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Igeteven
03-28-2010, 12:18 PM
To Save Horse Racing the Smaller Tracks have to be sacrifice.

We all know the handle is down across the nation. We are all screaming that the take out is to high.


A high percentage of players want a 10 % across the board on all bets, so it produces more winners.


As I see it now, New York, Florida, Kentucky and California can survive, however, the smaller tracks will close.

Right now we need a Wal Mart type of situation to get the game back where it belongs and bring in new players.

When Wal Mart comes to town, a lot of business close down to their prices. Yes, I feel sorry for them, however, there is no sympathy in economics for anyone. This is our system.


What this shows, economics control the business world and we have to live with it , the people have to move on to other things to make a living.

Banks do it all the time and so do the Airlines.

Yes, people will get hurt, however this will bring back the game and make it whole again until another crisis comes along.

Please don't forget, horse racing is competing with other gambling interests, that start at a 5% take out and up.


Any other solutions out there.

thaskalos
03-28-2010, 12:58 PM
To Save Horse Racing the Smaller Tracks have to be sacrifice.

We all know the handle is down across the nation. We are all screaming that the take out is to high.


A high percentage of players want a 10 % across the board on all bets, so it produces more winners.


As I see it now, New York, Florida, Kentucky and California can survive, however, the smaller tracks will close.

Right now we need a Wal Mart type of situation to get the game back where it belongs and bring in new players.

When Wal Mart comes to town, a lot of business close down to their prices. Yes, I feel sorry for them, however, there is no sympathy in economics for anyone. This is our system.


What this shows, economics control the business world and we have to live with it , the people have to move on to other things to make a living.

Banks do it all the time and so do the Airlines.

Yes, people will get hurt, however this will bring back the game and make it whole again until another crisis comes along.

Please don't forget, horse racing is competing with other gambling interests, that start at a 5% take out and up.


Any other solutions out there. The smaller tracks will not close, as long as they have the slots to support them. Racetracks with slots are the most financially sound tracks around, regardless of mutual handle. Do you think Mountaineer, Philly Park, Penn National and Charles Town are going anywhere? They are here to stay.

Robert Goren
03-28-2010, 01:02 PM
The smaller tracks will not close, as long as they have the slots to support them. Racetracks with slots are the most financially sound tracks around, regardless of mutual handle. Do you think Mountaineer, Philly Park, Penn National and Charles Town are going anywhere? They are here to stay. Or at least until they convince the lawmakers to let them keep the slots, but dump the races.

BluegrassProf
03-28-2010, 01:10 PM
So, to clarify...model the racing industry on Walmart, the airline industry, and the banking industry?

Model the business of horseracing primarily on THE corporate monstrosity, an industry in relative shambles, and an institution that has, in the not-so-distant past, tanked to the point of national depression?

And...also to clarify...eliminate access to local racing (for fans AND horsemen) and local jobs?

Am I not seeing something here? :blush:

thaskalos
03-28-2010, 01:17 PM
Or at least until they convince the lawmakers to let them keep the slots, but dump the races. BINGO!!!

Thats the ultimate goal of all the racetracks. They want full scale casinos so they can attract the massive crowds. If I were a racetrack owner, how happy would I be to own a huge, beautiful structure, resting on a huge, expensive piece of real estate, and have empty grandstands and troubles paying the bills? And across town, people are in riverboat casinos, packed like sardines...

cj
03-28-2010, 01:50 PM
Racetracks have to be sacrificed, but it can't only be small tracks. There need to be tracks gone at all levels of racing. You need places for cheap horses to run. If anything, those races fill, while higher quality races are short on horses.

andymays
03-28-2010, 02:03 PM
The quality of racing has gone way down in California. In years past it would be very difficult for horses from Golden Gate or Turf Paradise to ship in and win. Now it's commonplace.

Things are changing and power is shifting.

The rise of Oaklawn is a good example.

rastajenk
03-28-2010, 02:11 PM
I started a thread about this a couple months ago, and I'm still waiting on a decent reply. How is eliminating tracks, jobs, and horsepeople going to make the game stronger? All I got then was a bias against inferior horses; nobody really addressed how the dots are supposed to be connected.

Might as well address the original poster here: How is your modern version of the medieval practice of bloodletting supposed to make racing stronger?

cj
03-28-2010, 02:13 PM
I started a thread about this a couple months ago, and I'm still waiting on a decent reply. How is eliminating tracks, jobs, and horsepeople going to make the game stronger? All I got then was a bias against inferior horses; nobody really addressed how the dots are supposed to be connected.

Might as well address the original poster here: How is your modern version of the medieval practice of bloodletting supposed to make racing stronger?

Betting drives the sport, and bigger fields will create bigger pools and bigger purses. The horses are way too spread out right now.

However, I agree, you can't just eliminate the cheap tracks. You need them even more actually. For every Class A track, there should be two Class Bs and three or four Class Cs.

Igeteven
03-28-2010, 04:06 PM
So, to clarify...model the racing industry on Walmart, the airline industry, and the banking industry?

Model the business of horseracing primarily on THE corporate monstrosity, an industry in relative shambles, and an institution that has, in the not-so-distant past, tanked to the point of national depression?

And...also to clarify...eliminate access to local racing (for fans AND horsemen) and local jobs?

Am I not seeing something here? :blush:


I can tell you this, economics will take its course

for the better or the worse.

Deepsix
03-28-2010, 04:25 PM
Profound!