don't care anyway. We are fighting the radical Muslem's. Are you saying all Muslems are our enemies?

He said specifically he was a muslim in an interview...I will look for it. Anyone else got a link?

BTW, YOU brought it up, I am just clarifying what YOU posted. Don't you read your own whines?

[Tom]

Bachman and I believe Boehner were encouraging from the balcony, the protesters below, that were spitting on congressman and calling out n.....'s at black members.\

No, they were not. Prove it.
How soon you foget the Code Piunk people the dems gave pass into restricted areas to heckle repubs speaking. That was cool for you , huh?

[lsbets]

Space Monkey calling someone low information is kind of like Tom calling someone a bad speller. :faint: He is now the front runner for worst KO parrot on PA.

[Robert Goren]

The Right want it both ways. If he is follower of Rev. Wright, then he is a Christian, maybe not your brand of Christianity , but a Christian none the less. He can't be a Muslim. He can be one or the other or neither, but he can't be both. He may or may not be a lot of things, somethings that his detractors say defy logic.

[PaceAdvantage]

The Right want it both ways. If he is follower of Rev. Wright, then he is a Christian, maybe not your brand of Christianity , but a Christian none the less. He can't be a Muslim. He can be one or the other or neither, but he can't be both. He may or may not be a lot of things, somethings that his detractors say defy logic.Oh boy...you just got 'em good... :rolleyes:

[PaceAdvantage]

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[boxcar]

The Right want it both ways. If he is follower of Rev. Wright, then he is a Christian, maybe not your brand of Christianity , but a Christian none the less. He can't be a Muslim. He can be one or the other or neither, but he can't be both. He may or may not be a lot of things, somethings that his detractors say defy logic.

Really? I have never believed for a moment he's a true Christian. So, how have I had it both ways?

Furthermore, do you know what an apostate is or a heretic is? Do you know the bible makes a distinction between true believers and false ones?

Boxcar
P.S. Or do you need a definition of "is"? :rolleyes:

[Robert Goren]

Furthermore, do you know what an apostate is or a heretic is? Do you know the bible makes a distinction between true believers and false ones? Yes , I do to both questions. I have a feeling we may disagree on who is what though.

[NJ Stinks]

Hey Chumly, you yap about typical right responses & about watching MSNBC, John Birch Society, the bias of Fox and whitey racism and now this about "fearing for the safety". You're garden variety left. So what?

Get some new material. This bit has been played out ad nauseum around here. :sleeping:

Space Monkey, take it from me. If Mack tells that you must be watching MSNBC or that you are "garden variety left", take it as a compliment. Apparently, Mack is big MSNBC fan himself because he's always talking about it.

Anyway, I enjoy reading your posts. Just remember that the next time somebody on the right belittles your posts. :ThmbUp:

[NJ Stinks]

The Right want it both ways. If he is follower of Rev. Wright, then he is a Christian, maybe not your brand of Christianity , but a Christian none the less. He can't be a Muslim. He can be one or the other or neither, but he can't be both. He may or may not be a lot of things, somethings that his detractors say defy logic.

I hate to piss off the boss but you raise an excellent point, Robert. :ThmbUp:

[Tom]

Space Monkey calling someone low information is kind of like Tom calling someone a bad speller. :faint: He is now the front runner for worst KO parrot on PA.

Thanks. I think. :rolleyes:

[GaryG]

The "Rev." Wright's church bears no resemblance to the real Church of Christ. He is a political rabble rouser telling those folks what they want to hear. Apparently they would rather hear those rantings than hear the Word of God preached. This "Rev." used the Lord's name in vain from his pulpit to curse the country that has made him a millionaire.

[boxcar]

The "Rev." Wright's church bears no resemblance to the real Church of Christ. He is a political rabble rouser telling those folks what they want to hear. Apparently they would rather hear those rantings than hear the Word of God preached. This "Rev." used the Lord's name in vain from his pulpit to curse the country that has made him a millionaire.

Yup, even heretics are great capitalists, albeit hypocrites also. :D

Boxcar

[boxcar]

I hate to piss off the boss but you raise an excellent point, Robert. :ThmbUp:

So...if this proven pathological liar in the White House says he's a Christian (with his oath on the Good Book and all), you'd believe him? Can you tell us why?

Boxcar

[PaceAdvantage]

I hate to piss off the boss but you raise an excellent point, Robert. :ThmbUp:It's going to take a lot more than this...lol

And for the record, I believe Obama has stated he is no longer a follower of Wright, and hasn't been for quite a while. Are you and Det. Goren implying that we should not believe Obama when he told us he tossed the good Rev. aside?

[johnhannibalsmith]

...Anyway, I enjoy reading your posts. Just remember that the next time somebody on the right belittles your posts. :ThmbUp:

Isn't it enough to sacrifice credibility with your own proclamations? :p

[NJ Stinks]

So...if this proven pathological liar in the White House says he's a Christian (with his oath on the Good Book and all), you'd believe him? Can you tell us why?

Boxcar

Obviously, I love Kool Aid. :lol:

[boxcar]

Obviously, I love Kool Aid. :lol:

I ask a serious question in response to what I thought were serious statements by you. But now you answer like this? How can anyone take you seriously?

Boxcar

[GaryG]

I ask a serious question in response to what I thought were serious statements by you. But now you answer like this? How can anyone take you seriously?

BoxcarThat sort of dismissive reponse means he has nothing relevant to add.

[boxcar]

Yes , I do to both questions. I have a feeling we may disagree on who is what though.

Well, let me help you out a little. First about liars:

Rev 21:8
8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars , their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
NASB

As of right now, it doesn't seem that BO is going to have a very bright future when he dies, unless he truly repents and turns Christ before then.

And again,

1 Tim 1:8-11
8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
NASB

As Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruits."

Boxcar

[NJ Stinks]

That sort of dismissive reponse means he has nothing relevant to add.

Check.

I don't dwell on on Obama's faith anymore than I did GWB's or any other president. Actions are important to me - not where somebody goes to church on Sunday. In fact, I believe many politicians wouldn't set foot in a church at all if they didn't believe it was a job requirement.

[Robert Goren]

In fact, I believe many politicians wouldn't set foot in a church at all if they didn't believe it was a job requirement.Truer words were never written.:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:

[boxcar]

Check.

I don't dwell on on Obama's faith anymore than I did GWB's or any other president. Actions are important to me - not where somebody goes to church on Sunday. In fact, I believe many politicians wouldn't set foot in a church at all if they didn't believe it was a job requirement.

Since when did it become a "job requirement"? Where is that written? But regardless, since you feel this way, how comfortable are with the fact that so many politicians are probably hypocrites, coming right out the chute? Seems to me that politicians may be just as evil as their corporate counterparts. (Surprise, surprise :rolleyes: ) Even more so when you consider that the broad definition of "capitalist" is anyone who has capital, especially lots of it, which so very many Dem(on)s do! They're hypocrites already twice over! They think nothing of demonizing capitalism night and day while at the same time rolling in all their dough. (Kinda reminds of you all those phony showbiz-type, money-hungry preachers on the boob tube that libs love to hate, doesn't it?)

These politicians sure don't have very much going for them in the way of character, do they? This is particularly true of the rich ones sporting wide liberal stripes down their backs. You libs surely do have morally-impoverished heroes that you adoringly idolize in public office, don't you?

Boxcar

[Warren Henry]

There is no evidence to prove either. The black Congressman who is mentioned as the spitee refused to press charges. That Congressman is from my neck of the woods. Although he preaches in a church, some of his actions locally would seem to indicate that he is not always totally honest.

[boxcar]

There is no evidence to prove either. The black Congressman who is mentioned as the spitee refused to press charges. That Congressman is from my neck of the woods. Although he preaches in a church, some of his actions locally would seem to indicate that he is not always totally honest.

If you know where he preaches, you should do a little investigating to see if the church adheres to BLT. (Many churches publish a statement of faith, for example.) If it does, that would speak volumes about his probable character.

Boxcar

[Tom]

Last night, on O'Reilly, Good old proven liar Al Sharpton claimed to have seen the tape that proves the N word was being used. The one that doesn't exist. When Bill pressed him on it, he hemmed and hawed and then tried to claim that well, there were a lot of reporters there that heard it, but some things never changed, old Al is a sticnking lying racist, nothing more. :lol:

Here' my proof he is lying. There is a $10K reward for this tape. Do you think this low life would not be knocking down little old ladies to get to it? :lol:

How low does this guy go?

[Steve 'StatMan']

I state my opinion and I'm a Socialist, Commie, shithead, whose wrong 100% of the time. I should also find some European country to move to.

"Some people call me the Space Monkey
Some call me the Commie of Love
Some people call me Comrade <wreee wreew>
Cause I post, with incompetence above."

[Robert Goren]

Well, let me help you out a little. First about liars:

Rev 21:8
8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars , their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
NASB

As of right now, it doesn't seem that BO is going to have a very bright future when he dies, unless he truly repents and turns Christ before then.

And again,

1 Tim 1:8-11
8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.
NASB

As Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruits."

BoxcarI am not going to put up the exact quote it here, but I am in line with Luke 18: 18-30. The New English Standard Version. For those who are interested you can look it up. I would also like to add one of my favorite bumper stickers from many years ago " Open your Bible, Free gift inside."

[boxcar]

I am not going to put up the exact quote it here, but I am in line with Luke 18: 18-30. The New English Standard Version. For those who are interested you can look it up. I would also like to add one of my favorite bumper stickers from many years ago " Open your Bible, Free gift inside."

Huh? You in line with what? What are you talking about? What does this passage have to do with the topic at hand?

Boxcar

[johnhannibalsmith]

Last night, on O'Reilly, Good old proven liar Al Sharpton claimed to have seen the tape that proves the N word was being used. The one that doesn't exist. When Bill pressed him on it, he hemmed and hawed and then tried to claim that well, there were a lot of reporters there that heard it, but some things never changed, old Al is a sticnking lying racist, nothing more. :lol:

Here' my proof he is lying. There is a $10K reward for this tape. Do you think this low life would not be knocking down little old ladies to get to it? :lol:

How low does this guy go?

Sharpton has a greater vested interest in preserving racism than Gore does in melting the earth. He's just another enlightened soul that fights to keep America divided for his own personal gain. I've always sort of enjoyed Al because he always proves just how ridiculous it is to try to define racism and then apply the definition.

Even still - I'm not sure what the big deal is about the proof on the tape. I would certainly not be shocked to learn that some guy in a group of thousands used a racial slur. That isn't the amazing story here - the amazing story is that assuming that he did, that somehow one voice speaks for those thousands of others. Who in their right mind can draw the conclusion that everyone protesting in Washington and anyone affiliated with the protesters share this particular view with the alleged racist?

[GaryG]

The key point is how desperate the left is to discredit the Tea Party movement. Which is more serious, the alleged racial slur or this:

WASHINGTON - U.S. authorities have arrested and charged a man with threatening to kill the No. 2 Republican in the House of Representatives, Eric Cantor, and his family, according to court documents filed on Monday.

Norman Leboon, 38, was accused of making the threat in a video on YouTube in which he said, "You receive my bullets in your office, remember they will be placed in your heads," according to an FBI affidavit accompanying the charge.

[Robert Goren]

Huh? You in line with what? What are you talking about? What does this passage have to do with the topic at hand?

Boxcar I am sorry. You are right, I did stray off topic. :blush:

[ArlJim78]

Its a time honored tradition of the left, abusive ad hominem attacks is the best weapon they have. None of the facts are on their side so like scoundrels they head to the gutter. It is a tactic that is losing its effectiveness however because pretty much everyone is on to the scam.

[46zilzal]

A new iteration on something very old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_war

The expression was introduced again by the 1991 publication of Culture Wars: The Struggle to Define America by James Davison Hunter, a sociologist at the University of Virginia. In it, Hunter described what he saw as a dramatic realignment and polarization that had transformed American politics and culture.

He argued that on an increasing number of "hot-button" defining issues — abortion, gun politics, separation of church and state, privacy, recreational drug use, homosexuality, censorship issues — there had come to be two definable polarities. Furthermore, it was not just that there were a number of divisive issues, but that society had divided along essentially the same lines on each of these issues, so as to constitute two warring groups, defined primarily not by nominal religion, ethnicity, social class, or even political affiliation, but rather by ideological world views.

Hunter characterized this polarity as stemming from opposite impulses, toward what he refers to as Progressivism and Orthodoxy. The dichotomy has been adopted with varying labels, including, for example, by Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly who emphasizes differences between "Secular-Progressives" and "Traditionalists".

[Robert Goren]

The key point is how desperate the left is to discredit the Tea Party movement. Which is more serious, the alleged racial slur or this:

WASHINGTON - U.S. authorities have arrested and charged a man with threatening to kill the No. 2 Republican in the House of Representatives, Eric Cantor, and his family, according to court documents filed on Monday.

Norman Leboon, 38, was accused of making the threat in a video on YouTube in which he said, "You receive my bullets in your office, remember they will be placed in your heads," according to an FBI affidavit accompanying the charge. This wacko nut job has made threats against almost anyone who is anyone including Nancy Pelosi and the makers of the movie "Babe." If you wish to view any of his videos on youtube his name there is "shiamuslimcantbestop" He should have been locked up a long time ago.

[Tom]

A new iteration on something very old.


The dems are good at this. Remember the Breck Girls' Two Americas?
Obama demonizing groups left and right.....politics of division. The dems are dividers.

Conservatives focus on:

Fiscal responsibility
Less government
National security

All else is noise, and this is why so many are trying to silence Sara Palin. Not that she will ever get the nomination - she will not. But she is sitting on Reagen's three legged stool of conservatism and the messege is being received by many. Dems keep trying to throw enough shit out there to divert the mesaage, - like the lie about people chanting th N word and making a big deal out of so-called threats agaisnt them. Stupak got death threats while he pretended to oppose abortin, but not a word from Plastic Pelosi. But as soon a some one fart in the general directi of a dem, she is all up in arms about it. The dems are woosies. Repubs have lived with this tye of creap from the left all along.

Dems are dividers. Plain and simple. Like an African safari, the dems have big tents. And like a safari, gues who is carrying them on thier backs?

[PaceAdvantage]

This wacko nut job has made threats against almost anyone who is anyone including Nancy Pelosi and the makers of the movie "Babe." If you wish to view any of his videos on youtube his name there is "shiamuslimcantbestop" He should have been locked up a long time ago.Yes, but the alleged hurler of racial slurs is representative of everyone who has joined the Tea Party movement, right Detective?

That's what the left wants everyone to believe, and that's why they paint it in such a way...

Did the news media paint the anti-war movement of the 60s and 70s in such a way that everyone who was against the Vietnam war and who demonstrated such was a terrorist going around blowing up buildings and killing cops like members of The Weather Underground?

No, of course not...this little song and dance has been around for ages...it's funny that those on the left think this tactic actually has a chance...

[Robert Goren]

No, but it is up to the movement to disassociate itself from those types. The anti war movement was painted in a very bad light by the media at it start and to this day is view by some as a bunch of drug crazed kids. They did not do good job of getting rid of that image. The tea party has ways to go before it compared to the anti war movement in it size. It may get there , but until I a rally in Lincoln, Ne the heart of conservatism get more than a couple hundred people, I am not not going to think that it is anything too big. In 1969 I attended an anti war rally in Lincoln that more than 5,000 people. We had a very hard changing government policies with a lot more people, what chance do the Tea Partyers with the small numbers they have. They have bigger crowds here protesting motorcycle helmet laws. JMO

[Buckeye]

A new iteration on something very old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_war

The expression was introduced again by the 1991 publication of Culture Wars: The Struggle to Define America by James Davison Hunter, a sociologist at the University of Virginia. In it, Hunter described what he saw as a dramatic realignment and polarization that had transformed American politics and culture.

He argued that on an increasing number of "hot-button" defining issues — abortion, gun politics, separation of church and state, privacy, recreational drug use, homosexuality, censorship issues — there had come to be two definable polarities. Furthermore, it was not just that there were a number of divisive issues, but that society had divided along essentially the same lines on each of these issues, so as to constitute two warring groups, defined primarily not by nominal religion, ethnicity, social class, or even political affiliation, but rather by ideological world views.

Hunter characterized this polarity as stemming from opposite impulses, toward what he refers to as Progressivism and Orthodoxy. The dichotomy has been adopted with varying labels, including, for example, by Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly who emphasizes differences between "Secular-Progressives" and "Traditionalists".

Current times are bad for many people in the USA and bad enough (hopefully) to bring our Country together. But if not-- I pray they get worse! The issues must be simplified to get everybody on board. That's what happened in WWII, that's what happened to cause our Revolution and Civil War.

It wasn't about health care. :)

[46zilzal]

Current times are bad for many people in the USA and bad enough (hopefully) to bring our Country together. But if not-- I pray they get worse! The issues must be simplified to get everybody on board. That's what happened in WWII, that's what happened to cause our Revolution and Civil War.

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These reactionary Bible thumpers want to turn back the clock and throw science down the well akin to the Dark Ages in Europe

[Buckeye]

What does the Bible have to do with a Country acting according to it's will?

[46zilzal]

What does the Bible have to do with a Country acting according to it's will?
what planet have you been on?

according to its will?

funny these loons really think the end of the world is coming.

[Buckeye]

again, you said "the end of the World" is coming not me. Now please retrace your steps back to the idea that a Country can establish and exert it's will.

[Buckeye]

Here's a clue for you, it's been done many times before.

[Buckeye]

by us!

[boxcar]

again, you said "the end of the World" is coming not me. Now please retrace your steps back to the idea that a Country can establish and exert it's will.

Buck, you have to try to understand something will Zilly: Connecting the Dots is way beyond his pay grade. Asking a blind man to retrace his steps is analogous to asking someone under a severe vertigo attack to stop the room from spinning.

Boxcar

[JustRalph]

Check out Harry Reid's Boys with their eggs

The end of this video is awesome, another left wing genius

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[boxcar]

These reactionary Bible thumpers want to turn back the clock and throw science down the well akin to the Dark Ages in Europe

What do political forms of government have to do with science?

Boxcar

[46zilzal]

again, you said "the end of the World" is coming not me. Now please retrace your steps back to the idea that a Country can establish and exert it's will.
This bull shit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture

[skate]

The Right want it both ways. If he is follower of Rev. Wright, then he is a Christian, maybe not your brand of Christianity , but a Christian none the less. He can't be a Muslim. He can be one or the other or neither, but he can't be both. He may or may not be a lot of things, somethings that his detractors say defy logic.

Sooooo, if you follow baseball, you can't play footsballs...no more anywho.:eek: