Facebook Poll Says it all

[Dave Schwartz]

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Had to laugh at the percentages and small commercial message.

(It IS the conservative way.)

[Robert Goren]

They will get one no matter what. That is one thing that both Rs and Ds members agree on at least in private. When was the last time they didn't get one?

[skate]

I agree with that and until the Media rides this point accross, along with Many Voters who think congress should receive a raise, I, the-skate, shall not par(f..n)take in the vote game.:cool:

[Space Monkey]

I agree, Congress deserves a pay cut, not a raise. But I'm wondering why you put Nancy Pelosi's picture up there. Shes not the problem. The problem is the radical right, tea baggers, and the obstructionist leaders of the Republican party, McConnell and Boehner. They are doing nothing for the American people. Throw in nutcases Michelle Backman, Virginia Fox, Jim Demint and the Blue dogs who aren't democrats at all, like Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln. Its amazing how so many middle and lower class Americans are supporting a party that is responsible for the economic mess we are in. Before you tell me I'm full of shit, look up (if you don't know already or choose to ignore) Lee Atwater and study what Reaganomics and our trade policies since 1980 have done to our middle class and the American worker. BTW, I fully admit that our trade policies were detrimental prior to Clinton, but he put them on steroids with NAFTA and the WTO. Obama is part of that too. He's a corporatist too, like every President we've had since 1980.

[skate]

well yah

just that nanny and bTHEo have taken things to a new ballgame. Sooooo, along with all the negatorys, we have more negatorieness.

and that's not saying 'shit head', nope.

[Space Monkey]

Intelligent response skate :ThmbDown:

[BenDiesel26]

I agree, Congress deserves a pay cut, not a raise. But I'm wondering why you put Nancy Pelosi's picture up there. Shes not the problem. The problem is the radical right, tea baggers, and the obstructionist leaders of the Republican party, McConnell and Boehner. They are doing nothing for the American people. Throw in nutcases Michelle Backman, Virginia Fox, Jim Demint and the Blue dogs who aren't democrats at all, like Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln. Its amazing how so many middle and lower class Americans are supporting a party that is responsible for the economic mess we are in. Before you tell me I'm full of shit, look up (if you don't know already or choose to ignore) Lee Atwater and study what Reaganomics and our trade policies since 1980 have done to our middle class and the American worker. BTW, I fully admit that our trade policies were detrimental prior to Clinton, but he put them on steroids with NAFTA and the WTO. Obama is part of that too. He's a corporatist too, like every President we've had since 1980.

Hey Space Monkey, Newsflash ---> There's very little difference between Republicans and Democrats other than who has power. The two-party system is the problem. By the way, I grew up through Reagan (mainly), Bush, and Clinton and my parents were lower middle class, still are although they are about to retire. I worry greatly about what will happen to them under Obama. We did great. Everything Obama tells the American public they couldn't do and that he will give to them, I have done and am still doing and did BY MYSELF. The biggest reason, I was taught not to live beyond my means and to avoid debt. If you can't afford healthcare, then sell your flat screen tv, cell phone, ugs, lexus (go buy a POS car), directv, gps, and every other thing you can't afford. Get rid of the credit cards you shouldn't have. Then make the sacrifice to take care of yourself and your family. I didn't even think about one until I was 23 just so I could build a credit history, and use it only for online purchases for fraud. If you still can't afford it, then come talk to me. I'd be glad to help then with all that I can afford, and it probably won't be monetary. But straight up, the welfare of my family will come before "the welfare of society." Sorry.

By the way I've said it before and I've said it again, Pelosi makes Palin look like Einstein. She is a total idiot, and California should be embarrassed that she represents them ("Americans will lose 500,000,000 jobs each month a stimulus bill is not passed"). And by the way, Demint had the best proposed bill I've see in years last November that you never heard of. TERM LIMITS. 3 terms for house, 2 for senate. So crazy right? And last, we have $107 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities due to social security and medicare, by far the biggest problem we have to deal with in with our current debt. It was those pesky "Republicans" though. What landmark social programs, let's add another to add more to these unfunded liabilities just so we can get some votes.

[Space Monkey]

I agree that the 2 party system is the problem. 3 parties wouldn't work. It would shift the balance of power one way or another. We need 4. The teabaggers on the right and the progressives on the left. But the bigger problem is how we fund the campaigns. We need public financing. Lets get the lobbyists out of it and repeal the recent fascist supreme court decision on citizens united.

I sincerely doubt that Pelosi said or meant that we would lose 5 hundred million jobs every month that passes without the stimulus bill. Everybody misspeaks. That had to be a senior moment. I agree with Demints term limits proposal. You took Pelosi's worst moment and Demints best as an example here. Palin is an airhead. On her website today she has the dems she wants to target pictured in the crosshairs of a rifle sight. That is so irresponsible its not even funny. The radical right is instigating violence, and over what?? Freakin healthcare.!!! Something that will save lives!! As I write this there are rocks being thrown through democrats offices and people are saying they are cleaning their guns. I'll predict that all this violence and racism shown on a daily basis by the radical right is going to blow up in their faces. The quiet, intelligent, educated America is going to come forward and good will prevail over the evil that is the radical right of this country.

BTW, I'm a registered Independent.

[Space Monkey]

Ben, all we need to do to fix ss is to eliminate the cap on paying in. Its another tax break for the rich. Whats so wrong in making people who make over $110,000 continue to pay in? I'm for a progressive tax structure that makes people who make more, pay more. Currently the rich pay less than lower and middle class. Thats wrong. William Buffet has spoken out on this. He's said that he pays less in taxes than his secretary. If we fix these inequities, maybe we'll have a better country.

[BenDiesel26]

I agree that the 2 party system is the problem. 3 parties wouldn't work. It would shift the balance of power one way or another. We need 4. The teabaggers on the right and the progressives on the left. But the bigger problem is how we fund the campaigns. We need public financing. Lets get the lobbyists out of it and repeal the recent fascist supreme court decision on citizens united.

I sincerely doubt that Pelosi said or meant that we would lose 5 hundred million jobs every month that passes without the stimulus bill. Everybody misspeaks. That had to be a senior moment. I agree with Demints term limits proposal. You took Pelosi's worst moment and Demints best as an example here. Palin is an airhead. On her website today she has the dems she wants to target pictured in the crosshairs of a rifle sight. That is so irresponsible its not even funny. The radical right is instigating violence, and over what?? Freakin healthcare.!!! Something that will save lives!! As I write this there are rocks being thrown through democrats offices and people are saying they are cleaning their guns. I'll predict that all this violence and racism shown on a daily basis by the radical right is going to blow up in their faces. The quiet, intelligent, educated America is going to come forward and good will prevail over the evil that is the radical right of this country.

BTW, I'm a registered Independent.

No she said it. It's on youtube. And she's had plenty of other moments. She's an absolute idiot who can barely speak, constantly shaking, especially when she lies. It's embarrassing and extremely scary to think what would happen if something were to somehow happen to Obama and Biden. The radical left and the radical right are the same Space Monkey. Go watch the radical left riot and loot at the G8 and in Copenhagen. Just a few weeks back, Bunning? was receiving death threats all the same when he was trying to force the democrats to follow their own PAYGO rules when passing their second stimulus bill in as many years. Take off the blindfold. By the way, Democrat=Progressive=Liberal. The two party system won't be corrected until congressional parties become separate from presidential parties, so that their funding comes from different sources. That and term limits. Until then, we will continue to get raped by government, now like never before.

[BenDiesel26]

Ben, all we need to do to fix ss is to eliminate the cap on paying in. Its another tax break for the rich. Whats so wrong in making people who make over $110,000 continue to pay in? I'm for a progressive tax structure that makes people who make more, pay more. Currently the rich pay less than lower and middle class. Thats wrong. William Buffet has spoken out on this. He's said that he pays less in taxes than his secretary. If we fix these inequities, maybe we'll have a better country.

Social security is bankrupt. The government spent all the money elsewhere, just like they will with the healthcare money. We already have a progressive tax structures that does that. What is it, something like the top 1% pay 30 percent, or something along those lines? Just so you know, William Buffet also said the health care bill that just passed should have been scrapped, and started over.

[Space Monkey]

A lot of people on the left didn't want the bill. But we have to start somewhere. SS and Medicare have been amended many times. Nixon proposed a healthcare bill and Ted Kennedy said that rejecting it was the biggest mistake he ever made in Congress.

Social security is bankrupt. The government spent all the money. We already have a progressive tax structures that does that. What is it, something like the top 1% pay 30

You're ignoring the fact that all we have to do to fix ss is to eliminate the cap. I've stated my position but all you do is quote questionable facts that I can't confirm without doing research that I don't have time for right now. So ben, are you a tea party guy? I'm assuming you're a supporter of that less than 1 full term governor Airhead Palin. Do you condone the way those tea baggers treated the man with Parkinson's in Ohio last week? do you support Congressman Joe Bown's outburst when he called our President a liar. Tell me Ben, where do you stand?

[BenDiesel26]

A lot of people on the left didn't want the bill. But we have to start somewhere. SS and Medicare have been amended many times. Nixon proposed a healthcare bill and Ted Kennedy said that rejecting it was the biggest mistake he ever made in Congress.



You're ignoring the fact that all we have to do to fix ss is to eliminate the cap. I've stated my position but all you do is quote questionable facts that I can't confirm without doing research that I don't have time for right now. So ben, are you a tea party guy? I'm assuming you're a supporter of that less than 1 full term governor Airhead Palin. Do you condone the way those tea baggers treated the man with Parkinson's in Ohio last week? do you support Congressman Joe Bown's outburst when he called our President a liar. Tell me Ben, where do you stand?

What the hell are you talking about? These are facts: social security + medicare = $107 trillion in unfunded liabilities. That's more than 7 times the national debt. If you eliminate the cap like you say, it will take well over 100 years (probably several hundred) to pay this off. No, I am not a teapartier. No, I am not a Palin fan. I am not a registered Republican or Democrat, I don't tow the party line like you do apparently. Do I think Brown was out of line? Yes. Is Obama a liar? Yes. That's not hard to see. You can find a contradiction to almost everything he says or has done just by viewing his speeches that are readily available online. Here are some facts for you space monkey I searched for you: in 2007, the top 1% of income earners payed 40.42% of income tax, more than the bottom 95% of Americans payed combined. By the way, I am not rich. I'm not even considered middle class. I am a poor grad student that was responsible for my full education, and I have zero debt. I have health care, dental care, and optical care (care=insurance) and sorry, but it's awesome. I can get an MRI by Friday if I needed to. Great isn't it? I don't want anybody else's money. I have already shown myself I can make more than enough money before I decided to go back to school. But I fend for myself. Sorry that those people exist. If you have a flat screen space monkey, you don't deserve free health care. If you were dumb enough to buy a new car or house that you knew you couldn't afford, then you don't deserve free health care until you get rid of it and fend for yourself. Sorry.

[Tom]

They keep Nazi Pelsoi around to make Biden look smarter.

[JustRalph]

Ben, all we need to do to fix ss is to eliminate the cap on paying in. Its another tax break for the rich. Whats so wrong in making people who make over $110,000 continue to pay in? I'm for a progressive tax structure that makes people who make more, pay more. Currently the rich pay less than lower and middle class. Thats wrong. William Buffet has spoken out on this. He's said that he pays less in taxes than his secretary. If we fix these inequities, maybe we'll have a better country.

Are you nuts? 40% of Americans don't pay any Federal Tax as it is.

We already have a tax structure that makes those who earn more, pay more. The rich already carry the country. 86% of all Taxes are paid for by 25% of the country. Look it up. You can find the numbers.

Warren Buffet (not William) made his comments because he has the unique ability to pay less based on the way he is paid by the companies he leads. He is one of a small group that can work their way around it. His Secretary might pay a higher percentage of taxes, but it is a fallacy to suggest that there is no progressive tax system already in place. There is and it is completely outrageous.

You just want "the rich" to pay more. You are a brainwashed Lefty who thinks like a Socialist. Spread the wealth. No man should be allowed to be more successful than another. Where in the sam hell do you people come from?

This is America. If you want to live in a Socialist country. Move your ass to Europe. You know? where they pay half a million bucks to live in 700sq foot apartments and take a crowded bus to stand in line all day for healthcare. All in the spirit of "sharing the wealth" btw, you can work 30 hours a week and take 6-10 weeks vacation every year too.......... get packing!

[fast4522]

Heck, Jumping Joe Biden should get a raise just for dropping the FBOMB on national television just before Mr. big ears signed that filthy paper with the twenty pens right?

[Dave Schwartz]

But I'm wondering why you put Nancy Pelosi's picture up there.

I didn't put anybody's picture anywhere. This was the actual page!

[Robert Goren]

Tell me when did the public ever think that congress deserved a raise? Not ever in my lifetime and I have seen both parties in power.

[johnhannibalsmith]

They are certainly earning their money yesterday/today/tonight/tomorrow. I started watching CCSPAN at 4AM and these Senate knuckleheads were already into the debates and here it is 18 hours later and they're still carrying on.

Half of them can barely speak anymore... Max Baucus has been holding court and can't get through a sentence.

I loved the amendment to force Congress to join the bulk of newly covered Americans onto the MedicAid rosters. Even the Repubs were secretly hoping that amendment was defeated.

[Space Monkey]

Yeah Ralph, see how easy it is to misspeak. Warren, William, 5mil jobs lost whatever. What cracks me up about the uninformed right, is they always cry socialism, communism, spread the wealth, etc. All FOX/Rush/Beck/right wing talking points. Just because I favor some programs to help all our citizens I'm a socialist commie. Grow t. f. up. I didn't say anything about spreading the wealth and your assertion that "you have to stand in line for hours to get health care in Europe" is devoid of knowledge and is just plain wrong. But, I know I've waited for hours here in the good old USA for treatment. You see Ralph, we've lost our soul as a country. People like you are all about ME, and could care less about anybody else. Selfish, greedy people who are against any program that helps others. But you'll support the fascist politics of the Republican party. Mussolini's version of fascism BTW. Its alla bout the corporations and screw the middle class. People like you don't even know they are being played.

[Space Monkey]

Ben we're getting raped by the corporations a hell of a lot more than the government. I agree, there are nutjobs at both ends of the political spectrum, but the protests at the G8 summit were mostly from the European left. The G8 fiasco has nothing to do with our current problem. Nancy is in her 70's. Give her a break on the shaking for God' sake. No, I hope she enver has to assume the Presidency, but if she had to, I'd feel a whole better with her there than Palin.

Congrats on putting yourself thru school and having zero debt. No school loans? But what about the kids born into poverty, do they deserve nothing? How about the insurance companies denying people healthcare due to preexisting conditions? People are dying every day because of our health insurance companies policy of profit before care. It wasn't this way when I was young.Somewhere along the line they decided that they were going to try to screw every American they could just to maximize their profit. Death panels?? The insurance companies have been just that for many years now, all so their CEO's can rake in billions in compensation at the cost of human lives. Come on Ben, you know this is going on. But you don't care because in your mind you have done it right and there's no excuse for anybody else. Its a good thing you haven't gotten really sick. You might have a different opinion if you were looking at this from the other side of the coin.

[Tom]

Fact check, please

People are dying every day because of our health insurance companies policy of profit before care.

[BenDiesel26]

Ben we're getting raped by the corporations a hell of a lot more than the government. I agree, there are nutjobs at both ends of the political spectrum, but the protests at the G8 summit were mostly from the European left. The G8 fiasco has nothing to do with our current problem. Nancy is in her 70's. Give her a break on the shaking for God' sake. No, I hope she enver has to assume the Presidency, but if she had to, I'd feel a whole better with her there than Palin.

Congrats on putting yourself thru school and having zero debt. No school loans? But what about the kids born into poverty, do they deserve nothing? How about the insurance companies denying people healthcare due to preexisting conditions? People are dying every day because of our health insurance companies policy of profit before care. It wasn't this way when I was young.Somewhere along the line they decided that they were going to try to screw every American they could just to maximize their profit. Death panels?? The insurance companies have been just that for many years now, all so their CEO's can rake in billions in compensation at the cost of human lives. Come on Ben, you know this is going on. But you don't care because in your mind you have done it right and there's no excuse for anybody else. Its a good thing you haven't gotten really sick. You might have a different opinion if you were looking at this from the other side of the coin.

Newsflash, government and corporations are in bed together. Stop drinking the kool-aid. Remember, "The SEIU's agenda is my agenda. I've spent my entire adult life working for the SEIU." Obama works for the unions who gave him $60 million in support for the last campaign and nobody else. He actually admitted it. They have had a part in writing the stimulus bill AND the healthcare bill AND the cap and trade that passed the house. THIS IS FACT. They are actually helping to WRITE LEGISLATION. Look up the Apollo Alliance.

You're right I have done it right. So sorry if I don't feel sorry for somebody who won't sell their new Lexus or 65" flatscreen TV to buy healthcare. They don't deserve it for free if that's the case. I don't feel sorry for people that choose to smoke either. And maybe you didn't read in another thread, but I have people in my family that have gotten sick and still are that sick. And guess what? They get care. What Obama is saying has been bullshit. Just like he told you during the campaign that people that are able to do what I have just don't exist. That they need the government to help them. Keep believing that bullshit because that's exactly how he's making it come true. You do realize that welfare and entitlements are helping to keep the kids you speak about born into poverty IN POVERTY, right? I care about my family and friends first and foremost. Do I have sympathy for the poor? Yeah I do, and its a shame what the government continues to do to them. Open up your eyes, they are sheeple to the government. Just votes. Let them suck on the teet just enough to keep on supporting me.

[BenDiesel26]

And by the way, she didn't say five million Americans each month, she said FIVE HUNDRED MILLION Americans will lose their job each month. Do yourself a favor and wikipedia the population of the United States.

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[Greyfox]

Thanks Ben, 500 million will lose their jobs....Dumber than soap.:lol:

[Dave Schwartz]

Oh, I liked this quote from someone on my Facebook page:

He said that America was suffering from Electile Dysfunction.

[Space Monkey]

Fact check, please

Tom, Wendell Potter is a former exec with CIGNA. He was so disgusted at their methods he quit and has become a whistleblower against the industry. I've seen him interviewed many times on different networks. He has testified before Congress. According to him, and he was one of them, as soon as someone submits a major cost claim the insurance companies go over every bit of his history to try to find a way to drop him. Theres a well documented case where a woman in her 30's developed breast cancer and when she submitted her claim for chemo her insurance company denied it because she didn't put down that she had taken prescription medicine for acne when she was a teenager on her original application. She couldn't afford the chemo and she died. There's thousands of stories like that one from people all over the country. A person loses his job, his healthcare, gets a new job and when he reapplies hes denied because of a pre existing condition. Might be him, might be his young child. I work with a guy who was 4 days late on his payment, got dropped, and when he reapplied got denied because he has high blood pressure. But you won't hear about them on FOX or right wing talk radio. Get your head out of the sand Tom. Unless you're like others here and don't give a shit about people like I mentioned.

[Space Monkey]

This country had electile dysfunction when it elected Bush. You all have short memories.

[Space Monkey]

So Ben according to you everybody that would benefit from healthcare (and its not free) is an irresponsible lout who drives a Lexus and has all the toys. How narrow minded and may I say, immature you are. People get laid off and people get dropped for no good reason. People across this country are sitting home dying a slow agonizing death knowing they could be cured but aren't, because their insurance company dropped them. And you look down your nose at them because in your mind, they deserve what they are getting and you are just so perfect. I feel sorry for people like you. You have no soul, no compassion, no character.

BTW, I'm still trying to figure out how you put yourself thru school with no debt. The cost of education is pretty high and I don't know anyone who could do it without the help from mommy, daddy or gramps. I know, you're a big winner at the track :lol:

[Space Monkey]

My youngest daughter who is 28 now, had major open heart surgery 5 years ago. Fortunately she had insurance. She still has that insurance today because she kept her job. Shes been trapped because if she makes a move and has to apply with another company they would deny her coverage due to her "pre existing" condition. With the signing of this bill that can't happen anymore. This Dad can sleep a little better at night now knowing his kids will be able to get the care they need for the rest of their lives. Thank you President Obama, and the Democrat and Independent members of Congress. This registered Independent, who has voted for many Republicans in the past, will never vote for another one again unless they change their leadership and move in a new direction.

[BenDiesel26]

Space Monkey, full athletic scholarship with partial academic scholarship--undergrad, graduate assistantship--master's, fellowship--phd. Not a cent from mommy or daddy and not a cent of debt. Sorry that I worked hard enough to earn an athletic scholarship and earn a 3.94 in engineering at the same time so that I could go to grad school for free.

I'm saying your exaggerating, and I'm right. For the few cases you brought up, I can't counteract them simply with members of just my own family. I don't have to go find exceptions to the rule. You bring up some interesting cancer cases though. Did you know if you are a man with malignant cancer in the European Union you have about a 20% better chance of dying than you do here, and that includes the uninsureds. Don't they have universal health care over here? Keep believing everything Obama says.

Look, we can help all the poor people we want that's great. I might be considered one of them in fact. But the fact remains. For example, if you're poor and you smoke, I don't feel bad for you. I told you before, poor or not, you still have a personal responsibility to do everything in your power to take care of yourself and your family. If you can't make it then, then I have no problem helping you. However, NOBODY is ENTITLED to somebody else's money.

By the way, notice that the staffers that wrote the bill exempted themselves from having to buy in to the wonderful exchange. Like has been said time and time again, the poor will receive the same treatment they did before and it will cost the same, only difference is now they can say they have an insurance card.

[BenDiesel26]

My youngest daughter who is 28 now, had major open heart surgery 5 years ago. Fortunately she had insurance. She still has that insurance today because she kept her job. Shes been trapped because if she makes a move and has to apply with another company they would deny her coverage due to her "pre existing" condition. With the signing of this bill that can't happen anymore. This Dad can sleep a little better at night now knowing his kids will be able to get the care they need for the rest of their lives. Thank you President Obama, and the Democrat and Independent members of Congress. This registered Independent, who has voted for many Republicans in the past, will never vote for another one again unless they change their leadership and move in a new direction.

That's great to hear about your daughter. My older brother had two heart surgeries while on my parent's insurance in college--a pre-existing condition. He was able to get insurance with no problem once my parents had to drop him due to age and still has it to this day. An Obama campaign worker tried to call him and talk to him about how he wasn't going to be covered because of condition during Obama's campaign. My brother told her the truth--that she was full of shit.

[ArlJim78]

My youngest daughter who is 28 now, had major open heart surgery 5 years ago. Fortunately she had insurance. She still has that insurance today because she kept her job. Shes been trapped because if she makes a move and has to apply with another company they would deny her coverage due to her "pre existing" condition. With the signing of this bill that can't happen anymore. This Dad can sleep a little better at night now knowing his kids will be able to get the care they need for the rest of their lives. Thank you President Obama, and the Democrat and Independent members of Congress. This registered Independent, who has voted for many Republicans in the past, will never vote for another one again unless they change their leadership and move in a new direction.
This issue wasn't even part of the debate because every Republican plan included a solution for those with pre-existing conditions. You'll have to come up with another reason to never again vote Republican.

[Space Monkey]

This issue wasn't even part of the debate because every Republican plan included a solution for those with pre-existing conditions

What republican plan? Every one of them I heard dealt with nothing much more than being able to buy across state lines. Under any republican plan I heard about, it didn't cut costs for the consumer at all and it didn't deal with pre existing conditions or fixing the doughnut hole for senior medications. All this is fixed with this bill. Boehner held a news conference and said there were 4 things he wanted in the bill. Every one of them was ALREADY in it. He made a total fool of himself that day. The truth is the Republicans have no plan. They wanted to start with a clean sheet of paper. That means nothing would be done by Nov. Then they would run on the do nothing dems and then with more votes they can do what they have always done for healthcare when they are in power. NOTHING.

Anybody that referes to the super majority of the dems has very little political intellect. There are many dems in congress from red states that are not true democrats. The democratic party is also very diverse. Not like the good old boy, lilly white old men of the GOP.

[lsbets]

The BS meter goes off the charts with Space Monkey.

[bigmack]

The BS meter goes off the charts with Space Monkey.
I can think of another meter. Don't force me to haul it out on this clod.

[maxwell]

I love it when Americans get into politics; rockets red blaring comes to mind. :D

The only political opinion in Canada that matters centers around the Toronto Maple Leafs drafting someone from Sweden or Russia.

Trivia Time :

Only one person in history has been granted instant American citizenship via none other than the President.

Hint : He was a Canadian ... eh!

[johnhannibalsmith]

Trivia Time :

Only one person in history has been granted instant American citizenship via none other than the President.

Hint : He was a Canadian ... eh!

Gretzky when he was shipped off to LA?

[maxwell]

John,

That's a good answer but you'll have to serve two minutes in the penalty box.

[johnhannibalsmith]

John,

That's a good answer but you'll have to serve two minutes in the penalty box.

If you had given me a five minute major then I would have immediately known that the definitive answer was Marty McSorely, but since it was only a minor... I'm thinking Ken "the Rat" Linseman... :p

[Tom]

This country had electile dysfunction when it elected Bush. You all have short memories.

1. reversed the recession Clinton left us in
2. reacted fast and kept us terror free for 8 years - until Obama got in office
3. 6 years of prosperity, until the dems took congress
4. Tried to prevent the housing crash, but was thwarted by the dems, who ensured it crashed
5. Behind the succession Iraq that Obama now tries to take credit for

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[JustRalph]

People like you are all about ME, and could care less about anybody else. Selfish, greedy people who are against any program that helps others. But you'll support the fascist politics of the Republican party. Mussolini's version of fascism BTW. Its alla bout the corporations and screw the middle class. People like you don't even know they are being played.

Don't pretend you know me. You don't. I am not against the poor, I am for the "deserving poor" I never met a man with two jobs that wasn't on his way up. I have helped many with a hand up over the last twenty years or so. So don't act like you know who I am.

I also think that you are still denying what the Obama supporters are no longer afraid to admit.........the man is a Socialist and stated so in the campaign. He proclaimed he wanted to "share the wealth" and now he is doing it. With a 4 vote majority. Pretty slim.

The Right/Repubs never said there was not a need for Healthcare reform. They object to the way it is being done. Plain and simple. Try this video for confirmation of the Socialist way forward.

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If you want to live in a Socialist Country, find a major airport and go. They are all over Europe......

[PaceAdvantage]

This country had electile dysfunction when it elected Bush. You all have short memories.I would gladly exchange what we have now to get GWB/Cheney back...