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hcap
03-25-2010, 07:01 PM
Bipartisanship with these a**h****

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100323/ts_dailybeast/7269_scarynewgoppoll

New Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama:
Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers

38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"

Yeah so tell us again how the Dems are somehow "framing" the loonie rethugs as violent incidents build throughout the country.

bigmack
03-25-2010, 07:13 PM
Bipartisanship with these a**h****
Hatred is oozing out of you and it smells funny. Go to the back of the bus.

There was bipartisanship. 34 Dems voted against the behemoth bill. :eek:

boxcar
03-25-2010, 07:28 PM
Bipartisanship with these a**h****

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100323/ts_dailybeast/7269_scarynewgoppoll

New Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama:
Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers

38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"

Yeah so tell us again how the Dems are somehow "framing" the loonie rethugs as violent incidents build throughout the country.

Yo, 'cap, here's a clue for you: The polls and violence aren't connected. But what makes for a far better and tighter connection would be for the Dems to play the Distraction Card, since now after the fact BO is compelled to go out and sell a bill that has already passed! Why in the world would he have to do that if the majority of Americans were on board with ObamaCare? :bang: :bang: So, the Dems' game plan or strategy is simple to understand: They want to cast themselves as being victims so that, perhaps, BO (and even other Dems) would be spared from having to go into too much detail about the bill. For example, Weiner on Bill O' last night came off very poorly because he was unable to answer a very direct and simple question put to him. He either would not or could not tell Americans who the agency was who will be enforcing the mandate for coverage. In short, the Dems need to pull out all the stops because they really do want to STOP talking about the bill now that it's passed, so that that they can keep advancing their socialist agenda. A big distraction would help with that desire.

Boxcar

boxcar
03-25-2010, 07:33 PM
And one more thing I want to add, Mr. 'Cap: Knowing liberals like only I do :) ,
their Distraction Game might even have a bigger goal: They would, I believe, love to incite widespread civil disobedience, since elections are right around the corner. If they could succeed in doing this, BO could declare Martial Law (out of his compassionate concern for the safety of all Americans, of course), and postpone this year's elections indefinitely. This would give the Dems more time to enact more of their Marxist-oriented agenda. Liberals are NOT above sinking to this level of depravity.

Boxcar

hcap
03-25-2010, 07:38 PM
So box, is Obama the anti christ? That seems right up your twisted alley.
After all you agree with the Birther bullshit.And all of the other crap that these "civilized" rethugs expouse
Don;t you?
The Socialist bullshit/
The Muslim bullshit?

Is Obama the anti christ? Don't be shy. Let's hear it

Space Monkey
03-25-2010, 07:38 PM
Our President is trying to calm the waters. You call it selling the bill. There is so much hatred out there its frightening. Its not just the tea bag types spitting on Congressman and yelling racial slurs. Its also in Congress with that leader of the birthers from Texas calling out baby killer at Stupak. Or that racist Joe Brown from South Carolina falsely calling our President a liar. The hate and the violence is coming from the right 99% of the time. Rocks being thrown through Democrats windows, threatening phone calls and the gas line being cut from a Congreeman's home. How soon will it be before one of these right wing whackos does some real violence? The Republican party is being run by the corporations and the foot soldiers are a mix of racial white supremists, john birch and kkk descendants, along with the militia types. Its ugly. If you all here want to be a part of it, thats your choice. :ThmbDown:

ArlJim78
03-25-2010, 07:47 PM
who cares? at least all of those groups have correctly pegged the guy as a threat to the country.

what can you say about people that built the guy up so much, and worship him.
those are the real dimbulbs.

ArlJim78
03-25-2010, 07:49 PM
Our President is trying to calm the waters. You call it selling the bill. There is so much hatred out there its frightening. Its not just the tea bag types spitting on Congressman and yelling racial slurs. Its also in Congress with that leader of the birthers from Texas calling out baby killer at Stupak. Or that racist Joe Brown from South Carolina falsely calling our President a liar. The hate and the violence is coming from the right 99% of the time. Rocks being thrown through Democrats windows, threatening phone calls and the gas line being cut from a Congreeman's home. How soon will it be before one of these right wing whackos does some real violence? The Republican party is being run by the corporations and the foot soldiers are a mix of racial white supremists, john birch and kkk descendants, along with the militia types. Its ugly. If you all here want to be a part of it, thats your choice. :ThmbDown:
I'm very suspicious of your "independent" identity. you said on another thread you have voted for many Republicans in the past. Can you name a few that you have supported?

Space Monkey
03-25-2010, 08:20 PM
who cares? at least all of those groups have correctly pegged the guy as a threat to the country.

I can only take that to mean that you find nothing wrong with the KKK, John Birch Society and White Supremists, while calling our President a threat to this country?? I think I'm done here. I don't want to be associated with people like you.

skate
03-25-2010, 08:54 PM
Bipartisanship with these a**h****

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20100323/ts_dailybeast/7269_scarynewgoppoll

New Harris poll reveals Republican attitudes about Obama:
Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers

38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"

Yeah so tell us again how the Dems are somehow "framing" the loonie rethugs as violent incidents build throughout the country.

Point being?

you see, can you see that whatever this poll is about , You have no facts, because you only have one side of the discusion.
Then you try to work up a lather. The lather is usless, because it's full of crap.

Now, if i ended here, then i would be giving you the very same levil of concern that You gave us...

Example...you say in your poll "38% of Repugs (20% overall)Say that BO is doing many of the same things Hitler did".

What the hell...is 38%....20% overall...AND and and when you add BO does many of the same things Hitler did, does that include Combing his Hair?


Man, look... go back a few... take a breadth...Start over. Better yet, listen to Ann, willya, huh, will ya do that for me, thanks.

skate
03-25-2010, 08:56 PM
spacemonkey is soooooo quite, aint he.?

GaryG
03-25-2010, 09:11 PM
There is no debate about Barack Hussein being either a socialist or a muslim. He is what he is, and now we have to repeal all of this shit.... Can't make his Iranian brothers mad.....he is their man in Washington. Well, Castro land Chavez like him.

skate
03-25-2010, 09:25 PM
who cares? at least all of those groups have correctly pegged the guy as a threat to the country.

what can you say about people that built the guy up so much, and worship him.
those are the real dimbulbs.

Man thats beautiful, right on point

Tom
03-25-2010, 10:06 PM
Relax, hcap, it can't happen here.
vKITpVovTAE&feature=related

johnhannibalsmith
03-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Relax, hcap, it can't happen here.
vKITpVovTAE&feature=related

Will I get in trouble for admitting that Freak Out is one of my favorite LPs...?

horses4courses
03-25-2010, 10:13 PM
Relax, hcap, it can't happen here.
vKITpVovTAE&feature=related

Throwing Zappa and the mothers out there?

Did you bring enough acid to share with the class, Tom?

Tom
03-25-2010, 10:14 PM
Will I get in trouble for admitting that Freak Out is one of my favorite LPs...?

No. Just don't eat the yellow snow,
way down there, where the huskies go.

ArlJim78
03-25-2010, 10:21 PM
Will I get in trouble for admitting that Freak Out is one of my favorite LPs...?
Don't tell anyone but one of my favorites is Apostrophe (').

johnhannibalsmith
03-25-2010, 10:25 PM
No. Just don't eat the yellow snow,
way down there, where the huskies go.

Okay, so long as you aren't in that Hot Plate Heaven at the Green Hotel.

GaryG
03-25-2010, 10:29 PM
Let's make the water turn black....isn't that the one about Kenny's little creature on display?

JustRalph
03-25-2010, 10:42 PM
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I can only take that to mean that you find nothing wrong with the KKK, John Birch Society and White Supremists, while calling our President a threat to this country?? I think I'm done here. I don't want to be associated with people like you.


In the United States, you are allowed to be a member of all of those groups. In fact, A sitting Democratic Senator was a member of the KKK and other White Supremacists Groups.

Funny how the Left forgets how our country was forged. A Tyrannical government began to infringe on the rights of men. And many supporters of that Government laid down their lives trying to defend it. The Government was overthrown and our founding documents were created to prevent it from happening again. Why should this be any different?

I don't advocate violence etc.......but think about our past and history. It can be enlightening

ArlJim78
03-25-2010, 11:05 PM
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I can only take that to mean that you find nothing wrong with the KKK, John Birch Society and White Supremists, while calling our President a threat to this country?? I think I'm done here. I don't want to be associated with people like you.
you were the one who threw out the KKK, etc. It's got nothing to do with me or why I oppose Obama or anything else going on right now. there were no N word taunts this week, no spitting, its all smear tactics by people who cannot win on the arguments so they resort to the Alinsky tactics.

those names are merely thrown out by you and the others on the left to deflect attention from the disasterous results inflicted on this country by your policies and to hide the real agenda which as we are finding out now is all about controlling people and wealth redistribution.

I'm still waiting for your list of your alltime favorite Republicans, and the reasons why you supported them.

PaceAdvantage
03-26-2010, 05:09 AM
Our President is trying to calm the waters. You call it selling the bill. There is so much hatred out there its frightening. Its not just the tea bag types spitting on Congressman and yelling racial slurs. Its also in PCongress with that leader of the birthers from Texas calling out baby killer at Stupak. Or that racist Joe Brown from South Carolina falsely calling our President a liar. The hate and the violence is coming from the right 99% of the time. Rocks being thrown through Democrats windows, threatening phone calls and the gas line being cut from a Congreeman's home. How soon will it be before one of these right wing whackos does some real violence? The Republican party is being run by the corporations and the foot soldiers are a mix of racial white supremists, john birch and kkk descendants, along with the militia types. Its ugly. If you all here want to be a part of it, thats your choice. :ThmbDown:I say tough shit...learn to deal with it...we learned to deal with your eight years of Bush bashing/smearing/hatred...

And always remember, the KKK was given LIFE and POWER by the PARTY of DEMOCRATS. Robert Byrd is a living example of this fact.

Tom
03-26-2010, 07:39 AM
Obama.....calm the waters? :lol:

This LSOS is a divider - he does nothing but DEMONIZE others to hide his own
pathetic inadequacies in every area. He is a manipulator.

The man is mentally ill - take that to the bank....before he takes the banks!:rolleyes:

rastajenk
03-26-2010, 01:46 PM
Robert Byrd is living? I thought they just propped him up to fill a seat.

46zilzal
03-26-2010, 01:48 PM
I say tough shit...learn to deal with it...we learned to deal with your eight years of Bush bashing/smearing/hatred...


Hell with the rutabaga all you had to do was quote his moronic verbal dyslexia all the time to show what an out of touch brain dead clown he was

Robert Goren
03-26-2010, 01:55 PM
I say tough shit...learn to deal with it...we learned to deal with your eight years of Bush bashing/smearing/hatred...

And always remember, the KKK was given LIFE and POWER by the PARTY of DEMOCRATS. Robert Byrd is a living example of this fact.They were also the party that abandoned them in the 60s.

jognlope
03-26-2010, 02:37 PM
Many people still think it's a government takeover and includes a public option. The bill is a moderate bill but still has that aura of public option hovering over it. I looked up buying insurance across state lines, does not appear a good solution at all because it wouldn't lower costs. Health savings accounts cost about $500 a month, so that knocks out a bunch of working class people. What about leaving it up to the states, a mandate to offer a low-cost catastrophic insurance option with a high deductible? Yet that still does not bring premiums down and may raise them. My state NY that option under the "Health New York", about $180-220 a month for the typical working class salary, but premiums are still sky high for the rest and rising, and small business doesn't get any tax credit and therefore, those with 25 or less employees can't afford it, or they pay it and avoid highing any new workers.

But when the individual mandate does kick in 2014, I think the young and healthy should be able to buy the minimal insurance with a high deductible, catastrophic not comprehensive.

Tom
03-26-2010, 02:37 PM
Hell with the rutabaga all you had to do was quote his moronic verbal dyslexia all the time to show what an out of touch brain dead clown he was

He sure looks pretty smart compared the two coconut-heads we got in there now! You would see that if you looked at half of the utter nonsense these two spew out like you did with Bush. But you were never one to let a fact get in your way.

riskman
03-26-2010, 02:59 PM
It appears hcap bait was not enticing enough to hook any extremists so far. Well, if there not biting move the boat and try a different lure.

JustRalph
03-26-2010, 03:32 PM
They were also the party that abandoned them in the 60s.


You obviously don't have any relatives in WV do you? :lol:

There are places in WV where blacks don't dare tread. To this day.

46zilzal
03-26-2010, 03:35 PM
You obviously don't have any relatives in WV do you? :

There are places in WV where blacks don't dare tread. To this day.
I used to work Summers moving furniture with several fellows who were teachers in West Virginia and overheard one tell the other :"Can you imagine if they all knew what it was like out here? They would all drop what they were doing and move to California."

Truly an isolated island of humanity.

bigmack
03-26-2010, 03:39 PM
It appears hcap bait was not enticing enough to hook any extremists so far. Well, if there not biting move the boat and try a different lure.
Same old fishin' story for little hcap

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u70/macktime/fishing3.gif

hcap
03-27-2010, 04:08 AM
Fishing?? Ok.......

Fact remains 24 percent of rethugs say "he may be the Antichrist."

No one including our resident preacher wants to deal with this. 24% is a substantial number.

45 percent of Republicans buy in with the Birthers

So it looks to me that a good portion of rethugs, over 1/4 are leaning to the fringe.
Not all but there appears to be tacit support for the far right radicals.


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/spring/rage-on-the-right

"Already there are signs of similar violence emanating from the radical right. Since the installation of Barack Obama, right-wing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers. Racist skinheads and others have been arrested in alleged plots to assassinate the nation’s first black president. One man from Brockton, Mass. — who told police he had learned on white supremacist websites that a genocide was under way against whites — is charged with murdering two black people and planning to kill as many Jews as possible on the day after Obama’s inauguration. Most recently, a rash of individuals with antigovernment, survivalist or racist views have been arrested in a series of bomb cases.

As the movement has exploded, so has the reach of its ideas, aided and abetted by commentators and politicians in the ostensible mainstream. While in the 1990s, the movement got good reviews from a few lawmakers and talk-radio hosts, some of its central ideas today are being plugged by people with far larger audiences like FOX News’ Glenn Beck and U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn). Beck, for instance, re-popularized a key Patriot conspiracy theory — the charge that FEMA is secretly running concentration camps — before finally “debunking” it.

Last year also experienced levels of cross-pollination between different sectors of the radical right not seen in years. Nativist activists increasingly adopted the ideas of the Patriots; racist rants against Obama and others coursed through the Patriot movement; and conspiracy theories involving the government appeared in all kinds of right-wing venues. A good example is the upcoming Second Amendment March in Washington, D.C. The website promoting the march is topped by a picture of a colonial militiaman, and key supporters include Larry Pratt, a long-time militia enthusiast with connections to white supremacists, and Richard Mack, a conspiracy-mongering former sheriff associated with the Patriot group Oath Keepers.

What may be most noteworthy about the march, however, is its date — April 19. That is the date of the first shots fired at Lexington in the Revolutionary War. And it is also the anniversary of the fiery end of the government siege in Waco and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

.................................................. .....................................

So is Obama the antui christ guys?
Is he a bonafide citizen?

bigmack
03-27-2010, 04:45 AM
Fact remains 24 percent of rethugs say "he may be the Antichrist."
No one including our resident preacher wants to deal with this. 24% is a substantial number.
Let's say it's 98% and get it over with. I appreciated your help with some Access files but might I ask, don't you find dialing around the internet looking for statistics trying to make those you disagree with into imbeciles makes you an incredible imbecile? And you ask for a reaction. How's that reaction? Does that support the jumbled-up thoughts in your brain?

Come on man, bring somethin' to the party besides fringe stats.

hcap
03-27-2010, 05:59 AM
It's not fringe at 24%. And if you bother to check out the Southern Poverty Law Center I quoted from, you will see most of the increases in hate groups have been on the right.

BTW, the Issue That Won't Die, the idiotic Birthers, apparently is alive and well among republicans.

Tom
03-27-2010, 11:43 AM
Then why doesn't he just show the BC and make be done with it?
I remind you, hiccups, you guys were all over having Bush PROVE his service by showing records. How do you talk yourself out of admitting you are a total hypocrite now?

What is the difference?:D

rastajenk
03-27-2010, 01:16 PM
I seem to remember polls showing that 35 or 40 percent of Dems think 9/11 was an inside job. If 24% is substantial, 35% is downright meaty. And I don't remember many Dems distancing themselves from that end of the fringe.

GaryG
03-27-2010, 01:27 PM
Has anyone seen his birth certificate?
Is there any proof that he is not the Antichrist?
Just wondering...

Tom
03-27-2010, 01:52 PM
Is he really a liar?
Can anyone prove he has lied?

Oh, wait....never mind. :lol:

boxcar
03-27-2010, 02:13 PM
It's not fringe at 24%. And if you bother to check out the Southern Poverty Law Center I quoted from, you will see most of the increases in hate groups have been on the right.

BTW, the Issue That Won't Die, the idiotic Birthers, apparently is alive and well among republicans.

Funny how 24% suddenly becomes a very significant number and puts it out of the fringe zone, too -- yet, when nearly 2/3rds of Americans didn't want the Dem(on)s' "health care reform" bill, you were solidly of the opinion your party should do whatever it takes to pass it anyway! Why was that, 'cap? Two-thirds were just a bunch of fringe kooks in that situation and their collective opinion wasn't worth spit? Explain that to us, will ya?

Boxcar

boxcar
03-27-2010, 02:14 PM
Has anyone seen his birth certificate?
Is there any proof that he is not the Antichrist?
Just wondering...

No and yes, respectively. Yes on the latter only because BO is too stupid to be the antichrist.

Boxcar

boxcar
03-27-2010, 02:16 PM
Then why doesn't he just show the BC and make be done with it?
I remind you, hiccups, you guys were all over having Bush PROVE his service by showing records. How do you talk yourself out of admitting you are a total hypocrite now?

What is the difference?:D

The diff in 'cappy's little mind is that Dem(on)s don't lie. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Boxcar

BlueShoe
03-27-2010, 03:24 PM
Two-thirds think he's a socialist, 57 percent a Muslim—and 24 percent say "he may be the Antichrist."

45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the Birthers

38 percent of Republicans (20 percent overall) say that Obama is "doing many of the things that Hitler did"
Hey, I only got 1 out of 5, and I vote Republican or 3rd party. Do not think that he is a Muslim or the Antichrist, and am a bit skeptical about the Birther theory. Do agree that he is imitating Der Fuher in many ways. On the first point, no, he is not a Socialist. He is a Communist. That is why he could not be a Muslim. Communists do not believe in God, they are atheists, so he could not belong to any faith.

Tom
03-27-2010, 04:58 PM
No and yes, respectively. Yes on the latter only because BO is too stupid to be the antichrist.

Boxcar

Never thought of that.

Hmmmm, now that I do, why can't Obama be the Antichrist?
Because SATAN has standards! :lol:

wes
03-27-2010, 08:59 PM
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/photogallery.aspx?cp-documentid=3983407



Who are these two?


wes